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Reality Check

Little Rock, AR

#25911 Jul 20, 2013
BARNEYII wrote:
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Why did you not research those numbers before having to stand corrected?
It would increase your credibility to know what you are talking about before you present it as fact. That was your intention, was it not, presenting that as fact. Sad part you do it repeatedly, you know what they say about telling a lie so many times.
I did research those numbers and I carelessly quit looking after 2011 as you pointed out. Had I seen the 2012 deficit numbers in my research, I would have gladly referenced them regardless of if they went against the point I was making. Believe me, having an average of over $1.3 trillion in deficit spending for three straight years is bad enough to overshadow a fourth year of over $1 trillion. As for knowing what one is talking about, I certainly give you the credit for knowing what you are talking about when it comes to political issues. I simply strongly disagree with whether it is right for our country and I question the ethics of the methods liberals use to get what they want in this country. If I tell a lie, it certainly is never intentional. We are all human and we all make mistakes as certainly this was one for me.
Reality Check

Little Rock, AR

#25912 Jul 20, 2013
BARNEYII wrote:
<quoted text>
I unveiled my location for all you people who think Barney makes every pro Democrat statement on here. If you will notice those other people IP's are no where close to Saint Louis.
OMG' this is just to funny;
"liberals, ALWAYS have someone or something else to blame for what happens in their lives"
But yet;
your business is down because of President Obama.
Over 200,000 jobs were added in June, do I need to refresh your memory of who added the majority of those new hires.
SMALL BUSINESS
The first Quarter of this year 1,564,000 jobs were created. Not nearly enough, but when you consider the Republican leadership in the House and the Senate has made it very clear they want President Obama to fail, he has done a pretty damn good job of getting this country back to where it was prior to 2008.
Here are some tidbits from the BLS June jobs report that you so love to look at and reference.

In June, the number of long-term unemployed (those jobless for 27 weeks or more) was essentially
unchanged at 4.3 million. These individuals accounted for 36.7 percent of the unemployed. Unchanged means it's not getting better.

The civilian labor force participation rate, at 63.5 percent, and the employment-population ratio, at
58.7 percent, changed little in June. Over the year, the labor force participation rate is down by 0.3
percentage point. A lower percentage here means the overall picture is getting worse.

The number of persons employed part time for economic reasons (sometimes referred to as
involuntary part-time workers) increased by 322,000 to 8.2 million in June. These individuals were
working part time because their hours had been cut back or because they were unable to find a full-time
job. Here is the meat and potatoes of your 195K jobs added whether you want to admit it or not.

In June, 2.6 million persons were marginally attached to the labor force, essentially unchanged from a
year earlier. Again, shows things not getting better.

Among the marginally attached, there were 1.0 million discouraged workers in June, an increase of 206,000 from a year earlier. More signs that things are getting worse not better.

Total nonfarm payroll employment increased by 195,000 in June,(What's a little white lie by increasing the number to 200K) Better watch it before you go on calling someone else an intentional liar.

Federal government employment continued to trend down in June (-5,000) and has declined by 65,000
over the past 12 months. This is certainly a positive in my book but it goes against proponents of big government.

All things being said, the participation rate dropping thtoughout the year by 0.3% clearly shows that the Obama administration is simply distorting the employment picture by focusing on what sector added what jobs and not on the fact that there is simply people moving from the unemployment line to employment in an open job that pays while more people are being added to the numbers of those not participating. The 7.6% unemployment that Obama and you are so proud of is more a result of those leaving the workforce than anything else. You see Barn, you have to look at the WHOLE picture. Cherry picking only causes you to have some feel-good information as you bury your head in the sand.
John

Jonesboro, AR

#25913 Jul 20, 2013
Not sure what November 1999 has to do with anything besides the fact that it rhymed.

In November 1999 we had the best economy in the world, in November 2008 we had one of the worst.

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#25915 Jul 20, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
<quoted text>
I did research those numbers and I carelessly quit looking after 2011 as you pointed out. Had I seen the 2012 deficit numbers in my research, I would have gladly referenced them regardless of if they went against the point I was making. Believe me, having an average of over $1.3 trillion in deficit spending for three straight years is bad enough to overshadow a fourth year of over $1 trillion. As for knowing what one is talking about, I certainly give you the credit for knowing what you are talking about when it comes to political issues. I simply strongly disagree with whether it is right for our country and I question the ethics of the methods liberals use to get what they want in this country. If I tell a lie, it certainly is never intentional. We are all human and we all make mistakes as certainly this was one for me.
You are more fun than a barrel of monkeys.

If you take 9 and 3 would you agree that adds to 12 ?

I think a business owner like you would agree, lets say you do.

Now tell me what is wrong with this statement, after just telling me you stop at 2011.

" I did take the $1.4 trillion deficit in 2009 and the three consecutive $1.3 trillion deficits and carelessly quoted to $1.4 trillion without looking at the $1.089 trillion in deficit spending we had in 2012"

As I said, and you just proved, sad part you do it repeatedly.

You obviously did your research after the fact.

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#25916 Jul 20, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
<quoted text>
Here are some tidbits from the BLS June jobs report that you so love to look at and reference.
In June, the number of long-term unemployed (those jobless for 27 weeks or more) was essentially
unchanged at 4.3 million. These individuals accounted for 36.7 percent of the unemployed. Unchanged means it's not getting better.
The civilian labor force participation rate, at 63.5 percent, and the employment-population ratio, at
58.7 percent, changed little in June. Over the year, the labor force participation rate is down by 0.3
percentage point. A lower percentage here means the overall picture is getting worse.
The number of persons employed part time for economic reasons (sometimes referred to as
involuntary part-time workers) increased by 322,000 to 8.2 million in June. These individuals were
working part time because their hours had been cut back or because they were unable to find a full-time
job. Here is the meat and potatoes of your 195K jobs added whether you want to admit it or not.
In June, 2.6 million persons were marginally attached to the labor force, essentially unchanged from a
year earlier. Again, shows things not getting better.
Among the marginally attached, there were 1.0 million discouraged workers in June, an increase of 206,000 from a year earlier. More signs that things are getting worse not better.
Total nonfarm payroll employment increased by 195,000 in June,(What's a little white lie by increasing the number to 200K) Better watch it before you go on calling someone else an intentional liar.
Federal government employment continued to trend down in June (-5,000) and has declined by 65,000
over the past 12 months. This is certainly a positive in my book but it goes against proponents of big government.
All things being said, the participation rate dropping thtoughout the year by 0.3% clearly shows that the Obama administration is simply distorting the employment picture by focusing on what sector added what jobs and not on the fact that there is simply people moving from the unemployment line to employment in an open job that pays while more people are being added to the numbers of those not participating. The 7.6% unemployment that Obama and you are so proud of is more a result of those leaving the workforce than anything else. You see Barn, you have to look at the WHOLE picture. Cherry picking only causes you to have some feel-good information as you bury your head in the sand.
I already know this, because I read the page before I posted. You could have known it too, if you were like myself and a few million others, by placing your e-mail add. on their mailing list.
Reality Check

Little Rock, AR

#25917 Jul 20, 2013
BARNEYII wrote:
<quoted text>
You are more fun than a barrel of monkeys.
If you take 9 and 3 would you agree that adds to 12 ?
I think a business owner like you would agree, lets say you do.
Now tell me what is wrong with this statement, after just telling me you stop at 2011.
" I did take the $1.4 trillion deficit in 2009 and the three consecutive $1.3 trillion deficits and carelessly quoted to $1.4 trillion without looking at the $1.089 trillion in deficit spending we had in 2012"
As I said, and you just proved, sad part you do it repeatedly.
You obviously did your research after the fact.
After what "fact"? I've read it three times and I have no clue of where you are trying to get that I read it "after the fact". Can I please borrow your liberal glasses so I can see what you see? Sounds like you are just nit-picking. Maybe when you explain what your hangup is, I'll understand what you're talking about.
Fact

Blytheville, AR

#25918 Jul 20, 2013

Rally for Justice
For
Terrence Dawson
Date: Saturday 20, 2013
Time: 2:00pm
Across from police station (If rain at the library)
If any one in the community feel they have been a victim of any wrong doing do to the police, feel they have been harassed by police any or have had any of your Constitutional Rights, are Civil Rights Violated.
Please feel free to come out and express yourself and file a compaint. Petitions will be going around asking for the removal of:
Mayor James Sanders
Chief Ross Thompson
The termination of the two police officers invoved with the death of Terrence Dawson

WE ARE THE CITY AND OUR VOICES WILL BE HEARD!!!!!!!!!!
mary sue

Jonesboro, AR

#25919 Jul 20, 2013
What city?

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#25920 Jul 20, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
<quoted text>
After what "fact"? I've read it three times and I have no clue of where you are trying to get that I read it "after the fact". Can I please borrow your liberal glasses so I can see what you see? Sounds like you are just nit-picking. Maybe when you explain what your hangup is, I'll understand what you're talking about.
Post #25907 I did take the $1.4 trillion deficit in 2009 and the three consecutive $1.3 trillion deficits and carelessly quoted to $1.4 trillion without looking at the $1.089 trillion in deficit spending we had in 2012.

The third consecutive year after 2009 is 2012, contradicting yourself BTW.

Post # 25911 I did research those numbers and I carelessly quit looking after 2011 as you pointed out.

You just told me you took "the three consecutive $1.3 trillion deficits" after 09, that would be and including the year 2012 that you said you looked at in post #25907 and the year you did not look at in post #25911

Did that break it down for you?
Reality Check

Little Rock, AR

#25921 Jul 20, 2013
BARNEYII wrote:
<quoted text>
I already know this, because I read the page before I posted. You could have known it too, if you were like myself and a few million others, by placing your e-mail add. on their mailing list.
You know what I think of internet sources, especially if it's a government document. I also know what you think of the sources you cite. Let's call it selective lock-stock-and barrell. I was just pointing out that you neglected to tell the rest of the story on a source you cited. Telling the rest of the story dramatically changes how one may view the job Obama is doing on the jobs front. Your BLS report shows my view of the economy to be a whole lot closer than yours. Maybe liberal glasses are bifocals where you can only see what's in the bottom half of your viewing area.

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#25922 Jul 20, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
<quoted text>
You know what I think of internet sources, especially if it's a government document. I also know what you think of the sources you cite. Let's call it selective lock-stock-and barrell. I was just pointing out that you neglected to tell the rest of the story on a source you cited. Telling the rest of the story dramatically changes how one may view the job Obama is doing on the jobs front. Your BLS report shows my view of the economy to be a whole lot closer than yours. Maybe liberal glasses are bifocals where you can only see what's in the bottom half of your viewing area.
Read post #25900, I would say it was safe to say our views on the rate of the unemployed are very much inline.

"The first Quarter of this year 1,564,000 jobs were created. Not nearly enough"

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#25923 Jul 20, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
<quoted text>
You know what I think of internet sources, especially if it's a government document. I also know what you think of the sources you cite. Let's call it selective lock-stock-and barrell. I was just pointing out that you neglected to tell the rest of the story on a source you cited. Telling the rest of the story dramatically changes how one may view the job Obama is doing on the jobs front. Your BLS report shows my view of the economy to be a whole lot closer than yours. Maybe liberal glasses are bifocals where you can only see what's in the bottom half of your viewing area.
Tell me something, what story did the piece from the BLS tell about this post, the one you are referring to.

..........

"Over 200,000 jobs were added in June, do I need to refresh your memory of who added the majority of those new hires.

SMALL BUSINESS

END QUOTE

What part of the story did your post fill in on the point that small business created the majority of jobs added that month?
Reality Check

Little Rock, AR

#25924 Jul 20, 2013
BARNEYII wrote:
<quoted text>
Read post #25900, I would say it was safe to say our views on the rate of the unemployed are very much inline.
"The first Quarter of this year 1,564,000 jobs were created. Not nearly enough"
Your view: Not nearly enough
My view: Not one thing has changed only shifted positions.

I'd say we and not very much in line.
Reality Check

Little Rock, AR

#25925 Jul 20, 2013
BARNEYII wrote:
<quoted text>
Tell me something, what story did the piece from the BLS tell about this post, the one you are referring to.
..........
"Over 200,000 jobs were added in June, do I need to refresh your memory of who added the majority of those new hires.
SMALL BUSINESS
END QUOTE
What part of the story did your post fill in on the point that small business created the majority of jobs added that month?
The part about involuntary part time.
sherlock holmes

Ashburn, VA

#25926 Jul 21, 2013
Whew, Barn, you are quite the bumbling detective!
Going back pages to look through post after post after post after post after post.
Why, it appears you have more time on your hands than the rest of the posters here.
While everyone else is busy at their job, working hard to put food on the table, here you are...cutting, pasting, editing, researching, accusing, and babbling some sort of goofy and twisted response to anyone and everyone that differs from you!
I can certainly see why you are such a liberal! Gives you that leisure lifestyle to just sit around and point the finger at others with one hand, while waiting for your check with the other.
One thing about liberals...they got lots of time on their hands to complain about that disgruntled working middle class!
Nerves

Chicago, IL

#25927 Jul 21, 2013
This feed on my last nerve
Dont Know Nothing

Medford, OR

#25931 Jul 21, 2013
Reality Check wrote:
<quoted text>
When people don't have money they prioritize their purchases. Consequently, the first things to get dropped are frivolous purchases. If things keep getting worse, then even the purchases that are needed but not essential get cut. That is where we are as a society. Those who have savings accounts are cheapening the "extras" they buy by going to Wal Mart or other big outlets who sell less quality for slightly less price than quality. Those big outlets have the money to get things made specifically for them to sell at cheaper prices and American consumers mostly look at price and not quality. My business has seen declines of -8.35% from 2008-2009,-1.74% from 2009-2010,+1.20% from 2010-2011, and -4.78% from 2011-2012. The total loss in business since our high in 2008 is -13.22%. We are still a very healthy company but 13.22% is a significant loss in revenue. I talk to others who have businesses and they are either much worse off than me or in the same boat. I don't talk to anyone who is having a great year and I talk to alot of people. No offense, but I can tell from your posts that you don't really know how businesses, especially very small businesses work, you have probably listened to the news about this huge company or that huge company's strategy in a down economy or the very few success stories out there because there are companies that do well in this type of economy. Most big companies not only get revenue from sales of product but also get large chunks of capital from being publically traded. Companies like mine can't go public because we are too small. We have also changed our approach to business in these tough times to ensure that we can stay healthy.
Look, you can talk to whoever you want, but my advice is to talk to someone who knows what is going on and has a successful business. Seems to me since all you talk to are unsuccessful people then of course any business ideas they give you are also going to make your business unsuccessful. There are plenty of people living in Pocahontas who make very successful livings and have been in business for decades. Try talking to them. Fact is that, like I have stated before, I have helped open, start, and run businesses and even a couple there in that little town of yours and on the outskirts as well. Great business owners do not complain that their business is doing bad nor do they want individuals to know and take pity on them or take their business somewhere else because they sound incompetent. I live in a town where small businesses thrive and even franchises small and large are moving to the area. You cannot say that just because you live in a small town of 7k people with businesses moving out and families leaving that your business is doing bad because of Obama or because the economy is not thriving. Point is no one wants to stay in a town where they have no future and it may not be because you are an incompetent business owner, people are leaving so revenue will follow. The last person I need telling me how to run and open a successful business is an UNSUCCESSFUL business owner. Do not play games with individuals who know better. I can tell you your first bad business move was getting on here and running down your own business saying how bad it is doing. Think that does not matter? Tell that to those who actually know you and your business. There aren't that many privately own businesses in Pocahontas that can be singled out especially when you own a small consignment shop like you. Your approach has changed? How so? Because you just said your business was failing. Business strategy depends on understanding of the market around you and the revenue generated by the town, along with the demand of the product you are selling. Business decisions determine the outcome of the business and by the way you are groaning it sounds like you have made a few bad ones.
Reality Check

Lonoke, AR

#25932 Jul 21, 2013
Dont Know Nothing wrote:
<quoted text>Look, you can talk to whoever you want, but my advice is to talk to someone who knows what is going on and has a successful business. Seems to me since all you talk to are unsuccessful people then of course any business ideas they give you are also going to make your business unsuccessful. There are plenty of people living in Pocahontas who make very successful livings and have been in business for decades. Try talking to them. Fact is that, like I have stated before, I have helped open, start, and run businesses and even a couple there in that little town of yours and on the outskirts as well. Great business owners do not complain that their business is doing bad nor do they want individuals to know and take pity on them or take their business somewhere else because they sound incompetent. I live in a town where small businesses thrive and even franchises small and large are moving to the area. You cannot say that just because you live in a small town of 7k people with businesses moving out and families leaving that your business is doing bad because of Obama or because the economy is not thriving. Point is no one wants to stay in a town where they have no future and it may not be because you are an incompetent business owner, people are leaving so revenue will follow. The last person I need telling me how to run and open a successful business is an UNSUCCESSFUL business owner. Do not play games with individuals who know better. I can tell you your first bad business move was getting on here and running down your own business saying how bad it is doing. Think that does not matter? Tell that to those who actually know you and your business. There aren't that many privately own businesses in Pocahontas that can be singled out especially when you own a small consignment shop like you. Your approach has changed? How so? Because you just said your business was failing. Business strategy depends on understanding of the market around you and the revenue generated by the town, along with the demand of the product you are selling. Business decisions determine the outcome of the business and by the way you are groaning it sounds like you have made a few bad ones.
Another strong indicator that you have no idea what you are talking about and are more than likely, at the least, distorting the truth about your business experience. Certainly proof that you didn't even read my post. I don't run a consignment shop. In an economy where many businesses, big and small, have gone under, my business is quite healthy and I never said it wasn't. I simply stated that we have seen slight declines in business since Obama has been in office. We have never seen the people in our town have so little money. Every seasonal, monthly, or weekly trend that we used to see has gone haywire and completely unpredictable. I talk to my customers, like I always have, to see how their lives are. The one theme that is common in most all their stories is the shortage of money and how times are so tough. Business is doing fine so don't worry about me.
UR a Failure in Life

Mountain Home, AR

#25933 Jul 22, 2013
Dont Know Nothing wrote:
<quoted text>Look, you can talk to whoever you want, but my advice is to talk to someone who knows what is going on and has a successful business. Seems to me since all you talk to are unsuccessful people then of course any business ideas they give you are also going to make your business unsuccessful. There are plenty of people living in Pocahontas who make very successful livings and have been in business for decades. Try talking to them. Fact is that, like I have stated before, I have helped open, start, and run businesses and even a couple there in that little town of yours and on the outskirts as well. Great business owners do not complain that their business is doing bad nor do they want individuals to know and take pity on them or take their business somewhere else because they sound incompetent. I live in a town where small businesses thrive and even franchises small and large are moving to the area. You cannot say that just because you live in a small town of 7k people with businesses moving out and families leaving that your business is doing bad because of Obama or because the economy is not thriving. Point is no one wants to stay in a town where they have no future and it may not be because you are an incompetent business owner, people are leaving so revenue will follow. The last person I need telling me how to run and open a successful business is an UNSUCCESSFUL business owner. Do not play games with individuals who know better. I can tell you your first bad business move was getting on here and running down your own business saying how bad it is doing. Think that does not matter? Tell that to those who actually know you and your business. There aren't that many privately own businesses in Pocahontas that can be singled out especially when you own a small consignment shop like you. Your approach has changed? How so? Because you just said your business was failing. Business strategy depends on understanding of the market around you and the revenue generated by the town, along with the demand of the product you are selling. Business decisions determine the outcome of the business and by the way you are groaning it sounds like you have made a few bad ones.
All this from a Woman that about a Year ago was begging for free furniture.
We all know that you are an Obama supporter and a welfare queen.
You basically got run out of Arkansas and now are working to have the same thing done to you in Oregon.
No one here believes your story about any successful business you have had or helped.
Your claim might be that you worked at Mickey D's.
The previous poster never said what business they owned or did they ever imply that the business was a failure or than it was unhealthy.
You need to get a life and spread your ignorance elsewhere!

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#25935 Jul 22, 2013
sherlock holmes wrote:
Whew, Barn, you are quite the bumbling detective!
Going back pages to look through post after post after post after post after post.
Why, it appears you have more time on your hands than the rest of the posters here.
While everyone else is busy at their job, working hard to put food on the table, here you are...cutting, pasting, editing, researching, accusing, and babbling some sort of goofy and twisted response to anyone and everyone that differs from you!
I can certainly see why you are such a liberal! Gives you that leisure lifestyle to just sit around and point the finger at others with one hand, while waiting for your check with the other.
One thing about liberals...they got lots of time on their hands to complain about that disgruntled working middle class!
Someone must have typed that post for you then.

Because you would have been way busy at your job, working hard to put food on the table, instead of taking the time to post on Topix.

We know you are busy working away at your job, lord only knows a dumb ass would use a Straw man to attempt to wipe the egg from his face, and then do what he is accusing someone else of doing.

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