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#74552 Apr 2, 2013
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<quoted text>Willard, when you speak of shooting down brandys and spraying bug spray in your face(huffing), you go on Auto-pilot! I'm not the one quoting from the Bible, I say what is coming from my heart.
That is the difference from you and I, you can only quote from your Bible, which is O.K., as you need this.
I can only say what is coming from my heart!
Now go wake up Carol, Mary Ann, Jamie and Co. and get them to work.
My answer is this - I'm glad you listen to your heart, but bear in mind ..the heart of man is wicked and deceitful, according to God:

Jeremiah 17:9
9 "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?"

Spiritual wisdom can only come from the word of God, not by trusting your heart - this is mysticism according to God:

Romans 10:17
17 "So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God."

These warnings are from the God you profess:

14 "Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."

15 "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."

Proverbs 14:
5 "Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?"

6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."

If we reject the living, resurrected son of God we are eternaly condemned.

John 3:

John 3:1-7
3 "There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:

2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.

4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?

5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again."

John 3:16-18
16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

17 For God (sent not) his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world (through him) might be saved.

18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."

This all sounds good, but it gets way better when you understand what sinners (like me) can be rescued from - the coming judgemnent upon the world and those who must remain in it to suffer the tribulation years as just reward for "rejecting" God's son, in whom he is well pleased! I ask all my friends to just consider, it's free.

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Dunlapian

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#74553 Apr 2, 2013
ORIGINAL WILLARD wrote:
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My answer is this - I'm glad you listen to your heart, but bear in mind ..the heart of man is wicked and deceitful, according to God:
Jeremiah 17:9
9 "The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?"
Spiritual wisdom can only come from the word of God, not by trusting your heart - this is mysticism according to God:
Romans 10:17
17 "So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God."
These warnings are from the God you profess:
14 "Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."
15 "Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves."
Proverbs 14:
5 "Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?"
6 "Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me."
If we reject the living, resurrected son of God we are eternaly condemned.
John 3:
John 3:1-7
3 "There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews:
2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.
3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again."
John 3:16-18
16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
17 For God (sent not) his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world (through him) might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God."
This all sounds good, but it gets way better when you understand what sinners (like me) can be rescued from - the coming judgemnent upon the world and those who must remain in it to suffer the tribulation years as just reward for "rejecting" God's son, in whom he is well pleased! I ask all my friends to just consider, it's free.
Ohh PLEASE, don't "thump" the Bible it's like "Krytonite" to me(but it's O.K. for you).......gotta go!
BTW, Call in Carol, Mary Ann, Jamie and Co. to judge me!

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#74554 Apr 2, 2013
Dunlapian wrote:
<quoted text>Ohh PLEASE, don't "thump" the Bible it's like "Krytonite" to me(but it's O.K. for you).......gotta go!
BTW, Call in Carol, Mary Ann, Jamie and Co. to judge me!
Ummm...would that be 'kryPtonite'? You do know how spelling incorrectly on Topix is a very bad thing indeed!!!

LOL

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#74555 Apr 2, 2013
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Ummm...would that be 'kryPtonite'? You do know how spelling incorrectly on Topix is a very bad thing indeed!!!
LOL
Not really, as "Willard" despises self-appointed spelling police.......but you can be my very own self-appointed spelling police any time. But then you will recieve the wrath of "Willards" endless thumping(be it on a Bible or Quran)it's all KryPtonite(thanks Nuh_) to me.
Overtaxed

Thorn Hill, TN

#74556 Apr 2, 2013
Since Bible quotes seem the order of the day, I will add one as well.
Corinthians 8:2 And if any man think he knoweth a thing, he knoweth nothing, yet he ought to know.

Since: Feb 13

Guild

#74557 Apr 2, 2013
Well...a man who knows what he knows - and knows what he doesn't know - is a man who truly knows.

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#74558 Apr 2, 2013
Overtaxed wrote:
Since Bible quotes seem the order of the day, I will add one as well.
Corinthians 8:2 And if any man think he knoweth a thing, he knoweth nothing, yet he ought to know.
Ya know OT, a very long time ago I walked through what remains of Corinth drinking Ouzo, and I can kind of understand what you are saying.
I think!

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#74559 Apr 2, 2013
Dunlapian wrote:
<quoted text>Ya know OT, a very long time ago I walked through what remains of Corinth drinking Ouzo, and I can kind of understand what you are saying.
I think!
Well, I was just giving "willard" something to chew on "Dunlapian".
In my opinion a group of Bible quotes will not help anyone find salvation. What MIGHT help is to see those who profess belief, living a life that exemplifies the teachings of Jesus Christ.
It is God who will judge the heart of man, not man....so it is not for me to judge the salvation of others. I have my own sins and shortcomings to atone for.

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#74561 Apr 2, 2013
Overtaxed wrote:
<quoted text> Well, I was just giving "willard" something to chew on "Dunlapian".
In my opinion a group of Bible quotes will not help anyone find salvation. What MIGHT help is to see those who profess belief, living a life that exemplifies the teachings of Jesus Christ.
It is God who will judge the heart of man, not man....so it is not for me to judge the salvation of others. I have my own sins and shortcomings to atone for.
OT, now even I can understand that!

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#74562 Apr 2, 2013
Overtaxed wrote:
<quoted text> Well, I was just giving "willard" something to chew on "Dunlapian".
In my opinion a group of Bible quotes will not help anyone find salvation. What MIGHT help is to see those who profess belief, living a life that exemplifies the teachings of Jesus Christ.
It is God who will judge the heart of man, not man....so it is not for me to judge the salvation of others. I have my own sins and shortcomings to atone for.
Offering others helpful understanding of scripture is not "judging others," That is what you are doing here by insisting that I am "judging," I am not. God calls upon those which are in the fullness of eternal forgiveness to share the gospel, and to have well-founded scriptural understanding by which to do so. If you are in disagreement here, you'll have to take that up with God himself.

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#74563 Apr 2, 2013
ORIGINAL WILLARD wrote:
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Offering others helpful understanding of scripture is not "judging others," That is what you are doing here by insisting that I am "judging," I am not. God calls upon those which are in the fullness of eternal forgiveness to share the gospel, and to have well-founded scriptural understanding by which to do so. If you are in disagreement here, you'll have to take that up with God himself.
Is a "good" judgement as sinful as a "bad" judgement?

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#74564 Apr 2, 2013
Overtaxed wrote:
<quoted text> Well, I was just giving "willard" something to chew on "Dunlapian".
In my opinion a group of Bible quotes will not help anyone find salvation. What MIGHT help is to see those who profess belief, living a life that exemplifies the teachings of Jesus Christ.
It is God who will judge the heart of man, not man....so it is not for me to judge the salvation of others. I have my own sins and shortcomings to atone for.
Actually, you've given me "nothing" to chew on! The admonition you've given your friend is contrary to Godly instruction. Sharing in delight the word of God is required. If it was of no value, as you muse, God would not have instructed to do so. Again, you'll have to take that up with him. God never "asked" you to "judge the heart of man," nor has he asked anyone else to do so. No one is judging here.

I'll say this, there are only two kinds of sinners in this world, saved sinners and sinners at risk of earning eternal separation and judgement from God. There's no such thing as a sinless life on earth. We're all sinners, in need of God and the redemptive love of Jesus. I'm no better than ANY other sinner, in EITHER camp..I simply choose to love him back, as much as it is possible for a sinner like me. I am a mere sinner willing to point the way to a soon coming rescue to as many as possible. God says every one of you are precious and worth it!

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Tired

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#74565 Apr 2, 2013
ORIGINAL WILLARD wrote:
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Offering others helpful understanding of scripture is not "judging others," That is what you are doing here by insisting that I am "judging," I am not. God calls upon those which are in the fullness of eternal forgiveness to share the gospel, and to have well-founded scriptural understanding by which to do so. If you are in disagreement here, you'll have to take that up with God himself.
I am not trying to be confrontational, but what do you mean by eternal forgiveness?

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#74566 Apr 2, 2013
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#74567 Apr 2, 2013
Tired wrote:
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I am not trying to be confrontational, but what do you mean by eternal forgiveness?
That's alright. Upon the willful self-submission to God in an act of repentance and thanksgiving for the sacrifice of Christ, any man, woman, boy or girl is "sealed" by God himself and declared enrolled into the Lamb's (Jesus') book of life, meaning that such a person is thereby granted eternal heirship with God's son in heaven. It is through God's forgiveness that sinners are made "righteous," not by anything sinners can do in the area of "works," personal achievement or being good people, but by receiving the righteousness of Christ and being in God's eternal forgiveness, residing in God's eternal heaven.

2nd Corinthians 1:
21 Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God;

22 Who hath also "sealed us", and given the earnest(a down payment) of the Spirit in our hearts.

John 10:
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.

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#74568 Apr 2, 2013
ORIGINAL WILLARD wrote:
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Offering others helpful understanding of scripture is not "judging others," That is what you are doing here by insisting that I am "judging," I am not. God calls upon those which are in the fullness of eternal forgiveness to share the gospel, and to have well-founded scriptural understanding by which to do so. If you are in disagreement here, you'll have to take that up with God himself.
Perhaps you should sit down with your little girlfriend, MississippiGurl, and discuss Scripture for a while.

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#74569 Apr 2, 2013
Can anyone hypothezize about what would happen to this country if all welfare ceased? No food stamps, no free birth control, no free healthcare, no free medicine?

If millions of people lost their food stamps, would the manufacturing industry have to cut jobs? For example, if fewer food products were sold and fewer food packaging products were needed, then wouldn't factories have massive layoffs? Would the agricultural industries suffer too?

Without free birth control, wouldn't we have more children to worry about? More kids translates to more money for education, more money for juvenile delinquency issues, more child abuse, more neglected, unloved, and hurting children.

No free healthcare and medicines? Would nurses start losing jobs? Would pharmacist and pharmacies suffer if a huge portion of the population stopped buying medication? Of course we might have a few people die off if they are too sick to work and can't afford to buy their medications.

Can somebody tell me how cutting out all welfare will improve this country? How will cutting out welfare create more jobs and help the economy?

And, does anybody have a suggestion on how I can help a welfare bum get a job? Let me know if any of you are willing to help her with the following obstacles:

No car - she'll need a ride to and from work. She lives in Pleasant Shade and can't walk.
No child care - she can only work Mon - Fri 7:45 - 3:00. She can't leave home until her kids get on the bus in the morning and she needs to be home when they get off in the afternoon.
No decent clothing - and her clothes dryer doesn't work either, so her clothes air dry and are a rumpled mess. Can anyone give her an iron and ironing board?
Poor hygiene - She'll need someone to teach her better hygiene. She was raised in a home where she was only allowed to bathe once a week and was sexually abused. Hygiene was never a top priority for her.
No skills - she got her GED, but she still struggles with using computers and newer technology.

She really wants to work, she hates skimming by on welfare. So, if any of you welfare haters are willing to help her, let me know.

Since: Mar 10

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#74570 Apr 2, 2013
ORIGINAL WILLARD wrote:
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Actually, you've given me "nothing" to chew on! The admonition you've given your friend is contrary to Godly instruction. Sharing in delight the word of God is required. If it was of no value, as you muse, God would not have instructed to do so. Again, you'll have to take that up with him. God never "asked" you to "judge the heart of man," nor has he asked anyone else to do so. No one is judging here.
I'll say this, there are only two kinds of sinners in this world, saved sinners and sinners at risk of earning eternal separation and judgement from God. There's no such thing as a sinless life on earth. We're all sinners, in need of God and the redemptive love of Jesus. I'm no better than ANY other sinner, in EITHER camp..I simply choose to love him back, as much as it is possible for a sinner like me. I am a mere sinner willing to point the way to a soon coming rescue to as many as possible. God says every one of you are precious and worth it!
Here's one for you to save...

[QUOTE who=”MississippiGurl”]
<quoted text>Hello Willard, good to see you posting. The b!tches, THINK they can tell me to shut up, and i`m gonna sit back and take it! I wish that c^nt breath poater named "unreal" would get in my face, and tell me to shut up! I`d knock the b!tches dentures down the c^nts throat![/QUOTE]

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#74571 Apr 2, 2013
ORIGINAL WILLARD wrote:
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That's alright. Upon the willful self-submission to God in an act of repentance and thanksgiving for the sacrifice of Christ, any man, woman, boy or girl is "sealed" by God himself and declared enrolled into the Lamb's (Jesus') book of life, meaning that such a person is thereby granted eternal heirship with God's son in heaven. It is through God's forgiveness that sinners are made "righteous," not by anything sinners can do in the area of "works," personal achievement or being good people, but by receiving the righteousness of Christ and being in God's eternal forgiveness, residing in God's eternal heaven.
2nd Corinthians 1:
21 Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God;
22 Who hath also "sealed us", and given the earnest(a down payment) of the Spirit in our hearts.
John 10:
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
I'm incredibly eager to watch you try to bring MississippiGurl to Jesus the next you're both on here at the same time.

I know you won't show yourself to be a hypocrite by avoiding your duty, wrapping yourself in Jesus, but then chumming around (to put it mildly) with the most vile of Earth's creatures.

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#74572 Apr 2, 2013
ORIGINAL WILLARD wrote:
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That's alright. Upon the willful self-submission to God in an act of repentance and thanksgiving for the sacrifice of Christ, any man, woman, boy or girl is "sealed" by God himself and declared enrolled into the Lamb's (Jesus') book of life, meaning that such a person is thereby granted eternal heirship with God's son in heaven. It is through God's forgiveness that sinners are made "righteous," not by anything sinners can do in the area of "works," personal achievement or being good people, but by receiving the righteousness of Christ and being in God's eternal forgiveness, residing in God's eternal heaven.
2nd Corinthians 1:
21 Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God;
22 Who hath also "sealed us", and given the earnest(a down payment) of the Spirit in our hearts.
John 10:
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.
29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
Are you saying once saved, always saved?

The doctrine of “once saved, always saved”(which says that a person cannot fall from grace), it is the case that in the exact language of false teachers, God has said that we are not saved by faith alone. James 2:24 is such a powerful passage that discusses true faith versus a faith that will not save. Notice what James said:“You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.”

God mentions “faith only” one time, and there He says that a person is not justified by faith alone! The concept of being “justified” means “just as if I had never sinned.” But a person is not forgiv­en, is not a child of God, and is not redeemed at the point of faith alone! So while such a con­cept may be popular, and while many may agree that it is a comforting doctrine, the Bible does not teach that faith alone will save a person.

Saul is an example of a man who believed in Jesus, and who even prayed, but he was not saved at that point. He was not saved until he obeyed God’s will concerning baptism, and thus had his sins washed away.

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