Million's dream: An answer to the cal...

Million's dream: An answer to the call for more water

There are 48 comments on the KUSA Denver story from Jul 23, 2007, titled Million's dream: An answer to the call for more water. In it, KUSA Denver reports that:

" He has a name worthy of the project he is proposing. Aaron P. Million has a $3 billion plan he says will help to wash away Colorado's concern over water supply.

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Brandon and Chrissy Craig

Oak Creek, CO

#1 Jul 23, 2007
To Whom It May Concern,
I would like to voice my concern and opinions related with this "Answer to a call for water project", and hope that you can tell the people who watch this news channel the concerns of ranchers involved. Local Ranchers also known as the commercial ranchers which produce the foods and grains mainly the meat,poultry and grain America needs to survive, will be completely ruined should the plans Aaron P. Million intends to set into action occur. It will drain all local ranchers in the plotted area of the water project, of the water they need to grow crops which produce food for the animals and foods grown that feed America. It will completely cut off all the water we use and make it impossible for the ranches to survive. I am a local rancher in Phippsburg, Colorado with my husband and his family as well as my parents in Meeker, Colorado. This project will personally ruin our ranches as well as all of those around us and in turn will begin the slow demise of all ranches in the United States. These problems he says are not occurring or what I believe he called "snake bites", are occurring, but contrary to what he thinks they are much worse than "snake bites". I believe he is not considerate of the ranches in America and is just looking to make money without considering the damage he is doing. I would greatly appreciate it if you could bring some of these points to light on our local news cast.
Thank You,
Brandon and Christina Craig
SimpleSimon

Canon City, CO

#2 Jul 24, 2007
Great. Another way to help MORE rude, arrogant, city people come to Colorado. :(
Tina Leyba

Littleton, CO

#3 Jul 24, 2007
Make it work for everyone; including the ranchers or leave it be.
just dismayed

Fort Morgan, CO

#4 Jul 24, 2007
Wow, if his figures are right, that's only 6,000 dollars per house. Heck farmers could also buy shares of this water to send down various rivers for farming, though it takes a lot of water for that and would probably be cost prohibitive for that.
just dismayed

Fort Morgan, CO

#5 Jul 24, 2007
Brandon and Chrissy Craig wrote:
To Whom It May Concern,
I would like to voice my concern and opinions related with this "Answer to a call for water project", and hope that you can tell the people who watch this news channel the concerns of ranchers involved. Local Ranchers also known as the commercial ranchers which produce the foods and grains mainly the meat,poultry and grain America needs to survive, will be completely ruined should the plans Aaron P. Million intends to set into action occur. It will drain all local ranchers in the plotted area of the water project, of the water they need to grow crops which produce food for the animals and foods grown that feed America. It will completely cut off all the water we use and make it impossible for the ranches to survive. I am a local rancher in Phippsburg, Colorado with my husband and his family as well as my parents in Meeker, Colorado. This project will personally ruin our ranches as well as all of those around us and in turn will begin the slow demise of all ranches in the United States. These problems he says are not occurring or what I believe he called "snake bites", are occurring, but contrary to what he thinks they are much worse than "snake bites". I believe he is not considerate of the ranches in America and is just looking to make money without considering the damage he is doing. I would greatly appreciate it if you could bring some of these points to light on our local news cast.
Thank You,
Brandon and Christina Craig
I would like to see more information on how this hurts the folks in your area. How does this take away your water? Is it because everyone would be selling their water rights? Is he robbing your water rights? How does taking water from that resivoir affect a ranch in say Kansas? I'm not criticizing you, I'm just saying I would like something besides an emotional response to back up your story. Perhaps your area is like ours and water is already overappropriated.

“It's pronounced DAG-uth.”

Since: Jun 07

Windsor, CO

#6 Jul 24, 2007
Brandon and Chrissy Craig wrote:
To Whom It May Concern,
I would like to voice my concern and opinions related with this "Answer to a call for water project", and hope that you can tell the people who watch this news channel the concerns of ranchers involved. Local Ranchers also known as the commercial ranchers which produce the foods and grains mainly the meat,poultry and grain America needs to survive, will be completely ruined should the plans Aaron P. Million intends to set into action occur. It will drain all local ranchers in the plotted area of the water project, of the water they need to grow crops which produce food for the animals and foods grown that feed America. It will completely cut off all the water we use and make it impossible for the ranches to survive. I am a local rancher in Phippsburg, Colorado with my husband and his family as well as my parents in Meeker, Colorado. This project will personally ruin our ranches as well as all of those around us and in turn will begin the slow demise of all ranches in the United States. These problems he says are not occurring or what I believe he called "snake bites", are occurring, but contrary to what he thinks they are much worse than "snake bites". I believe he is not considerate of the ranches in America and is just looking to make money without considering the damage he is doing. I would greatly appreciate it if you could bring some of these points to light on our local news cast.
Thank You,
Brandon and Christina Craig
Um, your letter is neat and everything, but I think you need to print it and send it through the MAIL (you know, they deliver stuff) to the appropriate authority. I doubt a "To Whom It May Concern" letter is going to get the appropriate attention in an online forum. Just a thought.
Observer

Denver, CO

#7 Jul 24, 2007
Brandon and Chrissy Craig wrote:
To Whom It May Concern,
I would like to voice my concern and opinions related with this "Answer to a call for water project", and hope that you can tell the people who watch this news channel the concerns of ranchers involved. Local Ranchers also known as the commercial ranchers which produce the foods and grains mainly the meat,poultry and grain America needs to survive, will be completely ruined should the plans Aaron P. Million intends to set into action occur. It will drain all local ranchers in the plotted area of the water project, of the water they need to grow crops which produce food for the animals and foods grown that feed America. It will completely cut off all the water we use and make it impossible for the ranches to survive. I am a local rancher in Phippsburg, Colorado with my husband and his family as well as my parents in Meeker, Colorado. This project will personally ruin our ranches as well as all of those around us and in turn will begin the slow demise of all ranches in the United States. These problems he says are not occurring or what I believe he called "snake bites", are occurring, but contrary to what he thinks they are much worse than "snake bites". I believe he is not considerate of the ranches in America and is just looking to make money without considering the damage he is doing. I would greatly appreciate it if you could bring some of these points to light on our local news cast.
Thank You,
Brandon and Christina Craig
Brandon and Christina,

Can you send your letter to those that Million is working with, i.e., the state and other resources? You'll need to hook up your neighbors also and present a united force to preserve your water. Are your shares from the Green and are they surface or tributary in the ground from the Green? Be sure you cover all your bases.
geologist

Aurora, CO

#8 Jul 24, 2007
Water rights in the West are extremely complicated. The law has evolved over a century. Five States and several nations have complex calculations to determine their portion of any system, especially the Colorado.

It's not as easy as it looks
Whorled Peas

Aspen, CO

#9 Jul 24, 2007
If we quit giving our water to California, we would have enough for ourselves. Did you know that the Californians didn't have water restictions using our water when we could only water our lawns for a few minutes a couple days a week?

And we need to conserve. Cities shouldn't put lawn in the narrow medians and water the street every night. A little common sense could save lots of water.
Sam

Medford, OR

#10 Jul 24, 2007
I would bet they did send a letter, and probably phone calls. Some folks do follow up, not like some of the posters here who just come on and pick on the messenger. After reading a news story about the USDA sending a billion dollars to dead farmers, I made contact with the USDA, and my Congressman, expressing my feelings of the lack of accountability. And after looking at your location, I see you are too close to Ft Collins, have gotten the "boulder" attitude. My address is now WA State, moved out of NE Colorado last month, too many villages have lost their idiots to the state. Maybe when the price of those Big Macs goes to $12 each you will see the need to help the rancher out, they contribute a lot more to society than the "elite" folks in Colorado with their big lawns and golf courses.
The Poisoned Pen

Fort Collins, CO

#11 Jul 24, 2007
I have a great idea that would solve ALL our water concerns!
Do not let any more mega communities be built until ALL of the foreclosed homes are bought up. Then charge the developer a hefty fee for each home built so it would help pay for a new school and community center.
Our schools are just as over run as our land is.
Anyone tired of the lack of respect for the people already here especially the little guys who are getting run over by Big Money?
We are too busy trying to make ends meet supporting this economy that the greed is out spending and running over our natural resources to the point of ruin. Then where will they go next?
Wake up Colorado and start making some noise and making your voice heard. Write those letters to the Governor, to your representatives and actually stand up and fight this stupidity and greed.
This achievment of placing in the top 5 for housing forclosures sure makes Colorado look stupid. Not a record I want to be known for.
WTF

United States

#12 Jul 24, 2007
just dismayed wrote:
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I would like to see more information on how this hurts the folks in your area. How does this take away your water? Is it because everyone would be selling their water rights? Is he robbing your water rights? How does taking water from that resivoir affect a ranch in say Kansas? I'm not criticizing you, I'm just saying I would like something besides an emotional response to back up your story. Perhaps your area is like ours and water is already overappropriated.
Totally agree. There is nothing in this letter that indicates why there is an issue.
Truth

United States

#13 Jul 24, 2007
Follow the $$$...I wonder how the 'private interests' backing this project would be represented. My guess: commercial/residential real estate development first, recreation second, and agriculture last. What a complete waste of time, money, and natural resources. I wonder how much fossil fuel will be consumed to complete such a project. This guy stands to make a buck or two, and boost his ego, so you can imagine his delusional thinking that it's a sound idea. Nobody wants to step up and deal with the realities of our arid climate and the negative impacts of trying to artificially support growth. This project is about as stupid as what they're doing over in Dubai with indoor ski mountains, tall buildings, and man-made islands.
Revenger

Glenmoore, PA

#14 Jul 24, 2007
"Build it and they will come." True, more available water means that more people can live on the Front Range, but that'll happen anyway. With this project, hopefully The Poudre can be left alone but towns, cities, farmers, & ranchers will have all of the water that they need.
Shutting down the NorCo farmers wells this past year was unimaginable a decade ago, especially since it was to give cities like Longmont & Boulder more water to play with. Build this to help everyone.
wyo-expat

Aurora, CO

#15 Jul 24, 2007
What seems to be overlooked here is how the communities that rely on Flaming Gorge Res. are supposed to get water if we start taking more out of it. I know that both SW Wyoming & NE Utah are in drought conditions. I don't know enough about this situtation to know if we would be taking away 'their' water, but I do know that the people in Rock Springs, WY are under water restrictions just like our communities down here. They are one of the communitites that gets water from Flaming Gorge and it's water level, as well as the level of the Green have not been at normal levels for awhile.
Observer

Denver, CO

#16 Jul 24, 2007
Whorled Peas wrote:
If we quit giving our water to California, we would have enough for ourselves. Did you know that the Californians didn't have water restictions using our water when we could only water our lawns for a few minutes a couple days a week?
And we need to conserve. Cities shouldn't put lawn in the narrow medians and water the street every night. A little common sense could save lots of water.
There go those pesky water rights issues again. Ummmm, quit giving it up to a point maybe, Whorled Peas... don't forget, a large quantity of our fruits and veggies that we buy at the grocery store and don't give a thought to, are grown in SoCal. We have to feed ourselves. But as far as watering those lush golf courses, keeping the desert green and for what I consider frivolous uses, I agree with you. The resources are changing and everybody in all states along the river has to be willing to adapt and push to change the laws. The water rights are old. Back when they were written and decided, the upstream population was lot smaller.
Truth

United States

#17 Jul 24, 2007
so true..times have changed and it's high time to revisit those water agreements and admit that they don't work in today's environment...but the ones who stand to lose will put up the biggest fight.
Nina

Denver, CO

#18 Jul 24, 2007
As a rancher's daughter, I can provide some information to the questions asked of the Craig's note. Each spring a rancher or farmer asks for certain allotments of water for irrigation purposes throughout the summer for their hay/corn/wheat fields. That allotment is acre feet of water and is determined by past use, water rights, etc. Not every year is full allotment granted. However, in years like these last few years - the allotment is less because of the DROUGHT. I know for a fact that ranchers in southeastern WY (for example) had only 11 days of irrigation water in 2004, 29 days in 2005, 38 days last year, and most likely less than 22 days this year - no water in the resevoirs, not enough water in the Laramie River.

SO - if there is a drought - water levels in the Green River are down - means that far less than 500,000 homes get their water - and by the way - rising costs in the grocery store because ranchers and farmers can't grow crops!

I hope that helps!
Actually

United States

#19 Jul 24, 2007
I think this is a great idea but am curious about the first poster talking about ranches being hurt. I hope 9news investigates the cons of the idea as much as the pros. This seems like too easy of a find for it to have not been considered before. I say always put farms and ranches first or pay the price later. I agree with "Dagoth" that this is not the only place to post a concern. They should get the word out that this plan is going to hurt local farms and ranches. A lot of city folks hold a great deal of appreciation for farmers and ranchers and I believe they would have voters support.
Truth

United States

#20 Jul 24, 2007
this project has nothing to do with the best interests of the public and everything to do with money and greed for the few who stand to make money planning, designing, building, and managing it. It's just another example of delusional thinking rather than dealing with reality and making arrangements to simplify and CONSERVE. Water should be used as a means of limiting growth, not promoting it. That's all we need along the 'Front Rage' corridor - another 500K houses to bring millions of people, cars, and all of the 'stuff' to support the spreading cancer of suburbia and our consumption of oil and other resources.

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