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#80657 May 19, 2013
From a Friday post on a Crossville thread entitled "interracial dating..."
Republicans4Ever wrote:
If God wanted the different colors to mix He wouldn't have put them on different continents!
Yes, it's not indicative of EVERY Republican's personal opinions concerning race, but I tend to see a LOT of this in Crossville. Please spare me the "liberal subterfuge" weak defense; this poster screams on other threads about the horrors of liberalism as well. It might be embarrassing that racists tend to migrate toward the GOP, but it doesn't refute this fact.

A lengthy "I know you are, but what am I?" diatribe does not negate this fact either, so please don't embarrass yourselves with yet another post whining about the Black Panthers, NAACP, Jesse Jackson, etc.
Pete

Johnson City, TN

#80658 May 19, 2013
The Original Amused wrote:
Until now, that is. A new survey by the University of Washington Institute for the Study of Ethnicity, Race & Sexuality offers fresh insight into the racial attitudes of Tea Party sympathizers. "The data suggests that people who are Tea Party supporters have a higher probability"—25 percent, to be exact—"of being racially resentful than those who are not Tea Party supporters," says Christopher Parker, who directed the study. "The Tea Party is not just about politics and size of government. The data suggests it may also be about race."
Surveyers asked respondents in California and a half dozen battleground states (like Michigan and Ohio) a series of questions that political scientists typically use to measure racial hostility. On each one, Tea Party backers expressed more resentment than the rest of the population, even when controlling for partisanship and ideology.
Bositis finds the movement's arguments about reckless federal spending unpersuasive. Why, he asks, weren't they up in arms when President George W. Bush launched two costly wars and created a new unfunded mandate with his Medicare prescription-drug plan? Why didn't they take to the streets when he converted a surplus into a massive deficit? "I don't like to be in a position where I'm characterizing people as being racially biased," says Bositis. "But when the shoe fits, what do you do?" Given modern societal norms, "they know they can't use any overtly racist language," he contends. "So they use coded language"—questioning the patriotism of the president or complaining about "socialist" schemes to redistribute wealth.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2010/04...
May I now enjoy the predictable attacks against the media outlet who reported this study? Don't let me down.
This argument is getting tired OA. Please try to remember that Obama started campaigning at least 2 years before he ever took office. It was very clear what he was going to do, i.e. tax and spend. And that is indeed what he is doing. He was also very clear on growing government BEFORE he took office. He was very clear at being anti-business. The Tea Party was trying to stop him from doing all of these things. Again, they were protesting an ideology. You don't have to wait for the actual results to know where a person is heading. Some people are perceptive, and in this case, they were exactly right. Should we simply wait for a nuclear weapon to be dropped on our head if we know of an enemy actually building one? Should individuals plotting to kill their spouse be arrested before the actual event takes place, or should the authorities simply wait until they do it? Your argument is very elementary on this.

Regarding race and the Tea Party. I guess everyone should go tell Dr. Ben Carson this news before he is made to feel unwelcome.

http://www.teaparty.org/ben-carson-obama-tryi...

Notice his color OA. Here's a hint, it isn't white. How does a man of color become to be known as the "darling" of the Tea Party if the Tea Party is racist?

While you're at it, you might as well inform the Washington Redskins quarterback, i.e. RGIII of your racist news. He might need to be warned of his impending abuse by his new friends.
Pete

Johnson City, TN

#80659 May 19, 2013
The Original Amused wrote:
A lengthy "I know you are, but what am I?" diatribe does not negate this fact either, so please don't embarrass yourselves with yet another post whining about the Black Panthers, NAACP, Jesse Jackson, etc.
But it's ok if you embarrass yourself, consistently whining about the Tea Party using what is at best a convoluted opinion you state as fact?

Since: Mar 10

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#80660 May 19, 2013
Pete wrote:
<quoted text>
This argument is getting tired OA. Please try to remember that Obama started campaigning at least 2 years before he ever took office. It was very clear what he was going to do, i.e. tax and spend. And that is indeed what he is doing. He was also very clear on growing government BEFORE he took office. He was very clear at being anti-business. The Tea Party was trying to stop him from doing all of these things. Again, they were protesting an ideology. You don't have to wait for the actual results to know where a person is heading. Some people are perceptive, and in this case, they were exactly right. Should we simply wait for a nuclear weapon to be dropped on our head if we know of an enemy actually building one? Should individuals plotting to kill their spouse be arrested before the actual event takes place, or should the authorities simply wait until they do it? Your argument is very elementary on this.
Regarding race and the Tea Party. I guess everyone should go tell Dr. Ben Carson this news before he is made to feel unwelcome.
http://www.teaparty.org/ben-carson-obama-tryi...
Notice his color OA. Here's a hint, it isn't white. How does a man of color become to be known as the "darling" of the Tea Party if the Tea Party is racist?
While you're at it, you might as well inform the Washington Redskins quarterback, i.e. RGIII of your racist news. He might need to be warned of his impending abuse by his new friends.
Where was the (non-racist) Tea Party when Bush was growing the size of government, trampling on the Constitution and turning a budget surplus into an incredible deficit? Seems convenient that they didn't oppose these things when a white Republican was guilty of engaging in the very sins that they purport to oppose.

By the way, what does RGIII have to do with the Tea Party being racist?
Pete

Johnson City, TN

#80661 May 19, 2013
Dunlapian wrote:
<quoted text>I rarely open up the Bible, Quran ect. except to prove a point, which in itself I don't think is right, but if you insist;
K.J.V. Numbers, 18:26
Dunlapian, at one time I saw where you posted that your hobbies are saltwater fishing and geological digs. I share your passion for saltwater fishing, but the geological digs perked my interest. Are your digs focused on fossils or artifacts? I knew of some people who would look for civil war artifacts and that seemed very interesting. They actually found a sword. But I was wondering exactly what geological digs were? I would be very much interested in learning more about this.

Regarding saltwater fishing, my dream is to live on Perdido Bay between Florida and Alabama and have a bay boat along with a center console for off-shore. I got hooked on saltwater fishing on a trip to Costa Rica sailfishing. After that, bass fishing didn't quite stack up.

Since: Mar 10

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#80662 May 19, 2013
Pete wrote:
<quoted text>
But it's ok if you embarrass yourself, consistently whining about the Tea Party using what is at best a convoluted opinion you state as fact?
You're honestly stating that the existence of racism in the Tea Party movement is "an opinion?" Just, wow.
Scarlett Pimple

Jamestown, TN

#80663 May 19, 2013
According to the French business newspaper Les Echos, more than 8,000 French households' tax bills topped 100 percent of their income last year.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/18/us-...

“The newspaper said that the exceptionally high level of taxation was due to a one-off levy last year on 2011 incomes for households with assets of more than 1.3 million euros ($1.67 million).

President Francois Hollande's Socialist government imposed the tax surcharge last year, shortly after taking office, to offset the impact of a rebate scheme created by its conservative predecessor to cap an individual's overall taxation at 50 percent of income.”

Notice the use of the word “scheme” to describe the evil conservative’s move to limit taxation to a measly 50%.

In addition to the 8000 who saw all of their income confiscated, nearly 12,000 households paid taxes last year worth more than 75 percent of their 2011 revenues due to the exceptional levy.

So democrats, listen up. I’ve come up with a fantastic idea that will enable you re-distribute the wealth in this country.

Currently, we only tax income, not wealth. And passing a wealth tax might be difficult, given the number of wealthy democrats there are in both houses of congress.

The problem is that even if we follow socialist France’s lead and tax 100% of the 1%’s income, it’ll only pay a month or two of the deficit. And at our current spending levels, even with sequestration, the deficit will never be extinguished. So we need some fresh ideas.

Why not enact a 500% tax rate on the 1%. They make $10 million dollars? Make’em fork over $50 million in taxes. Since we’re taxing income, and not wealth, it’ll fly. And since it’ll only apply to the 1%(at least for a little while – we’ll have to expand the scope after we’ve soaked’em dry) the idea can be sold to the typical democrat or un-informed voter.

So there you have it democrats of AmeriKa. An easy method of accomplishing your goals. And legal too!
Pete

Johnson City, TN

#80664 May 19, 2013
The Original Amused wrote:
<quoted text>
You're honestly stating that the existence of racism in the Tea Party movement is "an opinion?" Just, wow.
That's exactly what I'm stating.

Since: Mar 10

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#80665 May 19, 2013
Some Tea Partiers blame the media for casting them as racists. "It really makes me mad," says Tom Fitzhugh, a Tea party activist in Tampa. "They have tried to portray us as a bunch of radical extremists." He considers Obama an abomination—possibly "the most radical-voting senator that ever was" and someone likely to "take us down the path of destruction." He believes the administration is intent on taking away his guns, trampling on states' rights, and opening the borders with Canada and Mexico. He has serious doubts that Obama was born in the U.S. and suspects that the president is a closet Muslim.(There's no evidence to support any of these accusations.) But his anger has nothing to do with race, he says. The real issue is that Obama is "taking down the Constitution and the way it's governed us for [hundreds of] years." All he wants, in other words, is to take his country back.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2010/04...
Pete

Johnson City, TN

#80666 May 19, 2013
The Original Amused wrote:
<quoted text>
Where was the (non-racist) Tea Party when Bush was growing the size of government, trampling on the Constitution and turning a budget surplus into an incredible deficit? Seems convenient that they didn't oppose these things when a white Republican was guilty of engaging in the very sins that they purport to oppose.
By the way, what does RGIII have to do with the Tea Party being racist?
Good grief, now we're back on Bush. Bush didn't grow the size of the government and didn't trample on the constitution. The debt and deficit did increase under his watch, however, his policy was to grow wealth via economic growth versus taxing the entities responsible for such growth. In other words, he wasn't a "tax and spend" guy. There were no Solyndra's under Bush's watch. Yes, he spent on two wars. You might not agree with the wars. I don't agree with one of them. But his spending wasn't about supporting an ideology. Obama's is all about keeping his ideology intact long after he is gone, even if it is detrimental to the country. And before you ask "how does one get rid of the debt and deficit without new taxes?" The answer is via economic growth, i.e. JFK. Right now, no amount of taxes will get rid of our debt.

Regarding RGIII, he was commended by the Tea Party for his actions taken on political correctness. Usually, an organization doesn't commend someone they are racist against, unless of course they think like you.

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#80667 May 19, 2013
Scarlett Pimple wrote:
According to the French business newspaper Les Echos, more than 8,000 French households' tax bills topped 100 percent of their income last year.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/18/us-...
“The newspaper said that the exceptionally high level of taxation was due to a one-off levy last year on 2011 incomes for households with assets of more than 1.3 million euros ($1.67 million).
President Francois Hollande's Socialist government imposed the tax surcharge last year, shortly after taking office, to offset the impact of a rebate scheme created by its conservative predecessor to cap an individual's overall taxation at 50 percent of income.”
Notice the use of the word “scheme” to describe the evil conservative’s move to limit taxation to a measly 50%.
In addition to the 8000 who saw all of their income confiscated, nearly 12,000 households paid taxes last year worth more than 75 percent of their 2011 revenues due to the exceptional levy.
So democrats, listen up. I’ve come up with a fantastic idea that will enable you re-distribute the wealth in this country.
Currently, we only tax income, not wealth. And passing a wealth tax might be difficult, given the number of wealthy democrats there are in both houses of congress.
The problem is that even if we follow socialist France’s lead and tax 100% of the 1%’s income, it’ll only pay a month or two of the deficit. And at our current spending levels, even with sequestration, the deficit will never be extinguished. So we need some fresh ideas.
Why not enact a 500% tax rate on the 1%. They make $10 million dollars? Make’em fork over $50 million in taxes. Since we’re taxing income, and not wealth, it’ll fly. And since it’ll only apply to the 1%(at least for a little while – we’ll have to expand the scope after we’ve soaked’em dry) the idea can be sold to the typical democrat or un-informed voter.
So there you have it democrats of AmeriKa. An easy method of accomplishing your goals. And legal too!
From a commenter in the Comments section of your linked article...

The article above does not make an accurate description of why taxes are topping 100% for some people.

Income taxes in France include property taxes for patrimony greater than $1.8M. If you happen to have low income and inherited from a large estate then, you can perfectly pay multiple times your revenue in taxes… the same thing would happen in the US: if you inherit a $1.8M property, you’ll have to pay something like $18k in property taxes. If you have little or no revenue – say you inherited as well a wad of cash and you are not good at managing it – then your effective tax rate will be greater than 100%. This is just what happens for those people in France: lots of property, little revenue, so yes when you calculate a ratio, this is high.

There is no difference between France than the US then on this one, except that the ‘income tax’ perimeter is defined differently, hence creating the confusion.
Pete

Johnson City, TN

#80668 May 19, 2013
The Original Amused wrote:
Some Tea Partiers blame the media for casting them as racists. "It really makes me mad," says Tom Fitzhugh, a Tea party activist in Tampa. "They have tried to portray us as a bunch of radical extremists." He considers Obama an abomination—possibly "the most radical-voting senator that ever was" and someone likely to "take us down the path of destruction." He believes the administration is intent on taking away his guns, trampling on states' rights, and opening the borders with Canada and Mexico. He has serious doubts that Obama was born in the U.S. and suspects that the president is a closet Muslim.(There's no evidence to support any of these accusations.) But his anger has nothing to do with race, he says. The real issue is that Obama is "taking down the Constitution and the way it's governed us for [hundreds of] years." All he wants, in other words, is to take his country back.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2010/04...
If you want to argue by throwing internet web links back and forth, then here is one right back at you. For every one you post, I can find hundreds stating the exact opposite. I don't form opinions based on something an internet site says. I form them based on what I experience and what I see. You should try it sometime.

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/lachlan-markay/2...

Since: Mar 10

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#80669 May 19, 2013
Pete wrote:
<quoted text>
Good grief, now we're back on Bush. Bush didn't grow the size of the government...
Department of Homeland Security?
Pete wrote:
...and didn't trample on the constitution.
Warrantless wiretapping? The Patriot Act? Holding people prisoner without trial? Torture?
Pete wrote:
The debt and deficit did increase under his watch, however, his policy was to grow wealth via economic growth versus taxing the entities responsible for such growth. In other words, he wasn't a "tax and spend" guy.
"Tax and spend" is inarguably more fiscally responsible than "borrow and spend," especially when you're keeping 2 wars "off the books."
Pete wrote:
There were no Solyndra's under Bush's watch. Yes, he spent on two wars. You might not agree with the wars. I don't agree with one of them. But his spending wasn't about supporting an ideology.
Attacking Iraq using WMDs, Saddam's ties to al-Qaeda, etc. was not necessarily an "ideology," I suppose, but does that somehow justify the loss of American lives, not to mention the lives of hundreds of thousands innocent Iraqi people?
Pete wrote:
Obama's is all about keeping his ideology intact long after he is gone, even if it is detrimental to the country.
As opposed to his entire party endeavoring to contract immediate amnesia upon the end of his 2nd term?
Pete wrote:
And before you ask "how does one get rid of the debt and deficit without new taxes?" The answer is via economic growth, i.e. JFK. Right now, no amount of taxes will get rid of our debt.
Taxing the hard-working American citizens' EARNED income while protecting the top 1% of the wealthiest Americans' INVESTMENT income does not seem like the magic bullet to grow our economy. If the Middle Class has no income, they cannot purchase the goods and services that "the job providers" are selling.
Pete wrote:
Regarding RGIII, he was commended by the Tea Party for his actions taken on political correctness. Usually, an organization doesn't commend someone they are racist against, unless of course they think like you.
Must've missed that.
Dunlapian

Dunlap, TN

#80670 May 19, 2013
Pete wrote:
<quoted text>
Dunlapian, at one time I saw where you posted that your hobbies are saltwater fishing and geological digs. I share your passion for saltwater fishing, but the geological digs perked my interest. Are your digs focused on fossils or artifacts? I knew of some people who would look for civil war artifacts and that seemed very interesting. They actually found a sword. But I was wondering exactly what geological digs were? I would be very much interested in learning more about this.
Regarding saltwater fishing, my dream is to live on Perdido Bay between Florida and Alabama and have a bay boat along with a center console for off-shore. I got hooked on saltwater fishing on a trip to Costa Rica sailfishing. After that, bass fishing didn't quite stack up.
Good Morning Pete,
My geological digs are purely amature and fun. So far in Tennessee, I've dug up ferns, tree barks ect. inside what I believe to be shale/slate. Now many years ago I have had the opportunity to go to active phosphate mines on the very tip of Eastern North Carolina, and Central Florida(Bone Valley) and within the phosphate are old ocean bottoms(Florida has been underwater many times before, not just financially) it is this geology that you can come across very old and very large shark teeth. You can also canoe down "Peace River" and sift the bottom and find very old shark teeth there. I could go on forever about this and it is fun.
As far as salt water fishing, forget the bay boat and buy a heavy offshore boat with twin outboards. I guarantee you will fall in love with the ocean.

Since: Feb 13

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#80671 May 19, 2013
Pete Posted:

"Its ok to force Steven Miller to resign as Chairman of the IRS when he wasn't even chairman when the irregularities occurred,"
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Isn't this exactly what you TEApublicans have been doing to Obama, concerning the Nation's affairs and the Economy, for Four and A Half years?
What Obama's actually been doing is trying to fix Bush/Cheney's messes that it took them 8 years to accumulate and almost destroyed the Country. that, my Friend, is a monumental task and one that will take many more years to completely correct.

Also Pete, Bush is an Idiot! Youtube is filled with his own words to prove it. If you didn't see it live, when he said them, I'll be more than happy to post the Youtube Links, so that you can see them now. THEY ARE ACCURATE! I watched him , LIVE, when he said them...most of the time , with my mouth dropped open, with disbelief, at what I was hearing.

Since: Feb 13

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#80672 May 19, 2013
Pete wrote:
<quoted text>
Dunlapian, at one time I saw where you posted that your hobbies are saltwater fishing and geological digs. I share your passion for saltwater fishing, but the geological digs perked my interest. Are your digs focused on fossils or artifacts? I knew of some people who would look for civil war artifacts and that seemed very interesting. They actually found a sword. But I was wondering exactly what geological digs were? I would be very much interested in learning more about this.
Regarding saltwater fishing, my dream is to live on Perdido Bay between Florida and Alabama and have a bay boat along with a center console for off-shore. I got hooked on saltwater fishing on a trip to Costa Rica sailfishing. After that, bass fishing didn't quite stack up.
LMAO! You, Vet, and Costa Rico! You make your money HERE and spend it THERE! Take it from this Country and give it to another one. How patriotic of you...NO reflection intended on your Military Service...exempt that from my stated opinion, PLEASE!
crazy

Jamestown, TN

#80673 May 19, 2013
Liberal support of gays is amazing....
Maybe they will support people marrying their Pets!!!

How low can a president get????

Since: Mar 10

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#80675 May 19, 2013
crazy wrote:
Liberal support of gays is amazing....
Maybe they will support people marrying their Pets!!!
How low can a president get????
Yes, "all men are created equal" is such an outlandish idea.

Since: Feb 13

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#80676 May 19, 2013
Pete wrote:
<quoted text>
But it's ok if you embarrass yourself, consistently whining about the Tea Party using what is at best a convoluted opinion you state as fact?
I think the Tea Party is the most Dangerous Political Party to come about in this Country, by far, in my Lifetime!

Since: Feb 13

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#80677 May 19, 2013
Pete wrote:
<quoted text>
That's exactly what I'm stating.
You need to start reading all the Posts that MANY of your Fellow TEA Baggers have posted! If you're a reasonable Person, I think you would retract that statement.

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