JCTpxer

Johnson City, TN

#58799 Dec 12, 2012
Nuh wrote:
The evolution of T-Bone's letter to Santa:
Dear Santa,
How are you? How is Mrs. Claus? I hope everyone, from the reindeer to the elves, is fine. I have been a very good boy this year. I would like an X-Box 360 with Call of Duty IV and an iPhone 4 for Christmas. I hope you remember that come Christmas Day.
Merry Christmas,
Timmy Jones
Dear Timmy,
Thank you for you letter. Mrs. Claus, the reindeer and the elves are all fine and thank you for asking about them. Santa is a little worried all the time you spend playing video games and texting. Santa wouldn't want you to get fat. Since you have indeed been a good boy, I think I'll bring you something you can go outside and play with.
Merry Christmas,
Santa Claus
Mr. Claus,
Seeing that I have fulfilled the "naughty vs. Nice" contract, set by you I might add, I feel confident that you can see your way clear to granting me what I have asked for. I certainly wouldn't want to turn this joyous season into one of litigation. Also, don't you think that a jibe at my weight coming from an overweight man who goes out once a year is a bit trite?
Respectfully,
Tim Jones
Mr. Jones,
While I have acknowledged you have met the "nice" criteria, need I remind you that your Christmas list is a request and in no way is it a guarantee of services provided. Should you wish to pursue legal action, well that is your right. Please know, however, that my attorney's have been on retainer ever since the Burgermeister Meisterburger incident and will be more than happy to take you on in open court. Additionally, the exercise I alluded to will not only improve your health, but also improve your social skills and potentially help clear up a complexion that looks like the bottom of the Burger King fry bin most days.
Very Truly Yours,
S Claus
Now look here Fat Man,
I told you what I want and I expect you to bring it. I was attempting to be polite about this but you brought my looks and my friends into this. Now you just be disrespecting me. I'm about to tweet my boys and we're gonna be waiting for yo' fat azz and I'm taking my game console, my game, my phone, and whatever else I want. WHAT EVER I WANT, MAN!
T-Bone
Listen Pizza Face,
Seriously??? You think a dude that breaks into every house in the world on one night and never gets caught sweats a skinny G-banger wannabe? "He sees you when you're sleeping; He knows when you're awake". Sound familiar, genius? You know what kind of resources I have at my disposal. I got your sh!t wired, Jack. I go all around the world and see ways to hurt people that if I described them right now, you'd throw up your Totino's pizza roll all over the carpet of your mom's basement. You're not getting what you asked for, but I'm still stopping by your crib to stomp a mud hole in yo' azz and then walk it dry. Chew on that, Petunia.
S Clizzy
Dear Santa,
Bring me whatever you see fit. I'll appreciate anything.
Timmy
Timmy,
That's what I thought you'd say you little baztard.
Santa
Funny!
Dunlapian

Dunlap, TN

#58800 Dec 12, 2012
PeopleRepblicofPilotOI wrote:
Work more for less pay its what they want .
.....and that is what they get, without a Union. No middle class to help the economy grow, just the very rich and the very poor and the very poor pay little if any tax. The very rich know exactly how to pay just a littleif any tax or they just dump their loot offshore, and pay no tax at all.
So then the very rich have all bells and whistles(Hatteras 80, Bertram 80, Gulfstream G-650) to get away from the day to day sweatshops they run and spend it on some exotic island far far away from America.
Jackson

South Pittsburg, TN

#58801 Dec 12, 2012
Dunlapian wrote:
<quoted text>.....and that is what they get, without a Union. No middle class to help the economy grow, just the very rich and the very poor and the very poor pay little if any tax. The very rich know exactly how to pay just a littleif any tax or they just dump their loot offshore, and pay no tax at all.
So then the very rich have all bells and whistles(Hatteras 80, Bertram 80, Gulfstream G-650) to get away from the day to day sweatshops they run and spend it on some exotic island far far away from America.
By your logic, there is no middle class in Michigan. Less than 16% of workers in Michigan are union NOW. That means 84% are not in a union. So because there are not enough unions in Michigan (which is laughable)- there must not be a middle class.

Not sure what all the hub-bub is about...right to work laws allow workers the CHOICE to either join or not. They may very well choose to join - instead of being FORCED to join.

Where's all the PRO_CHOICE liberal outcry?
Bayless

South Pittsburg, TN

#58802 Dec 12, 2012
PeopleRepblicofPilotOI wrote:
Work more for less pay its what they want .
Yeah!

Maybe they'll have one of them there recall elections like say, Wisconsin did with that Scott Walker!!!

Really showed him!
Nuh

South Pittsburg, TN

#58803 Dec 12, 2012
Truth Detector wrote:
Proof positive that unions and solidarity cause brain damage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v =u_F3oev06i0XX&feature=you tu.be
Obama got the brain damaged vote. Go figure.
Obama berated right-to-work laws all over the country and expressed his support of union workers in Michigan ahead of the State House passing the legislation today.


"These so-called right to work laws, they don't have to do with economics, they have everything to do with politics.

No, it's Obama and his labor unions that have everything to do with politics and nothing to do with economics. If you want to see what labor unions have to do with the economy, take a drive thru Detroit.

In 1950, according the U.S. Census Bureau, Detroit had 1,849,568 people...by 2011, it dropped to 706,585.

What has happened to the people who remain? The Census Bureau estimates there are 563,055 people age 16 or older in the city who could potentially work and be part of the labor force. But only 54.3 percent of these — or 305,479 individuals — actually do participate in the labor force, meaning they either have a job or are looking for one.
Another 257,576 of Detroit residents age 16 or older — 45.7 percent of that demographic — do not participate in the labor force. They do not have a job, and they are not looking for one.

The 224,846 residents who do have jobs, 34,500 — or 15.3 percent — have jobs with the government. Thus, this city that boasted 1,849,568 residents in 1950 has only 190,346 private-sector workers today.

Obama said in Michigan that if the federal government does not take more money away from people who have earned it, the public schools may not be able to buy school books. But the Department of Education says that in the Detroit public schools — which have books — only 7 percent of the eight graders are grade-level proficient in reading and only 4 percent are grade-level proficient in math.
Truth Detector

Jamestown, TN

#58804 Dec 12, 2012
Appearing on MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell Reports on Tuesday, liberal Washington Post columnist Ruth Marcus lashed out against passage of Michigan's right-to-work law: "Unions are reeling, and the more states that enact measures like this, the more unions will be reeling....unions aren't going to survive when people have a choice of whether to ante up the dues or to get the benefit of being free-riders."

If unions were such a good thing, you’d think people would be clamoring to join them, and happy to pay the dues without government coercion.

Being FORCED to join sounds, well, communistic doesn’t it? But then FORCE is the only thing unions know.
Truth Detector

Jamestown, TN

#58805 Dec 12, 2012
Dunlapian wrote:
<quoted text>.....and that is what they get, without a Union. No middle class to help the economy grow, just the very rich and the very poor and the very poor pay little if any tax. The very rich know exactly how to pay just a littleif any tax or they just dump their loot offshore, and pay no tax at all.
So then the very rich have all bells and whistles(Hatteras 80, Bertram 80, Gulfstream G-650) to get away from the day to day sweatshops they run and spend it on some exotic island far far away from America.
Actually, what you get with unions is exactly what we are experiencing, unemployment, and the movement of jobs overseas.

Cost of materials fluctuate up and down. Profits fluctuate up and down. The economy on the whole fluctuates up and down. The only thing that doesn't is unionized wages.

Faced with smaller margins, and an inflexible labor pool, businesses have no choice but to look for cheaper labor. what unions didn't expect was the opening of china, and the cheapest labor in the world.

But take heart unionistas. China is going to go through the same labor revolution that we experienced in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. As the chinese laborer gets smarter and demands more, the cost of chinese labor will go up. As it goes up, American labor should be able to compete once again. But you might have to with 30 years for this to happen.

Ohm yeah. One more problem. The communist chinese government won't pass labor legislation, like America has. They'll just kill all the workers.

Since: Mar 10

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#58806 Dec 12, 2012
Jackson wrote:
<quoted text>
By your logic, there is no middle class in Michigan. Less than 16% of workers in Michigan are union NOW. That means 84% are not in a union. So because there are not enough unions in Michigan (which is laughable)- there must not be a middle class.
Not sure what all the hub-bub is about...right to work laws allow workers the CHOICE to either join or not. They may very well choose to join - instead of being FORCED to join.
Where's all the PRO_CHOICE liberal outcry?
Um, how could only 16% of workers in Michigan belong to a union unless they already had a choice NOT to join a union?

Since: Oct 11

Location hidden

#58807 Dec 12, 2012
That would have to mean that just about the only Unions in Michigan were the Auto Workers Union and since most of the Auto Industry has either closed down or moved out of Michigan, that is the only explanation for the low number that I can think of.
Jackson

South Pittsburg, TN

#58808 Dec 12, 2012
The Original Amused wrote:
<quoted text>
Um, how could only 16% of workers in Michigan belong to a union unless they already had a choice NOT to join a union?
Um, if they didn't join the union at a workplace that had a collective bargaining agreement...then they didn't have a job. That's a FACT.
Hijack

Nashville, TN

#58809 Dec 12, 2012
I actually have nothing to contribute to this circlejerk, I just want to finish getting my name on all the top threads....aaaaand DONE.
Jackson

South Pittsburg, TN

#58810 Dec 12, 2012
Truth Detector wrote:
Appearing on MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell Reports on Tuesday, liberal Washington Post columnist Ruth Marcus lashed out against passage of Michigan's right-to-work law: "Unions are reeling, and the more states that enact measures like this, the more unions will be reeling....unions aren't going to survive when people have a choice of whether to ante up the dues or to get the benefit of being free-riders."
If unions were such a good thing, you’d think people would be clamoring to join them, and happy to pay the dues without government coercion.
Being FORCED to join sounds, well, communistic doesn’t it? But then FORCE is the only thing unions know.
If the unions are providing a good service in whatever company you work for...everyone would be lining up to join.

Plain and simple...The RIGHT TO WORK LAW gives someone a choice to join or not join the union
Overtaxed

Thorn Hill, TN

#58811 Dec 12, 2012
Bayless wrote:
<quoted text>
Ah yes, the federal government has such a great track record on running things correctly - such as the federal government itself (broke), postal service (broke), social security (broke), medicare (broke), medicade (broke)...come to think of it, about the only thing the federal government can really do well is have a military that gets things done...although those $300 hammers and $500 toilet seats really do produce a drag.
Drastically cut taxes year upon year from 1980 forward, then promise no cuts in popular programs to get the votes for reelection and you get what we have. The American population is getting older and healthcare costs are going to be higher for years to come. Combine that with the loss of good jobs with benefits, and you have what we are dealing with.
Basicially, we either need higher taxes to fund these programs AND more good paying jobs that pay enough to help fund the treasury, or we go back to pre 1930 America...if you are old, well hurry and die, if you are hungry, well hurry and starve, if you are unemployed, well tough luck !
Simple choice starkly stated.
Dunlapian

Dunlap, TN

#58812 Dec 12, 2012
Jackson wrote:
<quoted text>
By your logic, there is no middle class in Michigan. Less than 16% of workers in Michigan are union NOW. That means 84% are not in a union. So because there are not enough unions in Michigan (which is laughable)- there must not be a middle class.
Not sure what all the hub-bub is about...right to work laws allow workers the CHOICE to either join or not. They may very well choose to join - instead of being FORCED to join.
Where's all the PRO_CHOICE liberal outcry?
Unions lead the rights and increase the wages of the workers, true not everyone belongs to a Union, but they(non-union) also benefit by what the Unions bargin for.
With Unions getting weaker and weaker so will the American middle class become smaller and smaller.
The "Right to Work" means you can still have a Union but you don't have to be a Union member and you will still get all of the benefits that come with being a Union member. In other words you can just sit back and not pull your own weight and still reap all of the benefits.
Then on top of this you pull out the PRO_CHOICE issue,........you are all over the place. By your "Thought Process", I could just throw out the PRO_CHOICE issue on taxing the 2%, because I choose to tax them.
Overtaxed

Thorn Hill, TN

#58813 Dec 12, 2012
Nuh wrote:
(D)imwits Ask For Delay to zerOcare Med Device Tax They Voted For In First Place...
In a letter to Majority Leader Harry Reid, 18 Democrat senators and senators-elect have asked for “a delay in the implementation” of the Obamacare medical device tax. Like most of the significant tax increases in Obamacare, the medical device tax is scheduled to take effect on Jan. 1, 2013, conveniently after the 2012 presidential election.
Each of the 18 Democrat signatories voted for or supported Obamacare in the first place. And now they want a sweetheart exemption from one of its most onerous provisions. Even in Washington DC, that shows a lot of gall.
http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/docume...
I agree ! I guess they never read the bill...I did, every LONG page of it and I knew this was in there...if they had done their jobs they would have too. Providing 40 MILLION people with health insurance costs money, and it will yield far reaching benefits. SOMEBODY has to pay for it and this is a part of the funding. But you are right this does show a lot of gall !

Since: Mar 10

Location hidden

#58814 Dec 12, 2012
Jackson wrote:
<quoted text>
Um, if they didn't join the union at a workplace that had a collective bargaining agreement...then they didn't have a job. That's a FACT.
Soooo, workplaces in Michigan DO have a choice to have a collective bargaining agreement, then? Or is all this rhetoric about "choice" just smoke and mirrors?

Again, if workers in Michigan don't have a choice but to join a union, then why is the number of union workers in Michigan not 100%?

Since: Oct 11

Location hidden

#58815 Dec 12, 2012
Jackson wrote:
<quoted text>
If the unions are providing a good service in whatever company you work for...everyone would be lining up to join.
Plain and simple...The RIGHT TO WORK LAW gives someone a choice to join or not join the union
For every Worker that does NOT join, the Union is made alittle weaker because the Members ARE the Union. To have a strong Union in that particular workplace, every Worker has to be a Union Member.
Pam

South Pittsburg, TN

#58816 Dec 12, 2012
The Original Amused wrote:
<quoted text>
Soooo, workplaces in Michigan DO have a choice to have a collective bargaining agreement, then? Or is all this rhetoric about "choice" just smoke and mirrors?
Again, if workers in Michigan don't have a choice but to join a union, then why is the number of union workers in Michigan not 100%?
It's law. LOL Deal with it! Well, actually, you don't have to unless you live in Michigan.

Since: Oct 11

Location hidden

#58817 Dec 12, 2012
I should have added that the Power of the Union is in the Number of Members.
Truth Detector

Jamestown, TN

#58818 Dec 12, 2012
Overtaxed wrote:
<quoted text> Drastically cut taxes year upon year from 1980 forward, then promise no cuts in popular programs to get the votes for reelection and you get what we have. The American population is getting older and healthcare costs are going to be higher for years to come. Combine that with the loss of good jobs with benefits, and you have what we are dealing with.
Basicially, we either need higher taxes to fund these programs AND more good paying jobs that pay enough to help fund the treasury, or we go back to pre 1930 America...if you are old, well hurry and die, if you are hungry, well hurry and starve, if you are unemployed, well tough luck !
Simple choice starkly stated.
Nothing about spending? Clinton's entire budget in 1991 was 1.2 trillion. Today, that's just the deficit. How can you have an intelligent discussion without including anything about spending.

You have made the case for going back to 91% tax rates. Ok, as long as we go back to that era's spending rate.

Unemployed, tough luck? How about unemployed, and we'll pay you to stay that way.

And when you stop looking, we won't count you anymore so the unemployment rate goes down, making it look - to stupid people at least - like your policies are working.

You have to admit, we DO have a spending problem. And your tax the rich isn't going to fix it, because all the extra money that taxing the rich is going to bring in is earmarked for his additional spending plans.

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