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OT - we simply will have to disagree to disagree. LOL

We are so far in debt our grandchildren's grandchildren won't be able to pay it off. More government spending - which when it's all boiled down is OUR money taken from us for those fiddlers in Washington to waste - is not the answer.

The government continually pumping money in (and printing more to do so) has not done a dang thing. Eventually, inflation IS going to take root - and THAT is when the real (not imagined by some arbritary 'sequester') hurting begins.

I like your analysis and thoughts - I just happen to disagree with your results. But, it's a somewhat free country still, so that's OK.
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Feb 28, 2013
 
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On Wednesday, a House subcommittee will hear a bill that would allow the manufacture of liquor, such as Chattanooga Whiskey, in parts of Hamilton County that already allow operating liquor stores and liquor-by-the-drink sales.
A little more than a year ago, Joe Ledbetter and Tim Piersant founded the Chattanooga Whiskey Company.
Their product is sold in more than a dozen states, and the product has drawn strong local support that area residents voice, in part, via social media, according to Nooga.com archives.
But—even though the product bears a local name—it must be produced in Lawrenceburg, Ind., because it's currently illegal to make it in Hamilton County.
A 2009 law allows Tennessee counties where there are both operating liquor stores and liquor-by-the-drink sales to produce liquor.
And although Hamilton County meets both those requirements, at the time state leaders passed the law, officials decided to opt out and continue to prevent liquor manufacture in this area.
http://www.nooga.com/160257/bill-that-impacts...
Well Nuh, it looks like it will be kicked back until March 6. Ole' Smokey Mountain Distillery is blocking it for a week. I'm sure during this wait, there will be some palms greased, at the expense of Chattanooga.
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Feb 28, 2013
 
Nuh_ wrote:
OT - we simply will have to disagree to disagree. LOL
We are so far in debt our grandchildren's grandchildren won't be able to pay it off. More government spending - which when it's all boiled down is OUR money taken from us for those fiddlers in Washington to waste - is not the answer.
The government continually pumping money in (and printing more to do so) has not done a dang thing. Eventually, inflation IS going to take root - and THAT is when the real (not imagined by some arbritary 'sequester') hurting begins.
I like your analysis and thoughts - I just happen to disagree with your results. But, it's a somewhat free country still, so that's OK.
No problem on that "Nuh" ! I respect those with differing opinions, carefully presented, and that is exactly why I spend some time here...trying to understand where THOSE posters are coming from. Occasionally I actually learn something, old dog or not. I suspect that those who will lose their job as a result of the sequester do not view their paycheck as wasted money, though...
I hope you are right and I am wrong about sequester "Nuh", and I confess to being wrong on occasion Chuckles !
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Feb 28, 2013
 
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You - of all people - actually post that I "think I know it all"?!??!? And proceed to "tell" me and other "Teapublicans" the truth???
For one...the sequester will NOT cause the world to end. It's NOT CUTTING anything and is being utilized by The Bolshevik as a political tool...that's it.
Remember when we were told in late 2008 that if we didn't do TARP and spend $800 Billion that the world economy would collapse??? Well, to date,$200 Billion of that money HAS NOT BEEN SPENT. So, did the world economy collapse??? Or were we just sold a bill of goods by a bunch of politicians from both parties?
Oh, and secondly, I didn't just 'wake up' and realize there was a Federal Government...I spilled my blood and a whole lot of blood of the enemies of that government - perhaps you'll enlighten me with your ominpotence and...of course, your vast experience in that arena as well.
Who told you the sequester will cause the world to end?
I know many in my poor county that will lose their job, if it goes through(and most of them are Republicans). That will have a very large ripple effect in this poor county. At this point, I'm not sure just who else will get the axe.
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Truth Detector wrote:
Jay Leno, the only guy with balls in television. Last night:
"President Obama said this week after four years as president,'you realize all the mistakes you made."
"So apparently he does watch Fox News. Yeah, I guess he does. Yeah, because they keep pointing them out."
Fox News Motto;
"We deceive so you believe".

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Feb 28, 2013
 
I really do wish Obama good health. If anything were to happen to him...we get Joe Biden.

Joe Biden Has More Gun Advice:‘Just Fire the Shotgun Through the Door’

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/27/jo...

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#69419
Feb 28, 2013
 
Dunlapian wrote:
<quoted text>Well Nuh, it looks like it will be kicked back until March 6. Ole' Smokey Mountain Distillery is blocking it for a week. I'm sure during this wait, there will be some palms greased, at the expense of Chattanooga.
Yep. Heard that on the radio. Stinks too! I don't even drink whiskey - but think that this would provide jobs. I do, however, feel that eventually they will get the go ahead.
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Dunlapian wrote:
<quoted text>Who told you the sequester will cause the world to end?
I know many in my poor county that will lose their job, if it goes through(and most of them are Republicans). That will have a very large ripple effect in this poor county. At this point, I'm not sure just who else will get the axe.
There we get the second cut from the double edged sword of Federal budget cuts. Those jobs are the first cut, with the loss of dollars spent by those folks in the local economy. Then County Government has to figure out where they will find the dollars to replace those which flow to them from the Fed. They can't run deficits, so there will have to be tax increases and we trade dollars garnered by progressive income taxes for those from regressive land and sales taxes. This hurts Main Street as well...Ditto for State Government...Every cut has ripples, and with enough cuts ripples, become waves.
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Nuh_ wrote:
I really do wish Obama good health. If anything were to happen to him...we get Joe Biden.
Joe Biden Has More Gun Advice:‘Just Fire the Shotgun Through the Door’
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/27/jo...
AHHH I sympathise with you ! I tried to remember to pray for good health for "W" every night...
BTW, Joe seems like such a wimp with that advice, Dick would have just shot em in the face...in fact.... Chuckles !!

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Feb 28, 2013
 
Overtaxed wrote:
<quoted text> There we get the second cut from the double edged sword of Federal budget cuts. Those jobs are the first cut, with the loss of dollars spent by those folks in the local economy. Then County Government has to figure out where they will find the dollars to replace those which flow to them from the Fed. They can't run deficits, so there will have to be tax increases and we trade dollars garnered by progressive income taxes for those from regressive land and sales taxes. This hurts Main Street as well...Ditto for State Government...Every cut has ripples, and with enough cuts ripples, become waves.
The state & local govt's can't run deficits due to the requirement of a balanced budget. Too bad the federal government isn't required to live within its means too.

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#69423
Feb 28, 2013
 
First...the politicians are exempt from the more strict NY gun laws...now - some other, elite citizens are:

Gov. Cuomo says Hollywood exempt from strict New York gun control law
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Feb 28, 2013
 
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The state & local govt's can't run deficits due to the requirement of a balanced budget. Too bad the federal government isn't required to live within its means too.
The Federal Government's most important task is to keep this country safe. In the midst of the recent downturn, when tax revenues had collapsed, where would the Fed get the money to fight an attack against our country without the ability to spend borrowed dollars ?
When the economy nosedived during the Great Depression, and there was a trickle of tax dollars for 10 years, how would the Government have mobilized the equipment and the military to fight a two front war in Europe and South East Asia if they had been constrained by a balanced budget requirement ?

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Overtaxed wrote:
<quoted text>AHHH I sympathise with you ! I tried to remember to pray for good health for "W" every night...
BTW, Joe seems like such a wimp with that advice, Dick would have just shot em in the face...in fact.... Chuckles !!
You Ms Lady(Chuckels), are such an idiot I refuse to ever read anything else you post. Let the past go you damn old fool. In case you haven't notice Obama is responsible for the situation America is in today not Bush/Cheney. It's because of old fools like you that our economy is in ruins and our country is being over run by criminals from other nations as we become a socialist ran government. You are a shame to everyone who has ever served his or her country.

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Feb 28, 2013
 
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<quoted text> The Federal Government's most important task is to keep this country safe. In the midst of the recent downturn, when tax revenues had collapsed, where would the Fed get the money to fight an attack against our country without the ability to spend borrowed dollars ?
When the economy nosedived during the Great Depression, and there was a trickle of tax dollars for 10 years, how would the Government have mobilized the equipment and the military to fight a two front war in Europe and South East Asia if they had been constrained by a balanced budget requirement ?
Oh that's easy (if one believes that pinheads in Washington could actually do it)- Congress enacts a law that is then signed by the President suspending the BB requirement to deal with such catasrophies if/when they occur with an expiration date to boot. At that time it is revisited to see if it is still required - or if conditions warrant it expiring.

A balanced budget is good - ask Bill Clinton

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Wow. After $787 Billion spent on a stimulus and a myriad of more government spending....

U.S. economy grew 0.1% in fourth quarter

Keynesian economics really does the job!

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-economy-g...
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Dunlapian wrote:
<quoted text>Who told you the sequester will cause the world to end?
I know many in my poor county that will lose their job, if it goes through(and most of them are Republicans). That will have a very large ripple effect in this poor county. At this point, I'm not sure just who else will get the axe.
Can someone please explain to me how a 2% cut in the expected 10% increase will cause this?

Specifics, please?
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Overtaxed wrote:
<quoted text> The Federal Government's most important task is to keep this country safe. In the midst of the recent downturn, when tax revenues had collapsed, where would the Fed get the money to fight an attack against our country without the ability to spend borrowed dollars ?
When the economy nosedived during the Great Depression, and there was a trickle of tax dollars for 10 years, how would the Government have mobilized the equipment and the military to fight a two front war in Europe and South East Asia if they had been constrained by a balanced budget requirement ?
Your beloved Keynes suggested deficit spending to stimulate things. But he was also against long term debt.

Our current debt is not long term. It's permanent. There is no way that it will ever be paid, even if the economy comes back roaring.

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You Ms Lady(Chuckels), are such an idiot I refuse to ever read anything else you post. Let the past go you damn old fool. In case you haven't notice Obama is responsible for the situation America is in today not Bush/Cheney. It's because of old fools like you that our economy is in ruins and our country is being over run by criminals from other nations as we become a socialist ran government. You are a shame to everyone who has ever served his or her country.
That's all...
Thats all bullshit! That's all...

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Joe Biden is off for yet another anti second amendment propaganda at Western Connecticut State University. Here is a quick picture of what they think of the American flag as they prepare for Biden’s propaganda:

http://www.fireandreamitchell.com/2013/02/27/...
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Really Sassy wrote:
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You Ms Lady(Chuckels), are such an idiot I refuse to ever read anything else you post. Let the past go you damn old fool. In case you haven't notice Obama is responsible for the situation America is in today not Bush/Cheney. It's because of old fools like you that our economy is in ruins and our country is being over run by criminals from other nations as we become a socialist ran government. You are a shame to everyone who has ever served his or her country.
That's all...
........and please don't read mine!

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