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His voice captured on a jailhouse phone recorder last March, a young man told his girlfriend that he had messed up and "killed somebody" the night that 17-year-old Humberto "Beto" Padilla Jr.

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heated w the issue

Vacaville, CA

#1 Sep 25, 2010
their all liars, they are all gang related. f***ing liars nobody made them come here. adults need to be responsible. you did what you did and you need to pay. nobody made you pull the trigger. that was all gang related. it say's he asked you norte? he said yes and they shot, that's usually what happens between rival gangs. this should be a lesson for parent to give better guidance to their children. regardless of what people say, EVERYONE involved was gang related... look at their myspaces, and talk to school officials. the truth will come out in the end, no innocent person was involved in this case
Vacan

San Francisco, CA

#2 Sep 25, 2010
Ohhh You were there!

Are you stupid..... You can give your children guidance, it is not a 100 percent deterrent from them having issues.

As a responsible parent you try and teach your children how to be a reponsible human being and make right choices and be involved with them as much as possible but... IT IS NOT a 100 percent guanatee that when teens leave your house they WILL ALWAYS make the right decisions about their surrounding, friends and situation that they face out in the world.

The only way you can say Everyone involved is Gang related is IF YOU KNOW THEM ALL PERSONALLY, which include the victims who were shot and the shooters.

I was at a City Community forum when a Police Chief (at that time)was asked by community members, what the PD would do to address all the gang issues... He was very smart to point out there are lots of smaller kids that are WANNABE's and there are TRUE hardcore Gang members. The problem is that when young kids emulate What they "think" are True OG gangsters are... they put themselves at risk of being hurt..... and bring on a lot of SUFFERING for their families as well. Kids to young to know the TRUE reality of what they are getting themselves and their families into and the TRUE cost of their actions.
Pinko

Sebastopol, CA

#3 Sep 25, 2010
Mr. Ortega
If you want to be a good 'gansta' learn to keep your mouth shut. There is no expectation of privacy when you're in jail. Thanks for being stupid Mr. Ortega, now confess, cut a deal with the DA, sell out your homies and save the taxpayers some money.
wow

Sacramento, CA

#4 Sep 25, 2010
and if they really cared about the safety of the witnesses and knowing how gangs are why the fu** wud the yput names???vv pd is so dumb
Vacan

Edmond, OK

#5 Sep 25, 2010
CONTINUED......

In this case.... from what the testimony said the kid that got jumped and sent his family out to retaliate should also be charged because he conspired with the shooters for revenge and the kid that shouted out "Rocky Hill Posse" is also responsible for being a stupid Kid mouthing off and ultimately getting himself and his friend shot.
That kids Parents... if he in fact responded that way.... Should tell him, "Pendejo, Que Chigados estas deciendo...(Ahora saca el Cinto and Chingatelo por meterse in chingaderas que no sabe)

The shooter and his accomplices were absoluetly stupid Jack a$&#$ because they were grown ass men responding to kids fist fighting with guns. If that is not a PUNK move....I don't what is. Three guys trying to come up and punk little teenagers.... that is a coward move. And now what? The original kid that got jumped by who knows who is what? Free! While all these various peoples lives have been... what? Destroyed and changed forever. When he got jumped he should have reported it to the cops. What a Pinche Shame!Triste... Muy Triste para las families de todos!

A life is a life....It may not mean much to you, but these people meant something to somebody!

Mensaje a MIS Chicanos:
Enseniense limpiarse las cola antes de cometer sus chigaderas Y destruir sus familias!Por que eso es loque estan haciendo.. Martar a sus familias con sus abagancias and idioteses. Mientras que sus madres estan resando todas las noches a la Virgensita para sus salvaciones de la mala vida y que regresen a ser buenos hijitos y hijitas que antes eran! Educanse para una Vida Buena! Solamente asi levantan y mejoran la vida de sus padres y de sus Gente! Que No quieren que sus padres sientan orgullo de ustedes? Es el mejor sentimiento saber que nuestros padres sienten orgullo y no verguensa por nosostros!Cuando estan de pendejos en las calles de vagos y regresan... miren muy bien las caras de sus padres...por que con cualquier eror, tal vez nunca los miran jamas o con todo el stress y precuparse por ustedes tal vez eso mismo los mante...La precupacion tambien acaba con la gente.

Chicano Genocide.. es la destrucion de nuestra gente. Pinches Vendidos!

Motto Chicano:
En lach Ech (Nahuatle) TU ERES MI OTRO Yo! Odiarte y Matarte es Odiar y Matar Me Mismo!

If you don't know.... NOW YOU KNOW!
nowUknow

Vacaville, CA

#6 Sep 25, 2010
actually if you would like to know... the guy didn't call his cousin to retaliate, he has already spoke to detectives, his cousin is a liar, he was not told to come by his "younger cousin". his dumb *** took it upon himself to come. this is so stupid. Mr. ortega was trying to be a big bad Sureno and doidn't realize what he would cause. nobody made him come here from Fairfield. and the cousin wwasn't even around when ortega's dumb ass came to vacaville
nowUknow

Vacaville, CA

#7 Sep 25, 2010
Vacan wrote:
CONTINUED......
In this case.... from what the testimony said the kid that got jumped and sent his family out to retaliate should also be charged because he conspired with the shooters for revenge and the kid that shouted out "Rocky Hill Posse" is also responsible for being a stupid Kid mouthing off and ultimately getting himself and his friend shot.
That kids Parents... if he in fact responded that way.... Should tell him, "Pendejo, Que Chigados estas deciendo...(Ahora saca el Cinto and Chingatelo por meterse in chingaderas que no sabe)
The shooter and his accomplices were absoluetly stupid Jack a$&#$ because they were grown **** men responding to kids fist fighting with guns. If that is not a PUNK move....I don't what is. Three guys trying to come up and punk little teenagers.... that is a coward move. And now what? The original kid that got jumped by who knows who is what? Free! While all these various peoples lives have been... what? Destroyed and changed forever. When he got jumped he should have reported it to the cops. What a Pinche Shame!Triste... Muy Triste para las families de todos!
A life is a life....It may not mean much to you, but these people meant something to somebody!
Mensaje a MIS Chicanos:
Enseniense limpiarse las cola antes de cometer sus chigaderas Y destruir sus familias!Por que eso es loque estan haciendo.. Martar a sus familias con sus abagancias and idioteses. Mientras que sus madres estan resando todas las noches a la Virgensita para sus salvaciones de la mala vida y que regresen a ser buenos hijitos y hijitas que antes eran! Educanse para una Vida Buena! Solamente asi levantan y mejoran la vida de sus padres y de sus Gente! Que No quieren que sus padres sientan orgullo de ustedes? Es el mejor sentimiento saber que nuestros padres sienten orgullo y no verguensa por nosostros!Cuando estan de pendejos en las calles de vagos y regresan... miren muy bien las caras de sus padres...por que con cualquier eror, tal vez nunca los miran jamas o con todo el stress y precuparse por ustedes tal vez eso mismo los mante...La precupacion tambien acaba con la gente.
Chicano Genocide.. es la destrucion de nuestra gente. Pinches Vendidos!
Motto Chicano:
En lach Ech (Nahuatle) TU ERES MI OTRO Yo! Odiarte y Matarte es Odiar y Matar Me Mismo!
If you don't know.... NOW YOU KNOW!
you don't know the story s por eso q usted no entiende, ya hablaron con el muchachito que es primo de el senor ortega, los ditectives saben que el no lo mando a matar a nadie, por eso no lo arestaron. ortega es un nino tratando de aser gangster grande. porfavor le rego que no ace comentarios d lo que usted no save.
nowUknow

Vacaville, CA

#8 Sep 25, 2010
Pinko wrote:
Mr. Ortega
If you want to be a good 'gansta' learn to keep your mouth shut. There is no expectation of privacy when you're in jail. Thanks for being stupid Mr. Ortega, now confess, cut a deal with the DA, sell out your homies and save the taxpayers some money.
that would be nice... since california money is not right. we can't afford to pay our taxes on dumb *** wanabees that weren't taught right from wrong.
nowUknow

Vacaville, CA

#9 Sep 25, 2010
claro que esta libre. el no iso nada. ni pidio que eyos se vineron aca. usted no save d que habla. no es bien lo que isieron pero nadie los trajo aca. eyos vineron solos. y en pandillas no ay edad.

this shit is bull s***. if you dont know now YOU know
Vacan

Edmond, OK

#10 Sep 25, 2010
nowUknow wrote:
<quoted text>
you don't know the story s por eso q usted no entiende, ya hablaron con el muchachito que es primo de el senor ortega, los ditectives saben que el no lo mando a matar a nadie, por eso no lo arestaron. ortega es un nino tratando de aser gangster grande. porfavor le rego que no ace comentarios d lo que usted no save.


Por Favor, Ortega No es Nino. 21 Anos no es Nino.

Please, Ortega is not a child. He is 21 years of age.

Tal Vez los detectives hablaron con el, pero el mismo Ortega en la grabacion que fue escuchado en la corte stated en las palabras de Ortega que el fue por su primo. Tal vez como dises, que el muchacho que fue asaltado no lo mando.... PERO el mismo Ortega dijo eso en sus palabras.

Maybe the detectives talked with him, But it was Ortega himself that was heard in court in his own words saying it was because of his cousin. Maybe like you said, Ortegas cousin didn't send him and maybe didn't expect him to respond the way he did or even know that Ortega would act the way he did, But that is what Ortega was heard saying from jail.

Eso fue mi Punto, No trate de ofender, pero es mi Punto, Nuestro Jovenes Mexicanos/Chicanos estan CONFUNDIDOS.... Estand destrullendo sus Vidas Por Que? Una Vida de Sufrimiento y no solamente por ellos pero tambien por todos all rededor.

Ortega Si.... es todavilla Joven, Pero Nino No..... Ya esta bastante grande para saber y destinguir Bien y Mal. Especialmente poruqe Tiene un Nino pequeno....

Triste... Mucho Sufrimiento por que... Como Dices " Ortega es un Nino TRANTANDO de ser Gangsta Grande" Y todos Pierden en ese Juego...
Dade

Fairfield, CA

#11 Sep 25, 2010
Vacan wrote:
Ohhh You were there!
Are you stupid..... You can give your children guidance, it is not a 100 percent deterrent from them having issues.
As a responsible parent you try and teach your children how to be a reponsible human being and make right choices and be involved with them as much as possible but... IT IS NOT a 100 percent guanatee that when teens leave your house they WILL ALWAYS make the right decisions about their surrounding, friends and situation that they face out in the world.
The only way you can say Everyone involved is Gang related is IF YOU KNOW THEM ALL PERSONALLY, which include the victims who were shot and the shooters.
I was at a City Community forum when a Police Chief (at that time)was asked by community members, what the PD would do to address all the gang issues... He was very smart to point out there are lots of smaller kids that are WANNABE's and there are TRUE hardcore Gang members. The problem is that when young kids emulate What they "think" are True OG gangsters are... they put themselves at risk of being hurt..... and bring on a lot of SUFFERING for their families as well. Kids to young to know the TRUE reality of what they are getting themselves and their families into and the TRUE cost of their actions.
lol if your kid is out selling dope, gangbanging and murdering people, guess what....you as a parent did a lousy job and are part of the problem. True once they hit 18 they are adults and can make their own decisions, but to act like a parent is completely absolved and is not responsible in some way is just retarded and a failure to understand what responsibility is, both on the parent and son/daughter. Kids just don't go from the 6th grade to hard core gun toting gangsters overnight you know. To pretend otherwise is denying being a parent.
facts

New Port Richey, FL

#12 Sep 25, 2010
nowUknow wrote:
actually if you would like to know... the guy didn't call his cousin to retaliate, he has already spoke to detectives, his cousin is a liar, he was not told to come by his "younger cousin". his dumb *** took it upon himself to come. this is so stupid. Mr. ortega was trying to be a big bad Sureno and doidn't realize what he would cause. nobody made him come here from Fairfield. and the cousin wwasn't even around when ortega's dumb **** came to vacaville
You have no ideal what the f*** you're talking about,why don't you get your facts right before you say anything
nowUknow

Vacaville, CA

#13 Sep 25, 2010
facts wrote:
<quoted text>You have no ideal what the f*** you're talking about,why don't you get your facts right before you say anything
if i didn't know what i was talking about i wouldn't be commenting stupid a$$. I do know what im talking about for a FACT. call detective dye ask him if he didn't talk to "the cousin" and let him go after he spoke to him because there was no reason to arrest him!! YOU don't know what your talking about so shut your pie hole you idiot! i have facts you know hear say. which is credible?
A Voice for Beto

Davis, CA

#14 Sep 25, 2010
To heated with the issue I would be he first to say if Beto was a gang member but he was Not, A GANG MEMBER you can verify that with the police, school,friends and neighbors in the area that know what goes on over there.
HE WAS NOT. Did he live in a gang area, yes. He made the decision a while back
not be be a member and get out of the area. He was a good and decent kid.
I am not saying he was perfect, but he chose not to bang. I am only talking about Beto I can not speak for anyone else. For that alone he deserves justice.
No one, no matter who you are, deserves to be gunned down like he was. This could have happened to anyone who was outside that night. There are a lot of younger child that were playing outside where they were just minutes before. Child that Beto took the time to play with everyday. That you can confirm to.
HE WAS AN INNOCENT VICTIM. JUSTICE NEEDS TO BE SERVED and YOUR RIGHT THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT AND YOU WILL SEE.
nowUknow

Vacaville, CA

#15 Sep 25, 2010
facts wrote:
<quoted text>You have no ideal what the f*** you're talking about,why don't you get your facts right before you say anything
besides which one of my facts don't you believe? i have dates... p.s it's IDEA not ideal, misuse of words is a sign of you being unintelligent
nowUknow

Vacaville, CA

#16 Sep 25, 2010
A Voice for Beto wrote:
To heated with the issue I would be he first to say if Beto was a gang member but he was Not, A GANG MEMBER you can verify that with the police, school,friends and neighbors in the area that know what goes on over there.
HE WAS NOT. Did he live in a gang area, yes. He made the decision a while back
not be be a member and get out of the area. He was a good and decent kid.
I am not saying he was perfect, but he chose not to bang. I am only talking about Beto I can not speak for anyone else. For that alone he deserves justice.
No one, no matter who you are, deserves to be gunned down like he was. This could have happened to anyone who was outside that night. There are a lot of younger child that were playing outside where they were just minutes before. Child that Beto took the time to play with everyday. That you can confirm to.
HE WAS AN INNOCENT VICTIM. JUSTICE NEEDS TO BE SERVED and YOUR RIGHT THE TRUTH WILL COME OUT AND YOU WILL SEE.
the only thing i can agree with you on here is that he did not deserve to die the way he did. that's all i have to say about that and you know different than what you wrote here
ResponsibleParen t

Vacaville, CA

#17 Sep 25, 2010
Dade wrote:
<quoted text>
lol if your kid is out selling dope, gangbanging and murdering people, guess what....you as a parent did a lousy job and are part of the problem. True once they hit 18 they are adults and can make their own decisions, but to act like a parent is completely absolved and is not responsible in some way is just **** and a failure to understand what responsibility is, both on the parent and son/daughter. Kids just don't go from the 6th grade to hard core gun toting gangsters overnight you know. To pretend otherwise is denying being a parent.

I have to agree with your statement, if you teach your children "IM THE BOSS" they know your the boss. if you let them do what they want and pray to god for change, im sorry that's not enough. But, in defense of some of the kids involved they learned that ropes from home... gang related, criminal, druggie family members. look into the facts.
nowUknow

Vacaville, CA

#19 Sep 25, 2010
Vacan wrote:
<quoted text>
Por Favor, Ortega No es Nino. 21 Anos no es Nino.
Please, Ortega is not a child. He is 21 years of age.
Tal Vez los detectives hablaron con el, pero el mismo Ortega en la grabacion que fue escuchado en la corte stated en las palabras de Ortega que el fue por su primo. Tal vez como dises, que el muchacho que fue asaltado no lo mando.... PERO el mismo Ortega dijo eso en sus palabras.
Maybe the detectives talked with him, But it was Ortega himself that was heard in court in his own words saying it was because of his cousin. Maybe like you said, Ortegas cousin didn't send him and maybe didn't expect him to respond the way he did or even know that Ortega would act the way he did, But that is what Ortega was heard saying from jail.
Eso fue mi Punto, No trate de ofender, pero es mi Punto, Nuestro Jovenes Mexicanos/Chicanos estan CONFUNDIDOS.... Estand destrullendo sus Vidas Por Que? Una Vida de Sufrimiento y no solamente por ellos pero tambien por todos all rededor.
Ortega Si.... es todavilla Joven, Pero Nino No..... Ya esta bastante grande para saber y destinguir Bien y Mal. Especialmente poruqe Tiene un Nino pequeno....
Triste... Mucho Sufrimiento por que... Como Dices " Ortega es un Nino TRANTANDO de ser Gangsta Grande" Y todos Pierden en ese Juego...
you might not have understood me well, i'm saying basically ortega was trying to be a big gangster and couldn't take the heat, now he's blaming others when he brought his self here to do what he did to those boys. that's what i mean by nino trantando de ser gangster grande... and regardless of what ortega says his reasoning was for coming to vacaville, nobody made him come, he got his self in the car, drove him self on the freeway and got his self out of the car, and pulled the trigger on his own. no one else should have to pay for his misjudgment but him. that's all i'm saying. yes i do believe the cousin should be free he was no where around when it happened. i could tell you some one jumped me, if you decide to take matters into your hands that's on you. I can't control what you decide to do. Ortega should've minded his own business, but, guess what ortega does crystal meth, that stuff makes you do all kinds of stuff. his mentality was all jacked u. im not making excuses either i think who ever pulled the trigger should pay.
nowUknow

Vacaville, CA

#20 Sep 25, 2010
Vacan wrote:
<quoted text>
Por Favor, Ortega No es Nino. 21 Anos no es Nino.
Please, Ortega is not a child. He is 21 years of age.
Tal Vez los detectives hablaron con el, pero el mismo Ortega en la grabacion que fue escuchado en la corte stated en las palabras de Ortega que el fue por su primo. Tal vez como dises, que el muchacho que fue asaltado no lo mando.... PERO el mismo Ortega dijo eso en sus palabras.
Maybe the detectives talked with him, But it was Ortega himself that was heard in court in his own words saying it was because of his cousin. Maybe like you said, Ortegas cousin didn't send him and maybe didn't expect him to respond the way he did or even know that Ortega would act the way he did, But that is what Ortega was heard saying from jail.
Eso fue mi Punto, No trate de ofender, pero es mi Punto, Nuestro Jovenes Mexicanos/Chicanos estan CONFUNDIDOS.... Estand destrullendo sus Vidas Por Que? Una Vida de Sufrimiento y no solamente por ellos pero tambien por todos all rededor.
Ortega Si.... es todavilla Joven, Pero Nino No..... Ya esta bastante grande para saber y destinguir Bien y Mal. Especialmente poruqe Tiene un Nino pequeno....
Triste... Mucho Sufrimiento por que... Como Dices " Ortega es un Nino TRANTANDO de ser Gangsta Grande" Y todos Pierden en ese Juego...
si si es sierto q tiene una nina.
Vacan

Edmond, OK

#21 Sep 25, 2010
Dade wrote:
<quoted text>
lol if your kid is out selling dope, gangbanging and murdering people, guess what....you as a parent did a lousy job and are part of the problem. True once they hit 18 they are adults and can make their own decisions, but to act like a parent is completely absolved and is not responsible in some way is just **** and a failure to understand what responsibility is, both on the parent and son/daughter. Kids just don't go from the 6th grade to hard core gun toting gangsters overnight you know. To pretend otherwise is denying being a parent.
Was the Fairfield Officer whose son was tried and convicted of Beating an Innocent Homeless man responsible that his Son beat someone while he was out with his friends.

NO... As a Parent You cannot control what your kids do once they are grown. If your kid is a Minor and you have not done everything in your power to guide your child and teach them different BY ANY MEANS NECESARY than Yes you are a Negligent parent and not doing what as a Parent is your RESPONSIBILITY.

You know how many parents do try everything and reach out for help whether it be Mental help, Help from PD, Help from Counseling, Help from the School. There are Parents that ARE reposnsible and seeking help to change THAT child that is out of control. However, if your child decides to take the wrong path, Is 18 and doing dumb $#!* and you have done everything before they turned 18 to get them on the right path, than guess what it is no longer your problem. That child is 18, doesn't want to listen to their parent, wants to be a dumb ass despite a parents guidance, expense and tears....than at 18 that parent sure can say, "Your on your won. Your an adult.You can now face the consequences to the bad actions you committed and that I tried to prevent you from going though"

How can you explain in household where there is multiple children and one goes bad, but all the other children in the home are good productive citizens makeing something of themselves and they are all raised the same way. How can you explain that. That occurs all the time in household from various economic and ethnic backgrounds. IT HAPPENS!

As you stated, "Kids just don't go from the 6th grade to hard core gun toting gangsters overnight you know."

There is a HUGE difference between a Wannabe and a Hardcore Gun toting gang member. If you go on Vacaville PD's Website and various other Law Enforcement Websites, they will give you a Break down of the difference, in case you don't know.

People throw around the word gang banger like there is no differnce between a small kid emulating a gang member through clothing and friends, than a Paroled hooked up Hardcore gang member. There is a difference. If you see a 6th grader emulating gang members or a middle school child and it isn't addressed; Yes, that child WILL end up in problems later.

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