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Bible study rules for public schools proposed

There are 141487 comments on the The Courier-Journal story from Feb 10, 2010, titled Bible study rules for public schools proposed. In it, The Courier-Journal reports that:

FRANKFORT, Ky. - The state would create rules for teaching about the Bible in public high schools under a bill filed Monday by three Democratic senators.

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Creation

Winchester, KY

#88436 Oct 12, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
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Bernie Madoff was Jewish in good standing... Just as everyone in the Old Testament.... Not Secular...
Oh excuse me, maybe I should have said Joseph Stalin.

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#88437 Oct 12, 2012
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Hahahaha!
That comes from someone who is 'Supposedly' Tax exempt!
How's those stats on satanic tortures, rapes, and murders coming?
You are confusing me with the christian cult

Murder, rape and pillage of the Midianites (Numbers 31:7-18 NLT)



They attacked Midian just as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed all the men. All five of the Midianite kings – Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba – died in the battle. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. Then the Israelite army captured the Midianite women and children and seized their cattle and flocks and all their wealth as plunder. They burned all the towns and villages where the Midianites had lived. After they had gathered the plunder and captives, both people and animals, they brought them all to Moses and Eleazar the priest, and to the whole community of Israel, which was camped on the plains of Moab beside the Jordan River, across from Jericho.



Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the people went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was furious with all the military commanders who had returned from the battle. "Why have you let all the women live?" he demanded. "These are the very ones who followed Balaam's advice and caused the people of Israel to rebel against the LORD at Mount Peor. They are the ones who caused the plague to strike the LORD's people. Now kill all the boys and all the women who have slept with a man. Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves
Murder Rape and Pillage (Deuteronomy 20:10-14)



As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.
Kill Old Men and Young Women

"You are my battle-ax and sword," says the LORD. "With you I will shatter nations and destroy many kingdoms. With you I will shatter armies, destroying the horse and rider, the chariot and charioteer. With you I will shatter men and women, old people and children, young men and maidens. With you I will shatter shepherds and flocks, farmers and oxen, captains and rulers. "As you watch, I will repay Babylon and the people of Babylonia for all the wrong they have done to my people in Jerusalem," says the LORD. "Look, O mighty mountain, destroyer of the earth! I am your enemy," says the LORD. "I will raise my fist against you, to roll you down from the heights. When I am finished, you will be nothing but a heap of rubble. You will be desolate forever. Even your stones will never again be used for building. You will be completely wiped out," says the LORD.(Jeremiah 51:20-26)

(Note that after God promises the Israelites a victory against Babylon, the Israelites actually get their butts kicked by them in the next chapter. So much for an all-knowing and all-powerful God.)
THIS IS YOUR EVIL CULT YAA
Repent

Lansing, MI

#88438 Oct 12, 2012
I would sincererly ask that you repent of your comments and deceptions before it is too late.

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#88439 Oct 12, 2012
Creation wrote:
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Oh excuse me, maybe I should have said Joseph Stalin.
Maybe you should have but would still have been specifically incorrect... As was written concerning Stalin, he was born a Orthodox Christian but considered Communism as a Religious construct.. So again.. Not Actually a Secularist...

"Communism was a comprehensive, all-embracing religion and not simply a political party, political system or philosophy. This fact is illustrated by the numerous ways in which Communism embraced and attemped to promulgate peculiar quasi-religious (and often clearly anti-scientific) beliefs which had nothing all to do with politics or government. Although Communism typically touted itself as anti-religious and pro-science, it was, in fact, deeply anti-scientific and clearly a religion. One of Communism's hallmarks in the Soviet Union and China was its aggressive and violent suppression of other religions. Communism was "anti-religious" only in the sense that it forcibly suppressed all religions other than itself."

From: Colin MacCabe, A Portrait of the Artist at Seventy, Farrar, Straus and Giroux, page 398:

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#88440 Oct 12, 2012
Repent wrote:
I would sincererly ask that you repent of your comments and deceptions before it is too late.
You can ask... But No thanks, I'll stand by my comments since none have ever been deceptive...

But let me point out a couple of problems with your thoughts...

I have to ask "Are there any Unforgivable Sins" .. Opinions vary.. But most say that Denying Christ or God is the One Unforgivable Sin... Since I have many times over my life done just that then why the heck would I repent? If I repent I still go straight to hell and do not pass go and collect $200... So If I can Repent and be Reborn as I am told then there cannot be any Unforgivable Sin, if there are no Unforgivable Sin's then there is no time limit on being forgiven... If there is Life after death then I see no biblical declaration that I can't ask for forgiveness after I croak...
Known fact

Cocoa Beach, FL

#88441 Oct 12, 2012
"Babylon the Great" What is it?

Why can religions that profess to be Christian properly be viewed as a part of Babylon the Great, along with those who know nothing of the God of the Bible?
Jas. 4:4:“Adulteresses, do you not know that the friendship with the world is enmity with God? Whoever, therefore, wants to be a friend of the world is constituting himself an enemy of God.”(So, though they know what the Bible says about God, they make themselves his enemies if they choose friendship with the world by imitating its ways.)
2 Cor. 4:4; 11:14, 15:“The god of this system of things has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, that the illumination of the glorious good news about the Christ, who is the image of God, might not shine through.”“Satan himself keeps transforming himself into an angel of light. It is therefore nothing great if his ministers also keep transforming themselves into ministers of righteousness. But their end shall be according to their works.”(Thus Jehovah’s chief adversary, Satan the Devil himself, is really being honored by all who do not worship the true God in the manner that He has appointed, even though they may claim to be Christians. See also 1 Corinthians 10:20.)
Matt. 7:21-23:“Not everyone saying to me [Jesus Christ],‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will. Many will say to me in that day,‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your name?’ And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew you! Get away from me, you workers of lawlessness.”

Why is it urgent to get out of Babylon the Great without delay?
Rev. 18:4:“Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues.”
Rev. 18:21:“A strong angel lifted up a stone like a great millstone and hurled it into the sea, saying:‘Thus with a swift pitch will Babylon the great city be hurled down, and she will never be found again.’”
Luke 21:36:“Keep awake, then, all the time making supplication that you may succeed in escaping all these things that are destined to occur, and in standing before the Son of man.”
What will happen to people who did not know Bible truth but lived and died in the past as part of Babylon the Great?
Acts 17:30:“God has overlooked the times of such ignorance, yet now he is telling mankind that they should all everywhere repent.”
Acts 24:15:“There is going to be a resurrection of both the righteous and the unrighteous.”(As to which ones of “the unrighteous” will be raised, God will decide.)
Job 34:12:“For a fact, God himself does not act wickedly, and the Almighty himself does not pervert judgment.”
Known fact

Cocoa Beach, FL

#88442 Oct 12, 2012
Where Is True Christianity?
Historical facts reveal the truth behind the “greatness” of Constantine. Instead of being founded by Jesus Christ, the Head of the true Christian congregation, Christendom is partly the result of the political expediency and the crafty maneuvers of a pagan emperor. Very aptly, historian Paul Johnson asks:“Did the empire surrender to Christianity, or did Christianity prostitute itself to the empire?”-Revelation chapters 17 & 18 gives the answer!
All those who really want to adhere to pure Christianity can be helped to recognize and associate with the true Christian congregation today. Jehovah’s Witnesses worldwide are more than willing to help honesthearted people to identify true Christianity and to worship God in the way acceptable to him.—John 4:23, 24.
Creation

Winchester, KY

#88443 Oct 12, 2012
Quantummist wrote:
<quoted text>
Maybe you should have but would still have been specifically incorrect... As was written concerning Stalin, he was born a Orthodox Christian but considered Communism as a Religious construct.. So again.. Not Actually a Secularist...
"Communism was a comprehensive, all-embracing religion and not simply a political party, political system or philosophy. This fact is illustrated by the numerous ways in which Communism embraced and attemped to promulgate peculiar quasi-religious (and often clearly anti-scientific) beliefs which had nothing all to do with politics or government. Although Communism typically touted itself as anti-religious and pro-science, it was, in fact, deeply anti-scientific and clearly a religion. One of Communism's hallmarks in the Soviet Union and China was its aggressive and violent suppression of other religions. Communism was "anti-religious" only in the sense that it forcibly suppressed all religions other than itself."
From: Colin MacCabe, A Portrait of the Artist at Seventy, Farrar, Straus and Giroux, page 398:
"You know, they are fooling us, there is no God...all this talk about God is sheer nonsense" - Joseph Stalin in E. Yaroslavsky, Landmarks in the Life of Stalin, Foreign Languages Publishing House, Moscow 1940
Creation

Winchester, KY

#88444 Oct 12, 2012
Creation wrote:
<quoted text>
"You know, they are fooling us, there is no God...all this talk about God is sheer nonsense" - Joseph Stalin in E. Yaroslavsky, Landmarks in the Life of Stalin, Foreign Languages Publishing House, Moscow 1940
Although raised in the Georgian Orthodox faith, Stalin was an atheist. Stalin followed the position adopted by Lenin that religion was an opiate that needed to be removed in order to construct the ideal communist society. His government promoted atheism through special atheistic education in schools, anti-religious propaganda, the antireligious work of public institutions (Society of the Godless), discriminatory laws, and a terror campaign against religious believers. By the late 1930s it had become dangerous to be publicly associated with religion.[88]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Stalin

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#88445 Oct 12, 2012
Creation wrote:
<quoted text>
"You know, they are fooling us, there is no God...all this talk about God is sheer nonsense" - Joseph Stalin in E. Yaroslavsky, Landmarks in the Life of Stalin, Foreign Languages Publishing House, Moscow 1940
Disbelief in God, Gods, Goddesses, is not Secularism...

SECULARISM
: indifference to or rejection or exclusion of religion and religious considerations.....

In the case of Stalin Communism was a religion as much as it was a political concept....
Creation

Winchester, KY

#88446 Oct 12, 2012
"The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a condition that requires illusions. The criticism of religion is, therefore, in embryo, the criticism of that vale of tears of which religion is the halo."-Karl Marx

Yep, Atheism is the religion of Marx.

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#88447 Oct 12, 2012
Yes and Amen wrote:
<quoted text>Hahahaha!
How did I KNOW you guys would deny anything, and everything
that might just prove you wrong!
Even you will know the truth @ your last breath...
We just hope it's before then!
Denial is not a river in Egypt... God is real!
I'm glad you know by now that I actually investigate your frauds and snake oil salesmen. A smitten of geographic knowledge of Egypt is a start, but might I suggest textbooks that are written by REAL college grads?

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#88448 Oct 12, 2012
Creation wrote:
"The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a condition that requires illusions. The criticism of religion is, therefore, in embryo, the criticism of that vale of tears of which religion is the halo."-Karl Marx
Yep, Atheism is the religion of Marx.
No, Communism was the religion of Marx.... It was based on a Belief without evidence of it's inception.. Communism requires Belief in the perfection of it's classes... And requires all other religious views be rejected...

Atheism has a couple of variations... But in none is it a Religion as it Does Not Believe... I do not believe there is a God is not the same as I Believe God does not exist... I Believe God does not exist can be considered Religious in nature but is not the position of any Atheist I have ever spoken too...

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#88449 Oct 12, 2012
Known fact wrote:
Where Is True Christianity?
Historical facts reveal the truth behind the “greatness” of Constantine. Instead of being founded by Jesus Christ, the Head of the true Christian congregation, Christendom is partly the result of the political expediency and the crafty maneuvers of a pagan emperor. Very aptly, historian Paul Johnson asks:“Did the empire surrender to Christianity, or did Christianity prostitute itself to the empire?”-Revelation chapters 17 & 18 gives the answer!
All those who really want to adhere to pure Christianity can be helped to recognize and associate with the true Christian congregation today. Jehovah’s Witnesses worldwide are more than willing to help honesthearted people to identify true Christianity and to worship God in the way acceptable to him.—John 4:23, 24.
Bull excrement, christianity is well represented by you and chester, full of lies, bearing false witness with the intent to hate. The use of fear as a tool to convert others to your beliefs. Hypocrites in all you post. Your god of the christian bible does not exist, you accept imagination as real and christianity has used it for hatred, there are no innocent christians all are quilty of crimes against humanity and one day will answer for it, and man will judge you. Keep your belief at home, also as chester should do, leave the children alone. To push christianity is to enable the hatred which is it's foundation.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#88450 Oct 12, 2012
Creation wrote:
"The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is the demand for their real happiness. To call on them to give up their illusions about their condition is to call on them to give up a condition that requires illusions. The criticism of religion is, therefore, in embryo, the criticism of that vale of tears of which religion is the halo."-Karl Marx
Yep, Atheism is the religion of Marx.
Atheism is not a religion, why do you religies lie, amazing.

“There is no god.”

Since: Jan 12

USA

#88451 Oct 12, 2012
Repent wrote:
I would sincererly ask that you repent of your comments and deceptions before it is too late.
I sincerely ask that you stick your repent and deceptions, based on a fictional boogieman, up your religious ass. Thank you.

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#88452 Oct 12, 2012
LOL in a suit wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheism is not a religion, why do you religies lie, amazing.
So is the opposition of the christian cult a religion?

“See how you are?”

Since: Jul 12

Earth

#88453 Oct 12, 2012
LOL in a suit wrote:
<quoted text>
Atheism is not a religion, why do you religies lie, amazing.
It's the typical circular logic, and you might as well argue with a rock. The rock cannot comprehend that all other things around it are not also stone, and the faithful cannot comprehend a mindset that doesn't revolve around fantasy and superstition.
How can you expect people who are not honest with themselves to be honest regarding others?

“Speaker of Mountain Wisdom....”

Since: Jan 10

London, KY

#88454 Oct 12, 2012
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>So is the opposition of the christian cult a religion?
IMHO... Nope...
Creation

Winchester, KY

#88455 Oct 12, 2012
http://www.conservapedia.com/Atheism_and_comm...

Both are one and the same. Atheism and Communism.

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