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#68767
Feb 22, 2013
 
Dunlapian wrote:
<quoted text>Well allow me to set you straight!
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/the-obama-ph...
I got a small chuckle when I read the part about me being " set straight " . " Don`t be offended when I say I really don`t give a flying rip ! I soon realized I messed up when I started down this rabbit trail into the weeds. To be honest the turd who asked the question was really being a smart ass. I admit I have on occasion used the term " obama phone " and now that I know the truth I might not use the term again but then again.
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Really Sassy wrote:
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You can object but your objection is lost underneath the name calling. I was prepared to read your rebuttal up to the name calling of the other party. So close yet so far sweet lady. Is it just not in your character to object to someone's opinion without attempting to belittle them? There are better ways I promise you. Why don't you make a point today of avoiding any response filled with sarcastic remarks?
but, but, but.... I thought you were opposed to telling posters what to post...

I guess that is only when it goes against your posts?
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Feb 22, 2013
 
TJohn wrote:
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I got a small chuckle when I read the part about me being " set straight " . " Don`t be offended when I say I really don`t give a flying rip ! I soon realized I messed up when I started down this rabbit trail into the weeds. To be honest the turd who asked the question was really being a smart ass. I admit I have on occasion used the term " obama phone " and now that I know the truth I might not use the term again but then again.
Yeah, watch that rabbit trail!
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Feb 22, 2013
 

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SexySassySenior wrote:
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Why do you blame the "Dem/Libs" for this? Where were you when George W. Bush and the Republican-Controlled Congress voted in a change to the "Emminent Domain" Law, so they could take your Property for any Corporation or Company that would pay more Taxes on it, than you do and there's not a thing you can do about it? Where were you then? Where were you in 2011, when Boehner bragged about getting the Sequestration Option from Obama in exchange for agreeing not to send the Country into Default? Where were you then? Where are you now, that the Teapublicans are willing to let the Country go back into a major Economic downfall, again, just to protect the Wealthiest from paying more than a 14% Tax Rate and/or close the Tax Loopholes that enable them to pay zero taxes, instead of paying the 28 to 32% that you pay, or are willing to let THEIR Sequestration that Boehner bragged about getting agreed to, that will surely almost destroy YOU and just about everybody else , as well as this economy? WHERE WERE YOU THEN AND WHERE ARE YOU NOW???
I can PROVE what I'm accusing Boehner/Teapublicans of, can you prove what you're blaming the Dems/Libs of???
Here you go shooting off without facts:

Congress did not vote in a change to the ""Emminent Domain" Law,"
2005---SUpreme Court Ruled in favor of a developer in NewJersey.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelo_v._City_of_...

June 23, 2006, G. Bush issued executive order limiting the amount and type of land that could be seized. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminent_domain

Obama put in the Sequester we are now going through. Do you think that everybody should just let you spend and spend and spend with out them saying anything. Obama is a failure so far.

Lets see, Obama just got that 14% on the Rich and now he wants more. Try to keep up.

Congress has passed two bills, held up by dirty harry, that would make necessary cuts, to get rid of the sequester and close loopholes among other things. Boy, Your brain washed bad.

Oh, the obama's buddies can pay no taxes but if they are a considered a republican business, they have to pay it all back. Lets, see, there General Electric, Apple, and Now, facebook that does not pay any (ZERO taxes)

How many are tea party people are there in congress (15-20??? out of 400+...

I have come to the conclusion that most (not all) the people the write in the thread are either related, have been related, are friends, or live within the same neighbor hood. Why? because all you do is fuss and fight, call each other names, and then tell each other stories about the big bad teapublicans that will take you house away, burn you babies, kill your dogs, put in a dungeon, starve you, take away your welfare, food stamps and ....and........ God help you cause I can't

Sometimes its better to turn away from a lost cause than try and correct it and lose.
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#68771
Feb 22, 2013
 
Dunlapian wrote:
<quoted text>So why is it called an Obama phone?
WHy do you blame everything on BUsh,, turn about is fair play....LOL
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TJohn wrote:
<quoted text>If true then you blew two urban myths out of the water. One the " obamo phone " myth and the other the " republicans only wanna help rich people " urban myth.
Just for the record the phones are not " free " because someone down the road has to pay for them. Somehow I believe taxpayers flip the bill for some if not most of the bill. I`m funny that way.
It isn't free. The rest of us pay a fee on our phone bills to help cover the cost. But technically... it isn't a tax.
The creation of the Lifeline program -- which has now been dubbed the "Obama phone" -- during the Reagan administration was one of these attempts to ensure that the new fragmented and competitive telecom industry still provided the same public goods that the old monopoly did.
Far from a government cheese handout, Lifeline was funded through a "universal service charge" on phone bills, and then administered by a private non-profit. While the distinction between a surcharge and a tax may seem technical, it was specifically selected to over a proposed welfare program — a straight-up handout referred to as "phone stamps." The Universal Service Fund was created to be a lean, nimble private sector beast.
The guys who came up with the idea for Lifeline were Republican Sen. Bob Packwood and Democratic Rep. John Dingell. The Reagan administration soon got on board, as The New York Times reported on December 27, 1983, in part because of "a growing recognition that the price of telephone service could become a 1984 campaign issue." Then other Republicans got on board -- Sens. John Heinz and John Chafee urged the Federal Communications Commission to "take concrete steps to ensure that local telephone companies offer lifeline programs designed to preserve affordable phone service," according to The Washington Post on September 15, 1985.
http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2012/...
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TJohn wrote:
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One women recently on the news this week gets approx.$80,000 per year while sitting at home with two kids.
I also saw this report and it stated the woman was studying to be a nurse and one child was in daycare and the other in pre-school with that be the bulk of the assistance but the total wasn`t 80 k but it could be as high as 80 k with other programs available to her. I agree with helping people esp those who are trying to help themselves but the problem is we don`t have the money and 80 k is alot when you consider the amount of people who can get it. I wish I had enough money to help everybody out of poverty but I don`t and if tried I would soon be with em. I see us all in the ditch and my question is who will help America when that time comes and it`s coming.
Other then that the rest of your post is pretty spot on.
thanks for the adjustment
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#68774
Feb 22, 2013
 
WILLARD wrote:
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You need to watch this video, it explains the Obama-phone giveaway!
CLICK TO WATCH VIDEO: http://bit.ly/P2EwQO
lets see if I have a food card, I get a phone and 100 minutes.
FOR FREE.

Good link! Willard
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#68775
Feb 22, 2013
 
Honestly wrote:
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WHy do you blame everything on BUsh,, turn about is fair play....LOL
Did you open the link, and actually read it?

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Cornbread wrote:
So why is it called an Obama phone?
All because one Black woman was caught on video at a rally, saying something like "I Love my Obama phone."
There is one problem with the Obama Phone: It doesn’t exist. Obama didn't start the program .
Since 2009 there has been an urban myth that Obama created a program to provide free phones to low-income Americans at taxpayer expense.
There is, in fact, a government program that will provide low-income people with a free or low cost cell phone. This policy started with land line phones first, since cell phones weren't around. It began in the 1980's.
The idea of providing low-income individuals with subsidized phone service was originated in the Reagan administration following the break-up of AT&T in 1984.(It was expanded and formalized by the Telecommunications Act of 1996.) The program is paid for by telecommunications companies through an independent non-profit, not through tax revenue.
Cornbread, you are exactly right and it tells you that in the fine print on the advertisements for the phones, if anybody would bother to read it!
If I were truly as worried about it and as resentful of them as so many claim to be, I would read the fine print to try and find out if it really was costing me anything...unless , of course, I just wanted to blame Obama for something that was started by Reagan and carried over by every President since then.
Also People, look at your phone bill...you've been paying that Universal Service charge since long before Reagan started the program and if it's gone up, I haven't noticed it and I do look at my bill!
Also, you cannot get called for a job if you don't have a phone where you can be reached and anywhere they you apply will tell you flat out, that they will disregard your application and not accept it , without a phone number where you can be reached. A phone is not a luxury, it is a necessity!
Oh, allow me to correct myself...the Universal Service Charge has
gone up...to $1.03, it used to be a dollar even...it's gone up 3 cents! C'mon People, how petty can you get?
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crazya55whiteboy wrote:
Its crazy how people turn against each other just cuz one has more money than the other, gives them a sense of feeling more higher up than the rest of people,and how greed can create such chaos when those people start wanting to make even more,(ceos and politicians and corps) while paying workers less, the republican party is trying to kill the middle class especially when single parents are living below poverty line while working full time jobs and wanting to strip social security and food stamps and any other benefit that helps those less fortunate instead of raising taxes on the extremely wealthy. i find that greed the kinda thing that creates most most of our problems here in the United States. we need a new increase in the minimum wage and it does not effect the jobs numbers in doing so it actually helps because people dont want to work all day and only bring home $280 a week and thats not enough to raise kids on and save money back its impossible. i voted democrat Mike Mcwherter and every other democrat that will run because republicans are racist and corrupt inside and out.
It obvious you don't want to work either!. Guess when the minimum wage goes up, you can be the one laid off from work. You would be papy will pay everyone elses pay hike. Thank the Dem/libs for your lose. The conservatives, want you to work for a living. we'll help those who cannot work but you need to prove that you cannot work. Not handing out nothing to a bum that don't want to work.

OH, Why can you not raise two kids on $7/hr. When I started, I was lucky if I got, 2.25/hr. I survived, might I add without welfare.
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#68778
Feb 22, 2013
 
Unreal wrote:
The Obama Phone?
Posted on October 29, 2009 , Updated on Nov. 5, 2009
Q: Has the Obama administration started a program to use "taxpayer money" to give free cell phones to welfare recipients?
A: No. Low-income households have been eligible for discounted telephone service for more than a decade. But the program is funded by telecom companies, not by taxes, and the president has nothing to do with it.
FULL QUESTION
Is this e-mail true?
I had a former employee call me earlier today inquiring about a job, and at the end of the conversation he gave me his phone number. I asked the former employee if this was a new cell phone number and he told me yes this was his "Obama phone."
&#11024; Click to expand/collapse the full text &#11023;
FULL ANSWER
Welfare recipients, and others, can receive a free cell phone, but the program is not funded by the government or taxpayer money, as the e-mail alleges. And it’s hardly new.
How It Works
SafeLink Wireless, the program mentioned in the e-mail, does indeed offer a cell phone, about one hour’s worth of calling time per month, and other wireless services like voice mail to eligible low-income households. Applicants have to apply and prove that they are either receiving certain types of government benefits, such as Medicaid, or have household incomes at or below 135 percent of the poverty line. Using 2009 poverty guidelines, that’s $14,620 for an individual and a little under $30,000 for a family of four, with slightly higher amounts for Alaska and Hawaii.
SafeLink is run by a subsidiary of América Móvil, the world’s fourth largest wireless company in terms of subscribers, but it is not paid for directly by the company. Nor is it paid for with "tax payer money," as the e-mail claims. Rather, it is funded through the Universal Service Fund, which is administered by the Universal Service Administrative Company, an independent, not-for-profit corporation set up by the Federal Communications Commission. The USF is sustained by contributions from telecommunications companies such as "long distance companies, local telephone companies, wireless telephone companies, paging companies, and payphone providers." The companies often charge customers to fund their contributions in the form of a universal service fee you might see on your monthly phone bill. The fund is then parceled out to companies, such as América Móvil, that create programs, such as SafeLink, to provide telecommunications service to rural areas and low-income households.
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The president has no direct impact on the program, and one could hardly call these devices "Obama Phones," as the e-mail author does. This specific program, SafeLink, started under President George Bush, with grants from an independent company created under President Bill Clinton, which was a legacy of an act passed under President Franklin Roosevelt, which was influenced by an agreement reached between telecommunications companies and the administration of President Woodrow Wilson.
Wilson Phones, anyone?
Read more:
http://www.factcheck.org/2009/10/the-obama-ph...
read this before you get your panties in a wade! http://bit.ly/P2EwQO
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#68779
Feb 22, 2013
 
Deficit Reduction: From Pain or from Gain?



By Robert Borosage


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The best way to reduce the deficit is to put people back to work.

For proof, compare the U.S. and Spain. The U.S. has witnessed slow growth since coming out of the Great Recession in 2009. The result has been a deficit that has come down from over 10 percent of gross domestic product to a projected 5.3 percent of GDP this year (slightly higher if Congress is sensible enough to repeal the sequester) and a projected 2.4 percent in 2015 (if congressional austerity bombs don’t blow up the weak recovery).

Spain was forced into austerity; as part of the Euro zone, it has no control over its currency. Harsh spending cuts and tax hikes have driven the economy back into recession, thrown workers out of work and slashed basic security supports. The result: The deficit has declined from 10.2 percent of GDP to 6.7 percent, but is projected to increase to 7.2 percent GDP next year as the unemployment rises, tax revenues fall and the expenses of even a pared-back unemployment system rise.

Austerity costs jobs, cripples growth — and makes deficit reduction harder, not easier.

So why — oh why — is there bipartisan agreement that we should focus on deficit reduction rather than jobs and growth? Why isn’t Congress repealing the sequester cuts that all agree are dumb? Why are Democrats arguing about how to pay for postponing the sequester until December rather than just moving to repeal the idiocy and stop manufacturing new crises?

The deficit is coming down faster than at any time since the demobilization after World War II. This is a bad thing, not a good thing. It is hindering the recovery, slowing growth and costing jobs. That is the unspeakable truth about today’s reality. We do have a deficit crisis — it is too small, not too big, and it is falling too fast, not growing out of control.
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Honestly wrote:
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read this before you get your panties in a wade! http://bit.ly/P2EwQO
I don't know how I would "read" a video, but I have already watched it. My panties weren't in a "wad" - it just sounded like some people might need some facts as to the actual creation of this program interjected into the conversation.
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Dunlapian wrote:
<quoted text>Did you open the link, and actually read it?
evidently you did not, because it was a video.

Get real
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Robert Borosage wrote:
Deficit Reduction: From Pain or from Gain?
By Robert Borosage
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The best way to reduce the deficit is to put people back to work.
For proof, compare the U.S. and Spain. The U.S. has witnessed slow growth since coming out of the Great Recession in 2009. The result has been a deficit that has come down from over 10 percent of gross domestic product to a projected 5.3 percent of GDP this year (slightly higher if Congress is sensible enough to repeal the sequester) and a projected 2.4 percent in 2015 (if congressional austerity bombs don’t blow up the weak recovery).
Spain was forced into austerity; as part of the Euro zone, it has no control over its currency. Harsh spending cuts and tax hikes have driven the economy back into recession, thrown workers out of work and slashed basic security supports. The result: The deficit has declined from 10.2 percent of GDP to 6.7 percent, but is projected to increase to 7.2 percent GDP next year as the unemployment rises, tax revenues fall and the expenses of even a pared-back unemployment system rise.
Austerity costs jobs, cripples growth — and makes deficit reduction harder, not easier.
So why — oh why — is there bipartisan agreement that we should focus on deficit reduction rather than jobs and growth? Why isn’t Congress repealing the sequester cuts that all agree are dumb? Why are Democrats arguing about how to pay for postponing the sequester until December rather than just moving to repeal the idiocy and stop manufacturing new crises?
The deficit is coming down faster than at any time since the demobilization after World War II. This is a bad thing, not a good thing. It is hindering the recovery, slowing growth and costing jobs. That is the unspeakable truth about today’s reality. We do have a deficit crisis — it is too small, not too big, and it is falling too fast, not growing out of control.
Like to see where this info came from.
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Feb 22, 2013
 
Unreal wrote:
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I don't know how I would "read" a video, but I have already watched it. My panties weren't in a "wad" - it just sounded like some people might need some facts as to the actual creation of this program interjected into the conversation.
sorry was not talking to you but to some of those other yo yos out there. Yeah, it was a video LOL hard to read up on that.

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Honestly wrote:
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WHy do you blame everything on BUsh,, turn about is fair play....LOL
What is being blamed on Bush, is exactly who caused it and did it, it's not made up...nor false blame! You can choose to remain in denial about that, but it does not change the facts and they can be easily verified, if you really wanted to know the truth!
Most of what you blame Obama for is FALSE BLAME and I think you know it!
Put the Blame where it rightfully belongs, no matter who it is and STOP making stuff up, just because you don't like Obama! It serves no useful purpose, whatsoever!
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SexySassySenior wrote:
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Cornbread, you are exactly right and it tells you that in the fine print on the advertisements for the phones, if anybody would bother to read it!
If I were truly as worried about it and as resentful of them as so many claim to be, I would read the fine print to try and find out if it really was costing me anything...unless , of course, I just wanted to blame Obama for something that was started by Reagan and carried over by every President since then.
Also People, look at your phone bill...you've been paying that Universal Service charge since long before Reagan started the program and if it's gone up, I haven't noticed it and I do look at my bill!
Also, you cannot get called for a job if you don't have a phone where you can be reached and anywhere they you apply will tell you flat out, that they will disregard your application and not accept it , without a phone number where you can be reached. A phone is not a luxury, it is a necessity!
Oh, allow me to correct myself...the Universal Service Charge has
gone up...to $1.03, it used to be a dollar even...it's gone up 3 cents! C'mon People, how petty can you get?
Linda, FYI on a "land line" or "cell phone" that is disconnected you can still call 911. This is a safety feature and I'm not sure who pay's for it.
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Honestly wrote:
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evidently you did not, because it was a video.
Get real
Who are you replying to? The link I put up was to a site.....not a video!

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