Scarlett Pimple

Jamestown, TN

#78513 May 6, 2013
SSS wrote:
Your TEApublican Party is facing the consequences right now of the Sequester that was Paul Ryan and Eric Cantor's bright idea
Faulty information yields faulty conclusions.

FYI - the sequester was Obama's idea, and the WH has finally admitted that fact.

White House Admits (Third Time) President Obama Fibbed On Sequester

"Is the press corps getting some guts? Are they finally prepared to challenge the President’s untruthful assertions on facts that are crucial to understanding policy?

None other than NBC’s David Gregory today pressed Obama’s chief economic advisor, Gene Sperling, whether his boss told the truth in the third presidential debate that “the sequester is not something that I’ve proposed. It is something that Congress has proposed.”

"Sperling finally wilted under the pressure of tough questioning to admit that “yes, in fact, the sequestration was President Obama’s plan.”

Sorry to break your bubble, but I guess we can reasonably say that you do not know what you're talking about.
Scarlett Pimple

Jamestown, TN

#78514 May 6, 2013
lol wrote:
<quoted text>If there was no welfare and food stamps the lazy bums would just steal your stuff to live off of.
Most of them do that now anyway - they're just better fed and fatter.
Scarlett Pimple

Jamestown, TN

#78515 May 6, 2013
SSS wrote:
<quoted text>
And count it as part of their wages, which means they get less in their Paycheck to take home. It's also Tax Deductible for their Employer. Isn't that right, Pete? Just like a 401K Employer Contribution is, right? And the Employers' Medical Insurance Payment portion is, right? All counted in as part of the Employees wages, and all eligible for an Employer Tax Deductible, isn't that right?
All accepted accounting practice. And all according to current tax law.

So what's your point?
tired of ignorance

Dunlap, TN

#78516 May 6, 2013
Dunlapian wrote:
<quoted text>I believe this is part of his "proposal" for the 2014 Budget. As I believe he is putting the chained CPI on the table over the COLA. I really believe the Republicans will have to give up to much to make this happen, as they don't want to give up anything.
We shall see, I hope I'm right.
I hope you are too! Thanks for info
Overtaxed

Thorn Hill, TN

#78517 May 6, 2013
Vet wrote:
<quoted text>I will also remind you that the CBO has stated that SS/Medicare/Medicaid are not sustainable as presently configured. To do nothing, which is your position would leave those under 55 with no benefits. If those systems are not reformed, they will die.
The S.S fund is solvent and can pay full benefits until 2032. At that point it will be able to pay approx. 75% of benefits for the forseeable future. So, the fix is pretty simple. Eliminate the prohibition on capital gains from the payroll tax and the problem solves itself.
Those who paid into Social Security from the time they were 16 until they are 50 should not face cuts in their benefits so that "Honestly" can maintain hers.
Overtaxed

Thorn Hill, TN

#78518 May 6, 2013
Vet wrote:
<quoted text>I will also remind you that the CBO has stated that SS/Medicare/Medicaid are not sustainable as presently configured. To do nothing, which is your position would leave those under 55 with no benefits. If those systems are not reformed, they will die.
Medicare is a bit more challenging, BUT if we had passed Medicare for all, the young and healthy would be paying pemiums as well as the aged and that would (in my opinion) change the equasion and provide universal coverage. I think most businesses would gladly get off the merry-go-round of constantly increasing premiums and workers would be glad to hear the cost shifting of premiums from employers to employees has ended. Not to mention taking the for profit motive out of health insurance.
That is my take....for what it's worth.
Overtaxed

Thorn Hill, TN

#78519 May 6, 2013
Vet wrote:
<quoted text>I will also remind you that you have stated that you were in support of welfare for even those who will not work.That's where we have a big disagreement.
Yes, I can't say that I condone those who will not work, but I could not in good concience stand by and let them starve, no matter how sorry they are. That's just me, and I know you disagree. I respect that....

“IMNTBHO”

Since: Dec 10

Smyrna, TN

#78520 May 6, 2013
lol wrote:
<quoted text>If there was no welfare and food stamps the lazy bums would just steal your stuff to live off of.
Then they would, most likely, be shot and killed in the process. Another reason that Libs want to take away guns. So part of their base, criminals, Will survive to vote again.
Overtaxed

Thorn Hill, TN

#78521 May 6, 2013
Vet wrote:
<quoted text>Hey, OT. I will remind you that Saddam and Osama were the catalysts for the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Obama escalated the Afghan war by sending 20K more troops. We reacted to aggression as we always will, in our best interests. You can argue about the conduct of those wars but not that we "started" them.
And I will remind you that I was a supporter of the war in Afghanistan to get Osama and get rid of the training camps.
I was opposed to Iraq when Bush started it. I was called everything from unpatriotic to a traitor by the right wingers then. Well, my friend, I am neither, and it took a bunch of brave servicemen and women's death as well as unspeakable injury to others, and trillions of dollars in tax money for the majority of Americans to come to the same conclusion I made in the beginning.

When others pick and choose which priorities they want their tax money spent on, I feel I has as much right to spend my opinion on where I want mine to go as they do.
Gov2015

Morristown, TN

#78522 May 6, 2013
Not Haslem!

“IMNTBHO”

Since: Dec 10

Smyrna, TN

#78523 May 6, 2013
SSS wrote:
<quoted text>
You're such a brainwashed LIAR! I don't suppose that the Recession and lack of jobs, nor the Outsourcing of our jobs has anything to do with it, in your warped way of thinking.
You need to learn what's really going on in this Country and has been since Bush's last year in Office. There's no excuse for not knowing, except that you just didn't, and don't, want to know the truth...you'd just prefer making it up to suit yourself , which is the type of Person that you are!
First, the outsourcing of jobs started long before Bush, or Reagan for that matter. It escalated after Clinton signed NAFTA. But it had been going on for quite some time. You seem to start with Bush, since you Libs hate him so.

This brings me to my 2nd point. To quote what Carney said last week about Benghazi, "that happened a long time ago". If that is the case and 7 months is a long time ago, then you Libs need to forget about Bush because that was an even longer time ago.

“IMNTBHO”

Since: Dec 10

Smyrna, TN

#78526 May 6, 2013
SSS wrote:
<quoted text>
How many times have I told all of you Controlling TEApublicans that you cannot control what anybody does, but yourselves...NOBODY BUT YOURSELVES! But, you can try to limit the damage Others can do by making it hard for them to have access to ways of doing their damage and that all these Gun Control Proposals will do...limit their access, somewhat. It won't really keep you from having your Gun Rights, but it might slow them down alittle. And to me, that's better than doing nothing or too much, like banning Guns for everybody! I just see it as a small price to pay, if it will save even one innocent Person's Life, even a Teapublican's.
Well, that might depend on which Teapublican it is. Lol!
You dtillbfo not understand that gun laws only affect the law abiding citizens. No law will affect how these criminals and whackos act. The new laws only serve to leave more people as unprotected victims of said criminals and whackos.
Overtaxed

Thorn Hill, TN

#78527 May 6, 2013
Vet wrote:
<quoted text>The reason that there are so many on welfare who don't deserve it is because the left wants their votes. It is unfair and un democratic to force producers to support parasites.
A country that is unwilling or unable to see to it that it's own citizens have food to eat, a warm place to sleep and the ability to visit a doctor when they are sick isn't much of a country...democratic or undemocratic. That goes for those who are Republicans, Democrats, Independants and those who never exercise their right to vote, and believe me there are plenty of all of them who are currently availing themselves of the social safety net.
Gotta go...talk to you later and have a good day.

“IMNTBHO”

Since: Dec 10

Smyrna, TN

#78528 May 6, 2013
NTMD8OR wrote:
<quoted text>
You dtillbfo not understand that gun laws only affect the law abiding citizens. No law will affect how these criminals and whackos act. The new laws only serve to leave more people as unprotected victims of said criminals and whackos.
*still do*

“IMNTBHO”

Since: Dec 10

Smyrna, TN

#78529 May 6, 2013
I look at the difference between SSI and welfare like this. SSI is supposed to help those who have been dealt a bad hand in life thru no fault of their own and cannot help themselves. I have no problem helping them.

Welfare, for the most part, is designed to help people who made bad choices, or are just too lazy to help themselves. I do have a problem here because we are not helping them, we are only enabling then.
Old Hippy

Tampa, FL

#78530 May 6, 2013
SSS wrote:
<quoted text>
How many times have I told all of you Controlling TEApublicans that you cannot control what anybody does, but yourselves...NOBODY BUT YOURSELVES! But, you can try to limit the damage Others can do by making it hard for them to have access to ways of doing their damage and that all these Gun Control Proposals will do...limit their access, somewhat. It won't really keep you from having your Gun Rights, but it might slow them down alittle. And to me, that's better than doing nothing or too much, like banning Guns for everybody! I just see it as a small price to pay, if it will save even one innocent Person's Life, even a Teapublican's.
Well, that might depend on which Teapublican it is. Lol!
So you say no one should have guns but you?

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#78531 May 6, 2013
Overtaxed wrote:
<quoted text>OH NO !! More "indoctrination by repetitiveness" "Willard" ? Chuckles !!
I leave the "repetitive indoctrination" to those wishing to "fundamentally change" America! I know it's an enormous undertaking and I applaud your commitment! Myself, I prefer honesty and the truth of history. I also prefer a government which affords personal freedom, freedom of religion, the free pursuit of happines and the American dream! I also prefer the protections from tyranny and dictatorial power expressed in our Constitution.

Most readers will themselves determine the truthfulness of your claim, and will decide who the "repetitive indoctrination" voices really are! Leftists (socialist and marxists) will attempt to demonize Americans directly engaged in promoting industry and commerce, at least to the satisfaction of the stupid. They're very easy to recognize and "repetitively" echo these subversive ideas:

Business owners are all inherently selfish

Capitalism isn't working - socialism is better

Class warfare is good for America

Corporations are all inherently greedy

Profit is evil

abstinence from welfare is "elitist"

National fiscal solvency isn't really necessary

American government can operate without "budgets"

Government must micro-manage every aspect of society

Tea-party conservatives should be annihilated

Population control by abortion (murder) is honorable

the destruction of the U.S. Constitution is necessary

Last, but not least - Willard must be demonized because he pulls the mask off socialist activists masquarading as "folksy" personalities looking for good old political discussion, building a platform for deceptive socialist propaganda.

I encourage all to take a look at the face of this well organized global movement.

http://bit.ly/10gYtrE - Interview with ex-hitler youth

http://bit.ly/K9unw3 - Friends, listen to video interviews and observe all of the signs in this crowd.

"Up-chuckles"

“IMNTBHO”

Since: Dec 10

Smyrna, TN

#78532 May 6, 2013
Dunlapian wrote:
<quoted text>......."Unlike most Libs,". Are you serious?
Totally. A huge part of the Liberal base is people who are receiving benefits from Government giveaway programs.

Since: Mar 13

Location hidden

#78533 May 6, 2013
NTMD8OR wrote:
<quoted text>
Totally. A huge part of the Liberal base is people who are receiving benefits from Government giveaway programs.
Hi there NTMD8R, I've enjoyed posts from ya'll today. I just wanted to say hello to you and Vet..good work btw! I hope your day is good and it quits raining @#$%$#@!!: Later!
tired of ignorance

Dunlap, TN

#78534 May 6, 2013
NTMD8OR wrote:
I look at the difference between SSI and welfare like this. SSI is supposed to help those who have been dealt a bad hand in life thru no fault of their own and cannot help themselves. I have no problem helping them.

Welfare, for the most part, is designed to help people who made bad choices, or are just too lazy to help themselves. I do have a problem here because we are not helping them, we are only enabling then.
There are a lot of people that's been dealt a bad hand in life, but that's no excuse for not working.A disabled person can draw a check and still allied to make $800a month without losing their check.The majority of these people you are speaking of will never go to work if they are handed a check

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