Since: Feb 13

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#77417 Apr 27, 2013
Honestly wrote:
<quoted text>
you really want to know what happened. do you----you won't like what you here.
Some savy business person decided one day that they would start a business that would provide temporary workers to any company that paid them for their services. In return, the temp business would provide the worker, pay them and give them benefits. All the worker has to do is show up at work. Now you ask yourself why?
Well, The rules, especially with labor unions has been for some time put a strangle hold on many businesses. Liability at that time played a big role in companies hiring temp workers. The company does not have to carry workers comp. The temp service does. This is a big hit to smaller companies that are starting out.
No it was nothing sinister but CAPITALISM at work. More people get hired as a temp than having PRN, Part-timers on the company payroll. Its just good business sense. Also,I might mention one other item. If my company hires a person, it is very hard to get rid of them without paying unemployment insurance fee to the state gov. If they don't work out on temp. just tell the temp service to send another. It would be up to the temp service to get rid of the employee.
Dems/Libs cannot see this because they are so caught up that conservatives want to the poorer people to have nothing. WHile that is a falsehood, it is also very hard to change in the minds of people on the dole. Also, you cannot fix stupid.
Well Duh, I just told you why in my previous Posts...in detail! If you think I'm going to keep repeating it , just because you wouldn't read it the first time, you're NUTS!
Let me explain something to you, Bubba...if you're going to participate in a conversation, you HAVE to listen to what the Other People are saying...in this case, posting! If you don't, your comments come across as really stupid! In real Life, that's when everybody gets really quiet. Ever notice that happening when you're talking to people in a Real Life conversation? I'll bet you have, but I'll also bet you didn't have a clue why, because again, you were daydreaming and not paying attention to what anybody else was saying, but you decided to chime in, anyway. Stopped the conversation dead in it's tracks, didn't it? Want me to tell you what they were thinking, but not saying? I'll betcha, it was something along the lines of, "He didn't just say that...DID HE"?
Honestly

Beechgrove, TN

#77418 Apr 27, 2013
The trickle down theory is just that. Rem, When Ronald Reagan took office, the unemployment was about 14%, inflation about 17% and interest rates in some cases went as high as 21% on a home loan.

The theory states that if: I give a company owner(s) a tax break, a low interest loan (for capital and buildings), they (the owners) will use it to increase their business. By increasing their businesses the owners need to hire more people. True, they could hire temp employees instead of PRN or part-time employees. It really does not matter except to Unions who have no control of Temp service businesses. The number of hours needed is the same whether they hire a temp or other. If the hours needed get high enough, then the company will most likely hire fulltime employees instead of the using temps.(Keep in mind the temp services charges $17-20/per hour even if it is a low (minimum) wage worker. The worker does not see this but the temp service charges this.) When you put more people to work, they spend more, the more they work the more they spend and the more inventory factories have to make to sell to these people. It is a circle. You work, you buy, the company sells more, the company hires more. KNOWN and the 'Trickle Down Theory' GET IT I doubt but , hey I tried.

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#77419 Apr 28, 2013
Honestly wrote:
<quoted text>
you really want to know what happened. do you----you won't like what you here.
Some savy business person decided one day that they would start a business that would provide temporary workers to any company that paid them for their services. In return, the temp business would provide the worker, pay them and give them benefits. All the worker has to do is show up at work. Now you ask yourself why?
Well, The rules, especially with labor unions has been for some time put a strangle hold on many businesses. Liability at that time played a big role in companies hiring temp workers. The company does not have to carry workers comp. The temp service does. This is a big hit to smaller companies that are starting out.
No it was nothing sinister but CAPITALISM at work. More people get hired as a temp than having PRN, Part-timers on the company payroll. Its just good business sense. Also,I might mention one other item. If my company hires a person, it is very hard to get rid of them without paying unemployment insurance fee to the state gov. If they don't work out on temp. just tell the temp service to send another. It would be up to the temp service to get rid of the employee.
Dems/Libs cannot see this because they are so caught up that conservatives want to the poorer people to have nothing. WHile that is a falsehood, it is also very hard to change in the minds of people on the dole. Also, you cannot fix stupid.
First of all, Dude, I've never worked for a Temp Service in my life and I would not work for one. But, I did work for a Company that hired a Temp Company to take Applications, Interview, and do the Drug Test,(which was a joke compared to real Drug Tests), for the Company, instead of the Company doing it, themselves.
Second of all, Workers Comp is actually an Insurance Policy for the Company, in case a Worker gets hurt, the Company doesn't have to pay the Liabilty Claim. So, unless it's changed since I retired , which I doubt, neither one has to have Workmans' Comp, but they're taking a heck of a chance if they don't and opening themselves up to major Liability Payments out of Pocket, if one of their workers gets hurt on the job.
The only reason the Temp company has it is for the Ones who work for them. I guarantee you that the Employees that actually work FOR the Company, not just AT the Company, are covered by the "Company's" Workers Comp!
When you're hired through a Temporary Service, you actually work FOR the Temporary Service, NOT for the Company! You're paid less than a Company Worker doing the same job...that's how the Temp Service makes it's money...they get the difference in pay. You pick up your check at the Temp Service, not at the Company, like the Company workers do. Just to make a long story short, Every piece of business that a Company Worker takes care of, AT the Company, a Temp Worker takes care of at the Temp Service Office because that is your actual Employer and Everything you have is through them, NOT the Company.

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#77421 Apr 28, 2013
Honestly wrote:
The trickle down theory is just that. Rem, When Ronald Reagan took office, the unemployment was about 14%, inflation about 17% and interest rates in some cases went as high as 21% on a home loan.
The theory states that if: I give a company owner(s) a tax break, a low interest loan (for capital and buildings), they (the owners) will use it to increase their business. By increasing their businesses the owners need to hire more people. True, they could hire temp employees instead of PRN or part-time employees. It really does not matter except to Unions who have no control of Temp service businesses. The number of hours needed is the same whether they hire a temp or other. If the hours needed get high enough, then the company will most likely hire fulltime employees instead of the using temps.(Keep in mind the temp services charges $17-20/per hour even if it is a low (minimum) wage worker. The worker does not see this but the temp service charges this.) When you put more people to work, they spend more, the more they work the more they spend and the more inventory factories have to make to sell to these people. It is a circle. You work, you buy, the company sells more, the company hires more. KNOWN and the 'Trickle Down Theory' GET IT I doubt but , hey I tried.
Temporary Workers and Temporary Worker Agencies have been around for a very long time, in big Cities and they wer all Clerical and Office Workers until Reagan's Years and the Trickle Down Economic Throry change, at whaich time they expanded to the Manufacturing Industry.
Before that, they were usually People who only wanted to work Parttime, without any set schedule or requirement to be there everyday, such as Students, Mothers, etc. who just wanted to earn some extra money, with no committments that a fulltime Job requires , and that wouldn't go against them, when they did seek Fulltime Employment. They could turn it down if they were called on a certain day that they had something else to do, and it wouldn't go against them on their work record because they had that option.
If somebody was going to be off for vacation or because of illness, the employer would call a Temp Service for somebody to fill in for that employee that was going to be off. It might be a day or a couple of weeks, but usually no more than a month, at one Company or Office. and sometimes, it would just be that an Employer might need an extra Person to do something like help with Inventory or something similar, for a day or two...and they would call the Temp Service. Sometimes, a Temp Worker would work 5 different places in 5 days, too. The Temp Worker was totally in control of how much they worked and if they accepted the job that was offered to them, or not. Plus, Temp Workers were paid MORE back then, for the same job than the regular Office worker made that worked for the Company, just because of the inconvience of changing job places all the time and working constantly in unfamiliar surroundings.
But then, when Temp Services went into the Manufacturing Industry and the Rural Areas, it all changed and became what it is today, A Worker rip-off, IMO!

Since: Feb 13

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#77423 Apr 28, 2013
Honestly wrote:
<quoted text>
Que hay? What does that mean?
What, So What, So There, etc., I think.
Lady Godiva

Knoxville, TN

#77424 Apr 28, 2013
How ya liking Haslam now?

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#77425 Apr 28, 2013
Lady Godiva wrote:
How ya liking Haslam now?
I didn't like him before and I don't like him now, either.
Dunlapian

Dunlap, TN

#77426 Apr 28, 2013
SexySassySenior wrote:
<quoted text>
I didn't like him before and I don't like him now, either.
Good Morning Linda,(hope I can use that name, if not just say so)I see you have been going back and forth with the Conservatives, that think one day they too just might become rich like the 2-3%, while in the mean time they are working very very hard........but for some reason........ahh yes those dang Liberal Policy are holding them back.

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#77427 Apr 28, 2013
Dunlapian wrote:
<quoted text>Good Morning Linda,(hope I can use that name, if not just say so)I see you have been going back and forth with the Conservatives, that think one day they too just might become rich like the 2-3%, while in the mean time they are working very very hard........but for some reason........ahh yes those dang Liberal Policy are holding them back.
Good Morning, Dunlapian, using Linda is fine with me. In fact, I thinking about just changing my user Name to "Linda" and stop playing this silly Name Game. I'm tried of it.
Yes, I just can't understand why the Far-Right conservatives think they're in the same League with the 1 or 2% of the Wealthiest Americans. They aren't and they never will be. Furthermore, the one to two percent of the Wealthiest don't think of them any differently than they think of the Poorest of the Poor and the Conservatives on here don't believe that either, but it is absolutely true. The one to two percent have their own little Elite club and nobody less wealthy than they, are included in it...Nobody! All the rest of the Underlings are just looked down on by them, equally!

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#77430 Apr 28, 2013
"Are Corporate America Tax Dodgers Sinking America?(VIDEO)."

Click here:
http://www.examiner.com/article/are-corporate...
Dunlapian

Dunlap, TN

#77431 Apr 28, 2013
Vet wrote:
<quoted text> There were 165,068 murders between 2000-2010 in all states except Florida.I doubt that Iraq has that many. When we respond to terrorist attacks against Americans, that in no way is adding fuel to the fire. The fire was started by Muslim terrorists. We are still there putting it out.You can admit the reality that Muslim terrorists are trying to kill every American and other Westerners because they hate our way of life, our religion and our freedom or you can make excuses for the head choppers who target an 8 year old boy watching the Boston Marathon.
Vet you say the U.S. is not a stable place with turmoil and strife all over the world. That is a grim statement!
In the same time frame Iraq Civilians have lost between 110,000 to over a million killed. With a population of around 31 million, while the U.S. has a population of over 310 million.
I beleive this whole thing(911 attack) started with us sending over a huge American military(99% Christian) to Saudi Arabia soil. A place the Muslims think of as sacred. Then bin Laden a wealthy Muslim(maybe part of the 98% rich)put together a group of other Muslims to fight this act.
Vet, what would you do if a foreign army(99% Muslim) came to Georgia?
Muslims don't care about our freedoms!
Yes it's horrific that an 8 year old American was killed, but in Iraq this happens almost everyday.........to them it's like a traffic accident.
The bombs they use cause far more damage than a "pressure cooker". the bombs they use, you would have to scrap the remains of kids off the wall to I.D. them.
I see you left out Florida in your stats, interesting!
Anyway when I go to Florida, my stomach turns into a knot, when I go to that "Third World Banana Republic". The only thing I love about Florida is getting in the boat and go out to do some Blue Water fishing, scuba diving, skin diving, spearfishing ect. But I can't stand to just anchor the boat and bottom fish, as to me that is as boring as playing golf.
Anyway Vet enjoy your Sunday with your family. Thank God that you are an American!
Overtaxed

Thorn Hill, TN

#77432 Apr 28, 2013
Honestly wrote:
<quoted text>
They had written a bill that would have given him (pres) the ability to move money around should the sequester go into force. Rem. It was his (Obama's) idea,, sequester. Yes, they have the ability to do that. The bill just give him that ability to move it where he saw fit. That is his job of the executive branch.
I know it's hard for you to grasp, but this law was never supposed to take effect. The result was designed to be SO unpalatable to both parties that neither would allow it to pass. Instead, this hastily designed club or wedge DID become law because congress is frozen in idealogical trench warfare.
Obama COULD have gotten the ability to move money, and with that, the blame for cuts in cancer research, meals on wheels, Headstart, layoffs at military bases etc. and I'm sure you would have loved that....I suspect you would have been one of the first to point that out ! BUT that isn't how the law ended up being written. Congress which created the monster by PASSING the law, and congress deserves the blame.
Ironic isn't it how fast they can pass legislation when it involves themselves and the flying public....but when it comes to meals for old folks.....they need to study that for a few....months, years....maybe decades.
Pete

Johnson City, TN

#77433 Apr 28, 2013
Honestly wrote:
The trickle down theory is just that. Rem, When Ronald Reagan took office, the unemployment was about 14%, inflation about 17% and interest rates in some cases went as high as 21% on a home loan.
The theory states that if: I give a company owner(s) a tax break, a low interest loan (for capital and buildings), they (the owners) will use it to increase their business. By increasing their businesses the owners need to hire more people. True, they could hire temp employees instead of PRN or part-time employees. It really does not matter except to Unions who have no control of Temp service businesses. The number of hours needed is the same whether they hire a temp or other. If the hours needed get high enough, then the company will most likely hire fulltime employees instead of the using temps.(Keep in mind the temp services charges $17-20/per hour even if it is a low (minimum) wage worker. The worker does not see this but the temp service charges this.) When you put more people to work, they spend more, the more they work the more they spend and the more inventory factories have to make to sell to these people. It is a circle. You work, you buy, the company sells more, the company hires more. KNOWN and the 'Trickle Down Theory' GET IT I doubt but , hey I tried.
I guess everyone is selectively forgetting the wonderful Jimmy Carter years.
Overtaxed

Thorn Hill, TN

#77434 Apr 28, 2013
Honestly wrote:
The trickle down theory is just that. Rem, When Ronald Reagan took office, the unemployment was about 14%, inflation about 17% and interest rates in some cases went as high as 21% on a home loan.
The theory states that if:
We all know what the theory states, and a lot of us think Bush I was right when he called it "voodoo ecnomics".
The Reagan policies began the decline in wages for middle class Americans that continues to this day, and his "deficits don't matter" when you spend the money on the military, is still Republican boilerplate now.
An adjusted for inflation 4% total wage increase for American workers in 30 YEARS refutes completely your contention that unions were the problem for American businesses.
Wages have been flat, benefits declned, and now families with two incomes are struggling to provide what one income did. While people like you are lamenting the fact that government has had to pick up the slack with social programs, when if real wages had kept up, those workers would NEVER have qualified for those benefits at all. Meanwhile the 1% have seen their wealth holdings skyrocket.
This is the Reagan legacy.....his "gift" to Americans.
Dunlapian

Dunlap, TN

#77435 Apr 28, 2013
Overtaxed wrote:
<quoted text> Okay, I agree with the first part, now that you put it that way !
Impossible ? Hardly, in fact our country is in the process of accomplishing that as I type this.
Healthcare should not be something available only to those with enough money to afford it, lik a boat a second home or a diamond neckace, especially in the richest country in the world.
I guess what your doctor was telling you was that he isn't making money by the buckets full, and that Obamacare was not going to be a windfall for him either. Well, he can join the rest of us Americans who haven't exactly been on easy street lately. We have all found our paychecks stay the same or shrink for years. Those of us lucky enough to get a paycheck that is.
I predict that poll of doctors will be proven wrong, that doctors will continue to take Medicare patients and Obamacare patients will be welcomed as well, and we won't have as long to wait as those historians will take to evaluate the success of Iraq, to find out which one of us is right !
OT, the way I see the ACA and the Doctors, is the Doctor yes will be getting less money per patient, BUT that same Doctor will have more patients..........thus more income$$$! That is as simple as I can make it.
Bottom line, at the end of the day when all is said and done, the Doctor will be cleaning up$$$$$!
Yes some Doctors will be crying........but they will be crying all the way to the bank!
Tired

Dandridge, TN

#77436 Apr 28, 2013
I wonder what impact, if any, these tragedies in foreign sweat-shops making products for US companies will have.
dont get emotional

United States

#77437 Apr 28, 2013
tea party tea party wrote:
<quoted text>you must have fell out of the stupid tree and hit every limb on the way down....show me what post you are talking about you lying dumbass bitch.
Another priceless gem from the un-emotional poster!
im not a crook

United States

#77438 Apr 28, 2013
Pete wrote:
<quoted text>
I guess everyone is selectively forgetting the wonderful Jimmy Carter years.
Just like people selectively forgetting the wonderful Richard "I'm not a crook" Nixon who hopped on a helicopter before his behind got impeached. Get realistic, there are bums on both sides.
holly

United States

#77439 Apr 28, 2013
Vet wrote:
<quoted text>Hey,)W. No, had some Krystals a couple of hours ago and am full as a tick.Oh, I don't cook. The esposa is a gourmet cook but she didn't feel like cooking tonight.
Vet, I've been reading this thread for while now and I usually don't agree with you, but I respect your opinions. It's nice that people can have a lively discussion on here without getting too hateful. Anyway, when you said you had some Krystals, I felt an immediate bond. No one in my family or circle of friends like Krystals, in fact they hate them. I don't know of anyone in town who lioves Krystals as much as I do. So next time you go, call me. We'll eat a bagful and talk about politics, politely of course!
galturd

Pittsburgh, PA

#77440 Apr 28, 2013
youtube.com/watch...
excuse of a Bigot,,just vote G Bush

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