None of us is safe from police raids

None of us is safe from police raids

There are 170 comments on the Baltimore Sun story from Sep 2, 2008, titled None of us is safe from police raids. In it, Baltimore Sun reports that:

Coming home one night in late July, you find on your front porch a large package that, unbeknownst to you, happens to contain a lot of marijuana.

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Donna Jean

AOL

#163 Sep 26, 2008
Charles wrote:
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I have to give the NYPD some credit. They actually admitted that the lieutenant who ordered the TASERing violated official department procedures. Let's see if they do anything about it.
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It will be interesting to see what happens here.

So it seems that there are official procedures for TASER use in this police department. I wonder what official procedures there are for SWAT raids in this police department and all the other police departments in the country. Are there any violations of department procedures when SWAT botches a raid and kills or maims innocent people? Or do these victims just fall under the category of "Collateral Damage"?
Donna Jean

AOL

#164 Sep 26, 2008
Surf52 wrote:
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If you break down my door unannounced and shoot my dog, you probably will encounter hostile fire.
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And that's what anyone who has their home attacked would do. It's a perfectly reasonable position to take.
However,even if you survived the hail of bullets that were then fired at you, you would be arrested and charged with assaulting an officer.(even though you didn't know it was the police)
Then you would get a bogus trial and an unjust verdict and be sent to prison. It happens all the time. Even though you were right. Sad isn't it?
Donna Jean

AOL

#165 Sep 27, 2008
A story about an officer who is a REAL hero.

A few days ago in the Washington, DC area an officer stopped a vehicle for some traffic violation. When the officer approached the vehicle the driver shot him in the chest. The officer, thank God, survived with only some flesh wounds to his chest. He had a bullet proof vest on and he also had a Kevlar piece covering his heart area.(In this officer's department, wearing the Kevlar is optional...I'm so glad he chose to wear it.) For me, this cop is the one who is REALLY brave, the one who is out there on the street exposed to terrible danger every day. The SWAT guys who attack small time offenders and the innocent/wrong people in their homes, they are not brave or heroic at all. They don their full battle gear and go raging into someone's private home as if the security of the nation were at stake. And in this full battle gear and with high powered arms and their handy flash bang/stun grenades they shock and disorient the occupants of the home and then kill them if they move the wrong way. All because these fully battle-attired heroes are in fear for THEIR lives. If it weren't so tragic it would be laughable.
What the F

Bismarck, ND

#166 Nov 13, 2008
Almost everyone on this seems to have so many problems with the Police and that they carry guns and hurt innocent people all day and blah blah....Instead of bitching why aren't any of you giving better ideas of how to run the police or solve the problems with the world and violence so that we can all hug and no one gets hurt. Violent crimes are not going away! Drugs and alcohol are huge problems and cause violence whether they are illegal or legal! Maybe the next time something bad (rape, suicide, murder, domestic violence, and so on) is going on next door to your home, at your home, or in the community, don't call 911 for help...just go over unarmed (or armed it really don't matter) and solve the problem yourself. Do this a few times and then post the ignorant bullsh*t and defend what you did and how much better or enlightened you are when the shit hits the fan. By generalizing about the "police" and that they are thugs and whatever else...is just another form of racism and ignorance. "The Police" come from all backgrounds, races and religions...just like everyone else in this world. People are complicated, unfair and ever changing (it called being human)....deal with it because its not going anywhere.
laborer

United States

#167 Nov 13, 2008
Matt wrote:
A great piece. I agree with the second comment--it's shameful that the vicitmization of a white mayor was necessary to bring it to light. Some of us (those who are non-white and poor) are at more risk. But none of us are safe.
People should learn how to use the Administrative Procedures Act when arrested. The APA governs government agencies. Consequently the APA requires that the agency which enforces marijuana laws to conduct a agency hearing and issue a final order before a judical court can be convened. A judical court sits in review of an agency final order. In other words if the prosecutor has not presented an agency final order in front of the court to review the court lacks subject matter jurisdiction (a final agency order to review) to proceed. A Trial Rule 12(b)motion to dismiss for lack of subject matter jurisdiction should suffice. For more info contact me at [email protected]
Eowyn K Allen

Chandler, AZ

#168 Nov 15, 2008
I just happened to search for my brother's obituary, and came across this posting. I have a vast amount to say about this, but whole libraries cannot account for my thoughts and feelings about this experience, so I will keep this as concise as possible.
You are referring to MY brother based on views that are intensely ignorant, so please allow me to enlighten you, Donna Jean. It does not matter whether not there were 1000 pounds of marijuana present--my brother did not deserve to be murdered for that.
It's easy for you to laugh and mock, when you're not the one who got the call. You're not the one who had to wake up the rest of your family that morning to tell them the news, and you certainly cannot imagine what it's like to have to wake your mother that morning, sit on the edge of her bed, and explain to her that her son, your brother, has been shot to death.
You will also never know what it's like to arrive on the scene, and see several police officers laughing and joking about it. You cannot imagine having to clean pools of his blood off the floor after the police release the house to you. You didn't have to sort through the wreckage that was left in that house for several months afterward, and you didn't have to wait 6 months for a 301 page report that has absolutely no answers.
It wasn't your 90 year-old grandmother that was thrown to the ground, handcuffed, and drug out of the house. You didn't have to spend the next seveal days with her in the V.A. hospital, and see the black bruises on her arms, her red horror-stricken eyes, the tears and mucus covering her face, the piles of wadded Kleenex beside her, the shock and trauma in her voice. You didn't have to know that the last 2 years of her life would be completely devastated because of this event. She was a WWII veteran, and a wonderful, strong woman.
You didn't have to see the house you grew up in torn apart by the police--they literally tore the front door off the hinges, and tore holes in the walls. You have not had to live with the grief for the past 6 years, and the knowledge that your brother was murdered, and the muderers are still out there and will not be punished for their abuses.
I deal with people like you every day. Sure, you're happy to break a few eggs, so long as no one so much as cracks one of yours. Pray that this never happens to you, because I guarantee you'll change your tune, as most ignorant people do when confronted with actual experiene. I forgive you for your ignorance, because, as stated above, you cannot possibly understand what it's like to go through this horror, and you are obviously unwilling to even try to understand. I truly pity you.
Eowyn K Allen

Chandler, AZ

#169 Nov 15, 2008
My apologies, Donna Jean, the above posting is directed to "plerthrom", not you. I realized that I had taken the wrong name from the comments on this. Please insert "plerthrom" wherever you see "Donna Jean" in my original posting.
jim suttles

Fort Mohave, AZ

#170 Nov 23, 2008
Aren't these thug cops made an example of yet? Such tactics will not be tolerated any longer? It needs to stop; the legal system needs to start making attempts at being a justice system. The United States has made changes through illegal means in the past. I hope this kind of thing doesn't make that neccessary. I hope that some people will start doing the right thing.
jim suttles

Fort Mohave, AZ

#171 Nov 23, 2008
laborer wrote:
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People should learn how to use the Administrative Procedures Act when arrested. The APA governs government agencies. Consequently the APA requires that the agency which enforces marijuana laws to conduct a agency hearing and issue a final order before a judical court can be convened. A judical court sits in review of an agency final order. In other words if the prosecutor has not presented an agency final order in front of the court to review the court lacks subject matter jurisdiction (a final agency order to review) to proceed. A Trial Rule 12(b)motion to dismiss for lack of subject matter jurisdiction should suffice. For more info contact me at [email protected]
Way ahead of you. If someone in my home is being attacked I will not call 911. But What the F, if you're being raped; go ahead and call 911. What a dumb F.
Josh Neel

Silver Spring, MD

#172 Dec 3, 2012
lol i love how i just randomly happened to come across this while searching for the laws dealing with crooked cops. i live in berwyn heights. and have all my life. this happened to calvo and trinity that one time. how do you think it is for us everyday people that live here? less than a week ago my house was robbed and the 2 bh cops that arrived on the sceene just smiled and laughed most of the time. ignowski wouldnt drop his smirk, and krouss' had an attitude as soon as he hopped out his cruiser. makeing gestures towards saying im tryna commit fraud by claiming i was robbed when i actually wasnt??? or him asking if i had filed my taxes because he believes im evading taxes because i had $1000 worth of electronics???? and on top of that they are now saying they have enough probable cause to attain a search warrant on my house??? AND my house was raided by pg feds on may 29 2012 already for "stolen electronics" of which none were found all they did was arrest a friend for nothing and smack me with a pistol. media doesnt see a damn thing that really goes on nowadays. im 20 years old now. and this shit has been going on my entire life. any time i have ever called the cops they have turned around and tried to arrest me. AND NOT ONCE HAVE I BEEN INCARCERATED!! if you think calvo's incident was some sort of crazy once in a lifetime occurance, then more than likely you are being denied of your rights more than you realize every day.

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