Overtaxed

Thorn Hill, TN

#78502 May 6, 2013
NTMD8OR wrote:
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Unlike most Libs, we working people pay taxes for these things. What makes us mad is that they take those taxes and give them to lazy bums that have never worked a day in their life instead of fixing those roads and bridges that are in such a state of disrepair now.
Let me clue ya, "we working people" include members of both parties, and "we working people" pay taxes for those things as well. What makes us mad is that they take those taxes and give them to oil companies, mega-ag multi-nationals, and Wall Street bankers in the form of gifts and subsidies, and they start wars of choice which cost trillions of dollars and untold lives.
Overtaxed

Thorn Hill, TN

#78503 May 6, 2013
ORIGINAL WILLARD wrote:
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I think they call this situational ethics and moral relativism! However, these perks are for marxists and socialists exclusively. It's big in all the universities!:-)
OH NO !! More "indoctrination by repetitiveness" "Willard" ? Chuckles !!
Pete

Johnson City, TN

#78504 May 6, 2013
SSS wrote:
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And count it as part of their wages, which means they get less in their Paycheck to take home. It's also Tax Deductible for their Employer. Isn't that right, Pete? Just like a 401K Employer Contribution is, right? And the Employers' Medical Insurance Payment portion is, right? All counted in as part of the Employees wages, and all eligible for an Employer Tax Deductible, isn't that right?
That's right Sassy, it is tax deductible, which means I still have to pay 70% of it when and only when we report a profit for the year. Regardless of whether it is tax deductible or not, the fact is that corporations and businesses are paying half of SSS and medicare. That was my point.
Overtaxed

Thorn Hill, TN

#78506 May 6, 2013
Honestly wrote:
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they are talking about people that are at the age of 50 or less. It will not affect the ones who are on SS right now. I am not concerned about that since I am a ss drawer as well.
Well, well, well, why am I not surprised that you aren't concerned with those who are 50 or younger. Hurray for me and .......
Dunlapian

Dunlap, TN

#78508 May 6, 2013
tired of ignorance wrote:
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I read that Obama endorsed SS cuts in order to please the Republicans and meet the budget No one has said who just said SS cuts
I believe this is part of his "proposal" for the 2014 Budget. As I believe he is putting the chained CPI on the table over the COLA. I really believe the Republicans will have to give up to much to make this happen, as they don't want to give up anything.
We shall see, I hope I'm right.
Overtaxed

Thorn Hill, TN

#78509 May 6, 2013
Honestly wrote:
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Of course you are also including Bill Gates, Warren, Soros and a plethora of others who are super wealthy and liberal
Do you think it matters what party they belong to ? Are you so shallow that you think party affiliation would make the truth less true ?
Oh....for a second I forgot who I was answering, of course you do.
Dunlapian

Dunlap, TN

#78510 May 6, 2013
Honestly wrote:
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they are talking about people that are at the age of 50 or less. It will not affect the ones who are on SS right now. I am not concerned about that since I am a ss drawer as well.
We are all Americans in the same boat, we should all work as one to keep her afloat. Not just me, me, me!
Dunlapian

Dunlap, TN

#78512 May 6, 2013
NTMD8OR wrote:
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Unlike most Libs, we working people pay taxes for these things. What makes us mad is that they take those taxes and give them to lazy bums that have never worked a day in their life instead of fixing those roads and bridges that are in such a state of disrepair now.
......."Unlike most Libs,". Are you serious?
Scarlett Pimple

Jamestown, TN

#78513 May 6, 2013
SSS wrote:
Your TEApublican Party is facing the consequences right now of the Sequester that was Paul Ryan and Eric Cantor's bright idea
Faulty information yields faulty conclusions.

FYI - the sequester was Obama's idea, and the WH has finally admitted that fact.

White House Admits (Third Time) President Obama Fibbed On Sequester

"Is the press corps getting some guts? Are they finally prepared to challenge the President’s untruthful assertions on facts that are crucial to understanding policy?

None other than NBC’s David Gregory today pressed Obama’s chief economic advisor, Gene Sperling, whether his boss told the truth in the third presidential debate that “the sequester is not something that I’ve proposed. It is something that Congress has proposed.”

"Sperling finally wilted under the pressure of tough questioning to admit that “yes, in fact, the sequestration was President Obama’s plan.”

Sorry to break your bubble, but I guess we can reasonably say that you do not know what you're talking about.
Scarlett Pimple

Jamestown, TN

#78514 May 6, 2013
lol wrote:
<quoted text>If there was no welfare and food stamps the lazy bums would just steal your stuff to live off of.
Most of them do that now anyway - they're just better fed and fatter.
Scarlett Pimple

Jamestown, TN

#78515 May 6, 2013
SSS wrote:
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And count it as part of their wages, which means they get less in their Paycheck to take home. It's also Tax Deductible for their Employer. Isn't that right, Pete? Just like a 401K Employer Contribution is, right? And the Employers' Medical Insurance Payment portion is, right? All counted in as part of the Employees wages, and all eligible for an Employer Tax Deductible, isn't that right?
All accepted accounting practice. And all according to current tax law.

So what's your point?
tired of ignorance

Dunlap, TN

#78516 May 6, 2013
Dunlapian wrote:
<quoted text>I believe this is part of his "proposal" for the 2014 Budget. As I believe he is putting the chained CPI on the table over the COLA. I really believe the Republicans will have to give up to much to make this happen, as they don't want to give up anything.
We shall see, I hope I'm right.
I hope you are too! Thanks for info
Overtaxed

Thorn Hill, TN

#78517 May 6, 2013
Vet wrote:
<quoted text>I will also remind you that the CBO has stated that SS/Medicare/Medicaid are not sustainable as presently configured. To do nothing, which is your position would leave those under 55 with no benefits. If those systems are not reformed, they will die.
The S.S fund is solvent and can pay full benefits until 2032. At that point it will be able to pay approx. 75% of benefits for the forseeable future. So, the fix is pretty simple. Eliminate the prohibition on capital gains from the payroll tax and the problem solves itself.
Those who paid into Social Security from the time they were 16 until they are 50 should not face cuts in their benefits so that "Honestly" can maintain hers.
Overtaxed

Thorn Hill, TN

#78518 May 6, 2013
Vet wrote:
<quoted text>I will also remind you that the CBO has stated that SS/Medicare/Medicaid are not sustainable as presently configured. To do nothing, which is your position would leave those under 55 with no benefits. If those systems are not reformed, they will die.
Medicare is a bit more challenging, BUT if we had passed Medicare for all, the young and healthy would be paying pemiums as well as the aged and that would (in my opinion) change the equasion and provide universal coverage. I think most businesses would gladly get off the merry-go-round of constantly increasing premiums and workers would be glad to hear the cost shifting of premiums from employers to employees has ended. Not to mention taking the for profit motive out of health insurance.
That is my take....for what it's worth.
Overtaxed

Thorn Hill, TN

#78519 May 6, 2013
Vet wrote:
<quoted text>I will also remind you that you have stated that you were in support of welfare for even those who will not work.That's where we have a big disagreement.
Yes, I can't say that I condone those who will not work, but I could not in good concience stand by and let them starve, no matter how sorry they are. That's just me, and I know you disagree. I respect that....

“IMNTBHO”

Since: Dec 10

Smyrna, TN

#78520 May 6, 2013
lol wrote:
<quoted text>If there was no welfare and food stamps the lazy bums would just steal your stuff to live off of.
Then they would, most likely, be shot and killed in the process. Another reason that Libs want to take away guns. So part of their base, criminals, Will survive to vote again.
Overtaxed

Thorn Hill, TN

#78521 May 6, 2013
Vet wrote:
<quoted text>Hey, OT. I will remind you that Saddam and Osama were the catalysts for the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. Obama escalated the Afghan war by sending 20K more troops. We reacted to aggression as we always will, in our best interests. You can argue about the conduct of those wars but not that we "started" them.
And I will remind you that I was a supporter of the war in Afghanistan to get Osama and get rid of the training camps.
I was opposed to Iraq when Bush started it. I was called everything from unpatriotic to a traitor by the right wingers then. Well, my friend, I am neither, and it took a bunch of brave servicemen and women's death as well as unspeakable injury to others, and trillions of dollars in tax money for the majority of Americans to come to the same conclusion I made in the beginning.

When others pick and choose which priorities they want their tax money spent on, I feel I has as much right to spend my opinion on where I want mine to go as they do.
Gov2015

Morristown, TN

#78522 May 6, 2013
Not Haslem!

“IMNTBHO”

Since: Dec 10

Smyrna, TN

#78523 May 6, 2013
SSS wrote:
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You're such a brainwashed LIAR! I don't suppose that the Recession and lack of jobs, nor the Outsourcing of our jobs has anything to do with it, in your warped way of thinking.
You need to learn what's really going on in this Country and has been since Bush's last year in Office. There's no excuse for not knowing, except that you just didn't, and don't, want to know the truth...you'd just prefer making it up to suit yourself , which is the type of Person that you are!
First, the outsourcing of jobs started long before Bush, or Reagan for that matter. It escalated after Clinton signed NAFTA. But it had been going on for quite some time. You seem to start with Bush, since you Libs hate him so.

This brings me to my 2nd point. To quote what Carney said last week about Benghazi, "that happened a long time ago". If that is the case and 7 months is a long time ago, then you Libs need to forget about Bush because that was an even longer time ago.

“IMNTBHO”

Since: Dec 10

Smyrna, TN

#78526 May 6, 2013
SSS wrote:
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How many times have I told all of you Controlling TEApublicans that you cannot control what anybody does, but yourselves...NOBODY BUT YOURSELVES! But, you can try to limit the damage Others can do by making it hard for them to have access to ways of doing their damage and that all these Gun Control Proposals will do...limit their access, somewhat. It won't really keep you from having your Gun Rights, but it might slow them down alittle. And to me, that's better than doing nothing or too much, like banning Guns for everybody! I just see it as a small price to pay, if it will save even one innocent Person's Life, even a Teapublican's.
Well, that might depend on which Teapublican it is. Lol!
You dtillbfo not understand that gun laws only affect the law abiding citizens. No law will affect how these criminals and whackos act. The new laws only serve to leave more people as unprotected victims of said criminals and whackos.

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