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This administration is not morally constrained by our constitution. Pernicious doctrines of subjective truth, subjective morality, subjective relevancy, subjective ethics have now morphed into what I can only consider - subjective legal doctrines.
There are multiple bodies of law which, in and of themselves are foreboding. These seminal bodies of law are even darker when examined together. When separate legal empowerments pick up legal definitions found in separate but relevant sections of law, they become legally synergistic and reveal a dark and coherent intent!
Such is the case involving much of the current of law pursuant to to homeland security measures (LAWS) which deal with "continuity of government" and "exigent circumstances" during or after "ANY" "National Emergency".
Similar and additional libertires were taken (unconstitutionally) and are apparent in the 2013 NDAA law (National Defense Authorization Act). The legal definition of (north continental United States of America) has been legally declaired: a "Battlefield" in the war against terrorists! This will, by laws already passed, permit American citizens in the U.S. to be declaired "Domestic enemy combatants", subject to administrative prerogatives of targeted killing, not only by means of a drone strike.
Please also know that the threshold of evidence requires less than Probable cause or resonable suspicion, requiring on "suspicion" with language included having to do with those who are suspected as "political Beligerants". You may not be aware that Obama has now authorized "INTERPOL" to operate with total impunity within U.S. borders. Obama, with an executive order, stopped any and all oversight possibilities over this dubious organization tied to the KGB. Obama blocked all oversight of INTERPOL operations in the U.S. by Congress, F.B.I., C.I.A., and even the justice department! His executive order even blocks the powers of all sunshine laws in America, including the "freedom of Information Act". All of this information is available to anyone...It just requires work! Good luck to you.
Willard, which Executive Order did our President Obama sign to block all Sunshine Laws in America?
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<quoted text>Willard, which Executive Order did our President Obama sign to block all Sunshine Laws in America?
I didn't assert that! Interpol has been exempted.
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Hey Dunlapian, forget the popcorn, let's order in a Full Course Meal. This is going to be better than the Frazier-Ali Fight...and it's going to be long and bloody! LMAO!
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"Joe Walsh Forming Super PAC To Fight Karl Rove's Super PAC."
("The former Congressman joins Tea Partyers who are lining up against American Crossroads.")
Click here:
http://www.salon.com/2013/02/05/joe_walsh_for...
Your on Sassy, I just love watching Republicans eat their own!
Whoever gives to the Joe Walsh Super Pac might want to check to see that he does not dig in and take out $100,000 he owes his ex-wife and 3 little children.

As for old Karl.......well all I can say is good luck!(with your money)
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<quoted text>Willard, which Executive Order did our President Obama sign to block all Sunshine Laws in America?
Exerpt from the Examiner:

What is most disturbing to police chiefs and officers in the US is that President Obama has provided foreign officers and international agencies exemptions from laws and regulations to which US cops must comply. An amendment to an executive order secretly signed by President Barack Obama on December 16, 2009 gives police officers from foreign governments who work for INTERPOL police powers in the United States.

"This Obama executive order is a slap in the face of US cops -- who must adhere to laws and regulations including FOIA -- but also a slap in the face of American citizens who may be abused by these non-citizen cops from countries that don't recognize our constitutional protections," warns former New York City detective and Marine intelligence officer Sidney Franes.

When President Ronald Reagan's passed an executive order addressing INTERPOL, it clearly spelled out limitations such as requiring that INTERPOL operations be subject to several U.S. laws such as the Freedom of Information Act. While many opposed Reagan's executive order, it was unchallenged due to the Cold War.

"Under the Obama administration such Reagan-era limitations have been kicked to the wayside by a globalist White House," said Frances.

Obama's executive order reads as follows:

Amending Executive Order 12425 designating INTERPOL as a public international organization entitled to enjoy certain privileges, exemptions and immunities

"By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (22 U.S.C. 288), and in order to extend the appropriate privileges, exemptions, and immunities to the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL), it is hereby ordered that Executive Order 12425 of June 16, 1983, as amended, is further amended by deleting from the first sentence the words "except those provided by Section 2(c), Section 3, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6 of that Act" and the semicolon that immediately precedes them."

"What Obama has done is he's given foreign police agencies more power than our own police have or should have. What's next? INTERPOL cops raiding American homes based on unlawfully obtained information?" asks political strategist Mike Baker.

"This executive order signing received almost no media coverage and follows the recent creation of an International Intelligence Agency."

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Exerpt from the Examiner:
What is most disturbing to police chiefs and officers in the US is that President Obama has provided foreign officers and international agencies exemptions from laws and regulations to which US cops must comply. An amendment to an executive order secretly signed by President Barack Obama on December 16, 2009 gives police officers from foreign governments who work for INTERPOL police powers in the United States.
"This Obama executive order is a slap in the face of US cops -- who must adhere to laws and regulations including FOIA -- but also a slap in the face of American citizens who may be abused by these non-citizen cops from countries that don't recognize our constitutional protections," warns former New York City detective and Marine intelligence officer Sidney Franes.
When President Ronald Reagan's passed an executive order addressing INTERPOL, it clearly spelled out limitations such as requiring that INTERPOL operations be subject to several U.S. laws such as the Freedom of Information Act. While many opposed Reagan's executive order, it was unchallenged due to the Cold War.
"Under the Obama administration such Reagan-era limitations have been kicked to the wayside by a globalist White House," said Frances.
Obama's executive order reads as follows:
Amending Executive Order 12425 designating INTERPOL as a public international organization entitled to enjoy certain privileges, exemptions and immunities
"By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (22 U.S.C. 288), and in order to extend the appropriate privileges, exemptions, and immunities to the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL), it is hereby ordered that Executive Order 12425 of June 16, 1983, as amended, is further amended by deleting from the first sentence the words "except those provided by Section 2(c), Section 3, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6 of that Act" and the semicolon that immediately precedes them."
"What Obama has done is he's given foreign police agencies more power than our own police have or should have. What's next? INTERPOL cops raiding American homes based on unlawfully obtained information?" asks political strategist Mike Baker.
"This executive order signing received almost no media coverage and follows the recent creation of an International Intelligence Agency."
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2009/12/...

So what does the counterterrorism official from the Bush years think of this?

He can't believe it's taken this long.

"To the extent that granting these immunities to INTERPOL furthers the efficacy or ease of information-sharing or joint action on an expedited basis to act on warrants
seems like a no brainer to me," the official says.

"Conservatives can't have it both ways," the official says. "You can't be complaining about the hypothetical abdication of US jurisdiction at the same time you're complaining the Obama administration is not being tough enough on national security."

Obama administration officials say this new executive order doesn't allow INTERPOL to do any more than they were allowed to do once Reagan recognized them as a public international organization. Though clearly the Executive Order does prohibit US law enforcement from searching and seizing INTERPOL records, officials say, those provisions can be waived by the president if need be.
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WILLARD wrote:
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Exerpt from the Examiner:
What is most disturbing to police chiefs and officers in the US is that President Obama has provided foreign officers and international agencies exemptions from laws and regulations to which US cops must comply. An amendment to an executive order secretly signed by President Barack Obama on December 16, 2009 gives police officers from foreign governments who work for INTERPOL police powers in the United States.
"This Obama executive order is a slap in the face of US cops -- who must adhere to laws and regulations including FOIA -- but also a slap in the face of American citizens who may be abused by these non-citizen cops from countries that don't recognize our constitutional protections," warns former New York City detective and Marine intelligence officer Sidney Franes.
When President Ronald Reagan's passed an executive order addressing INTERPOL, it clearly spelled out limitations such as requiring that INTERPOL operations be subject to several U.S. laws such as the Freedom of Information Act. While many opposed Reagan's executive order, it was unchallenged due to the Cold War.
"Under the Obama administration such Reagan-era limitations have been kicked to the wayside by a globalist White House," said Frances.
Obama's executive order reads as follows:
Amending Executive Order 12425 designating INTERPOL as a public international organization entitled to enjoy certain privileges, exemptions and immunities
"By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (22 U.S.C. 288), and in order to extend the appropriate privileges, exemptions, and immunities to the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL),*it is hereby ordered that Executive Order 12425 of June 16, 1983, as amended, is further amended by deleting from the first sentence the words "except those provided by Section 2(c), Section 3, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6 of that Act" and the semicolon that immediately precedes them."
"What Obama has done is he's given foreign police agencies more power than our own police have or should have. What's next? INTERPOL cops raiding American homes based on unlawfully obtained information?" asks political strategist Mike Baker.
"This executive order signing received almost no media coverage and follows the recent creation of an International Intelligence Agency."
(INTERPOL),*"it is hereby ordered that Executive Order 12425 of June 16, 1983," A little old for obama to sign it.
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Exerpt from the Examiner:
What is most disturbing to police chiefs and officers in the US is that President Obama has provided foreign officers and international agencies exemptions from laws and regulations to which US cops must comply. An amendment to an executive order secretly signed by President Barack Obama on December 16, 2009 gives police officers from foreign governments who work for INTERPOL police powers in the United States.
"This Obama executive order is a slap in the face of US cops -- who must adhere to laws and regulations including FOIA -- but also a slap in the face of American citizens who may be abused by these non-citizen cops from countries that don't recognize our constitutional protections," warns former New York City detective and Marine intelligence officer Sidney Franes.
When President Ronald Reagan's passed an executive order addressing INTERPOL, it clearly spelled out limitations such as requiring that INTERPOL operations be subject to several U.S. laws such as the Freedom of Information Act. While many opposed Reagan's executive order, it was unchallenged due to the Cold War.
"Under the Obama administration such Reagan-era limitations have been kicked to the wayside by a globalist White House," said Frances.
Obama's executive order reads as follows:
Amending Executive Order 12425 designating INTERPOL as a public international organization entitled to enjoy certain privileges, exemptions and immunities
"By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and the laws of the United States of America, including section 1 of the International Organizations Immunities Act (22 U.S.C. 288), and in order to extend the appropriate privileges, exemptions, and immunities to the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL), it is hereby ordered that Executive Order 12425 of June 16, 1983, as amended, is further amended by deleting from the first sentence the words "except those provided by Section 2(c), Section 3, Section 4, Section 5, and Section 6 of that Act" and the semicolon that immediately precedes them."
"What Obama has done is he's given foreign police agencies more power than our own police have or should have. What's next? INTERPOL cops raiding American homes based on unlawfully obtained information?" asks political strategist Mike Baker.
"This executive order signing received almost no media coverage and follows the recent creation of an International Intelligence Agency."
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Congressman Jim McDermott (D-Washington) was on C-SPAN's "Washington Journal" Tuesday.

ďThis whole society is gradually changing in response to whatís going on. Now, weíre in a very difficult period right now, because we have a lot of people who suddenly think itís all about me. And it isnít about me; itís about we. If we donít take care of one another, and we say everybodyís on their own, then it will simply fall apart as a society: become a mob scene, as it was in Paris if you go see Les Misťrables. You can see what the country can become, if you donít have equity in the society. I donít want that. I want people to be able to have a peaceful life. And I think our system will work.Ē
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Mike wrote:
<quoted text>(INTERPOL),*"it is hereby ordered that Executive Order 12425 of June 16, 1983," A little old for obama to sign it.
You're a little behind here, Mike. This '83 code was being "Ammended"!
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The Original Amused wrote:
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http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2009/12/...
So what does the counterterrorism official from the Bush years think of this?
He can't believe it's taken this long.
"To the extent that granting these immunities to INTERPOL furthers the efficacy or ease of information-sharing or joint action on an expedited basis to act on warrants
seems like a no brainer to me," the official says.
"Conservatives can't have it both ways," the official says. "You can't be complaining about the hypothetical abdication of US jurisdiction at the same time you're complaining the Obama administration is not being tough enough on national security."
Obama administration officials say this new executive order doesn't allow INTERPOL to do any more than they were allowed to do once Reagan recognized them as a public international organization. Though clearly the Executive Order does prohibit US law enforcement from searching and seizing INTERPOL records, officials say, those provisions can be waived by the president if need be.
Are you suggesting you're surprised to discover Obama isn't the only American President complicit in the destruction of American sovereignty, along with our remaining constitutional integrity? In the instance of George Bush, you'd be referring to the very creator of homeland security, fusion centers, the first financial failure and bail-out, the systematic militarization of municiple law enforcement agencies and the creation of the Millenneum challenge corporation. George Bush not only created the MCC, but providced the first $2.25 billion tax-payer dollars to create this global bureaucracy by which to achieve global re-distribution of wealth. Hillary Clinton was the chairwoman of the MCC until very recently. Of course, Obama has continued this incredible mega-billion give-away by sending Hillary all over the world to build assets in other countries while America goes bankrupt to eventually fall into her own failing infrastructure. If you're in doubt, I'll happilly provide documentation to this effect. Anyone can see it themselves on the u.n. website, and elsewhere. Yes, everyone's almost out of the closet now!
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The Original Amused wrote:
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http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2009/12/...
So what does the counterterrorism official from the Bush years think of this?
He can't believe it's taken this long.
"To the extent that granting these immunities to INTERPOL furthers the efficacy or ease of information-sharing or joint action on an expedited basis to act on warrants
seems like a no brainer to me," the official says.
"Conservatives can't have it both ways," the official says. "You can't be complaining about the hypothetical abdication of US jurisdiction at the same time you're complaining the Obama administration is not being tough enough on national security."
Obama administration officials say this new executive order doesn't allow INTERPOL to do any more than they were allowed to do once Reagan recognized them as a public international organization. Though clearly the Executive Order does prohibit US law enforcement from searching and seizing INTERPOL records, officials say, those provisions can be waived by the president if need be.
Again, This shouldn't be surprising to anyone. This is no more surprising that the collaborative associations or shared intent of agenda between our President and his marxist/socialist Czars, cabinet members, advisors, personal friends and family members. When deception becomes lucrative, subversives show up instantly...kinda' like roaches!

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This administration is not morally constrained by our constitution. Pernicious doctrines of subjective truth, subjective morality, subjective relevancy, subjective ethics have now morphed into what I can only consider - subjective legal doctrines.
There are multiple bodies of law which, in and of themselves are foreboding. These seminal bodies of law are even darker when examined together. When separate legal empowerments pick up legal definitions found in separate but relevant sections of law, they become legally synergistic and reveal a dark and coherent intent!
Such is the case involving much of the current of law pursuant to to homeland security measures (LAWS) which deal with "continuity of government" and "exigent circumstances" during or after "ANY" "National Emergency".
Similar and additional libertires were taken (unconstitutionally) and are apparent in the 2013 NDAA law (National Defense Authorization Act). The legal definition of (north continental United States of America) has been legally declaired: a "Battlefield" in the war against terrorists! This will, by laws already passed, permit American citizens in the U.S. to be declaired "Domestic enemy combatants", subject to administrative prerogatives of targeted killing, not only by means of a drone strike.
Please also know that the threshold of evidence requires less than Probable cause or resonable suspicion, requiring on "suspicion" with language included having to do with those who are suspected as "political Beligerants". You may not be aware that Obama has now authorized "INTERPOL" to operate with total impunity within U.S. borders. Obama, with an executive order, stopped any and all oversight possibilities over this dubious organization tied to the KGB. Obama blocked all oversight of INTERPOL operations in the U.S. by Congress, F.B.I., C.I.A., and even the justice department! His executive order even blocks the powers of all sunshine laws in America, including the "freedom of Information Act". All of this information is available to anyone...It just requires work! Good luck to you.
INTERPOL is the World-wide Law Enforcement Agency. Every Law Enforcement Agency in the United States has access to it in their Database. So, whatcha talking about, Willard?
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INTERPOL is the World-wide Law Enforcement Agency. Every Law Enforcement Agency in the United States has access to it in their Database. So, whatcha talking about, Willard?
Your illiteracy isn't my problem!

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BTW Folks, this is my new User Name, in case you haven't figured it out.

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Your illiteracy isn't my problem!
No, but you're trying to make your Lying, ours! INTERPOL, a KGB affiliated Organization??? You're full of chit!
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BTW Folks, this is my new User Name, in case you haven't figured it out.
But, how do we know who you are now..or who you were then?
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No, but you're trying to make your Lying, ours! INTERPOL, a KGB affiliated Organization??? You're full of chit!
The interpol organization was was a known tentacle of the KGB and remained saturated by spies during and long after the cold war. This is just for starters.

I believe your ideas of who'se full of somethin' is sorely misplaced!

Since you're it here, you should spell it correctly - "Lively but not very lite"
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BTW Folks, this is my new User Name, in case you haven't figured it out.
O.k., what does a cat licking its lips have to do with "lite & lively"?

Obviously this is our job to figure out who you are because of some latent identity derrangement issue, or maybe just a desparately needed drama value..yes?
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BTW Folks, this is my new User Name, in case you haven't figured it out.
Sounds like fat free Yogurt to me.
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<quoted text>Willard, which Executive Order did our President Obama sign to block all Sunshine Laws in America?
WILLARD, I just asked a simple question!

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