Who do you support for Governor in Tennessee in 2010?

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Overtaxed wrote:
<quoted text>Politicians would like us to believe that they can't pick up those IOUs but with fiat currency, they can. There is no crisis in Social Security or Medicare. These programs are as solvent as they ever were. We are being duped with a lot of propaganda, most of it designed to continue to enrich those who are able to buy themselves a bunch of Representatives and a handful of Senators at our expense.
I want to know who gave Obama permission to put S.S. on the table anyway. The vast majority of Americans want these programs to continue as they are, and it is the job of our elected representatives to see to it that they stay that way.
And again, I learn from you.:)

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<quoted text>......and back at ya "OT" and your family.
Well the pendulum of politics keeps changing, so it's good to just step back and see what is actually happening at that point in time.
I know they are ALL causing me under alot of unnecessary stress. LOL!
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Jan 5, 2013
 
I'd have more fun watching grass grow.
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Jan 5, 2013
 
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I'm afraid that the first comcession he will make is to sacrifice something from SS and /or Medicare. We all know that's always been the target of the Republicans and Obama offered it up , in the Fiscal Cliff deal and I'm afraid that he'll do it, again.
And you know why I think he's willing to do it? I think because he knows that it's going to be a very long time, if ever, before the Federal Gov't. will be able to pick up those IOU's that they owe, from taking the money out of the Reserve Fund to spend for other things.That money was never supposed to be touched , by Law, but apparently the Law was changed somewhere along the line and it was kept hush-hush from the American People.
I think one thing they could work on in SS is disability. I read an interesting article yesterday that said an estimated 12 million working age people are on disability and that is more people than the total people working in manufacturing jobs in this country. I know it is necessary for many people, but I believe there is some major abuse in that area. When I read my SS statement, I am just amazed at how much more I could draw now on disability than if I work until I am 67 to 70. I think there are many people out there who have figured out how to work this system at the expense of everyone else.

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Jan 5, 2013
 
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I think one thing they could work on in SS is disability. I read an interesting article yesterday that said an estimated 12 million working age people are on disability and that is more people than the total people working in manufacturing jobs in this country. I know it is necessary for many people, but I believe there is some major abuse in that area. When I read my SS statement, I am just amazed at how much more I could draw now on disability than if I work until I am 67 to 70. I think there are many people out there who have figured out how to work this system at the expense of everyone else.
Drug addiction is considered a Disability...that's why the high number of Recipients.

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tab wrote:
I'd have more fun watching grass grow.
More fun than doing what?
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Drug addiction is considered a Disability...that's why the high number of Recipients.
Well then that should be really easy to fix. Take drug addiction off the list.
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More fun than doing what?
Watching a frog hop.

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Well then that should be really easy to fix. Take drug addiction off the list.
Well, you'd think so BUT...most of them have Kids (Dependents) and it's cheaper to leave the Kids in the Home and provide Disability to the Parent or Parents, than to put them in foster care and the State have to pick up the Tab for raising them.
And if they don't have Kids, paying the Addict Disability is cheaper and a lot less trouble than having them Homeless and sending an ambulance and providing them with Indigent Hospital Care everytime they get high and pass out in the Street...again paid for by the State. The States couldn't afford to pay those prices without raising or implementing a High State Income Tax that very few in this Low Income State could afford to pay, considering the Low Wages that are paid, on most Jobs.
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Jan 5, 2013
 
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I think one thing they could work on in SS is disability. I read an interesting article yesterday that said an estimated 12 million working age people are on disability and that is more people than the total people working in manufacturing jobs in this country. I know it is necessary for many people, but I believe there is some major abuse in that area. When I read my SS statement, I am just amazed at how much more I could draw now on disability than if I work until I am 67 to 70. I think there are many people out there who have figured out how to work this system at the expense of everyone else.
I can tell you what happened to a LOT of those who are on disability around here. Many people worked for years in those factories I posted about, that closed or moved to China and Mexico. Those folks were for the most part older, and in less demand as factories downsized everywhere. They found themselves without a job, without health insurnce, and close to retirement age but not close enough...They could not find work with health coverage, had pre-existing conditions, and couldn't afford the premiums on their own if they didn't. SO, they availed themselves of the only avenue they had without going bankrupt first. They signed up for Social Security Disability. Many would have found a minimum wage job somewhere if they had insurance, because most of those I am talking about had worked all of their lives, but they didn't.
The ACA will slow this down, since coverage without pre-existing exclusions will be available on a sliding scale.

This is not to say that there aren't some who abuse the system, because there ALWAYS are, but the vast majority that I know were in the catch 22 I outlined above. A tough place to be after working all of your life. Naturally, the politicians never noticed as they made it ever easier to outsource American jobs to cheap labor countries.

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Jan 5, 2013
 
OT, you're right about that, too. It's alot the same here.
I had a Dr. tell me one time that a Factory will use you up and throw you away, especially the Factories of today that require you to work a lot harder than they used to, under a lot worse conditions. And alot of the workers aren't capable, or don't have enough confidence in themselves, to do any of the jobs except the hardest Ones and they will literally work themselves to death at those hard jobs, doing everything the hard way, rather than trying to find easier, safer ways to do them, while accomplishing the same results.
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Jan 5, 2013
 
How do u do it an easier way?all I've ever known is the hard way.
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Jan 5, 2013
 
Overtaxed wrote:
<quoted text> I can tell you what happened to a LOT of those who are on disability around here. Many people worked for years in those factories I posted about, that closed or moved to China and Mexico. Those folks were for the most part older, and in less demand as factories downsized everywhere. They found themselves without a job, without health insurnce, and close to retirement age but not close enough...They could not find work with health coverage, had pre-existing conditions, and couldn't afford the premiums on their own if they didn't. SO, they availed themselves of the only avenue they had without going bankrupt first. They signed up for Social Security Disability. Many would have found a minimum wage job somewhere if they had insurance, because most of those I am talking about had worked all of their lives, but they didn't.
The ACA will slow this down, since coverage without pre-existing exclusions will be available on a sliding scale.
This is not to say that there aren't some who abuse the system, because there ALWAYS are, but the vast majority that I know were in the catch 22 I outlined above. A tough place to be after working all of your life. Naturally, the politicians never noticed as they made it ever easier to outsource American jobs to cheap labor countries.
I don't have as big a problem with that as I so Sassy's scenario. I don't think we should be paying drug addicted parents so that they can keep their children because we all know drug addicted parents are not taking care of their kids with that money. If we really have that big a problem with drug addicted parents, then maybe it is time we open orphanages in this country because the chances of a child raised in that environment becoming productive members of society are slim, so it sounds like we are perpetuating the problem.

I said in my first post that I understand some people needing those benefits. I have seen several that I don't think fit that category. I know some 30 to 40 somethings that are on it because they have back pain, and will work for cash if they can find someone who will give it to them. I have back pain too... I believe the lawyer ads on TV are a good indication that we have a problem. They show those 30 to 40 somethings that are so happy that the lawyer got them "the money they deserve". No, I do not want those people and drug addicts drawing SS disability benefits!
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Jan 5, 2013
 
I think if u take the long hard rd,whatever it is ur trying to accomplish will mean a whole lot more to u n u will gain soo much more than u wld if u took the short easy way out.
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After read a few of the recent posts in this thread, I have come to realize that the shallow end of the gene pool is overfloying.
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Jan 5, 2013
 
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OT, you're right about that, too. It's alot the same here.
I had a Dr. tell me one time that a Factory will use you up and throw you away, especially the Factories of today that require you to work a lot harder than they used to, under a lot worse conditions. And alot of the workers aren't capable, or don't have enough confidence in themselves, to do any of the jobs except the hardest Ones and they will literally work themselves to death at those hard jobs, doing everything the hard way, rather than trying to find easier, safer ways to do them, while accomplishing the same results.
I bet that you are on welfare. Am I right?
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The lying Democrats pulled one over on everyone and the media is just now picking up on it. Barry's Obama's tax plan for the "RICH" has translated into taxes going up on 77% of tax payers. That's right, you thought only maybe 2% of the "rich" tax payers got hit with higher taxes, LOL...wrong. Fact check this Democraps.......A working person making less than $10,000 will see a $68 per year increase in his federal taxes now.
Ignorant voters believe everything these lying politicians feed them.
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Unreal wrote:
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I don't have as big a problem with that as I so Sassy's scenario. I don't think we should be paying drug addicted parents so that they can keep their children because we all know drug addicted parents are not taking care of their kids with that money. If we really have that big a problem with drug addicted parents, then maybe it is time we open orphanages in this country because the chances of a child raised in that environment becoming productive members of society are slim, so it sounds like we are perpetuating the problem.
I said in my first post that I understand some people needing those benefits. I have seen several that I don't think fit that category. I know some 30 to 40 somethings that are on it because they have back pain, and will work for cash if they can find someone who will give it to them. I have back pain too... I believe the lawyer ads on TV are a good indication that we have a problem. They show those 30 to 40 somethings that are so happy that the lawyer got them "the money they deserve". No, I do not want those people and drug addicts drawing SS disability benefits!
But you were against drug testing for welfare and food stamps?

You do realize that at some point, "chronically unemployed" will become a disability. They are already considered a minority with special protections. We gotta do something with these people - might as well put them on disability. It'll be cheaper than extending unemployment benefits.

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Barry Obama Is a Failure wrote:
The lying Democrats pulled one over on everyone and the media is just now picking up on it. Barry's Obama's tax plan for the "RICH" has translated into taxes going up on 77% of tax payers. That's right, you thought only maybe 2% of the "rich" tax payers got hit with higher taxes, LOL...wrong. Fact check this Democraps.......A working person making less than $10,000 will see a $68 per year increase in his federal taxes now.
Ignorant voters believe everything these lying politicians feed them.
We are still getting a tax break on our income taxes. The R's insisted that this same break must extend all the way up to $450,000 per year!(They look after the rich)
What you are talking about is the temporary holiday on withholding tax (SS) Obama gave us a couple of years back to help us in the recession. So the current 4.2% withholding goes back to the usual 6.2%. Toughen up and don't be bitter about the election outcome.
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#61593
Jan 5, 2013
 
My daddy told me to tell u its already n the bag,soo suck it up azzwipe twerps

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