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WHAT family? Who would admit it?
I thought real people LEARN. So he has probably lost some advertising with each new idiocy. And those 20 million are not really listening. Most can hear but they are not listening.
Lol! Well, I know that he has a Mother because she's the One who revealed that he has a chronic "Boil", I think, or something like that, on his backside (Ass), that won't heal and it made him ineligible for the Military draft, when we had it...and that he flunked out of College, if memory serves.
She revealed all of this not that long ago, so I assume she's still living.

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I'll keep my high capacity magazine loaded, in my pistol, in my nightstand next to me. I'll use any new 10-round magazines when I'm shooting cans or targets in the woods. No outrage here.
There's no conceivable way they could (or would) come and confiscate unregistered gun accessories that I own, and I won't throw a tantrum over the "inevitability" of such an impossible scenario.
Same as in the 90s -- our assault rifles will be worth double or triple what they were when we originally purchased them.
You are absolutely right! I had already thought of the ones who already own them...your assets will increase "a bunch", so what are you complaining about?
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1) No they are not owned only by Republicans, many Dems own stocks in them. The difference is that Democrats put PEOPLE above these companies. No matter what Mitt said corporations are not people. They are created to do one thing, make money. They have no heart and no soul and they think nothing of grinding people up and spitting them out if it suits them monetarily. Something needs to be a check on their power and that task falls to government.
2) You will never convince ME that unearned income is somehow more valuable than honest labor. Especially since it is Republicans who claim to revere work...as long as someone else does it for them.
3) I endeavor to "live by the New Testament", I wrote endeavor because I fall short many times a day. Republicans wish to return to life under the law as they simultaneously claim to be "Christians" ....a bit hypocritical isn't it ??
By the statement:"The difference is that Democrats put PEOPLE above these companies." DO you mean put them on welfare and food stamps? OH MY I guess you will pay for it with your vote. Have a good day lib.

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Well this story has been out for weeks now and I don't believe I have seen our resident Liberal link poster put up anything on it. So. here it is. Your Democrats in action.

http://washington.cbslocal.com/2013/01/15/ap-...

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<quoted text> I support the second amendment. That does not mean that I support everyone's right to own a machine gun. I own several guns and not to boast, I can shoot pretty well and I enjoy it. I have no intenton of turning my guns over to the government and I do not know ONE Democrat around here who is willing to (or advocating for that) either. I suspect the vast majority of Republicans support the same basic things that I do.
Obama,(and every THINKING person) realizes that there is no legislation that is going to completely protect kids from a nut with or without a gun hell bent on killing them.
I do not however think it is unreasonable to limit magazine sizes and outlaw those already in circulation, anymore than it is unreasonable to limit public access to dynamite.
Where I and what I call the gun nuts differ is that I KNOW without a doubt that IF my government sends the U.S. military after me, it will not matter what weapons I have, they will capture me or kill me if they wish to. These idiots think the military that defeated the Nazis and the Japanese, will be cowed by the awesome firepower located in their basement.
If reasonable gun owners would shut those folks up, they would do their cause and the second amendment a big favor.
I do not know what the answer is to preventing another Newtown or Columbine...but I don't subscribe to the notion that the answer is more guns, unless those guns are in the hands of trained professionals.
Excellent Post, OT! SEAL Team 6, alone, could take out any Rambo- Wannabe in this Country AND his Basement full of High-Powered Weapons, if the Orders ever came down...which they won't!
This is nothing, but an hysterical, paranoid reaction coming from these Guys, basically over NOTHING!
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Topix is reporting this morning that that stellar member of congress Michelle Bachman has been unable to find anyone to co-sponsor her bill to repeal Obamacare....the genius of the lower chamber is apparently unaware that the other 30 some odd times that the house repealed Obamacare did nothing to stop the ACA since the Senate would not even take up repeal and if they did and passed it Obama assured congress he would veto it.
This woman who claims to stand for fiscal responsibility in government wishes to add to the 50 million dollars the House has already wasted repealing the ACA. What is that definition of insanity again ???
OOOPS...I forgot, it is only Democrats that are guilty of wasting taxpayer's money....
First "ACA"????????

Does this ring a bell. The house has the purse strings. All they got to do is vote no to appropriations for OBAMACARE. Nothing would work. They don't even have to go through the Senate where ditry harry will not put his majority to the test by voting. This gives the senators a out when they want your vote by telling you they did not vote for or against a bill.. Convenient huh,, and it applies to both parties. Have you heard the Repub Senators trying to change or get a vote. No they like their DEM associates, just laugh in silence.

Yes, it is just like OBAMA spending 75 Million to implement the 23 exec orders he signed yesterday.

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Overtaxed wrote:
<quoted text> There is something we can agree on !
Somebody should have told Rush !
Just proves the old saying that even a Liberal... errrr clock is right twice a day. LOL

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Nuh wrote:
If a man says he'll fix it, he WILL. There is no need to go and remind him every dang six months about it
Lol! I get what you just said, but I don't think anybody else did! Are you trying to say that a Man will fix it sometime this Century, so there's no need to keep pressuring him about it every Decade? LMAO!

As Dunlapian keeps reminding me, it's that Man's "Box" mentality, kicking in, again. One thing at a time, is all a Man can think about or deal with, and everything has to wait until he clears than One "Box" out of his mind. Then, he'll go to the next "Box" and start working on clearing it out of his Mind. You gotta love 'em...but they only think about one thing, at a time, and everything else is wiped out of their thinking, while they're doing that.
If I can find that Video, explaining how a Man's Mind and thinking differs from a Woman's, I'll post it. It's hilarious...but accurate! Lol!

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Nuh wrote:
If a man says he'll fix it, he WILL. There is no need to go and remind him every dang six months about it
Here it is! LMAO!

http://www.youtube.com/watch...

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Jan 17, 2013
 
Bill Haslam
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<quoted text> Of course I have unearned income. My point was and IS that the money made in a savings account, real estate, stocks, bonds, etc. is MONEY. That is all it is. I made it without working, yet the tax code treats it more favorably than the money earned by the guy who made his with his hands and his back. NOTHING is more unfair in my opinion.
I see nothing special about unearned income...in fact I think labor deserves a richer reward than "passive capital investment". Obviously, we will need to agree to disagree, since I have come to my determination over many years and you probably have as well...
I tend to agree however, lets explore this a little more..
From what I understand the tax for unearned money is at 15%. Your Dem Billionaire Warren (somebody) stated that he paid less taxes than his secretary. Yes he did! he did not pay payroll taxes just unearned taxes. Apples and Oranges.

If I have invested $1M in a stock, the company I invested in would be the recipient of that money. Like a savings account allowing the bank to use your money, the company could use this money in which ever way their board sees fit. It could be to expand (purchase more equip. and hire more people)or it could be to pay off previous loans. There are a host of things that can be done with it.

What I out of the deal is the interest (dividends) from that money. Should I pay the same as someone who has labored for their paycheck? You say yes!, I say HOW MUCH? Do we pay taxes on these dividends the same as a earned payroll check. SS#, Medicare, withholding, etc.?
If you answer is yes, Take into account that if that company goes belly-up, I lose my Million dollars. If the bank goes bankrupt, your savings is protected up to a point. Ok, we charge all unearned dividends the same as a payroll paycheck. The stock market will fall through the floor immediately because me and others have removed their money from the companies stock. I am not going to pay someone 35-50% tax on unearned income when I have to take all the risk. Why risk it at all. Just keep the $1M and enjoy it. If I have $1M to put into the stock market, I have other businesses that are making that million and they do payroll taxes!

Now the companies no longer have money to expand, hire more workers, payoff old debts, pay for inventory they need to make their product in order to sell it to the public. You talking about a depression here of a massive scale. With more people out of work you are talking about less purchases, less payroll taxes and at some point in time, the gov. either raises taxes or starts shutting/trimming down entitlement spending (i.e welfare, SSN, Obamacare, food stamps, etc.)

My honest opinion is that Yes, we should tax the unearned money a little more from 15% to 20% but to place a payroll tax on it would result in short order a disaster nation wide we the people might not recover from.

To place that 5% on unearned tax might get us 500 Billion a year. Not enough to cover the $1.6 Trillion Obama Spends per year

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Overtaxed wrote:
<quoted text> I support the second amendment. That does not mean that I support everyone's right to own a machine gun. I own several guns and not to boast, I can shoot pretty well and I enjoy it. I have no intenton of turning my guns over to the government and I do not know ONE Democrat around here who is willing to (or advocating for that) either. I suspect the vast majority of Republicans support the same basic things that I do.
Obama,(and every THINKING person) realizes that there is no legislation that is going to completely protect kids from a nut with or without a gun hell bent on killing them.
I do not however think it is unreasonable to limit magazine sizes and outlaw those already in circulation, anymore than it is unreasonable to limit public access to dynamite.
Where I and what I call the gun nuts differ is that I KNOW without a doubt that IF my government sends the U.S. military after me, it will not matter what weapons I have, they will capture me or kill me if they wish to. These idiots think the military that defeated the Nazis and the Japanese, will be cowed by the awesome firepower located in their basement.
If reasonable gun owners would shut those folks up, they would do their cause and the second amendment a big favor.
I do not know what the answer is to preventing another Newtown or Columbine...but I don't subscribe to the notion that the answer is more guns, unless those guns are in the hands of trained professionals.
The first thing they would have to find is enough members of the US Military to move against the people. Many soldiers interviewed have stated that they will defend the US Constitution first. Then they have to convince them to move against their families. I don't think Obama is dumb enough to believe that he could turn the military against the people. The next group they have to worry about is the criminal element who will fight before giving up any guns. And they will gain access to the same types weapons that the military will use against them.

By saying it is not unreasonable to outlaw those already in circulation you set the stage for confiscation that could bring more blood to the streets than there already is. It has been proven time and again that making guns illegal does not stop gun violence. Look at Chicago and their gun ban. Last year more people died from gun violence in Chicago than our forces in Afghanistan.

I would like to see all gun crimes be a federal offense with a minimum 10 year jail sentence, no chance of parole. Crime went down in Florida with their 10/20/30 law. The way I heard it explained was this. Simply having possession of gun while committing a crime, whether you show it or not, is 10 years. Brandishing it in the commission of a crime is 20 years. Firing it is 30 and killing with it is life. All with no parole. That is the kind of gun law we need on a national level. Not restricting what law abiding citizens do or making criminals out of law abiding citizens.
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Oh Dear Lord, how dumb some of you People are! The "Judicial" Branch...i.e., the Supreme Court...ONLY "checks" Laws when the Case is brought before it. The Justices do NOT run around double-checking everything the President and Congress does.
Members of Congress are supposed to know the Constitution AND the Amendments to it...they are given a POCKET COPY when they are sworn in. Now, whether or not they read it or use it as a reference before they vote on an issue is doubtful. Sen. Robert Byrd of West Virginia, a Democrat, was famous for pulling it out of his Breast Pocket and waving it at the other Legislators, when he wanted to make a point in his speeches on the Senate Floor.
The President, along with being a former Constitutional Professor, himself, has Constitutional Attorneys on Staff to advise him on Constitutional Issues, as well as being able to pick up the phone and consult with any Constitutional Expert in the Nation.
I doubt that ANY of them have ever refused to take a call from the President of the United States...this One or any of the Former Ones! Plus, if he wants to for some reason, the President can summon any or all of them to the White House, should he deem it necessary. I don't know that any President ever has, but if One did, YOU DO NOT REFUSE! The President has the Power to have you brought there if he wants to. But, it's considered an Honor to be summoned to the white House and Nobody has ever refused!
So, now that you know just a small fraction of how many Experts on the Constitution are in the White House, on Congressional Staffs, Congressional Committee Staffs, Supreme Justices' Staffs, and easily accessible Nation-wide to any and all Presidents, Congressmen, and Senators, and...all as close as the nearest telephone or down the Hall, it's alittle ludicrous to even think that if the Constitution is being violated, NOBODY in the other Political Party would notice or know it! and you better bet that if the President should do it and the Teapublicans even thought the President was violating the Constitution, they would have filed charges against him before he even finished his speech!
You may be 62-63 and you have become very daft.

You can bet the Judicial sees every piece of NEW Law legislation?

Take that tot the bank! Yes that is their main. The other job just settles suites from lower courts.
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Really Sassy wrote:
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I don't care if it's from a Conservative or a "Liberal" Site as long as it's the truth, and I have yet to find a Conservative Site that tells the truth! Ideology has long ago replaced any Conservative Site's truth. there are a few Well-known Conservative Bloggers who don't lie and distort the truth. and even though I don't agree with their opinion, if I find it interesting and truthful about the facts, I post it. I did that just a couple of days ago, by George Wills, I think.
I KNOW what the problem is with you People because it's as plain as the nose of your face, in every Post you make, to us Long-time Political Junkies.
You barely knew that the Federal Gov't. even existed, nor did you care, until the Economy crashed and Barack Obama got elected President! then, all of a sudden you woke up out of the trance you had been in all your Life. But, instead of trying to catch up on what you had no knowledge of, or paid any attention to, for your whole life, even though it was your Patriotic Duty to keep up with what your Gov't. was doing...now you want to pretend that you know all about it and have all the answers, and all you do is make yourself look like the ignorant Fools that we all know you are because your Source of Information and your method of "catching up" is to watch and believe everything Fox Fake News tells you! And even then, you don't understand half of what they are lying to you about! And I'd bet money that you are a Tea Party Member or would be, if you joined any Political Party because it's the typical Tea Party Member that I've just described! Dumb as a box of rocks and still has no clue about the Federal Gov't. or how it works, much less WHY it works that way! So, you compare it to the only things you know, which is the simplest of things! And to make it even worse, you want to argue about it, when somebody tries to explain it to you and tell you why your Posts make absolutely NO SENSE!
I can tell just as well as I know my own Name who has been a Long-time Politics-watcher and Federal Gov't-watcher, on this Forum, and there are very few, but "OT" is obviously one and so is "Dunlapian". There are a handful more, of both Conservatives and Democrats who aren't as knowledgeable, but they are fast-learning and getting there. But, the Tea Party Newbies are the most ignorant that I have ever encountered, ANYWHERE, in my Lifetime! I simply don't think they have the mental capacity to ever learn anything and understand it! That's why you see all the pics, making fun of them, their spelling , and their own words. They have become the "National Joke" and justifiably so!
Your hypocritical TRUTH>

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Really Sassy wrote:
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Do you understand that if this passes, or is made Law by Executive Order, you are NOT going to have to surrender your Assault Weapon...you just won't be able to buy another one, in the U.S.


You and Overtaxed need to get your Liberal brains together on this.
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I do not however think it is unreasonable to limit magazine sizes and outlaw those already in circulation, anymore than it is unreasonable to limit public access to dynamite.
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Really Sassy wrote:
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Do you understand that if this passes, or is made Law by Executive Order, you are NOT going to have to surrender your Assault Weapon...you just won't be able to buy another one, in the U.S.
You'll probably be able to order all you want from other Countries, though! THAT wasn't mentioned, or addressed, in any of the Reports that I've seen.
I did read Reports of Assault Weapons being shipped into this Country from other Countries, when the previous Assault Weapons Ban was in force.
With this "Global Economy", I expect the Assault Weapons Manufactuters will just start making them in other Countries and you may have to pay extra shipping, but I doubt that you'll have any trouble ordering all of them that you want. But, I wouldn't advise re-selling them to anybody in this Country, once you receive them. But, for your own Personal use... I doubt there will be much change, at all. That's the same thing that I think about the Large-capacity Mags, too!
DUmb DUmb, it can not be made a law unless it passes through the senate and house of Reps. They are for Execution of present laws only.

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Honestly wrote:
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I tend to agree however, lets explore this a little more..
From what I understand the tax for unearned money is at 15%. Your Dem Billionaire Warren (somebody) stated that he paid less taxes than his secretary. Yes he did! he did not pay payroll taxes just unearned taxes. Apples and Oranges.
If I have invested $1M in a stock, the company I invested in would be the recipient of that money. Like a savings account allowing the bank to use your money, the company could use this money in which ever way their board sees fit. It could be to expand (purchase more equip. and hire more people)or it could be to pay off previous loans. There are a host of things that can be done with it.
What I out of the deal is the interest (dividends) from that money. Should I pay the same as someone who has labored for their paycheck? You say yes!, I say HOW MUCH? Do we pay taxes on these dividends the same as a earned payroll check. SS#, Medicare, withholding, etc.?
If you answer is yes, Take into account that if that company goes belly-up, I lose my Million dollars. If the bank goes bankrupt, your savings is protected up to a point. Ok, we charge all unearned dividends the same as a payroll paycheck. The stock market will fall through the floor immediately because me and others have removed their money from the companies stock. I am not going to pay someone 35-50% tax on unearned income when I have to take all the risk. Why risk it at all. Just keep the $1M and enjoy it. If I have $1M to put into the stock market, I have other businesses that are making that million and they do payroll taxes!
Now the companies no longer have money to expand, hire more workers, payoff old debts, pay for inventory they need to make their product in order to sell it to the public. You talking about a depression here of a massive scale. With more people out of work you are talking about less purchases, less payroll taxes and at some point in time, the gov. either raises taxes or starts shutting/trimming down entitlement spending (i.e welfare, SSN, Obamacare, food stamps, etc.)
My honest opinion is that Yes, we should tax the unearned money a little more from 15% to 20% but to place a payroll tax on it would result in short order a disaster nation wide we the people might not recover from.
To place that 5% on unearned tax might get us 500 Billion a year. Not enough to cover the $1.6 Trillion Obama Spends per year
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Your question reminded me of an old joke I heard years ago. I thought I would share it here. LOL
President Clinton was jogging in the park one day when he came across a young boy with a litter of puppies. He stopped to ask the boy about the pups. The boy told him that they were recently born and were all Democrats. This made Clintton very happy as he finished his jog. A few days later, while joggging, he again saw the same boy and stopped to inquire about the pups. The little boy proudly told him that they were doing fine and they were all Republicans. This shocked the President and he said "You told me last week that they were all Democrats, Why do you say they are Republicaqns now?" The boy replied, "Last night their eyes opened."
Also remember these famous words. "The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.
&#8213; Margaret Thatcher
Very GOOOOOOOODDD>>>> >>>>>>> >>>
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<quoted text> I support the second amendment. That does not mean that I support everyone's right to own a machine gun. I own several guns and not to boast, I can shoot pretty well and I enjoy it. I have no intenton of turning my guns over to the government and I do not know ONE Democrat around here who is willing to (or advocating for that) either. I suspect the vast majority of Republicans support the same basic things that I do.
Obama,(and every THINKING person) realizes that there is no legislation that is going to completely protect kids from a nut with or without a gun hell bent on killing them.
I do not however think it is unreasonable to limit magazine sizes and outlaw those already in circulation, anymore than it is unreasonable to limit public access to dynamite.
Where I and what I call the gun nuts differ is that I KNOW without a doubt that IF my government sends the U.S. military after me, it will not matter what weapons I have, they will capture me or kill me if they wish to. These idiots think the military that defeated the Nazis and the Japanese, will be cowed by the awesome firepower located in their basement.
If reasonable gun owners would shut those folks up, they would do their cause and the second amendment a big favor.
I do not know what the answer is to preventing another Newtown or Columbine...but I don't subscribe to the notion that the answer is more guns, unless those guns are in the hands of trained professionals.
check out this site:( http://justifiedends.blogspot.com/ ). The writer spells out pretty good the yes, and nahs of protecting our schools. Unfortunately, it has now been three weeks and the Sparta commissioners, school board and their superintendent have done nothing. Its like they are just waiting until it happens here. Maybe we could sue them for incompetence.

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On a slightly different note.

Dear Abby R.I.P.

'Dear Abby' Pauline Phillips Dies at 94
http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,20665...

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