Is Temple Baptist Church a true place of Christianity?

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Christianity

Herndon, VA

#1 Mar 17, 2009
To Every True Christian I know,
Please Help Me!
As most of you know Jimmy is home on his 15 day leave from Iraq. This Sunday morning he and his friend, Jason a Marine decided to attend the church where they went to private school and grew up together. They wanted to see old friends, teachers and other fellow "Christian's" they have known most of their lives. As they made they way into the "Church" the pastor pulled them aside and ask them to leave. Some one had seen them the day before at a sports bar drinking a beer. The pastor "David Pittman" told them they could not attend the service because the church members did not want them there. They were afraid that "Jimmy and Jason who are two grown men who chose to attend Church on Sunday Morning without any influence from anyone" Were there to and I Quote " recruit other young people from the church to indulge in wrong doings"!!!!!! No I'm not joking!!!! At this point Jimmy and Jason both in uniform where escorted out of the Church by several "Deacons"
IS THIS WHAT JESUS WOULD DO?
WOULD HE STAND BESIDE THE PASTOR?
Our son is home from his out post where he goes out on missions under enemy fire every week to fight for our right of freedom of religion. The very people he is fighting for have shunned him. And they did it using Christianity as their reasoning!!!!!!!!!!
I am asking all of you to please feel free to express you thought on this to whom you feel needs to hear it! As well as forward to any friends or family members you feel may have something to say.
I have PRAYED AND PRAYED FOR GOD TO HELP ME WITH SELF CONTROL!! I ask that you pray for me this the hardest test of self control and anger management that God has ever given me!
Here is the Address and Emails for this "Christian Church"?
Temple Baptist Church
1545 Drainsville Rd
Herndon, VA 20170
Troy

United States

#2 Apr 24, 2009
Their is probably more to the story than we are being told. I WILL PRAY FOR God to reveal the truth and to have his way'
Wow

Herndon, VA

#3 Apr 24, 2009
Oh my
Bill

Norristown, PA

#4 Jun 5, 2009
Good for the pastor!
Scott W

Los Angeles, CA

#5 Jun 9, 2009
There is not a Pastor alive that loves people more than David Pittman. He also has a responsibility to protect his young people and its Members.

You surely agree it was wrong fro them to be out boozing it up, then oh ...let's go to church and see our buddies.

They need to first ask God to forgive them, and tehn ask the Pastor....if they come in the right spirit...I am sure they would be welcomed with open arms.
Gary

Los Angeles, CA

#6 Jun 9, 2009
Why don't you worry about little Jimmy and Jason's drinking...you should be ashamed of yourself to post something like this..you should do as was suggested above and go tell this Pastor you are sorry.

Temple Baptist Church is just that... a church...a place where you should come with the attitude of worshipping God...not going out drinking and then come show all your friends how cool you are...this is not cool.

Grow up...go tell the Lord you are sorry then the Pastor.
Pat Sterling VA

Herndon, VA

#7 Jun 16, 2009
So what if they were in a sports bar the day before, are't we all Gods children? Jesus died on the cross to save all sinners. Aren't sinners welcomed in Church anymore. Does this Church only take in Christians? The Pastor should welcome sinners and christians alike
To my knowledge no Pastor OWNS his Church it is Gods place of Worship....and everyone and anyone should be welcomed no matter what you have done, wear or what color you are.
Gary

Los Angeles, CA

#8 Jun 16, 2009
Pat Sterling VA wrote:
So what if they were in a sports bar the day before, are't we all Gods children? Jesus died on the cross to save all sinners. Aren't sinners welcomed in Church anymore. Does this Church only take in Christians? The Pastor should welcome sinners and christians alike
To my knowledge no Pastor OWNS his Church it is Gods place of Worship....and everyone and anyone should be welcomed no matter what you have done, wear or what color you are.
While no Pastor owns a church, it is his responsibility from God, and the church family that called him to be the Pastor to protect the church and the church family.

When you have anyone come to any church with the sole purpose of showing off their life-style and sin....then yes he not only has the right but the God given duty to remove them from the church.

If the person who started this whole ridiculous blog really was in the right spirit.... they would have gone to the Pastor and received a full explanation, but I highly doubt that happened.

The Pastor is held accountable for his actions, to God and to his church...and the young people in question here will someday stand before God and explain their actions.

You were not there at this event nor was I, so I would give the benefit of the doubt to a Pastor whose has been in the ministry for over 30 years...sinners are welcome in church but if a sinner walks in with a machine gun do you just let him in?

No, why let someone in who has one intention and that is to hurt your church family?

People that are serious about their Christian life don't spend the early Sunday morning hours in a sports bar pounding down drinks...then they most certainly don't go to church to flaunt that lifesyle.
Rod Koozmin

Upper Marlboro, MD

#9 Jun 17, 2009
We know that Jesus in what we call his first miricle turned water into wine. But it has been a long tradition of Baptists to not drink alchol. However much of what is done in church and take as Christianity is not related to what went on in church as we know it from reading the New Testament. Read Frank Violla's "Pagan Christianity." We are hoping to investigate this book and try as much as possable to return to New Testament practices.- Rod Koozmin (Organic Reston Christian Fellowship Meet-Up)
Gary

Los Angeles, CA

#10 Jun 17, 2009
Rod Koozmin wrote:
We know that Jesus in what we call his first miricle turned water into wine. But it has been a long tradition of Baptists to not drink alchol. However much of what is done in church and take as Christianity is not related to what went on in church as we know it from reading the New Testament. Read Frank Violla's "Pagan Christianity." We are hoping to investigate this book and try as much as possable to return to New Testament practices.- Rod Koozmin (Organic Reston Christian Fellowship Meet-Up)
Rod,

I am sure with your knowledge that you are in no way saying that the wine of Bible Times is the same wine that people drink today...because if you did study that you would see it is in no way the same...forget Baptist, Catholic, etc, would you want your kids friends coming into your home promoting that drinking is cool...hopefully not, We are taught to love our neighbor....you can still love the neighbor, but you can't tolerate the behavior. Make sense??
Gerry

Las Vegas, NV

#11 Jun 24, 2009
This story sounds a little off beat. Is it possible that the young men had a strong odor of alcohol on their breath and it was brought to this pastor's attention.
Jim Barbour

Auburndale, FL

#12 Jun 26, 2009
If I disagree does that mean I'm not a true Christian? Was it him they shunned or the smell of beer drinking the day before. In stead of praying for self control and a anger problem, Pray that Jesus would come into your heart, that you may be Saved. Then you would understand.
I pray for Jimmy and and Jason, may The Lord watch over them.

Brother Pittman and the members of Temple Baptist, Thank you for taking a stand, And I will try to attend services, when I'm up again from Florida.
Morgon

Conway, AR

#13 Jul 14, 2009
I find the open condemnation of a mother whose son had just returned from defending our country overseas, who just wanted to visit old friends and teachers after spending a great deal of time risking his life...lacking in all grace and love.

The attitudes at work here are the same that condemned Christ for healing on the Sabbath. Anybody who doesn't match the given standards of perfection and cleanliness isn't welcome at this church, at this institution.

Then you'll get precisely what you deserve, and the love of Christ will abandon that place. I know that all of the times that I've been there, I've been struck by the frightening lack of love evident there, which is why I left it as quickly as I could.

You Whitened Tombs! You know all of the right rules, but you let your love of "holiness" keep you from the love of mankind, and you let your separation build castles of faith in which you may remain safe from the world, but where not one ounce of Christ's love will be spilled on an achey and needy world, unless they're willing to clean up to your standards and come to your church!

And when, at the throne, Christ asks you why you turned him away at the door to your church, as you did to the least of these, what defense will you give Him?
hurt before

Salisbury, MD

#14 Jul 16, 2009
Whew! I'm sure there is a little more to the story than we have here, but I know of an organization where a preacher owns several of the churches and what a mess. I believe there may have been a better way to handle this situation. Allowing some one to come to church may have given them the opportunity to seek the Lord. the could have been talked to to see what their motives were. This is of course my opinion.
I know these guys

Goodlettsville, TN

#15 Jul 26, 2009
im sure This isnt the first time one of these guys had been asked to leave. younger kids (who look up to these guys) and see them as a kinda' rebel role model. If the pastor asked them to leave it was for the younger kids. The bible says cast out a scorner, forsake the foolish, and Paul even cast out wayward christians from churches I CORINTHIANS 5:5. it is a biblical principle to do this. the situation was handled right, as the pastor asked them to leave and didnt call too much attention to it. Praise God for a pastor who stands for right and is not a manpleaser. AMEN.
Yep

Goodlettsville, TN

#16 Jul 27, 2009
That's right the Apostle Paul didnt stand for wickedness in the church. He even told the corinthians he would set things in order when he came. Most of the people who disagree with the pastor are new "Joel Olsteen type" Christians. "lets just love, love, love and not talk about bible doctrine." Jesus cast out wicked people from his fathers house. Jesus is love, but he is also righteousness too. I know for a fact that several of temple's former younger kids have joined together and we have seen them partying around herndon. As someone who doesnt go to temple its a shame and a blot on the pastor. If there is a group of them someone started gathering wayward teens one by one. These guys didnt come to church to worship God, they came for the simple fact of hanging out and showing "see, its okay to live wicked, nothing bad happened yet its soooo much fun guys, dont listen to the pastor." This dad and his kids need to read I John about the sin unto death, and the teaching of paul regarding God's dealing with the corinthians "some even sleep (dead). God is gonna' deal with them and if they dont turn, he could take them to heaven for his names sake. read your bible.
A fellow christian

United States

#17 Aug 3, 2009
I thought even Baptists could say hi to each other in the liquor stores in today's world.
Seriously

Durham, NC

#18 Aug 4, 2009
1) who saw them at the sports bar? Was that person asked to leave, too, because they were also out 'sinning' the night before?
2) Baptists believe drinking is a sin. Jesus died for our sins. So if we don't commit them, he died in vein and that makes us blasphemous, right? Blasphemy is a sin. is anyone really prepared to argue beer over blasphemy here?
3) organized churches is where the "holier than thou" saying came from. It should come as no surprise that pettiness like this exists in every church.
Christianity wrote:
To Every True Christian I know,
Please Help Me!
As most of you know Jimmy is home on his 15 day leave from Iraq. This Sunday morning he and his friend, Jason a Marine decided to attend the church where they went to private school and grew up together. They wanted to see old friends, teachers and other fellow "Christian's" they have known most of their lives. As they made they way into the "Church" the pastor pulled them aside and ask them to leave. Some one had seen them the day before at a sports bar drinking a beer. The pastor "David Pittman" told them they could not attend the service because the church members did not want them there. They were afraid that "Jimmy and Jason who are two grown men who chose to attend Church on Sunday Morning without any influence from anyone" Were there to and I Quote " recruit other young people from the church to indulge in wrong doings"!!!!!! No I'm not joking!!!! At this point Jimmy and Jason both in uniform where escorted out of the Church by several "Deacons"
IS THIS WHAT JESUS WOULD DO?
WOULD HE STAND BESIDE THE PASTOR?
Our son is home from his out post where he goes out on missions under enemy fire every week to fight for our right of freedom of religion. The very people he is fighting for have shunned him. And they did it using Christianity as their reasoning!!!!!!!!!!
I am asking all of you to please feel free to express you thought on this to whom you feel needs to hear it! As well as forward to any friends or family members you feel may have something to say.
I have PRAYED AND PRAYED FOR GOD TO HELP ME WITH SELF CONTROL!! I ask that you pray for me this the hardest test of self control and anger management that God has ever given me!
Here is the Address and Emails for this "Christian Church"?
Temple Baptist Church
1545 Drainsville Rd
Herndon, VA 20170
Larry

Los Angeles, CA

#19 Aug 4, 2009
Seriously wrote:
1) who saw them at the sports bar? Was that person asked to leave, too, because they were also out 'sinning' the night before?
2) Baptists believe drinking is a sin. Jesus died for our sins. So if we don't commit them, he died in vein and that makes us blasphemous, right? Blasphemy is a sin. is anyone really prepared to argue beer over blasphemy here?
3) organized churches is where the "holier than thou" saying came from. It should come as no surprise that pettiness like this exists in every church.
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I challenge anyone to visit this church and this dear pastor, I have visited there when I visit the area and we need more pastors in this day and time that will take a stand.

you cannot allow folks to flaunt their sin, and if these folks were really serious about serving the Lord they would not have been in a bar...period.

Sounds to me like this a spoiled rotten family who can't really see their kids are wrong, whether their soldiers or they mow lawns, who cares take responsibility, this church is very loving, the Pastor preaches the Bible....if you want Joel Osteen type preaching stay home and watch TV.

One day you will need a Pastor in a great time of need, and I have no doubt this dear Pastor would be there for you.

Move on, you will never hurt the work of the Lord with your whining.
Seriously

Durham, NC

#20 Aug 5, 2009
I didn't knock this church, nor did I knock this pastor. I knocked the hipocracy of organized christianity. No, I don't want Joel Olsteen preaching at me. Nor do I want this guy, or the next.

But I do believe people have a right to believe whatever it is they want to and worship however it is they want to.

My reply was not to you, Larry the faithful. It was to the person who posted this thread, who is - it seems - starting to see the same double standard that others do. His only folly is he thinks this one guy or this one church is the only one with a problem.
Larry wrote:
<quoted text>I challenge anyone to visit this church and this dear pastor, I have visited there when I visit the area and we need more pastors in this day and time that will take a stand.
you cannot allow folks to flaunt their sin, and if these folks were really serious about serving the Lord they would not have been in a bar...period.
Sounds to me like this a spoiled rotten family who can't really see their kids are wrong, whether their soldiers or they mow lawns, who cares take responsibility, this church is very loving, the Pastor preaches the Bible....if you want Joel Osteen type preaching stay home and watch TV.
One day you will need a Pastor in a great time of need, and I have no doubt this dear Pastor would be there for you.
Move on, you will never hurt the work of the Lord with your whining.

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