Former members of Sheperds Chapel
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Richmond, KY

#1586 Mar 3, 2011
Emily Prevost (associate director of the Center for Effective Leadership of the Baptist General Convention of Texas): A clergy abuse survivor wrote to the Baptist General Convention of Texas saying that she was raped by a Texas Baptist minister when she was an adolescent girl, that the man was still a minister, and that she was hurt by the fact that no one helped her the first time she contacted the BGCT. Emily Prevost wrote back saying that the BGCT didn’t receive clergy abuse reports from victims and telling her that she should take her information to the church.(email correspondence of June 7, 2007) It’s the typical Baptist leader response, and it’s flat-out cruel. It’s like telling bloody sheep to go to the den of the wolf who savaged them.

Mike Roy (former pastor of First Baptist Church of Greenwood, MO): Allowed a staff minister to continue working with kids for four months after police notified him that the minister was under investigation for child sex abuse. Authorities believe the minister was able to abuse at least 2 more boys during that time. In what was later described as “Missouri’s biggest clergy sex abuse” case, the minister whom Roy shielded was ultimately convicted of molesting numerous Missouri church boys, and he was also convicted of molesting children at 3 Kentucky Baptist churches where he worked previously.

Charles Stanley (former SBC president and senior pastor of First Baptist Church of Atlanta): Representatives of his church ran SNAP members off the premises and called the police on them when they tried to leaflet church members with information about their prior children’s minister who was known to have a substantiated report of sexually abusing a kid in Texas. Stanley didn’t respond to SNAP’s letter informing him of the rude treatment and asking to speak.
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Richmond, KY

#1587 Mar 3, 2011
Wayne Stockstill (former 2-term president of the California Southern Baptist Convention and senior pastor of FBC-Hesperia): Rationalized his do-nothingness by saying he “erred on the side of grace” when he kept quiet about a deacon’s molestation of children in his church. Police believe there were more victims.

Jim Townsley (senior pastor of Central Baptist Church in Southington, CT): When a girl told Townsley about having been sexually abused by another minister in the church, Townsley confronted the minister, who “admitted to inappropriate behavior,”“denied having done anything more than kissing and fondling,” and suggested that the fault was with the girl. Townsley didn’t report it to police, and allowed the man to resign and move to Tennessee. A couple years later, after an anonymous phone call, Townsley was caught and convicted of sexual assault. Townsley then described the church’s secretive manner of dealing with it as “biblical.”

Sam Underwood (pastor FBC-Farmers Branch, TX): Shepherded his church to threaten suit against a person reporting a prior minister for child molestation, even though another staff minister had already substantiated the abuse report.

Jerry Vines (former SBC president and former senior pastor of FBC-Jacksonville, FL):“Agreed to forgive” pastor Darrell Gilyard for his “out-of-state troubles” and helped give Gilyard credibility in Florida. Gilyard had over 40 complaints of sexual abuse in Texas, and eventually he was convicted on child sex crimes in Florida. Vines also sang the praises of Trinity Baptist Church in Jacksonville, Florida, even while numerous reports of child sex abuse and cover-ups were being reported ... and without even so much as mentioning any concern for the scandal.

Bobby Welch (former SBC president, former longtime pastor of FBC-Daytona Beach, FL, and current SBC strategist for global evangelical relations): While SBC president, he received a substantiated report about a minister’s sexual abuse of a kid, and responded through the SBC’s attorney to say that the SBC had no record the man was still in ministry. As it turned out, the man was indeed still in ministry, had been in very prominent churches, and was at a Florida church not far from Welch’s own church.

Stephen Wilson (SBC Executive Committee member and vice-president of academic affairs at Mid-Continent University): Chaired the Southern Baptist Convention’s do-nothing subcommittee that 8600 delegates directed to study Baptist clergy sex abuse but that, in actuality, never even had a budget for any study.
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Richmond, KY

#1588 Mar 3, 2011
....baps wrote that we need to find a good baptist church....YE SHALL KNOW THEM BY THEIR FRUITS....and ALL the above show NO good fruits..
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Richmond, KY

#1589 Mar 3, 2011
What message do Baptist leaders send to clergy abuse victims by this conduct?

Answer: "What happened to you doesn't matter. Go away. Shut up."


What message do Baptist leaders send to clergy perpetrators by this conduct?

Answer: "You're safe with us. We'll cover for you."

"The motivation of those in power...was to protect an institution...to further secure the power of individual men....
No reputation, and no power, that is built on lies and on
the cover-up of serious crimes, is worth protecting."

- Prof. Marci Hamilton
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Richmond, KY

#1590 Mar 3, 2011
Catholics and Baptists Have Different Sacraments but Similar Child Abuse Scandals
By: Robert Parham
Posted: Sunday, April 4, 2010 10:33 pm
Section: Editorials Email
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Protecting the Baptist denomination and churches from public humiliation has been a higher priority for many Baptist leaders than protecting children from predatory ministers, Parham writes.(Photo: D Sharon Pruitt)
Addressing the sexual abuse scandal in the Catholic Church, conservative columnist Cal Thomas wrote in a syndicated piece before Easter that the sexual scandals in Catholicism and Protestantism were different.
After rightfully acknowledging that Protestants have their own "blemished history" and listing examples of the "hall of shame," Thomas contended that the difference between Protestants and Catholics was that the sexual scandals in Protestantism were "between consenting adults."
He did not excuse such behavior, referring to it as sin.
Nonetheless, his framing of the differences is inexcusable. He has led his readers to believe that the sexual abuse of children by clergy isn't a Protestant problem. That, of course, is a tragic misunderstanding.
Perhaps Thomas is uninformed about the preachers who prey on children in the Southern Baptist Convention in particular and the Baptists in general, a scandal that has been exhaustively covered on EthicsDaily.com with well over 100 articles. He is certainly unfamiliar with Christa Brown, founder of Stop Baptist Predators and Baptist coordinator for the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, who has tirelessly sought to rip off the cover of secrecy within Baptist life and to press Baptists to reform their practices.
If Thomas is uninformed about the Baptist child-abuse scandal, then Baptist denominational leaders have successfully kept the shameful, systemic problem off the national media's radar.
Protecting the Baptist denomination and churches from public humiliation and discrediting has been a higher priority for many Baptist leaders than protecting children from the predatory ministers – ministers who move from church to church, state to state, without punishment, only to harm again.
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Richmond, KY

#1591 Mar 3, 2011
...cont,
One Baptist state convention even dismissed a staff member after his reporting on a preacher predator in an apparent effort to protect the preacher and the organization.
A Fox News commentator and a former vice president of the Moral Majority (1980-85), Thomas does strike a note for justice, however.
"The Catholic Church must be held accountable. A formal investigation should be conducted, which exempts no one, including the pope. It should be run by people not in the church hierarchy or beholden to it. Anything less will not satisfy public opinion, much less a Higher Authority," wrote Thomas.
The same recommendation should be applied in Baptist life. Granted Baptists are non-hierarchical. Baptists lack the formal structure of bishops, cardinals and a pope. Baptists lack the centralized authority, claiming churches are autonomous.
But as an EthicsDaily.com editorial pointed out two years ago, the shield of local church autonomy is a false one that should not be used to protect predatory preachers and that Baptist leaders know too well about the official church connectivity and "unofficial web of clergy connectivity."
The editorial argued that the biblical concept of church autonomy should not be used to override the biblical concept of protecting the vulnerable.
While Baptist church polity is messier and more confusing than Catholic polity, both traditions do share another commonality on the clergy child-abuse front – the primacy of orthodoxy, right belief, over orthopraxy, right behavior.
News stories have repeatedly portrayed Pope Benedict XVI, as a cardinal in Germany and an official at the Vatican, as being more interested in rooting out theological corruption than moral corruption of pedophile priests and their enablers. Called "God's Rottweiler," he was interested in punishing priests for theological differences with the church, such as liberation theologians, and turned a blind eye to priests who molested children.
Baptists, too, have leaders who are fixated more on everyone agreeing with their theological interpretation of every jot and tittle than with creating a workable system that protects children from predatory preachers.
Catholic and Baptist leaders have more similarities than differences on the child-abuse front. Both have harmed church members and the Christian witness by not swiftly addressing predatory clergy and designing reliable protective systems.
And both have covered up predatory behavior until those outside the male-dominated system of preachers/priests rang the alarm bell.
Sacraments may differ. But the systems, secrecy and spin are similar – and shameful.
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Richmond, KY

#1592 Mar 3, 2011
Ministers who have brought scandal to the Southern Baptist Convention: A-K

These are just SOME of the men who have brought scandal to the Southern Baptist Convention. It is only the tip of the iceberg.

The Southern Baptist Convention does not make denominational assessments of "credibly accused" clergy child molesters in the way that Catholics and other major Protestant groups do. Nor does it keep records on clergy who admit to facts constituting child sex abuse. Nor does it have denominational processes for "defrocking" clergy or revoking their credentials. Among Baptists, these sorts of cases stay largely hidden.

These names represent only publicly-reported news accounts involving Baptist clergy.

Ralph Lee Aaron (AL)

Robert Harvey Alexander (FL)(deacon)

Joshua Allen (TX)

Daniel Earl Allmond (FL)

Dale "Dickie" Amyx (TX)

John Anderson (AL, MS)

Andrew Argent (TX)

Matt Baker (TX)

Tim Ballard (AR)(church-school principal)

Joe Barron (TX)

Donald Chrisler Batson (SC)

Jeremy Benack (PA)

Robert M. Black (MO)

Jason Bolton (VA)

John Bonine (CA)

Walter Bowen (AL)

Gregory "Lee" Bowman (AL)

Mark Lewis Brooks (MO)

Russell Dwain Brooks (GA)

Lonnie Broome (FL)

W. Frank Brown (TX, IL)

Jim Kilburn Bruce (FL)(deacon)

Timothy Brumit (SC)

Charles W. "Chuck" Bryan, Jr.(OK)

Timothy Neal Byars (TN)

Guy Ellis Carr, Jr.(NC)(deacon)

Jeffrey Lamar Carter (FL)

Stephen Wayne Carter (NC, Int'l Mission Bd)

Jerry Dale Carver (TX)

Gordon Christopher (AZ)

Dennis Ray Collins (VA)

Ollin Collins (TX)

Jacob Conder (KY)

Joseph Edmund Conger (MO)

Michael Alan Crippen (MO)

Shawn Davies (MO, KY, MI)

Doug Davis (OK)

Christopher Decaire (AZ)

Gregory Dempsey (TN)

John Wayne Diehl (KY)

Timothy Dillmuth (NH)(failure to report)

Jeremy 'Jack' Ryan Duffer (VA, HI)

Garett Dykes (AL)

Stephen Lee Edmonds (deacon)(FL)

Richard Eland (deacon)(NH)(failure to report)

Thomas L. Elliott (NC)

Zachary Reed Emerson (AL)

Timothy Felts (TN)

Sigifrido Flores (TX)

Shane Flournoy (TX)

Jermey Patrick Gable (FL)

Robert Gagnon (deacon)(NH)(failure to report)

Andres Garcia (CA)

Luis Federico Garcia (AL)

Keith Geren (FL)

Jonathan Tyler Giles (TN)

Tommy Gilmore (FL, GA, TX)

Darrell Gilyard (FL, TX)

Gregory Charles Goben (TX)

Brian "Doug" Goodrich, Jr.(NC)

Robert Gray (FL)

James Griffin (LA)

Gary Hambright (CA)

Timothy Han (CA)

Steven Haney (TN)

Jeffrey Hannah (IL)

James Benjamin Harris (GA)

Benton Gray Harvey (Intl'l Mission Bd, AL)(fraud)

Emmett Hayslip (OK, ND)

George Hendon (MO)(deacon chair)

Roy Mace Honeycutt (NC)

David Hoschar (TN)

John Hubner (ME, SC)

Forrest Lee Hudson (WA)

Joshua Humphrey (GA)

Jerry Hutcheson (FL, AL)

Joshua Ross Hyles (TX)

Fritzner Jean (FL)

Bernard "Bernie" Johnson (TX)

Michael Lee Jones (TX)

Thomas Reid Jones (TX)

Joel Dean Joslin (TX)

Norman Henley Keesee (SC)

Keith Daniel Kiger (AR)

Marion Leon Kosier, Jr.(SC)
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Richmond, KY

#1593 Mar 3, 2011
Ministers who brought scandal to the Southern Baptist Convention: L-Z

These are just SOME of the men who have brought scandal to the Southern Baptist Convention. It is only the tip of the iceberg.

Kevin Othell Laferney (TX)

John Lau (NY, Army)

Russell Dion Lewis (FL)

Stephen Livingston (TX)

Roy Long (deacon)(CA)

Daniel J. Lowhorn (TN)

Mark Kit Lucas (GA)

Gordon H. Lunceford (KY)

Donald C. McCary (TN)

Robert McClurg (TX)

Terry McDowell (MO)

John O. McKay (TX)

Mark Woodson Mangrum (TN)

Timothy Mann (MD, AL, FL)

Leslie Mason (IL)

William "Mac" McElrath (Int'l Mission Bd)

Billie Lewis Minson (TX)

Daniel J. Moore (IN)

Doug Myers (FL, AL, MD)

Larry Nuell Neathery (TX)

Kevin Ogle (GA, SC)

Michael Wayne O'Guin (TX)

Donald Brent Page (AL)

Kenneth Payne (VA)

David Pierce (AR)

Joshua Neal Ponder (TX)

Norman Pugh (GA)

Timothy Lee Reddin (AR)

Larry Reynolds (TX)

Timothy Scott Richerson (KY)

Robert N. Riddle (AL, FL)(fraud on elderly)

Robert Riffle (TX)(deacon)

Morris David Roberts (TX)

Marshal Seymour (MS, AL, FL)

Richard Frank Shaw (KY)

Paul Shives (NC)(deacon)

Frank Sizemore (TX)

David Slone (OK, CO)

Billy Ray Smith (OK)

Joshua Spires (OK)

Bernard Squires (IN)

Nathan St. Pierre (KY)

Billy Ray Smith (OK)(volunteer youth worker)

Hezekiah Stallworth (TX)

Richard Steven Sweat (FL)

Justin Eugene Taylor (NC)

Phillip Glenn Terrell (GA)

Drew A. Underwood (KY)

Sam Underwood (TX)

Terry VanHoutan (IA)

Minh Van Nguyen (CA)

George "Tom" Wade, Jr.(AK, Int'l Mission Bd)

Kenneth Ward (TX)

Robert John Weber (TX)

Sean David Whisenhunt (OK)

Stephen Lyle Whittaker (FL)

Paul Williams (TN)

Charles "Rick" Willits (TX)

Matthew Darren Wood (TX, AR)

Franklin Wray (TX)

Scott Dewayne Wright (FL)

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Richmond, KY

#1594 Mar 3, 2011
Believer 333 wrote:
<quoted text>Ok....so now I guess you really do know everything. You need a good Baptist church, Jeanie. One that teaches sound doctrine. Cause you sure ain't getting any sound doctrine sitting on your rear listening to Murray.
...Which of the above is a "good" baptist church that teaches sound doctrine??????????
Believer 333

Highlandville, MO

#1595 Mar 3, 2011
watch wrote:
<quoted text>
eye that hears
Chicago, IL
Reply »
|Report Abuse |Judge it!|#48 Nov 9, 2010
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believer 333 wrote:
<quoted text>Then the Father is a person. That's why Jesus was talking to him. If God was not 3 persons, then Jesus would have been talking to Himself. No sarcasm intended.
Quit following baptist traditions
its blasphemey to believe in more than one god
Deuteronomy 4:39
The LORD he is God in heaven above, and upon the earth beneath: there is none else.
Deuteronomy 6:4
Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord.
Deuteronomy 32:39
See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me.
1 Kings 18:39
The LORD, he is the God; the LORD, he is the God.
Isaiah 43:10
I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
Isaiah 44:8
Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any.
Isaiah 45:5-6
I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me.
Isaiah 46:9
I am God, and there is none else: I am God, and there is none like me.
Mark 12:29
The Lord our God is
one Lord.
Mark 12:32
There is one God; and there is none other but he.
John 17:3
That they might know thee the only true God.
1 Corinthians 8:6
But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him.
I do not believe in more than one God. There is only one. But....God manifests Himself to us as three persons. You are in grave doctrinal error Miss Watch. You still need the milk.
watch

Richmond, KY

#1596 Mar 3, 2011
Believer 333 wrote:
<quoted text>I do not believe in more than one God. There is only one. But....God manifests Himself to us as three persons. You are in grave doctrinal error Miss Watch. You still need the milk.
...LOL,..and you belong to a "good" baptist church with sound doctrine as all the above I posted.......WOE and SHAME to you!
Believer 333

Highlandville, MO

#1597 Mar 3, 2011
watch wrote:
<quoted text>
...LOL,..and you belong to a "good" baptist church with sound doctrine as all the above I posted.......WOE and SHAME to you!
so my question to you is: are you saying I advocate child molesting and sexual abuse because I am Baptist? That is a yes or no question.
Jeanie

Huntsville, AL

#1598 Mar 3, 2011
Hummmm Watch ,these baptists sho do seem like they could teach me a lotta good things don't they?
watch

Richmond, KY

#1599 Mar 3, 2011
Believer 333 wrote:
<quoted text>so my question to you is: are you saying I advocate child molesting and sexual abuse because I am Baptist? That is a yes or no question.
....Yoked together is Yoked together

Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

1 Tim 5:24 Some men's sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; and some men they follow after.

5:25 Likewise also the good works of some are manifest beforehand; and they that are otherwise cannot be hid.

6:1 Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honour, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed.
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Richmond, KY

#1600 Mar 3, 2011
Jeanie wrote:
Hummmm Watch ,these baptists sho do seem like they could teach me a lotta good things don't they?
...Sweetie,..I haven't even begun to skim the surface yet...Not that I'm surprized,...but the more I see, the more shocking it gets....Babs is yoked up with one "good" church there ....NOT...
watch

Richmond, KY

#1601 Mar 3, 2011
watch wrote:
<quoted text>
...Sweetie,..I haven't even begun to skim the surface yet...Not that I'm surprized,...but the more I see, the more shocking it gets....Babs is yoked up with one "good" church there ....NOT...
....and don't you think this is one good reason God is calling His people OUT of Babylon/confusion....
Believer 333

Highlandville, MO

#1602 Mar 3, 2011
watch wrote:
<quoted text>
....Yoked together is Yoked together
Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.
1 Tim 5:24 Some men's sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; and some men they follow after.
5:25 Likewise also the good works of some are manifest beforehand; and they that are otherwise cannot be hid.
6:1 Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honour, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed.
You dodged my question. I expected as much.
watch

Richmond, KY

#1603 Mar 3, 2011
watch wrote:
<quoted text>
....and don't you think this is one good reason God is calling His people OUT of Babylon/confusion....
Come Out Of Her And Come Out Of Them
watch

Richmond, KY

#1604 Mar 3, 2011
Believer 333 wrote:
<quoted text>You dodged my question. I expected as much.
....I dodged NOTHING...You dodge everything....
....Yoked together is Yoked together

Galatians 5:1 Stand fast therefore in the liberty wherewith Christ hath made us free, and be not entangled again with the yoke of bondage.

1 Tim 5:24 Some men's sins are open beforehand, going before to judgment; and some men they follow after.

5:25 Likewise also the good works of some are manifest beforehand; and they that are otherwise cannot be hid.

6:1 Let as many servants as are under the yoke count their own masters worthy of all honour, that the name of God and his doctrine be not blasphemed.
watch

Richmond, KY

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