Overtaxed

Thorn Hill, TN

#76504 Apr 17, 2013
Nuh_ wrote:
<quoted text>
The Senate has a Democrat majority.
Not in a body where 60 has become the new 51.
That's okay though....The Republicans will have the majority in the Senate again one day, and because I am a firm believer that you reap what you sow, the minority can bring their agenda to a halt as well.
Overtaxed

Thorn Hill, TN

#76505 Apr 17, 2013
Scarlett Pimple wrote:
<quoted text>
Not with Mighty Mouse in charge:
http://www.google.com/imgres...
You mean the guy that got bin Laden ?
Hey

Cookeville, TN

#76506 Apr 17, 2013
SexySassySenior wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey, now you know I'm crazy about you...I just keep it well hidden! LMAO!
Please do not ever like me in any way ever.
Pete

Gaffney, SC

#76507 Apr 17, 2013
Overtaxed wrote:
<quoted text> No argument there "Dunlapian" !
I think a part of the answer is to get people like "Pete" who is what I would term a reasonable Republican, to lead the way with the Republican representatives, and for folks like us to support folks like him.
For instance, it SEEMS to me that when real facts are placed before the public, they begin to see the common sense in not helping companies to send jobs overseas with tax incentives. "Pete" believes, based on his post that is not enough to stop the outsourcing, but I SUSPECT he doesn't support the tax incentive....so that would be a good place to start finding common ground.
There are more folks like "Pete" out in the real world than this thread would lead us to believe, and less like "Amos" who screams "socialist" at a President who has governed to the right of Nixon and Eisenhower. The hard part is to find the points of agreement and move those forward, and agree to disagree on the points of contention. I think there will be more of the former, if Americans could just get past the screaming !
I couldn't agree with this more OT. Thanks!

Since: Feb 13

Guild

#76511 Apr 17, 2013
The details emerging from Dr. Kermit Gosnell’s murder trial are so gruesome that, based on the descriptions, one would assume they are fictional scenes from a horror movie. However, the reality is that the court case, which continues to expose the details of the alleged murders of at least seven babies, is, according to witness testimony, anything but a concocted tale.

Back in January 2011, Gosnell was charged with eight murders and the Associated Press described him as a doctor who gave abortions to minorities, immigrants and poor women in a “house of horrors” clinic.”

Gosnell has reportedly earned millions of dollars over the span of 30 years, performing as many illegal, late-term abortions as he could, according to prosecutors.

For over two decades…Kermit Gosnell convinced people to snip the necks of the perfectly healthy babies. Several per day. Week after week after week, year after year, baby after baby after baby.

That means this man killed more children in a single month than all the school shootings in the history of America combined, and very few in the media say anything.

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#76513 Apr 17, 2013
Nuh_ wrote:
<quoted text>
The Senate has a Democrat majority.
But, not a Super Majority...which means they can't pass anything, per the Senate Rules, unless enough Republicans vote with the Democrats to bring the number up to 60 votes, for whatever it is.
The Senate only has 52 Democrats and 1 Independent who usually caucuses with the Democrats, so the Senate has to have , at least, 7 Republicans to vote with them, to pass anything.

Since: Feb 13

Guild

#76514 Apr 17, 2013
Overtaxed wrote:
<quoted text> Not in a body where 60 has become the new 51.
That's okay though....The Republicans will have the majority in the Senate again one day, and because I am a firm believer that you reap what you sow, the minority can bring their agenda to a halt as well.
Just last week both Republican senators from TN voted WITH Harry Reid to bring his gun control bill to the Senate for debate....that SOMEHOW is bringing Reid's "agenda to a halt"???

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#76515 Apr 17, 2013
Scarlett Pimple wrote:
The trail of the Boston Bomber has gone cold, since the Saudi guy didn’t turn out to be a terrorist. Since the bomb turned out to be a pressure cooker, the FBI is investigating the Food Channel.
http://thecable.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2013/...
So, the Campaigner in Chief, Barack Hussein Obama, is flying in to Boston. I just can’t get this outta my head:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =kGx94VPb8V8XX
That's NOT funny and you'd have to be a sick Individual to think it is. Sane Individuals do not think Dead and Maimed American Kids, and Adults, is funny!
I swear, sometimes I actually wonder what kind of Monsters we have posting on this Forum!

Since: Feb 13

Guild

#76516 Apr 17, 2013
SexySassySenior wrote:
<quoted text>
But, not a Super Majority...which means they can't pass anything, per the Senate Rules, unless enough Republicans vote with the Democrats to bring the number up to 60 votes, for whatever it is.
The Senate only has 52 Democrats and 1 Independent who usually caucuses with the Democrats, so the Senate has to have , at least, 7 Republicans to vote with them, to pass anything.
That's exactly how our government is designed to work.

When one party pushes through 'their agenda' it is a very dangerous thing...it happened with Bush and crew in the early 2000's and it happened again with Obama in his first two years. It is precisely why we have the onerous Obamacare.

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#76517 Apr 17, 2013
BREAKING NEWS: Secret Service: Suspicious Letter Mailed To Obama."

Click here:
http://news.yahoo.com/secret-suspicious-lette...
Hey

Cookeville, TN

#76518 Apr 17, 2013
Maybe Henry Ford had the answer to economic growth.
Ford claimed high wages was smart business.When wages are low there is uncertainty in the market place and growth is weak. But when pay is high and steady,Ford asserted,business is more secure because workers earn enough to become good customers.They can afford to buy Model Ts.
Germany's success seems instep with Ford's wisdom while American business and political leaders have dismantled the dynamics of virtuous circle in pursuit of downsizing,off shoring and short term profit and big dividends for there investors.
I appears to me that those in control are fine and doing well and that is what matters so why bother.Why would you bother.
I think things are how they want things to be because they are not that stupid and they are not that nice either.
When Captalists Cared.
http://nytimes.com/2012/09/03/opinion/henrt-f...
If our politicions cared to do anything concerning the folks they would have gone after the bankers.

Since: Feb 13

Location hidden

#76519 Apr 17, 2013
SexySassySenior wrote:
<quoted text>Hey, now you know I'm crazy about you...I just keep it well hidden! LMAO!
You have the crazy part right for sure.
Bayless

South Pittsburg, TN

#76520 Apr 17, 2013
SexySassySenior wrote:
BREAKING NEWS: Secret Service: Suspicious Letter Mailed To Obama."
Click here:
http://news.yahoo.com/secret-suspicious-lette...
Must be his birth certificate
Scarlett Pimple

Jamestown, TN

#76521 Apr 17, 2013
The liberal point of View:

Salon.com : Let’s hope the Boston Marathon bomber is a white American

http://www.salon.com/2013/04/16/lets_hope_the...

To be more correct, this should read: Let’s hope the Boston Marathon bomber is a right-wing white American
Hey

Cookeville, TN

#76522 Apr 17, 2013
Neither Party has the folks in mind or we would not be in the friggin mess we are in. Period.
With all that love for the people how does this exist in this Great Nation of ours?
And Pete they wouldn't do anything like this.
Vaderbilt University study of 829 pregnant women unkowingly fed radioactive iron.188 children given radioactive laced lemon aid.
Retarded boys.psychiatric patients,and infants injected with radioactive iodine.
In 1985 the Energy Dept.on purpose produced reactor meltdowns which released radiation across Idaho and beyond.
The Air Force involved in at least 8 meltdowns in Utah desert with 14 times the radiation as Three Mile Island in Pa.
Military dumped radiationfrom planes in wide areas around and downwind of Oak Ridge Tn.Los Alomos Nm and Utah between 1944 and 1961 kept secret fo 40 years.
Radiation bombs thrown from USAF planes
Pentagon 235 above ground nuke bomb tests and Hiroshima and Nagasaki not officially experiments but 250,000 to 500,000 Us miliary personell were contaminated during compusory participation in bomb tests.
A scientist who worked for the AEC said faced with War atomic weapons will probably be used so we should take no risks,
With the National Cancer Institute 1997 finding that all 160,000 million US citizens( in country at the time of bomb tests) were contaminated with fallout.
It is clear we did face war with Atomic Weapons.OUR OWN.
http://www.counterpunch.org ./2013/04/12/inhuman-radiation -experiments/
We wouldn't do anything like this.
Cancer epidemic anyone?
Overtaxed

Thorn Hill, TN

#76523 Apr 17, 2013
Nuh_ wrote:
<quoted text>
Just last week both Republican senators from TN voted WITH Harry Reid to bring his gun control bill to the Senate for debate....that SOMEHOW is bringing Reid's "agenda to a halt"???
Let me get this right....you think it should take 60 senators before a bill should be allowed to come to the floor for DEBATE ? A simple majority of Senators isn't enough to TALK about proposed legislation ? Give me a break.
Hey

Cookeville, TN

#76524 Apr 17, 2013
Nuh_ wrote:
The details emerging from Dr. Kermit Gosnell’s murder trial are so gruesome that, based on the descriptions, one would assume they are fictional scenes from a horror movie. However, the reality is that the court case, which continues to expose the details of the alleged murders of at least seven babies, is, according to witness testimony, anything but a concocted tale.
Back in January 2011, Gosnell was charged with eight murders and the Associated Press described him as a doctor who gave abortions to minorities, immigrants and poor women in a “house of horrors” clinic.”
Gosnell has reportedly earned millions of dollars over the span of 30 years, performing as many illegal, late-term abortions as he could, according to prosecutors.
For over two decades…Kermit Gosnell convinced people to snip the necks of the perfectly healthy babies. Several per day. Week after week after week, year after year, baby after baby after baby.
That means this man killed more children in a single month than all the school shootings in the history of America combined, and very few in the media say anything.
I read about this and this is horrendous.This guy appeared he enjoyed it.

Since: Feb 13

Guild

#76526 Apr 17, 2013
Overtaxed wrote:
<quoted text>Let me get this right....you think it should take 60 senators before a bill should be allowed to come to the floor for DEBATE ? A simple majority of Senators isn't enough to TALK about proposed legislation ? Give me a break.
No, not at all. I was just pointing out that the just last week the pubs voted WITH Reid. As far as voting to allow a bill to proceed - that is how the Senate rules work.
Overtaxed

Thorn Hill, TN

#76527 Apr 17, 2013
Hey wrote:
Maybe Henry Ford had the answer to economic growth.
Ford claimed high wages was smart business.When wages are low there is uncertainty in the market place and growth is weak. But when pay is high and steady,Ford asserted,business is more secure because workers earn enough to become good customers.They can afford to buy Model Ts.
Germany's success seems instep with Ford's wisdom while American business and political leaders have dismantled the dynamics of virtuous circle in pursuit of downsizing,off shoring and short term profit and big dividends for there investors.
I appears to me that those in control are fine and doing well and that is what matters so why bother.Why would you bother.
I think things are how they want things to be because they are not that stupid and they are not that nice either.
When Captalists Cared.
http://nytimes.com/2012/09/03/opinion/henrt-f...
If our politicions cared to do anything concerning the folks they would have gone after the bankers.
I think Ford was onto something "Hey". He thought those who worked on his lines should make enough to own one of his cars ! A novel approach in today's America. BUT Ford wasn't dealing with the globalists, unfair "free trade" agreements and the multi-nationals that couldn't care less about American workers.

Just a footnote on the banksters....I would love to see those who brought the economy crashing down, made to pay for their greed. BUT if the extent of the mess the banks were in in 2008 was disclosed to the public, the entire banking system would have collapsed like a house of cards and the taxpayers would have been on the hook for most of the FDIC insured deposits across the country. Instead, the politicians embarked on a plan to drive interest rates to zero, and to create a facade of solidity in the banking sector that did not really exist. This move stabilized the situation and probably halted a much worse economic outcome.

Since: Feb 13

Guild

#76528 Apr 17, 2013
The modern income tax, with the federal government drawing most of its money from payments by citizens, is relatively new.

The American Revolution, of course, began as a tax revolt. So when the Founders were drafting the Constitution, they were careful about assigning the power to tax. They didn’t want states, interests, or industries to use the national legislature to burden other states, interests, or industries unjustly. Therefore, the Constitution creates certain limitations on indirect taxes and direct taxes.

Indirect taxes were on goods including “duties, imports and excises.” They were expected to produce enough revenue to fund the national government’s normal operations. Direct taxes, those imposed directly on individuals, needed to be apportioned, or spread throughout the states based on population.

If an income tax is subject to apportionment, a state with one-tenth the national population, for example, has to bear one-tenth the aggregate tax liability, regardless of the state’s financial condition.

Congress did take a stab at an income tax during the Civil War, but that levy ended after the war did. When it tried again to pass a modern-style “progressive” income tax in the 1890s, the Supreme Court struck it down.

For almost 20 years it was accepted legal practice that an unapportioned income tax violated the Constitution.

That changed 100 years ago with the ratification of the 16th Amendment:“The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration.”

The bold change left Washington free to impose an income tax, and the tax burden has only grown in the decades since. Congress’s power to spend has soared to surpass its power to tax. If you’re grinding your teeth about your tax bill, blame the progressives and their slapdash constitutional reform.

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