Pete

Johnson City, TN

#94061 Aug 20, 2013
Overtaxed wrote:
<quoted text> I noticed you didn't refute the figure, merely attacked the messenger. Didn't hear it on FOX ? It can't be true ! CNN ? That liberal bastion on news reporting is not to be believed !! Chuckles !!
Big business has been privatizing profits and socializing costs at the expense of the American middle class, and American small business owners for years. You need look no further than the bailouts of big banks as those who's homes were in foreclosure were cut loose to fend for themselves.
Big business socializes costs???? What difference are the costs of big business and small business? Let's take a look at what costs are already privatized. Those costs would be unemployment, workman's comp, medicare, social security, along with franchise tax, use tax, excise tax. Then take operating costs such as insurance, lease or mortgage payments, cost of goods sold, utilities, payroll, advertising, inventory, office supplies, equipment, etc. and you will see there is not much else to socialize.

Your ideology basically is one that businesses should be responsible for healthcare for all individuals. You think it is a business's responsibility to provide healthcare for all. This is on top of all the already privatized costs. You selectively pick Walmart to use as an example. What about all the businesses that voluntarily provide healthcare insurance to employees? You neglect to mention those businesses, which are a lot. Based on your posts, you are for privatizing all costs of all individuals because you think it is the fair thing to do. However, you fail to consider the American consumer buying preferences which dictate the lowest price possible. Since you select Walmart as an example, go look at a Walmart parking lot on any given Saturday. Why would they change their business model? They provide heavily discounted goods because there is a demand for heavily discounted goods. Once they are mandated to privatize all of their costs, there won't be a Walmart. If that is what you want, fine. However, try telling that to all the consumers out there simply looking for the cheapest price to pay.

If you think the ACA is going to force Walmart to start paying for all of its employees healthcare, think again. Walmart will simply reduce its overall workforce, convert what's left to part-time, and raise prices to cover the rest or simply offer goods of an even lesser quality to compensate for the increased costs. The fines associated with the ACA are much less than what a healthcare insurance premium will cost, so this is what they will do. Yes, they will have more costs, but they will reduce those costs via lay-offs and more part-time help while hiking their prices. So who ultimately pays? We do in the form of higher unemployment and higher prices. This is the only thing that can result from the ACA. Yes, some more people have access to insurance, but look at the overall cost to the entire populace. This system is flawed and in no way will work as it is written today. And on top of this, the ACA mandates the IRS to manage the program. This is simply lunacy.

Once again, there is not a business owner on the planet who thinks like you. Again, you are no employer or you employee one person - yourself. Hiring farm hands to help bale hay doesn't acquaint you with what all the costs of business are. Try looking at the world through someone else's glasses for once and look at the entire ramifications of something versus simply what you think is fair.

Regardless of what I just stated, I also want healthcare for all. And I do see your point believe it or not. However, the ACA is not the solution and neither is placing the responsibility for healthcare solely on businesses. Please remember that low unemployment, a high GDP and low inflation are what enables our economy to succeed.
Pete

Johnson City, TN

#94062 Aug 20, 2013
SexySassySenior wrote:
<quoted text>
I kinda sense a little protectiveness...and maybe, a little pity, also. If I'm right, I have to wonder why that is...what Vet's real situation, and story is?
I have to say that Vet can give as good as he gets...and he usually starts it. It's almost like he enjoys it, whether his target does or not.
But, I also know that as charming as he can be, he can also turn on you, at the snap of a finger...and that causes a lot of hard feelings. It's what Bullies do and nobody likes having it done to them.
And if you don't think "words" matter, and the way they're said, you're wrong...so that's why it matters!
Well, at least you waited a few hours before resuming posting after one of your world famous "I'm leaving" posts. Why do you even bother posting the "I'm leaving" posts?
I call BS

United States

#94063 Aug 20, 2013
Linda, you are the biggest bully on topic. In fa t, there is even a Facebook page dedicated to internet bullies and you are personally listed in the top 5.
here now

Johnson City, TN

#94064 Aug 20, 2013
SexySassySenior wrote:
<quoted text>
I kinda sense a little protectiveness...and maybe, a little pity, also. If I'm right, I have to wonder why that is...what Vet's real situation, and story is?
I have to say that Vet can give as good as he gets...and he usually starts it. It's almost like he enjoys it, whether his target does or not.
But, I also know that as charming as he can be, he can also turn on you, at the snap of a finger...and that causes a lot of hard feelings. It's what Bullies do and nobody likes having it done to them.
And if you don't think "words" matter, and the way they're said, you're wrong...so that's why it matters!
Pretty much all of the above could all be said about you. I could care less what you, Vet, or any other person who posts says about me. If you were truly believed that words matter you would take more care with the words you use as you are a vindictive poster.
here now

Johnson City, TN

#94065 Aug 20, 2013
Pete wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, at least you waited a few hours before resuming posting after one of your world famous "I'm leaving" posts. Why do you even bother posting the "I'm leaving" posts?
Exactly.

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#94066 Aug 20, 2013
here now wrote:
<quoted text>
He insinuates. I read it that he weighed xxx pounds and stood XXX high. You blew it out of proportion from what I read. In the end, what does it really matter? You go on and on about how hard you work and yet post all during the workday. Lots of breaks. Hey, hope you are on your own phone or else your company can track how much time you spend on this garbage.
State and federal law requires employers to grant employees a few minutes every day for THEIR time. It's quite telling that the conservatives would choose a few posts during a scant few minutes during the day to focus on and needle to death. Never they mind the hours upon hours that all the conservatives spend whining about the minutiae of their wasted lives on this very forum daily (and nightly).

Sometimes making money for one's family requires a great deal of time, not that you'd know it from the perpetual posting of conservatives on this forum, but even with a full throttle work ethic, a man must stop every 2 or 3 hours for 10 or 15 minutes for sanity's sake. This seems alien to those who are magically able to spend their entire days typing away on their keyboards as they sit at home living off "the working folk."

As much as the conservatives rail on and on about being "hardworking," they certainly seem to have puh-lenty of time to wile away the day on Topix. Hilarious that they would attack a liberal poster for such limited daytime visits to the musty old room where their presence is so common that their shadows linger for hours after their bodies have exited. They honestly lack any sense of hypocrisy.
Bunch of Crap

Paris, TN

#94067 Aug 20, 2013
Pete wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, at least you waited a few hours before resuming posting after one of your world famous "I'm leaving" posts. Why do you even bother posting the "I'm leaving" posts?
You give Linda far too much credit. She is hardly world famous, only well known as a liar and a psychotic bully in her little community of Camden Tennessee. She lives on East View Avenue in Camden and her neighbors all say the same thing about her, "Sociopath".
Pete

Johnson City, TN

#94068 Aug 20, 2013
The Original Amused wrote:
Sad, Pete's turning into a sniping grouch like vet. I used to have a decent opinion of him. I suppose that's due to "the company that you keep."
I'm betting April Pete would be fairly embarrassed by August Pete.
I will have to admit OA, you have a way with words. This one had me smiling at least. The April Pete is mostly the same person as the August Pete. The only difference is that I have a lot less patience with posters like SSS.

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#94069 Aug 20, 2013
Pete wrote:
<quoted text>
Well, at least you waited a few hours before resuming posting after one of your world famous "I'm leaving" posts. Why do you even bother posting the "I'm leaving" posts?
Look, you Phony Nut Case Jerk, I don't have to have your permission to post and I don't recall asking you to approve, so go back to your whining and crying and DO NOT POST TO ME AGAIN!
Pete

Johnson City, TN

#94070 Aug 20, 2013
SexySassySenior wrote:
<quoted text>
Look, you Phony Nut Case Jerk, I don't have to have your permission to post and I don't recall asking you to approve, so go back to your whining and crying and DO NOT POST TO ME AGAIN!
I ask again, why bother posting the "I'm leaving" posts if that is not your intent? Whatever purpose you had in mind, I don't think it worked.

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#94071 Aug 20, 2013
The Original Amused wrote:
<quoted text>
State and federal law requires employers to grant employees a few minutes every day for THEIR time. It's quite telling that the conservatives would choose a few posts during a scant few minutes during the day to focus on and needle to death. Never they mind the hours upon hours that all the conservatives spend whining about the minutiae of their wasted lives on this very forum daily (and nightly).
Sometimes making money for one's family requires a great deal of time, not that you'd know it from the perpetual posting of conservatives on this forum, but even with a full throttle work ethic, a man must stop every 2 or 3 hours for 10 or 15 minutes for sanity's sake. This seems alien to those who are magically able to spend their entire days typing away on their keyboards as they sit at home living off "the working folk."
As much as the conservatives rail on and on about being "hardworking," they certainly seem to have puh-lenty of time to wile away the day on Topix. Hilarious that they would attack a liberal poster for such limited daytime visits to the musty old room where their presence is so common that their shadows linger for hours after their bodies have exited. They honestly lack any sense of hypocrisy.
I think they're all on Public Assistance, or somebody is financially supporting them, and they don't have a clue what it's like to work, because they've never done it!
The only "business" they've ever been involved with, is everybody else's business and they have plenty of time to do that, because they've never worked for a REAL paycheck in their lives.
what's really galling, is that our Tax Money probably bought the cellphones and computers that they using to "bite the hand that feeds them"...and the medication that they're obviously using!
Pete

Johnson City, TN

#94072 Aug 20, 2013
SexySassySenior wrote:
<quoted text>
I think they're all on Public Assistance, or somebody is financially supporting them, and they don't have a clue what it's like to work, because they've never done it!
The only "business" they've ever been involved with, is everybody else's business and they have plenty of time to do that, because they've never worked for a REAL paycheck in their lives.
what's really galling, is that our Tax Money probably bought the cellphones and computers that they using to "bite the hand that feeds them"...and the medication that they're obviously using!
So what line of work are you in Sassy?
I call BS

United States

#94073 Aug 20, 2013
she's retarded
. errrrr mean retired.. from

?????????

No one knows because she has been fired from every job she's had since she blew into Camden Tennessee 30 years ago when her father bought her a house to keep her from living under his roof. Later he transfered the house into her name because he felt her lids needed a place to call he. Reports say that she was one of those "love in" hippies in the 1960's and "got around the block". She moved to Tennessee a single mother of 2 after her husband sought reprieve from the emotional abuse she delivered daily.
Beeblebrox

Leary, GA

#94074 Aug 20, 2013
From Thornton Wilder's play OUR TOWN
Belligerent Man:
Is there no one in this town aware of social injustice and industrial inequality?
Mr. Webb:
Oh, yes, everybody is-something terrible. Seems like they spend all their time talking about who's rich and who's poor.
Belligerent Man:
Then why don't they do something about it?
Mr. Webb:
Well, I don't Know... I guess we're hunting like everybody else for a way the diligent and sensible can rise to the top and the lazy and quarrelsome can sink to the bottom. But it ain't easy to find. Meanwhile, we do all we can to help those that can't help themselves and those that can we leave alone,- Are there any other questions?
Honestly

Sparta, TN

#94075 Aug 20, 2013
Pete wrote:
<quoted text>
I also want healthcare for all. And I do see your point believe it or not. However, the ACA is not the solution and neither is placing the responsibility for healthcare solely on businesses. Please remember that low unemployment, a high GDP and low inflation are what enables our economy to succeed.
Pete: very good ----

There was a way before ACA was forced upon us. It was trhown out to the wolves. That is insurance based on full capitalism.

Under present laws(most states), each carrier(insurance company)gives rates to each state it operates in. What was wrong with have the insurance companies compete for your business like car insurance. Geico, Progressive, Alstate, StateFarm are a few car insurances that cross state lines. Their rates are based upon each states cost but the bottom line is that their charge to the person is the lowest possible. Why ??? Capitalism

Under present laws, portability of insurance from one work place to another in not allowed. WHY NOT? Cobra steps in when you leave a job and lets you keep your insurance even if you don't have a job. Think about it..... If you have a condition your present insurance is paying for and you leave your job and lose your insurance, there is a high percentage that the next jobs insurance carrier will either make you wait for a year before signing you up or not give you insurance at all. NOW---If you could carry you insurance with you (like car, life insurance or accident insurance, etc.)to another job, preexisting conditions would cease to exist.

30 million people not covered. OK, Probably 10 million of these 30 million are legal citizens but neither-the-less. There are a lot of these 30 million that are young people who decide for one reason or the other, they do not need medical insurance. Fixing this problem is a lot different than making everyone in the USA (350,000,000) get insurance as Obamacare has.

All the above were put forth by republican party and thrown out by the liberals. They want socialism. Is this what you want. OA ----evidently it is.

Sorry Pete,,, just had to add that in.
SSS parody

Pikeville, TN

#94076 Aug 20, 2013
Pete wrote:
<quoted text>
So what line of work are you in Sassy?
Not that it's any of your business, I'm quite content to remain the sitting "Director" at the "Department of Total Misinformation"! I dropped the anchor here, buddy boy...and have surpassed all expectations. I've issued more erroneous proclamations than my three predecessors combined! Make no mistake about it, I'm vulgar-wrong about 99% of everything I think or say at least 99% of the time! Come to think of it, this is the only job I've ever held for more than a few hours! I'm told I'm actually suited to be a weather forecaster or an advisor to President Oblabba! Yeah, I'm really proud of this opportunity. If this Community Organizer just had the "right" people he could destroy not only "this" country and the entire middle east, but the rest of the world as we know it...in no time at all!
Fred

Brighton, MA

#94077 Aug 20, 2013
i farted twice!!
Question

Goodlettsville, TN

#94078 Aug 21, 2013
Haslam has yet another bid rigging charge against his administration. Where there is this much smoke there has to be a fire. Charges keep mounting up. There is a lot of greed in this administration and I hope he is soon gone.

“IMNTBHO”

Since: Dec 10

Smyrna, TN

#94079 Aug 21, 2013
The Original Amused wrote:
<quoted text>
When Wal-Mart runs out all the Mom-and-Pop shops, where's that "American" choice you so revere?
Walmart must be doing something right. If they were so bad, no one would work there or shop there.

“IMNTBHO”

Since: Dec 10

Smyrna, TN

#94080 Aug 21, 2013
SexySassySenior wrote:
<quoted text>

But, I also know that as charming as he can be, he can also turn on you, at the snap of a finger...and that causes a lot of hard feelings. It's what Bullies do and nobody likes having it done to them.
And if you don't think "words" matter, and the way they're said, you're wrong...so that's why it matters!
Look who's talking about turning on someone. The vast majority of posters that have left topix, did it because you did that very thing. You are the very bully you talk about.

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