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Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage

There are 201878 comments on the www.cnn.com story from Aug 4, 2010, titled Judge overturns California's ban on same-sex marriage. In it, www.cnn.com reports that:

A federal judge in California has knocked down the state's voter-approved ban on same-sex marriage, ruling Wednesday that the state's controversial Proposition 8 violates the U.S. Constitution.

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Dan

Sacramento, CA

#148949 Jul 6, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
Or how bout you leave here if I can show you the studies? Come on dan, are u looking it up now, are u looking more like a bigger fool then u already are? LOL...!!!
Just waiting for you to back your claims Ricky. Like always. You make a lot of claims but never seem to have much in the way of proof.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

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#148950 Jul 6, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
At the same time you try to equate absolute sterility with the natural end of fertility with diverse couples WHO MOST LIKELY HAVE ALREADY PRODUCED CHILDREN!
Where did this "equating" occur. Specific post number please.

Waiting....

Waiting....

Waiting....

Oh, and put your crystal ball away. There are pleny of straight people that choose not to, or physically cant have children. Capitalizing your made up lies doens't turn them into truths.

Procreation will never be a valid argument here. Until a mandate exists, its just a fallback for people like you that like to whine about progress.

But please, don't let that stop you from brining it up again. We can all use a good laugh.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#148951 Jul 6, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
I know you've been over this with me before.
I just have a problem with < 4% telling 96% that their historic, cross cultural relationship is dumbed down to 'two people in a relationship'.
Yeah, bigot whites said the same thing. How'd that work out for them when blacks were able to have federally recongnized marriages?!!

Using specifics, please present actual examples of this dumbing down that your marriage has experienced since I married my husband.

Who was dumbed down more, you or your spouse?

Give us the top 5.

Waiting....

Waiting....

Waiting....
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Nor do I hold your above opinion (and that is all it is) that involves absolutely no direct explanation of why the numerous distinct elements of marriage are no longer important, as highly as you do.
If you care to explain why those distinctions are no longer, important instead of arrogantly brushing them aside, then we can have a adult conversation.
Smile.
You will first need to demonstrate these "elements" with specifics. Then you will need to demonstrate how we gays make them no longer important.

Let us know when you can do that. Cause right now you just sound like a dimestore corner religitard with their tracts and bad shoes.
Anonymous

Vallejo, CA

#148952 Jul 6, 2012
Not on Google: Yesterday the German Parliament voted 309 to 260 to reject same-sex marriage. Germany already observes 'civil unions'.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#148953 Jul 6, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Been married 36 years. I EVEN HAVE NUMEROUS COMMITTED SS RELATIONSHIPS!!!
Since 96% of marriages involve children, it is really a stretch for me to have a sterile relationship deem procreation unimportant. I think even YOUR mom and dad would agree. But maybe not...
You must have missed this;
If you
believe denying marriage to a relationship
will prevent love
If you
demand any committed relationship
has to be called marriage
If you
claim rights and benefits can only be acquired
by a imposition on marriage
If you
equate the diversity of two genders
with the redundancy of same genders
If you
desecrate the sacred tradition of all major religions
and violate the historic practice of every single culture in history
If you
believe a fundamental change to the building block of society
will have absolutely no affect
If you
think a law can change
the reality of crucial distinctions in relationships
If you
pretend duplicating sexuality
is the same as blending masculinity and femininity
If you
condemn some children to parents of only one gender
and deliberately deny some children one natural parent
If you
ignore the design of sexual union
to manipulate a harmful act
If you
violate evolution's law of reproduction
to equate a genetic dead end
If you
risk the healthiest human relationship
to include one of the unhealthiest
If you
parallel the sole birthplace of every other relationship
with one that can reproduce none
If you
dilute all these things
down to just 'a committed relationship of two people'
Then, and only then, can you equate same-sex unions with marriage.
TRANSLATION: "I still got nothing, and I still like lying by making up statistics."

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#148954 Jul 6, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Since 96% of marriages involve children, it is really a stretch for me to have a sterile relationship deem procreation unimportant.
No one gives a rat's patoot what consitutes a stretch for you. No matter how many times it "stretches" you, the bottom line is, and always will be...marriage does not and never will have a mandate for procreation. Doesn't matter if 99.99999999999999999951% of marriages produce children. It IS, and ALWAYS WILL be, irrelevant to whether marriage is extended to a couple.

But don't let that stop you from continuing to demonstrate what a complete assclown you are.
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
I think even YOUR mom and dad would agree.
ONLY a f*cked up relitard would dare to presume that they have greater insight into someone else's parent's thoughts and beliefs then the children do.

Of all the gall. Your hubris is unbelievable. What a true human wretch you are.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#148955 Jul 6, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
I think even YOUR mom and dad would agree.
I'm more than happy to present some of your posts to MY parent's KiMare, and I'd be more than happy to share their responses with you and the room. Let me know if you are truly interested in other parent's opinions or not, or if your interested is solely in making them up for the benefit of promoting your agenda.

Your god has a name for behavior like that. And he talks about what he thinks of that behavior in Proverbs 6:16-19. You might want to give it a read you cow.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#148956 Jul 6, 2012
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
1. Have you read the social health statistics for children of single parents. They use the word condemn to describe the consequence.
2. Every situation with children is surrounded by both genders. You are trying to assert that all those people around gay couples equate to a father and mother??? Really. I think homosexuals are special, but that is pushing it kind of far...
First you dumb down marriage to 'two people in a relationship', and now you want to make any male a father, and any female a mother??? Next you are going to tell me any gender can be a mother or a father... damn I hope I'm not giving a idiot a 'idea'...
Are you related to Prof Marveless? You both seem to enjoy baseless repetition. Well, but then it is the sin qua non of idiots, so that would explain a lot.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#148957 Jul 6, 2012
KiMare wrote:
KiMare wrote:
<quoted text>
Been married 36 years. Since 96% of marriages involve children...
<quoted text>
Or...
I have no reason to lie about my marriage and commonsense validates procreation in marriage. That is why you try so silly stupid to remove it as a part of marriage.
Smile.
Common sense does NOT validate 96%. Not that it matters. Until there is a mandate for procreation, it's just more of you shytin in the wind. You got nothing.
Dan

Sacramento, CA

#148958 Jul 6, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
Or how bout you leave here if I can show you the studies? Come on dan, are u looking it up now, are u looking more like a bigger fool then u already are? LOL...!!!
Hey Ricky,

I'v e got to go to 'FastSigns' in your backyard and be there at 3:00 to pick up some material. 9117 E. Stockton Blvd. ELK GROVE, California!!!

Just letting you know so if you get all balled up again only to threaten me there I'll be. And with a limp!!! My broken toe still hasn't healed.

And I'm TIRED. Me and the wife came home late last night.

Hell, I'll be easy prey you Billy Badass you. A ten year old schoolkid mad he ran out of Captain Crunch cereal this morning could probably take me out today leaving an open road for you to do the same. And I can't run away....it'll be like hunting a 3 legged one eyed deer in a rodeo enclosure for you Bruce Lee reincarnated.

Shit Ricky....drink your protein shake, pump yourself up and back up your claim to put me in my place in person like you did. I'll be there in not only Technicolor but in 3-D and within distance of a Louisville Slugger should you find yourself a little nervous.

LOL!!!

Yeah, I know. Once you realized the shit you were in by threatening a person who lived in your same neck of the woods it made it a little tougher to back up your tough guy stance of teaching them a lesson in person. Don't sweat it, I know you're a pussy and will be looking for you like I'd look for a polar bear in the depth of the Amazon forest.
Dan

Sacramento, CA

#148959 Jul 6, 2012
Anonymous wrote:
Not on Google: Yesterday the German Parliament voted 309 to 260 to reject same-sex marriage. Germany already observes 'civil unions'.
Did they now.

And no link.

Here's one to chew on Ace....we're not in Germany.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#148960 Jul 6, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
You just threw up links showing hets can be pedos too then began yelling you're old lame refrain -- "Straights do it too! Straights do it too!"
Actually Shyt4Brains, that wasn't what was said. But since deceit and lies are all you have, that's how you spin it.

No one ever stated "straights do it too". What was stated, was that attempting to categorize an entire sect of people based on the actions of one or a few, does not allow for common sense.
But then, we all know how common sense goes out the window when you are stupidly promoting your massresistence and CFTTAH rhetorical talking points.
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure, straights do it too -- the difference is straights are not going around telling everybody heterosexuality and pedophilia can't coexist the way you're going around telling everybody homosexuality and pedophilia can't coexist.
Grasp the distinction now?
No, no one is grasping the distinction, because everyone here, INCLUDING YOU, know that no one ever stated that homosexuality and pedophila can't coexist. NO ONE. You just need to pretend that someone has, so that you can continue ranting.

Lies and deceit are all you have. That's why you fail in here to convince anyone of anything, and it's why you are a failed author.
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
Now will you admit catholic priests who have sex with boys are homosexual?
Sure, I'll be happy to. I'll also be happy to state that based on statistical data, the majority of them are not though. Now, hurry back and misreperent my statements. Come on child. It's "Spread the Deceit Friday" and the Mulatto Queen appointed you head Shyt Spreader.

“Yellow Brick Road”

Since: Mar 12

The Land of OZ

#148961 Jul 6, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, pedophilia exists in the heterosexuality community which is wwy we avoid putting males in charge of young girls. But you're telling is we need not take the same precautions with gay males because when they do pedophilia it doesn't have a homosexual component. For example, you want us to believe when Catholic priests abuse youth it's just coincidental the youth are boys -- that if they had access to girls, it would be girls.
We also want us to believe gay Scout Masters are no more inclined to sexually abuse boys than hetero Scout Masters.
In other words, you're not dealing with truth, you're dealing with damage-control, misrepresentation, and public relations.
When presented with evidence such as gay males handing out The Little Black Book to runaways as young as 14, you're not seeing that as predation, you call it sex education.
And finally, when presented with the damning case of Larry Brinkin you're not offering up any practicable answer for why it isn't an indictment of homosexuality, you're just saying what you always say, "Pay it no mind because -- straights do it too!"
You see dummy, pedophilia has no specific sex. My point was dummy there are far more heterosexual pedophiles than homosexual. Yet you NEVER mention the heterosexuals. WHY is that??
Does it not bother you that 77% of all pedophiles are married heterosexuals that claim to be christian?

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#148962 Jul 6, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
Give me a break.
In a dozen states in Mexico the age of consent is 12 years old. Even here in the USA it's 14 in at least two states. Your self-serving attempt to distance Catholic priests from gay males fools no one; moreover, it's not supported by medical science -- nowhere is it said male-to-male sex isn't homosexuality when one of the actors is "below the age of consent."
Yes, actually that IS said. In many places. Medical Science disagrees with your statement above. Medical Science has already concurred that one's "pedophilic" orientation, and one's "sexual" orientation are not necessary tied to the same gender. This has been pointed out to you on NUMEROUS occasions Gary. But like the lying, deceitful moron that you are, you just think if you keep pretending otherwise, that you will somehow magically produce proof.

You are no different then a child sticking its fingers in its ears, and yelling, "lalalalalalalalalalalala la".

The majority of adult males that victimize male children, are straight men. That's a FACT Gary. One you can ignore to your heart's content. But your ignoring doesn't alter its reality. Acts against children, just like rape, are acts of power, not sexual desire. The psychological process which drives one does not drive the other. They may match, they may not.

http://www.mayoclinicproceedings.org/article/... (11)61074-4/fulltext#cesec20

"Pedophiles are usually attracted to a particular age range and/or sex of child. Research categorizes male pedophiles by whether they are attracted to only male children (homosexual PEDOPHILIA), female children (heterosexual PEDOPHILIA), or children from both sexes (bisexual PEDOPHILIA). The percentage of homosexual pedophiles ranges from 9% to 40%, which is approximately 4 to 20 times higher than the rate of adult men attracted to other adult men (using a prevalence rate of adult homosexuality of 2%-4%). This finding DOES NOT IMPLY that homosexuals are more likely to molest children, just that a larger percentage of pedophiles are homosexual or bisexual IN ORIENTATION TO CHILDREN."

Despite your claims otherwise Gary, Medical Science DOES claim that PEDOPHILIA has it's OWN, UNIQUE gender orientation.

Sucks to be a lying POS like you I guess.

“Crusading Fundies r hilarious!”

Since: Feb 11

Location hidden

#148963 Jul 6, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
Yes, pedophilia exists in the heterosexuality community which is wwy we avoid putting males in charge of young girls. But you're telling is we need not take the same precautions with gay males because when they do pedophilia it doesn't have a homosexual component. For example, you want us to believe when Catholic priests abuse youth it's just coincidental the youth are boys -- that if they had access to girls, it would be girls.
We also want us to believe gay Scout Masters are no more inclined to sexually abuse boys than hetero Scout Masters.
In other words, you're not dealing with truth, you're dealing with damage-control, misrepresentation, and public relations.
When presented with evidence such as gay males handing out The Little Black Book to runaways as young as 14, you're not seeing that as predation, you call it sex education.
And finally, when presented with the damning case of Larry Brinkin you're not offering up any practicable answer for why it isn't an indictment of homosexuality, you're just saying what you always say, "Pay it no mind because -- straights do it too!"
Baseless repetition is the sin qua non of idiots and failed authors.

“Yellow Brick Road”

Since: Mar 12

The Land of OZ

#148965 Jul 6, 2012
RiccardoFire wrote:
<quoted text>Jack, how's the heat and all the shootings doing in your wonderful area? It's great out west! You should visit a donut shop, they have a lot of old people sitting around talking about stories and what people did. It's a sad world. You have quoted the Bible, but if I take a sentence out of a Jack London book, will that explain anything? Have you ever read a book jack? Now you know why you failed on those book reports, you have to read the whole, not just a word or 2. Good luck jack.
Yep its hot, as it has been all week. And this winter it will be cold. Yep the heat makes people crazy, yep they start shooting each other. Perhaps we need to get rid of all hand guns. Now Lucy I have most likely read the bible more times than you have. There is one major difference, you just read the parts that make you feel warm and fuzzy inside. I read it from cover to cover, every disgusting story that is filled with murder, genocide, rape, incest, lust, polygamy, mysoginy and outright discrimination, you know the bible, the word of god.

“Yellow Brick Road”

Since: Mar 12

The Land of OZ

#148967 Jul 6, 2012
RiversideRedneck wrote:
<quoted text>
OK then.... You're trying to call me dumb while you write "go hunntin and kill somefen fer supper and leaf the runnin of the contry to them adultes........
I mean, c'mon, I can understand a typo here & there, but that was just plain re-fucking-tarded.
I'm sorry that mama didn't teach you any better, oh wait you probably had 2 dads...
Well feller I was justa usin yer version of American. I did not want to use no big werds kause it might set you to back a might. Ya kno make yer head hurt kause you aint to all fired smart. Waats fer supper road kill stew?
Republican newsmakers

La Puente, CA

#148969 Jul 6, 2012
Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
Johnny Gosch

Gwinn, MI

#148972 Jul 6, 2012
Republican newsmakers wrote:
Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.
Spitfire List | FTR #318 Kidding Around: Child Molestation and ...
Aug 5, 2001 ... The allegations contained in The Franklin Cover-Up put the concept of ...“Mayor
Philip A. Giordano of Waterbury, who lost a long-shot bid last ...

http://spitfirelist.com/for-the-record/ftr-31... - 69k -

“Yellow Brick Road”

Since: Mar 12

The Land of OZ

#148973 Jul 6, 2012
Prof Marvel wrote:
<quoted text>
Give me a break.
In a dozen states in Mexico the age of consent is 12 years old. Even here in the USA it's 14 in at least two states. Your self-serving attempt to distance Catholic priests from gay males fools no one; moreover, it's not supported by medical science -- nowhere is it said male-to-male sex isn't homosexuality when one of the actors is "below the age of consent."
So stop with the bath house junk science, Okay?
Either provide valid cites or save your opinion for your next post-gay pride parade orgy.
So you think its appropriate for a grown man to marry a 12 or 14 year old girl? That is just flucking sick! What in the hell is wrong with you? My god cant you at least wait for them to finish middle school ya sick freak. If I had my way sick freaks like you would be tied to a pole and then have every single poor girl that you molested hit you on the nut sack with a baseball bat. Their mothers should be allowed to shove a cattle prod up your azz and the fathers given twenty five minutes alone with you in a sound proof room, where they can then beat you with in a breath of your lousy stinking perverted life.
But alas I will have to live with the knowledge that when you are in prison, you will be someones biotch. Its my hope that the guy is hung like a damn horse, and don't like to use manglide.

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