Just saying

United States

#424 Aug 25, 2012
Some people that are selling Visalus take the "after picture" and not the "before picture" they don't say in their testimonial that they had a tummy tuck before Visalus. Which is misleading and dishonest. I don't believe that all the credit goes to Visalus. Eating right and exercise is the safest way to lose weight.
Lauren

Salisbury, NC

#426 Sep 2, 2012
Just go to your local GNC, buy some protein powder and a multivitamin and you'll get the same effect. Its replacing meals with a high amount of protein that makes you shed pounds. I replace meals with protein shakes and lose weight without working out at all (terrible, I know). Getting 30 Grams or so of protein within an hour of waking aids in fat burning throughout the day. There is no magic ingredient in this Vi scam..Just protein and vitamins, and cleverly concocted recipes that make these things taste like candy bars.
LaughingOutLoud

Ironton, OH

#427 Sep 4, 2012
Can someone here define "Pyramid"? Somewhat confused???
Army ABN INF Sniper

Austin, TX

#428 Sep 19, 2012
Happy happy wrote:
<quoted text>
I disagree !!!!
W have 17 family members on Visalus& it has Transformed OUR life! Not to mention all the others we have helped turn their life around in the last 6 months. Including a lady who Dr.s COULD NOT HELP! All with the Vi-Pak & the Shakes!
I myself had been to Dr.s , only to walk out of their office STILL SICK with NO answers & 5 DRUG Prescriptions!
My sister got on the shakes & felt amazing & thus my intrest in them, I ordered ONE bag and the rest is history. I had a complete turn around in my Health , PLUS lost 20 pd.s and have NEVER FELT BETTER!!! Also, my husband WHO has MD, was being doped up by DOCTORS & could NOT get his Energy up, only to be given MORE & MORE & MORE DRUGS that ONLY kept him in bed SICK! Visalus saved his life & NOW he has more energy than ever & is NOT taking the Drugs & is back to WORKING! My Sister was on 4 different med.s from DOCTORS, only to have a light stroke , over weight & sick. NOW, after being on VISALUS for 7 months, she is down 30 Pounds, 30 inch.s & NO MORE DRUGS & is running every day!! YOU come to late to tell me that it doesnt work, because it DOES WORK!!! WE have 17 family members to PROVE YOU WRONG! Including my 74 year old father!
I am changing peoples Health every week & YOU want to bash the Product??
GO EAT your chemical processed FOOD from McDonalds & burger King & buy it off the shelve from WalMart, But we all will take OUR SHAKES!
I want you to prove every fucking statement you made in this pathetically blatant counter PR post! BTW, my handle states my career which would show some level of understanding fitness and health as it is my duty to not only maintain my personal level of fitness for the rigors of combat but those under me for their health and their survival. You state that this shake cured a lady that Dr's COULD NOT HELP? what was her condition which was terminal and created a sense of permanent reduced quality of life? blanket statement with no details. You state that you came out of Dr's offices with no answers and solutions just more medications but by taking this shake as you say, the rest was history. What history? What was your rare incurable condition? You also state that your sister got on the shakes & felt amazing. Thank you for confirming that health is the act of subjective outlook. You also state that you have lost 20lbs and have never felt better. Congrats. Another subjective outlook. Man cocaine and heroin make people feel fucking amazing... until they die one day. You've just equated the encompassing totality of health into a stimulant... like cocaine. You state your husband is an MD, what specific discipline? My wife is finishing her NP in anesthesiology with multiple certs and lower degrees. Just curious cause I know that on average in the US Dr's live several years less than their own patients.Weird correlation wouldn't you think? What was his condition? CAN YOU STATE ONE FUCKING IOTA OF ILLNESS THAT DIRECTLY RELATES TO THIS PRODUCT AND HEALING FACTORS? Again and again you state how your family has dramatically improved their quality of life by consuming this synthetic vitamin product with no scientific method in cause, effect and result.You didn't explain one damn thing.Just made a lot of weak statements.It must be really 1 of 2 things, this is hands down the best thing ever created, OR... reality, your family has the most inherently devolved genes to allow a placebo like this to take root.I can't imagine what poor ill-formed creations your lineage must hold but thank God Natural selection is non existent in this country because you unfortunately by your own admittance of being the most sickly fucking family in America wouldn't be able to blabber (I'm assuming excess "chinage")about the wonders of this snake oil & it's good for what ails ya! Wait, running out of room... I'll post another scathing response to your lies and bullshit in a second.
Army ABN INF Sniper

Austin, TX

#429 Sep 19, 2012
Happy happy wrote:
<quoted text>
I disagree !!!!
W have 17 family members on Visalus& it has Transformed OUR life! Not to mention all the others we have helped turn their life around in the last 6 months. Including a lady who Dr.s COULD NOT HELP! All with the Vi-Pak & the Shakes!
I myself had been to Dr.s , only to walk out of their office STILL SICK with NO answers & 5 DRUG Prescriptions!
My sister got on the shakes & felt amazing & thus my intrest in them, I ordered ONE bag and the rest is history. I had a complete turn around in my Health , PLUS lost 20 pd.s and have NEVER FELT BETTER!!! Also, my husband WHO has MD, was being doped up by DOCTORS & could NOT get his Energy up, only to be given MORE & MORE & MORE DRUGS that ONLY kept him in bed SICK! Visalus saved his life & NOW he has more energy than ever & is NOT taking the Drugs & is back to WORKING! My Sister was on 4 different med.s from DOCTORS, only to have a light stroke , over weight & sick. NOW, after being on VISALUS for 7 months, she is down 30 Pounds, 30 inch.s & NO MORE DRUGS & is running every day!! YOU come to late to tell me that it doesnt work, because it DOES WORK!!! WE have 17 family members to PROVE YOU WRONG! Including my 74 year old father!
I am changing peoples Health every week & YOU want to bash the Product??
GO EAT your chemical processed FOOD from McDonalds & burger King & buy it off the shelve from WalMart, But we all will take OUR SHAKES!
OK, so we've established that you have made empty platitudes and fantastical stories about how this wonder drug has cured what seems to be the most sickly unhealthy family on earth which somehow is capable of reproducing quite a bit. Because 17 sick family members is quite large pertaining to what you've tried to claim. Furthermore, there is a friggin practicing MD who was incapable of treating his family back to a state of health? Flag on the play! I'm calling bullshit. Seriously what the fuck is wrong with your family? I'm taking the point of view that nothing is and that this is a fantastic counter/pr email from one of... what do you call your sales reps? Ambassadors? Shit you guys were needed in Benghazi like weeks ago (too soon?). Bottom line is this, on the internet anyone can be anything that they would like to be and therefore can make amazing claims and assumptions. When reviewing these ingredients in these shakes that cured your families ills... honestly I can't imagine what kind of life you people live to be that pathetically ill... myself, my wife who is a nurse, our friend who is a DR (healthy one at that and actually provides healthcare) and another friend who is a nutritionist we found it to be a pretty simple answer. It's packed with trans fats (that means it tastes good). You supplement an actual meal with this trash and there are several active ingredients which effectively make this shake a nutrient/calorie/protein inhibitor. Therefore, you eat something tasty which provides no nutritional value. So obese people will cannibalize their stored energy/fat and they will see an initial loss of weight. BUT that won't last forever, because the body will still require nutrients. It's a cheap joke that you pay top dollar for... well not you. You're probably at corporate trying to do as much damage control with fantasy stories about the most unhealthy fucked up family in America. You know you got one of my less intelligent friends in on this and I told him it's just a stupid ponzi scheme. You know, you must have continuous growth of new members to supply the revenue. Not from the value of a great product but that of an ever increasing membership. Amazes me these MLM's are legal somehow.
Army ABN INF Sniper

Austin, TX

#430 Sep 19, 2012
Happy happy wrote:
<quoted text>
I disagree !!!!
W have 17 family members on Visalus& it has Transformed OUR life! Not to mention all the others we have helped turn their life around in the last 6 months. Including a lady who Dr.s COULD NOT HELP! All with the Vi-Pak & the Shakes!
I myself had been to Dr.s , only to walk out of their office STILL SICK with NO answers & 5 DRUG Prescriptions!
My sister got on the shakes & felt amazing & thus my intrest in them, I ordered ONE bag and the rest is history. I had a complete turn around in my Health , PLUS lost 20 pd.s and have NEVER FELT BETTER!!! Also, my husband WHO has MD, was being doped up by DOCTORS & could NOT get his Energy up, only to be given MORE & MORE & MORE DRUGS that ONLY kept him in bed SICK! Visalus saved his life & NOW he has more energy than ever & is NOT taking the Drugs & is back to WORKING! My Sister was on 4 different med.s from DOCTORS, only to have a light stroke , over weight & sick. NOW, after being on VISALUS for 7 months, she is down 30 Pounds, 30 inch.s & NO MORE DRUGS & is running every day!! YOU come to late to tell me that it doesnt work, because it DOES WORK!!! WE have 17 family members to PROVE YOU WRONG! Including my 74 year old father!
I am changing peoples Health every week & YOU want to bash the Product??
GO EAT your chemical processed FOOD from McDonalds & burger King & buy it off the shelve from WalMart, But we all will take OUR SHAKES!
BTW, in real companies when they report data they actually show the studies and how those studies were conducted... like the 3 million lbs lost in a course of 24 mos. You know, that's what real companies do because if they don't they could be sued for truth in advertising, fraud, et al. My less intelligent friend who is trying desperately to get me involved keeps telling me how this company has grown at blue sky record numbers and that they're planning on going IPO next year. Well, my business degree (not from devry school of whatever/body by vi/that kenyan prince who wants to help me out with his international wire and ACH transfers/ co op) made the concept of a company going public for really 1 of 2 reasons. 1- they need more capital to continue expansion for various reasons or , 2- the founders want to cash in!!!#2 is almost always the case. when it comes to the pet rock international juggernaut companies such as this, there's always a pretty definitive shelf life of the company. i would be shocked if this was around 10 yrs from now but you know there's 17 fools sitting in a house born again every second...

you and your other friends can obviously try to come back and state this story or that story, but independent, credible data that actually shows a positive impact of health would be the only thing that would suffice. oh yes and clearly defining to all of your employees/consumers (how confused are you people seriously???) ARE THE REVENUE!!! I told my buddy that if I was really obese and was looking for a way to lose substantial weight fast like you claim ++ other lies... I would blow my $500 on some fucking meth. They don't call it the slim fastest diet for nothing... and all things being equal consumers of both products would still be comparably unhealthy... just thoroughly damaged from the crap someone sold to them.

but seriously, prove me wrong. I would love to see this fictitious family of yours and how you're all better now thanks to this wonder mana blessed upon yourselves by thee God's!!! Pics, anything for my personal enjoyment. Yes I'm an asshole, but I'm in ridiculous shape, because I do it the way its supposed to be done. also, you always lose money in the ponzi... do you get that? people like you make me feel like I am really superior... evolved or what have you. But seriously, my son is gonna be just fine when competing with your sickly ilk. please prove me wrong!!!
Army ABN INF Sniper

Austin, TX

#431 Sep 19, 2012
LaughingOutLoud wrote:
Can someone here define "Pyramid"? Somewhat confused???
I'm pretty sure that the body can't even intake 30 g's of protein in one meal anyways so yea that is even excessive. but the magnessium stearate (forgive the spelling) inhibits nutrient/calories being absorbed so essentially the obese people will have a filler meal with no nutritional value which will send their bodies into cannibalizing their excess storage i.e. their fat. but the muscle goes first so it's still damaging. this is just a joke and another lie. i had my friend tell me that he found the way to get a free bmw, not have to work hard at all and make a ton of money... i then demanded that he share the drugs he was taking cause i wanted to live in that world too.
Army ABN INF

United States

#432 Sep 19, 2012
Eat Right wrote:
<quoted text>
You Clearly dont understand how sales work.
Yes all of these people your talking about 'Know their place' but thats not sales. Thats labour jobs and typical retail, contractors, etc. Not everyone is cut out for sales and not everyone enjoys selling.
If you have a SALES job, you work for what your worth. Once again, NO i do not sell body by vi (in case your wondering). I work for a manufacturer that sells products to homebuilders and distributors. Do i know what I'm going to get paid!? No. Does that make it a scam!? NO
I go out and sell the products to homebuilders and distributors and that determines what i'm getting paid. And yes we are a very reputable company have been around for years, being used by home builders and distributors across Canada.
As i created more sales for the business and expanded our business, we needed to hire more sales people. Now since i helped start grow the business, I'm now a sales manager. As we expand even more, i will likely be a regional sales manager since i helped to expand the business, and without me they wouldnt have had all of the sales people under me.
hmmmmm... this must be a scam!! It sounds very similar to a pyramid scheme. But once again. Its NOT. Thats how most business' work. Some are more obvious than others. ITS SALES.
Talk about the product, don't talk about it being a 'scam' because of how it is sold. hahhaa.
Open your eyes and do some research on the product rather than bash business models that are all around you.
wow that was a piss poor example of corporate expansion and does not reflect that non mlm's, ie actual businesses with effective business models hire employees for all required positions. Furthermore, truly effective models know that to acquire and retain top performers in their given rules that they would not be hired on as 1099's and would include benefits packages such as medical, bonuses, vacations, retirement plans, non folktale share options, with a minimum of base salaries plus adjustable incentives based upon performance. I know thus because prior to webbing NY country i left a very nice high paying career in the banking industry and was head hunted not by my neighbor trying to shlep me crap shakes I'm iterated for free in my mre's. I went from being a branch managing loan officer to regional and loved winning all those bad ass vacations to Hawaii, St Barts, cozumel and so on. Prior to the crash by several years it was pretty obvious that the deregulation and open and unethical sub prime lending tactics being implemented everywhere was unsustainable so i went to accomplish another life goal and serve. The point is this, real companies provide an actual incentive for valued employees to stay and expand their business. They don't hold a fake carrot like a cheap base model 3 series in front of 19yr Olds. Hell even the army has retirement incentives. These guys don't expect to be around 5 yrs from now. They want to utilize your community assets, deplete them and hang out on a Caribbean island next to me while i get rewarded for bringing $82m in new gains during the fiscal yr. Sorry you fucking kids couldn't run a lemonade stand.
Army ABN INF

United States

#433 Sep 19, 2012
Stone Cold Steve Austin wrote:
<quoted text>
You're full of crap too, fatty.#1 you haven't lost weight, you're just a pusher trying to un-sully your product & #2 what you described is a weight watchers deit, save you are drinking one milkshake instead of two.
Imagine what you would have lost if you would have exercised as well. AND THATS THE BOTTOM LINE.
Furthermore the ingredients in the shake are pre filler that block intake of nutrients calories proteins and vitamins. So when the body is starved of essential life giving properties it cannibalizes the muscle first then the fat and finally the sinew hair ligaments nervous system etc. so an unregulated and extreme drop in weight is harmful to the body. Congratulations, you have effectively destroyed all the healthy tissue in your system and have still retained the fat because your cells never went thru the process of ketosis in which fat is expelled from the body thru consistent lower tempo labor. Skinny fat is still fat but as long as your delusions make you happy. Look, unless you have a legit medical reason for weight issues and there are legit reasons... You should look at it like this: you spent a lifetime turning yourself into useless piece of shit trying to claim under some pseudo American principle that you have the inalienable right to act like a lazy gluttonous fucking idiot and indulge at every opportunity. Now you want a quick fix out of it? Take some fucking accountability i mean you have children that are going to reflect on how you deal with your problems and they'll learn from you or despite you. It wasn't easy slamming down all those meals and constantly avoiding your health concerns... But its ok. The other idiot who thinks like you feel into the same trap. Btw, you should really go to a $cientology org and get audited. I think they could definitely help you with your selective scientific theories on how the world works.
Army ABN INF

United States

#434 Sep 19, 2012
chillax89 wrote:
<quoted text>
To be honest, if you haven't done it then you have no reason to go against it. My uncle is a huge part of this company. He does have a BMW and he doesn't pay anything on it. As well as the product does work. Not for everyone but it depends on well you follow it just like weight watchers or akins. He has lost over 25 lbs so far and you can see the difference. Just because it promotes weight loss a healthier envirment doesn't mean it's crap. I have tried it and it works. it keeps you full and is only 40 a month A WHOLE lot less then what you would be buying in normal groceries a day. It comes out to be just over a dollar a meal. I don't know who would complain about that.
You know that's what a gay friend keeps telling all the guys he his on... After all... If you never sucked a cock...how would you know its not your thing. So now that we've established your impeccable logic, Howe many homosexual experiences have you had? Uncle bad touch doesn't count! Everyone had that guy in their family so that's a no go. But in all truth, there is no conclusive data proving this is an effective dietary supplement. Customer testimonials are as subjective as your obsession with Dick... Get my point (figuratively speaking)? No triple blind studies by independent facilities just hear say from a friend of a friend. I've read the same marketing statistics regarding online reviews and consumer faith in them that your bosses have. Between that and the personal pressuring of selling to your own friends ponzi... Ahem mlm's utilize thus to the fullest while you and your extended network are out hard earned cash. You might have to pick up the night shift on the corner to mend some fences in your community... But that all depends on your next incident at pride parade.(notice: no gays were harmed in the making of this slanderous yet funny bashing... Although my 2 gay friends reading this are laughing their asses off and i think one of peepee'd just bit... No harm no foul).
Army ABN INF sniper

United States

#435 Sep 19, 2012
Alright, so my group of friends and i are pretty sure this would constitute "trolling" but its just too easy. We got approached from one of our friend who is all into this and i wish him the best but I'm not dropping $500 to pass out samples and hound my extended family and friends over something we know is just a fucking scam. So i don't feel bad about talking all this trash. Final note, one of my friends is a well established drug distributor and we were talking about how he fronts new clients samples in good faith to develop business and expand distribution channels. If these fucks believed that their product would sell fans over fist they would do the same like our local drug dealers, pharmaceuticals and other legit corporations. The reason they don't do that is because the product is not important, signing people up is. These entrepreneurs amass all the risk, product which is detested inventory almost immediately after it gets into your hands and they got what they wanted, you to relentlessly chase your friends and family around till they give in and hand over more money to the top. Even a fucking choke dealer knotted good product speaks for itself! Don't lose $500 to this place. For that money your could be in a gym with a trainer learning how to actually live, work and eat healthier and you would be happier that you did it the right way with a permanent and positive change in your quality of life. we should not be your God damn life coaches here people!
Ken

AOL

#436 Sep 23, 2012
I have so many people on facebook trying to get us to sign up or try the product, but when you ask them how does it work they say private e-mail or message me. They don't want to talk about it publicly. These shakes do make you lose weight by itself. You need exercise, a balanced diet and all the shake is, is a replacement for your snacks or in between meals filler. You can get all types of things like this at your local grocery store. I just wish they would be up front and say in order for you to make money or to get that Free "BMW", you have to make sales and the people on your team need to make sales or sign up new people. It is just like Amway, Metabolife, Shakelee and other Pryamid Companies. The products may be OK but the only ones that make money are the top two or three people like the CEO, President and or the Founder.
Get real

Ekron, KY

#437 Sep 24, 2012
from one who knows wrote:
If you really want to know all the truth about the visalus shakes why do u not take the time and find out all your info before posting. For Fact, there has been 3 million pounds lost in two years with this product. People are getting off their blood pressure medicatons and diabetics are having great success. There are some people who do not have success with this product but there are so many more that do. Cabell Huntington Hospital adopted this as their weight loss program and Doctors are endorsing it. So to this I say you may not have been successful but there are millions who have. There are other medical issu this has helped. Personally I have had great success on these products and feel great. Lose weight and get your product for free what other company does that?
The same effects can come from eating whole foods and a plant-based diet. Only the health effects though, not the BMW.
TFoxRN

Shasta Lake, CA

#438 Sep 29, 2012
I would like to share what happened to me personally while on the Body by VI diet. After a couple of weeks I experienced the following:
significant hair loss, hair became dry and brittle
cold intolerance
aggravating muscle and bone pain
extreme fatigue
depression, sadness, mood swings
and a NO WEIGHT LOSS!
Things finally came to a head one weekend when I thought I was losing my mind so I gave up on the diet. I hadn't made the connection until a week or two later when the my symptoms slowly started improving. I've been to the doctor twice because I felt so awful. I just had a whole list of labs done this morning, including a complete thyroid work up. My hairdresser told me this morning that she can see lots of new growth starting at my scalp. I have done some research about the effects of soy (which the shakes are made of) and found lots of info about problems between soy and hypothyroidism and also with estrogen.
I'm angry because I wanted to do the diet to get healthy and instead of I am worse of then when I started. I feel cheated out of $300 and my health.
I was dissapointed that the kit came with no information about how to incorporate the diet into life such as when to eat a normal meal or snacks. ALL AND ALL THE DIET APPEARS TO ME TO BE A SCAM TO PUT MONEY IN OTHERS POCKETS AT THE RISK OF OTHERS HEALTH!!!
Steph

Sulphur, OK

#439 Sep 30, 2012
It is not suggested to only drink shakes. You are supposed to eat at least one healthy meal a day, and if trying to lose weight, replace two meals with a shake. I personally mix other things in my shake. For example, oatmeal, fruit, yogurt, nuts.

The soy in the product has the isoflavones removed, so it has no effect on estrogen. I have no idea how you were actually drinking the shakes or if you were eating properly throughout the rest of your day. There are so many variables. Also, I'm sure there are promoters out there that are not being really helpful to their customers, just like with any other company. You have to find one that is willing to work with you. Not all products are for everyone, but, I've found that Vi is working for more people than any other product I've seen on the market.

I'm so sorry that you had this experience and I hope you feel better soon. The product does come with a 30 day money back guarantee, so, you could have gotten your $300 back.
All about the benjanins

Keokuk, IA

#440 Oct 5, 2012
The only PROVEN way to lose weight and keep it off is by making life style changes. Eat a healthier diet and do some physical activity. People will lose some weight with this garbage. But then again, if I replaced 2 meals a day with Dairy Queen milk shakes, I'll lose weight also. It's not healthy and it's not realistic to drink this crap for the rest of your life, although that is exactly what they want you to do. If the goal of the person selling you a diet product is to get a BMW, do you really think you can trust them? It's sad to see so many people wasting their hard earned money on this hoax.
jtho

Fort Mcmurray, Canada

#441 Nov 22, 2012
You people realize every single job in the world could be considered a pyramid scheme. What are you? An accountant? Administrative Assistant? Customer Service Rep? Project Manager? Ceo? No matter where you stand in a job, someone will always be above you. You will have a boss. If you own your own company, the government is your boss. No matter what, you are making the person above you (your boss) more money than what your working for. So, I rest my case with, I am an Isagenix consultant, I work for myself, no one is my boss. I get paid for the effort I put into educating people of this product. The rest of you unknowledgeable people can have fun hating your jobs and making someone else money.

Oh, and here's a video worth watching to open your ignorant eyes. These are scientists, Doctors, atheletes, nutritionist.. not random net work marketers who created a product to get rich off of. This company has been around for over ten years and has PROVEN scientific results.

http://isagenix.com/ca/en/areyoutoxic-promo.d...

One more thing
Any of you on Body By Vi, I will not trash the product, but do your research and have common sense - drinking shakes, and not working to lose weight is simply not healthy. Any doctor in the world will tell you that. Exercise is essential to your every day life. ALSO do yourself a favour and research Visceral fat. Just because you're skinny, or lost weight doesnt make you healthy.
Smarter than you idiots

United States

#443 Jan 5, 2013
ViSalus does not lease or buy cars. When you achieve that level you go on your own to lease or buy it. Secondly, you do not have to spend $500 a month and an event that cost $100 or more are only once a year and you don't have to go!!! It's your business and you run it as cheaply as you like. By the way, Amway fought the govt in court for years and they were declared a legal business model. This industry has created more millionaires than any other!!! I suggest looking at a pyramid and comparing that to most Fortune 500 companies. Guess what, there is one guy at the top and a whole bunch at the bottom. Get facts prior to acting like you know something.
Steve

Bolingbrook, IL

#445 Jan 29, 2013
mark wrote:
its a scam, straight up. anyone who disagrees is delusional. try eating fruits, veggies, and lean meat and exercising. you will be fair healthier, have alot more money in your pocket, and you won't be sucked into peddling their crap.
First of all if you don't know anything about their product, you should comment. I'll agree that real, whole foods are best for your body but I disagree on having more money in your pocket. You my friend my eat lean grain fed meat but try adding grass fed meat to your grocery list and see how much money you save. My wife and I are both bodybuilders so we know the cost of "good" food.

I challenge anyone of you naysayers to pull a product off the shelf that is 100% perfect. Won't happen, so why do you expect Visalus to be perfect. If its because of their claims well then all the transformations speak more than enough for that. People post about stuff they no nothing about, seriuosly, whats the difference between Visalus and Slimfast. Are you kidding me! Try reading the labels, that might give you a hint. And before I finish, our whole society from our government to corporate america is a damn pyramid. Bottom line is 95% of the people don't have or dont want to make time to shop, plan, prep food and all that good stuff so Vislaus is a hell of a lot healthier for you than going through the driveup window.
John Cougar Melloncamp

Honolulu, HI

#446 Feb 7, 2013
If you notice the top guys are all felons and have arrest records. The top guys in Hawaii all have huge criminal records.

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