Overtaxed

Thorn Hill, TN

#78199 May 4, 2013
Hey wrote:
<quoted text>
I brought this up a while back but I'm just the Conspiracy nut.By the way they have made little drone like Bees ,however that must be some crazy theory anyhow.Just like the one I put up on another site that SSS says I Must have gotten it from some ridiculous place yet I wrote it word for word from the Alliance for Natural Health as to not get it wrong concerning the way in which GMOs are created.
I was laughed at for questioning the Boston Bombing even though 17 out of 20 terror attacks in the last 10 years were FBI manipulated and this seemed it might be following the pattern those usually take.
So go buy some little drone bees,they do lots of other errands also.
"they have made little drone like bees" ? Who have made little drone like bees ? What do the Boston bombings have to do with honey bees anyway ?
Overtaxed

Thorn Hill, TN

#78200 May 4, 2013
Scarlett Pimple wrote:
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You have hit the nail on the head. There are indeed, two Americas, and it IS the rurals against the city folk.
Unfortunately, it seems to always be the city folk trying to force their mores on the rurals.
Most city (and suburbs like Newtown CT) people have never even seen a gun in person.
Most rurals have small arsenals.
Most city folk don't even have a vehicle. Rurals can't NOT have a vehicle.
Why can't we all just CoExiSt?
Well, I hope we can. Here is the issue, cities have a problem with guns and crime, even when they severly limit access to them. Criminals can drive out of the city, in some cases to another state where gun laws are lax, buy guns without background checks and bring them back to the city, where they can be sold to criminals at a premium. They end up being used in crimes against honest law abiding citizens, and those citizens put pressure on THEIR elected reps to DO SOMETHING !
Rural folks, while we have our own issues with crime, aren't subjected to the same circumstances as those who live in cities.
The trick is to get some balance that is the most fair to all concerned.
My post was made to place on the table the fact (and it is a fact) that a majority of Americans want some sensible gun legislation...BECAUSE that majority lives in cities. Ask the County Sheriff in any rural county and guns are the least of his problems, and probably not even on his radar. Ask a city chief of police and gun violence is at the top of his list.
You posted that those folks in Sandy Hook probably never saw a gun in person. Well, Connecticut is a tiny state, but it was (in some cases still is) the home to Colt Firearms, Winchester, Marlin, Mossburg, and more. All were huge enterprises and all employed thousands upon thousands of Connecticut residents. I suspect those folks have all seen a gun.
I hope and pray that no other parent ever has to go through what those parents in Newtown have had to go through, but every parent should try to walk a mile in their shoes before condemning their activism for stricter gun laws. If what has happened to them had happened to me, I don't know if I could act with as much grace and in as respectful a manner as they have.
Overtaxed

Thorn Hill, TN

#78201 May 4, 2013
Pete wrote:
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Hi Sassy. First, I wanted to comment about your post on Bumble Bees. I don't know when the last time was that I saw one. I didn't even take notice until I saw your post. That is sort of concerning.
Second, I realize you want our president to succeed, and believe it or not, so do I. I can't afford to go through an economy as bad as this one for too long. Therefore, I hope our President is highly successful and will applaud him when he is. Today's unemployment data is a great sign. However, the stock market is going up strictly due to one thing - the Fed's policy on interest rates. Our low interest rates are what is spurring the stock market. If you can't make money investing in CD's, Bonds, fixed rate mutual funds, etc., there is only one avenue left ... the stock market. Once inflation starts to trend upward or once the housing market has somewhat recovered, interest rates are going to start rising. When they do, the stock market will take a hit. Right now, it is the only game in town regarding investments. If you care to research, you will find that the stocks paying dividends are the ones driving up the Dow.
That is a good explaination "Pete" and I agree with every word. I will add three things.
1) Those huge corporations are doing pretty well, even with the current economic situation in this country and Europe. It is Main Street that is still mired in recession, only in SLIGHTLY better shape than a few years ago.
2) Our tax policy incentivises passive income over actually making or doing things, so money flows to the most attractive passive investment of the moment and drives bubble and crash after bubble and crash instead of a slow steady incline toward wealth.
3) Unemployment numbers help the stock market by keeping labor costs low but harms Main Street, which depends on disposable income to grow and prosper.
A two tiered system that is increasingly disconnected.
Dunlapian

Dunlap, TN

#78202 May 4, 2013
Overtaxed wrote:
<quoted text>"they have made little drone like bees" ? Who have made little drone like bees ? What do the Boston bombings have to do with honey bees anyway ?
Damn those "Honey Bees, I knew they were up to no good! LOL.
But seriously O.T., I really hope they do get a handle on this Bee issue, so you can start your hives again.
Many years back where I was living, I knew this Russian guy who raised bees for pollen. So I would buy it off him and put it on my cereal, yogurt, ect. to help with the local allergy issue.
Overtaxed

Thorn Hill, TN

#78203 May 4, 2013
Hey wrote:
<quoted text>
You throw shit out and hope it sticks somewhere.
All someone has to do is check out the site I put up about the GMOs and they can see what you are about and who is telling the truth.
I think you do a lot of throwing as well "Hey".
I read some of the info. you posted about on GMO's and I tend to agree that there may well be unintended consequences of all that genetic manipulation.....although I am a LONG way from a scientist. I'm not happy with Monsanto lawing farmers for replanting seed harvested last year, and the Roundup resistant super weeds are now a problem in most farm fields.
Those points of agreement with you aren't enough for old "Hey" though.....In order to have a conversation with you, a poster has to subscribe to all of your conspiracy theories....911, FBI false flag operations, and every other conspiracy that has ever been dreamed up by those I consider a bunch of nuts.
Now, I will stand up for your right to believe and post anything you want....that is American at it's core....but if you want anyone to take anything you post seriously, I respectfully suggest you accept the fact that on SOME issues, some posters, myself included, think you are pretty far out there.
Overtaxed

Thorn Hill, TN

#78204 May 4, 2013
Dunlapian wrote:
<quoted text>Damn those "Honey Bees, I knew they were up to no good! LOL.
But seriously O.T., I really hope they do get a handle on this Bee issue, so you can start your hives again.
Many years back where I was living, I knew this Russian guy who raised bees for pollen. So I would buy it off him and put it on my cereal, yogurt, ect. to help with the local allergy issue.
Hey "Dunlapian". I know of other people who use bee pollen to treat allergies, especially in kids, and I know some who claim there is nothing better than raw honey to protect cuts and burns from infection.
I talked to a customer this morning who is having some luck with those little black honey bees as opposed to the Italian strain. The problem is, those little black bees aren't calm and easy to work like the Italian strain is. Rob those hives, and they get mad as heck !

“IMNTBHO”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#78206 May 4, 2013
SexySassySenior wrote:
Just one more thing and I'll shut up about it...If anybody has noticed, you hardly ever see Bumble Bees, either.
I "think" Bumble Bees mainly just pollinate Flowers that aren't food producers, but it's interesting that they have become scarce, too, to my way of thinking. There has to be a connection, I would think, but who knows for sure.
I don't know much about bumble bees and honey bees, but I do know that every year there is no shortage of those pesky wood boring bees on our front porch.
Pete

Johnson City, TN

#78207 May 4, 2013
Overtaxed wrote:
<quoted text> That is a good explaination "Pete" and I agree with every word. I will add three things.
1) Those huge corporations are doing pretty well, even with the current economic situation in this country and Europe. It is Main Street that is still mired in recession, only in SLIGHTLY better shape than a few years ago.
2) Our tax policy incentivises passive income over actually making or doing things, so money flows to the most attractive passive investment of the moment and drives bubble and crash after bubble and crash instead of a slow steady incline toward wealth.
3) Unemployment numbers help the stock market by keeping labor costs low but harms Main Street, which depends on disposable income to grow and prosper.
A two tiered system that is increasingly disconnected.
Hi OT,

This is one area we will have to disagree on. For instance, regarding #2, short term capital gains are taxed more heavily than long term capital gains. That incents investors to hold their investments longer. I don't exactly know what you mean by a passive investment, but our current tax policy incents any and all investment, i.e,. IRA, Roth, 401k, lower taxes on capital gains and dividends, etc. It really doesn't favor one type of investing over another, it simply entices investment whether it be individuals or corporations.

Regarding #3, if corporations aren't staffed to an efficient level, they lose money. They can't make as much, can't distribute as much, etc. I agree, corporations aren't currently maintaining a full staff, but I don't think it is because they want to. Most corporations are waiting to see what the full effects of our new healthcare laws are going to be before determining what level of staffing they want. I am by no means a large corporation, but I am doing that and it is of my opinion that if I'm doing that, there are others. Some have publicly stated they are doing this. When you have a rather large payroll tax looming on the horizon, corporations are going to take the conservative approach to hiring until they can figure out exactly what the tax is and what balance will be optimal between output and labor costs.

I realize you probably don't agree with what I have said, but I do enjoy hearing your viewpoints on subjects such as these even though they may be different than mine. Hope you have a great weekend!
Hey

Cookeville, TN

#78208 May 4, 2013
SexySassySenior wrote:
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You know, I tried to talk to you in a reasonable way, but One can't reason with an unreasonable Person and, you are an unreasonable Person.
I won't make that mistake again. And Just so you know, I couldn't care less what you say, think, do , or anything about you, period! I'm done with you. Keep acting like just what you are, it's no skin off my back, no matter what you do! And don't flatter yourself by thinking any differently...that'll just be another mistake you'll make!
Oh my.You have tried so hard to convince me of my errors ,tried to help me to know where you think I should go to get my informatio and after all your help I just don't appreciate all you have done.I have rebuffed all your goodness and intellect to my very detriment.
May God help me and hopefully in the future,if not sooner I will mend my hopeless ways and kiss your ass.
FU

“IMNTBHO”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#78209 May 4, 2013
ORIGINAL WILLARD wrote:
<quoted text>
Me? I'm so excited I can hardly stand it! I can't wait to do the math extrapolation to understand how big my employees' raises will be! Let's see, we have half of one percent differential to work with...yeah, looks good!:-) Break out the party hats and balloons...how much is a new bass-boat? I'll cut a memo in the morning...hire hire hire!! Besides, the economists attesting to actual unemployment rates of 13-15% are just partisan party-poopers, we can have "Seal Team 6" take their sorry asses out!! what the hell do they know, anyway? Our president is spending upward of a trillion dollars a year..how could we ever fail? LMAO!:-))
OW, the way I see it, the record highs in the stock market are happening because the Fed is constantly printing more money. This makes everything worth more Dollars while,, at the same time, devaluing the Dollar. So while everything is worth more Dollars and the Dollar being worth less we are, at best if that, breaking even. Incidentally, all this printing of new money only helps the portfolios of people who are heavily invested in the stock market, making them appear richer. It does not help the average person with their 401K that much because they do not have enough in the market to be affected by it. It also hinders the poor more because it causes everything they buy to be more expensive.

“IMNTBHO”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#78210 May 4, 2013
ORIGINAL WILLARD wrote:
<quoted text>
I congratulate SexySassySenior for posting this editorial! If she had actually read the article, she would never have posted it!:-)
I encourage my friends to review this thoroughly! Thanks!
http://www.examiner.com/article/colorado-edit ...
OW, you know she only reads headlines of what she posts and then makes her own assumptions about what it says. LOL

“IMNTBHO”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#78211 May 4, 2013
SexySassySenior wrote:
<quoted text>
You're actually hoping that this Country goes into banruptcy, just because of your hatred of one Man...OBAMA! That makes you a Traitor, IMO!
If your "Business" fails, it'll be because of your Poor Management and warped thinking and actions...and no other reason!
Anybody who thinks like you do, shouldn't own a business, anyway...so, it was doomed from the start!
If you want to save it, you better hire somebody to run it for you before you lose everything...is my advice...because you incapable of making good business decisions...too bias in your thinking and views to make rational decisions about anything. You are only capable of seeing one side of any issue, YOUR side and that's it! Plus, you get enraged if you don't get your way about EVERYTHING! That's means that your not a rational thinker because Nobody gets their way all the time, not even you! Lose the "God-like" complex, would be a good start for you and realize that you're just a Human, like the rest of us...flawed and prone to make mistakes!
You talk like you are an expert on this matter. How many successful businesses do you own?

“IMNTBHO”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#78212 May 4, 2013
Olivia wrote:
<quoted text>
I hate to use the word, but can think of no other that adequately describes your statement and that is "ignorant". The far right and wing nut gun fanatics are the fascists that most relate to Nazi Germany.
This is funny. I always heard that the first thing Hitler and the Nazi's did was to disarm the people. It is the facist socialists on the left that want to do that. The right fights FOR gun rights of individuals.
Hey

Cookeville, TN

#78213 May 4, 2013
Overtaxed wrote:
<quoted text>I think you do a lot of throwing as well "Hey".
I read some of the info. you posted about on GMO's and I tend to agree that there may well be unintended consequences of all that genetic manipulation.....although I am a LONG way from a scientist. I'm not happy with Monsanto lawing farmers for replanting seed harvested last year, and the Roundup resistant super weeds are now a problem in most farm fields.
Those points of agreement with you aren't enough for old "Hey" though.....In order to have a conversation with you, a poster has to subscribe to all of your conspiracy theories....911, FBI false flag operations, and every other conspiracy that has ever been dreamed up by those I consider a bunch of nuts.
Now, I will stand up for your right to believe and post anything you want....that is American at it's core....but if you want anyone to take anything you post seriously, I respectfully suggest you accept the fact that on SOME issues, some posters, myself included, think you are pretty far out there.
I said I was wondering about the Boston bombings because of the same patterns it was taking .Things coming out by the so called conspiracy nuts that were denied by FBI etc which later on were admitted to.
When you have 17 out of 20 terror plots in the US in 10 years that come to light as FBI involved I would say(and the education I received tells me and others that this could be another FBI spin.
It would be showing a lack of intelligence to see the past history of what has gone on and NOT WONDER.
As far as 9/11 goes,the firefighters,the family members who lost loved ones,building evperts,etc,etc,gave their reasons as to why they see problems with the official stories on some parts of 9/11 and I can see where they are coming from.If they were going against what God of truth and an all knowing God would say then one might put more weight to the official story.Is that really where those fine folks in DC or Big Corp. are coming from?These others who are questioning these things have credibility and it appears reality on their side,Does this make them fools and therefor me also?

“IMNTBHO”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#78214 May 4, 2013
Honestly wrote:
I'm BACK..........
Welcome back
Hey

Cookeville, TN

#78215 May 4, 2013
Overtaxed wrote:
<quoted text>"they have made little drone like bees" ? Who have made little drone like bees ? What do the Boston bombings have to do with honey bees anyway ?
Who makes ROBOBEES? Why, Harvard School of Engineering and Applied Sciences of course.

“IMNTBHO”

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#78216 May 4, 2013
Hey wrote:
<quoted text>
I said I was wondering about the Boston bombings because of the same patterns it was taking .Things coming out by the so called conspiracy nuts that were denied by FBI etc which later on were admitted to.
When you have 17 out of 20 terror plots in the US in 10 years that come to light as FBI involved I would say(and the education I received tells me and others that this could be another FBI spin.
It would be showing a lack of intelligence to see the past history of what has gone on and NOT WONDER.
As far as 9/11 goes,the firefighters,the family members who lost loved ones,building evperts,etc,etc,gave their reasons as to why they see problems with the official stories on some parts of 9/11 and I can see where they are coming from.If they were going against what God of truth and an all knowing God would say then one might put more weight to the official story.Is that really where those fine folks in DC or Big Corp. are coming from?These others who are questioning these things have credibility and it appears reality on their side,Does this make them fools and therefor me also?
I still cannot understand why they spent 20 hours after the shootout doing a house by house search for suspect #2 instead of letting their K9's track him from the abandoned SUV to his hiding place. There was even a blood trail. I'm sure he even had traces of explosives on him that would also be trackable. Why would they do a house to house search instead?
Hey

Cookeville, TN

#78217 May 4, 2013
Dunlapian wrote:
<quoted text>Yes Linda, you can just follow the money and find out how we ended up with all these weapons.
Yup.And we can just follow the Fast and Furious and see where the Mexican Drug cartels got a load of weapons.
While on Obama's trip to Mexico that somehow didn't come up.
And SSS mentioned my weapons on another site and I wish she'd tell me where the hell I put them suckers cause I can't find them.But she knows I've got them somewhere.Are they in my closet,my basement the attic the barn.I been taking the house apart cause she said I have the things.
Please help. She is not talking to me so could you please ask her where my high powered guns are?
Scarlett Pimple

Jamestown, TN

#78218 May 4, 2013
SexySassySenior wrote:
Darn that President Obama, look what he has done went and caused , AGAIN! Just imagine what he could have caused if the TEApublicans weren't working against him on EVERYTHING, EVERYDAY!
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"Dow, S & P 500 Close At Record Levels After Jobs Report."
Click here:
http://news.yahoo.com/stock-futures-little-ch...
Congratulations to Obama for having saved the rich from the recession. They are getting richer everyday in the stick market. For the rest of us. Itís not so good.

The unemployment rate is down, however the number of unemployed is up. Sounds like double talk, doesnít it?

The real fact is that 9 million people have left the workforce, so they are no linger counted in the unemployment rate. At the same time the number of people getting government assistance has gone through the roof. Betcha they didnít make much from yesterdayís historic stock market news.

Hereís another thing to think about. At one time, most of the jobs in this country were created or provided by small businesses, that play two critically important roles in our economy. One, they tend to give new workers their first employment experience. Two, small business tends to train workers who are then able to move up the job ladder to better paying corporate jobs, having learned the ropes at a small business.

Entrepreneurs and small businesses are being absolutely devastated by rules, regulations, red tape, and by oppressive levels of taxation. Consequently, the percentage of Americans that are working for themselves has never been lower in the history of the United States.

http://www.kauffman.org/newsroom/number-of-fi...

So while you may look at the recent stock market activity as an indication that the economy is coming back, the real indicators of economic health arenít doing very well, and the outlook is even worse.
Hey

Cookeville, TN

#78219 May 4, 2013
NTMD8OR wrote:
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I still cannot understand why they spent 20 hours after the shootout doing a house by house search for suspect #2 instead of letting their K9's track him from the abandoned SUV to his hiding place. There was even a blood trail. I'm sure he even had traces of explosives on him that would also be trackable. Why would they do a house to house search instead?
How dare you think for yourself. MSM will tell you what you need to know.
You are suppose to just listen and shut up and go back to sleep and if you don't well you are some kind of nut, racist, etc and you best get on the medication.
That is a good question though.

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