Since: Oct 11

Location hidden

#65507 Feb 8, 2013
Overtaxed wrote:
<quoted text> Thanks !
You're Welcome...anytime, my Friend!:)
Hey in Grey

Cookeville, TN

#65508 Feb 8, 2013
Honestly wrote:
<quoted text>
And I assume you pres. Obama is going to stop all of this. Oh, it is congresses fault that he don't. You people cannot see past you own lies long enough to even think there might be another reason out there somewhere.
I do not believe anyone in DC will fix anything.
I have more faith in the Easter Bunny.
lol

Jackson, TN

#65509 Feb 8, 2013
Overtaxed wrote:
<quoted text> I know it's hard for you to keep up...poor thing....but you just chewed up your buddy, and I find that funny...Remember what I told you about breathing ? Well you just proved my point !
If you say so fucktard.I know your family must be proud of such a waste of air,prick

Since: Oct 11

Location hidden

#65510 Feb 8, 2013
Truth Detector wrote:
From the government bureau of common sense:
I have a friend who is a rural carrier for the United States Post Office. She has been in meetings over the new rules about eliminating Saturday deliveries.
They will still deliver packages, which means that the carriers will still be working on Saturdays. Thatís a savings?
If they deliver to a house, and the red flag is up indicating mail to be picked up, they must leave it there until Monday. That makes sense?
I believe the article said that it's ONLY 1st class mail, that won't be delivered on Saturday. 2nd, and 3rd Class mail will be, which is basically what your friend was saying, too.

We'll get the Junk Mail and not the Important Stuff! Lol! Actuall, it's been that way at my House for awhile. I don't get much on saturday and all of it is worthless...but on Monday, look out! Lots of it and most of it is important!

Since: Oct 11

Location hidden

#65511 Feb 8, 2013
Hey in Grey wrote:
<quoted text>
I do not believe anyone in DC will fix anything.
I have more faith in the Easter Bunny.
I don't think the People in DC are doing it. I think that the People in DC just make it "possible"...sometim es...for the People of this Country to do what they've always done, which is roll up their sleeves and find a way to save themselves and this Nation, and usually make it better than it was before, by the time they get finished and rest. It's the American Way!
Hey in Grey

Cookeville, TN

#65512 Feb 8, 2013
Honestly wrote:
<quoted text>
And I assume you pres. Obama is going to stop all of this. Oh, it is congresses fault that he don't. You people cannot see past you own lies long enough to even think there might be another reason out there somewhere.
Where have you been?I'm not an Obama Fan.
Your just mad cause Cookeville has a TJ Max and Sparta doesn't.
Pete

Nashville, TN

#65513 Feb 8, 2013
Dunlapian wrote:
<quoted text>Pete, in America you have the right to believe in anything you want. But when we deal with facts its a little different. You see FICA is a "PAYROLL TAX", this is a fact, no matter how you might want to spin it.
Now you say benefits paid out are capped,(I have no reason to not believe you). I'm saying FICA is capped at about $110,000-$112,000 by law, and this would make it a legal loophole. So once you reach this limit you pay no more "PAYROLL TAXES" to FICA, and your earnings skyrocket.
You asked for one tax loophole for the rich......and you got it.
FICA stands for Federal Insurance Contributions Act. This is the means by which an employer collects social security. It is a retirement plan. That was how it was passed and that is how it is administered. FICA is social security. Those are the facts. Social security benefits are capped. Therefore, payments to this plan are capped. I am an employer. Payroll taxes consist of a whole lot more than FICA. Payroll taxes incorporate FUTA, SUTA, Federal Income Tax Withholding, Medicare, etc. However, these taxes are simply the means for government to collect income tax, medicare and social security. The income tax portion of this does not ever get paid back to the employee. This is a true tax. Social Security gets paid back in the form of benefits. Medicare gets paid back in the form of health services. These are by definition not a tax. Whether you know it or not, the employer also pays portions of the employees' social security and medicare. The employer is who is taxed. The employer simply collects these funds from the employee. Regarding Social Security, if the benefit it can pay out is capped, then the payments into it have to be capped. If not, then social security would turn into yet another tax not yet enacted. It is a simple retirement plan. Would you pay let's say $50,000 into a retirement plan knowing you would only get back $30,000? Of course not.

This cap was put into effect so that some people would not have to fund the retirement of others. Check it out yourself. I deal with FICA every day and know exactly how it works. What it is not is a tax loophole for the rich.
Pete

Nashville, TN

#65514 Feb 8, 2013
Overtaxed wrote:
<quoted text> Well, "Pete" I gave you the Congressional Budget Office figure, but even if I use the figure in the site you provided, which apparently includes interest on U.S. Savings Bonds and something called State and Local Government SLG's what ever they are... the total is a LONG LONG way from half of every tax dollar collected. In fact using your figure it wouldn't make 10% of every dollar....
Your second site says that U.S. Govt. debt held by foreign governments is 4.5 trillion...with the national debt standing at almost 17 trillion, and foreign govt. debt held at 4.5 trillion....my math has that holding at less than a FOURTH...not half.
What did I post that wasn't true ??
Did you not see the information regarding who owns our debt? It clearly states 46% of our debt is foreign owned. And that was back in 2011.

Let's take the information on the sites for 2011 and do the math then. Tax revenues from individuals were $1.8 Billion in 2011. However, half of that is ear-marked for social security. It is not supposed to be spent, even though we know better. That means $.9 billion is what is available to the government to spend from income taxes. Thus far in the 2013 fiscal year, the interest on our debt is $151 Billion. However, the fiscal year is just four months old. You have to multiply by 3 to get the annual interest expense, i.e. 3 x $151 Billion is $453 Billion which is exactly one half of the tax revenues from individuals. Yes, I am mixing data from 2011 and 2013, but that is the only data that is available. And yes, we all know the government spends social security funds freely for things other than social security. However, from a personal income tax point of view, half of everyone's taxes not earmarked for social security go to pay off the debt. Ten years from now, it is going to be far worse. In 2011, 46% of our debt was foreign owned. Now, it is probably over 50%. What all this means is that half of every income tax dollar we give to the government goes to pay off interest and half of that goes offshore. All of this is listed in the websites I posted. However, I might have gotten some other data from other government sites. I can't remember.
Pete

Nashville, TN

#65516 Feb 8, 2013
Linda wrote:
<quoted text>
I KNOW that, Dummy! I'm very familiar with "per Diems". But, if you're traveling in your work and eating out, you're not taking your Friends out to Lunch/Dinner and claiming it as a Business Lunch/Dinner, either and writing it off your Taxes. if your Company/Boss is Paying you Travel Expenses, Your company is writing it off their Taxes...you're not. Or, you're not supposed to be, anyway.
Company=owned by Super Wealthy??? OK, YOURS a legitimate Expense for them, but I'll guarantee you that they're entertaining their Friends and buying them Breakfast, Lunch, or Dinner and claiming those, too!
See the point, Dumbo!
Are you kidding??? Company=owned by the Super Wealthy7 Did you honestly mean to write that? Do you know now many companies there are that are actually struggling to survive in this economy? Do you not realize that not every company is a MicroSoft, GM or GE? DO you think the owner of Cappy's Apex is super wealthy?

I had already realized your I.Q. was simply not that high, but now you are starting to show some serious mental deficiencies. No wonder you post of Topix all day, that is all you are capable of doing. Geez
Hey in Grey

Cookeville, TN

#65517 Feb 8, 2013
Lite N Lively wrote:
<quoted text>
I don't think the People in DC are doing it. I think that the People in DC just make it "possible"...sometim es...for the People of this Country to do what they've always done, which is roll up their sleeves and find a way to save themselves and this Nation, and usually make it better than it was before, by the time they get finished and rest. It's the American Way!
Wait a minute.It's a friggin mess.I see DC as enablers of the money people.These money people give them bribes to make laws and to do things that the money people want, what will make them richer.
The DC people like their positions of power and insider trading and lucretive job offerings down the road.They like the bribe money.
So to get lots of bribe money the DC syndicate does what they (the money people) want.
So if Monsanto for instance wants to sue for patent infringment when a bird craps in some farmers field and Monsanto sneeks in farmers fields to look for the bird pooped GMO plat DC gives them the green light.
And they get away with bankrupting farmers in their lawsuits.
How in God's name do you roll up your sleeves against that when the system does this?
This is only one little piece of thousands of this type of what goes on.
How did all those dead innocents in Iraq hold up under the system.
Shell is fine.Haliburton is fine.Goldman is fine.Detroit is in decay people lost good jobs.China is good the people not so much.
Now the EASTER BUNNY sure makes little kids happy and of course it keeps their family dentist rolling in cash.
Oh Hell the friggen Bunny is in on it too.

Since: Oct 11

Location hidden

#65519 Feb 8, 2013
Pete wrote:
<quoted text>
Are you kidding??? Company=owned by the Super Wealthy7 Did you honestly mean to write that? Do you know now many companies there are that are actually struggling to survive in this economy? Do you not realize that not every company is a MicroSoft, GM or GE? DO you think the owner of Cappy's Apex is super wealthy?
I had already realized your I.Q. was simply not that high, but now you are starting to show some serious mental deficiencies. No wonder you post of Topix all day, that is all you are capable of doing. Geez
Pete, I've read SOME of your Posts, that you posted this mornIng, carefully, but I didn't say a word about them because we were mostly all having an enjoyable conversation and I didn't want to spoil it by taking everything down. But, since you've already done that, I just have to say one thing about them. I owned a small Business for awhile and you are just spouting BS about Social Security, what you claim to pay and the way you claim to pay it. It's a distorted and twisted bunch of crap, to suit your own agenda, but has very little actual truth in it. So, if you really want to have a truthful discussion, that's fine, and some Posters will discuss these issues with you. But, if you're just going to distort and out-and-out tell lies, AND insult and bash Peoplethat call you out on what you're doing, it's a waste of everybody's time. Maybe, you should get your Butt to work and your Business wouldn't be about to go under, instead of distorting and Lying on Topix. Some of us DO know better!
Really Sassy

Duluth, GA

#65522 Feb 8, 2013
Lite N Lively wrote:
<quoted text>I believe the article said that it's ONLY 1st class mail, that won't be delivered on Saturday. 2nd, and 3rd Class mail will be, which is basically what your friend was saying, too.

We'll get the Junk Mail and not the Important Stuff! Lol! Actuall, it's been that way at my House for awhile. I don't get much on saturday and all of it is worthless...but on Monday, look out! Lots of it and most of it is important!
Your welfare check will still come dear. Don't worry.
LiteLively

United States

#65524 Feb 8, 2013
F U
Really Sassy

Duluth, GA

#65525 Feb 8, 2013
Lite N Lively wrote:
<quoted text>Pete, I've read SOME of your Posts, that you posted this mornIng, carefully, but I didn't say a word about them because we were mostly all having an enjoyable conversation and I didn't want to spoil it by taking everything down. But, since you've already done that, I just have to say one thing about them. I owned a small Business for awhile and you are just spouting BS about Social Security, what you claim to pay and the way you claim to pay it. It's a distorted and twisted bunch of crap, to suit your own agenda, but has very little actual truth in it. So, if you really want to have a truthful discussion, that's fine, and some Posters will discuss these issues with you. But, if you're just going to distort and out-and-out tell lies, AND insult and bash Peoplethat call you out on what you're doing, it's a waste of everybody's time. Maybe, you should get your Butt to work and your Business wouldn't be about to go under, instead of distorting and Lying on Topix. Some of us DO know better!
You are a fine one to call anyone a liar or reprimand anyone for distorting the truth. Mowing lawns isn't a business so therefore you haven't owned a business. His data is in fact correct because I have also reviewed it. It's based on the latest data available which he clearly spelled out but you are unable to comprehend anything other than a dick. So slow your roll Linda because you are the liar and you are jealous of anyone who can buy and sell your trashy little existence. Now have your stupid little alter ego come thru and do a spell check on my post. In the meantime I'll order my drinks and lunch while you sit all alone in your 900 square foot track home and call names. Bye Bye

The Real, Really Sassu
Honestly

Beechgrove, TN

#65528 Feb 8, 2013
Hey in Grey wrote:
<quoted text>
Where have you been?I'm not an Obama Fan.
Your just mad cause Cookeville has a TJ Max and Sparta doesn't.
My Bad

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#65530 Feb 8, 2013
Really Sassy wrote:
<quoted text>
You are a fine one to call anyone a liar or reprimand anyone for distorting the truth. Mowing lawns isn't a business so therefore you haven't owned a business. His data is in fact correct because I have also reviewed it. It's based on the latest data available which he clearly spelled out but you are unable to comprehend anything other than a dick. So slow your roll Linda because you are the liar and you are jealous of anyone who can buy and sell your trashy little existence. Now have your stupid little alter ego come thru and do a spell check on my post. In the meantime I'll order my drinks and lunch while you sit all alone in your 900 square foot track home and call names. Bye Bye
The Real, Really Sassu
You're scolding someone for being dishonest and untruthful...yet you're posting as "Really Sassy."

The shamelessness of your hypocrisy is amusing.
Pete

Nashville, TN

#65531 Feb 8, 2013
Lite N Lively wrote:
<quoted text>
Pete, I've read SOME of your Posts, that you posted this mornIng, carefully, but I didn't say a word about them because we were mostly all having an enjoyable conversation and I didn't want to spoil it by taking everything down. But, since you've already done that, I just have to say one thing about them. I owned a small Business for awhile and you are just spouting BS about Social Security, what you claim to pay and the way you claim to pay it. It's a distorted and twisted bunch of crap, to suit your own agenda, but has very little actual truth in it. So, if you really want to have a truthful discussion, that's fine, and some Posters will discuss these issues with you. But, if you're just going to distort and out-and-out tell lies, AND insult and bash Peoplethat call you out on what you're doing, it's a waste of everybody's time. Maybe, you should get your Butt to work and your Business wouldn't be about to go under, instead of distorting and Lying on Topix. Some of us DO know better!
Again, you're simply crazy. Everything I posted was factual. In fact, since you like trolling the internet, just type in FICA in Goggle and you will find out for yourself. I have owned a large business in this area for over 40 years and know exactly how FICA works. And BTW, my business is very successful.

Now I will call you out on one of your world famous contradictions. You said businesses were all owned by the super rich. In this post, you state you were a business owner once. Were you super rich while you owned the business? You keep saying you have no money, yet you owned a business so how could you not be super rich? See the contradiction. Posts like these are what make people think you are crazy and mentally deficient.
WILLARD

Dunlap, TN

#65532 Feb 8, 2013
Linda wrote:
<quoted text>
Just following your Lead, Baby, just following your Lead!
While I do appreciate the initiative here, you're stumbling in the wrong direction!
WILLARD

Dunlap, TN

#65533 Feb 8, 2013
The Original Amused wrote:
<quoted text>
You're scolding someone for being dishonest and untruthful...yet you're posting as "Really Sassy."
The shamelessness of your hypocrisy is amusing.
Many believe you have'nt standing to accuse others of hypocrisy. I think it has something to do with constantly trying to pass yourself off as being smart!
Really Sassy

Duluth, GA

#65534 Feb 8, 2013
WILLARD wrote:
<quoted text>Many believe you have'nt standing to accuse others of hypocrisy. I think it has something to do with constantly trying to pass yourself off as being smart!
I agree. Nothing is more irritating than an idiot attempting to pass themselves off as intelligent. You can always spot the type right out of the gate by the wording used.

Intelligent people speak using wording and language that they know can be easily understood by the general public, doing otherwise serves no purpose. If one can't convey his or her message in a manner that can be understood, what purpose does it serve?

Hopefully rather than following behind me doing spell checks and spewing undying love for lower class woman he will work towards improving his ability to reach the audience and comprehend what's written by others. I fear like his hero, he is a lost cause.

The Real, Really Sassy

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