Teacher arrested for allegedly beatin...

Teacher arrested for allegedly beating his kids

There are 29 comments on the Farmington Daily Times story from Jan 28, 2011, titled Teacher arrested for allegedly beating his kids. In it, Farmington Daily Times reports that:

Grants police say a high school teacher has been arrested after he allegedly beat two of his children with a stick inside a locker room at Grants High School.

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Nobama

Albuquerque, NM

#22 Jan 31, 2011
MelanieThinker wrote:
Oh, so now this is considered beating. There was a time when schools had fairly thick wood paddles with which to administer corporal punishment. Many teachers took great pride in doing so, and as long as the "swats" were placed in the correct area (buttocks), it was considered fine, and even admirable.
Some states and districts still allow this.
So, in some states, this is barbaric, but in others it's admirable? hmmmmm
For the record, I am not for corporal punishment in schools.
Oh melvin, you ignorant transvestite ho, your against it because you got beat too much on your fat but and began to like it? I'm sure you alter-ero Dickie Diarhea will pop up and pat yourself on the back.
SomeOneElse

Salt Lake City, UT

#23 Jan 31, 2011
MT you see the 'glass' half empty don't you. I see on the News today where the "school systems" are in deep do-do. You can't have the Administrators and the students running the program. Teachers need to teach. Teachers need to have the authority to maintain discipline. Good teachers are vital, however we are over loaded with "Administrative" people who don't teach anything, and Parents who expect the teacher to be the parent, and the lawyers who love it all. The School system is farked up, plain and simple. Good news is, you're not going to get it fixed. Can't be done. Too top heavy and the Million Dollar Administrators will not go....Home Schooling if you want your children to thrive, that and teach them to speak Chinese. There going to need it. Can you even imagine America if we were not the Largest Military in the World? WE would not be here folks. No body like us, and we spend (your tax dollars) Billions and Billions in Foreign Aid each year to people who hate us. We try to buy friendship and respect, with "Chinese money"...funny.
Just Common Cents

Chinle, AZ

#24 Jan 31, 2011
Melanie Thinker wrote:
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There may be two sides to every story, as you so well-stated, but my earlier reply to the enraged teacher falls into the category of the example you mentioned in your post--the use, severity and duration of corporal punishment being dependent upon the level of anger of the teacher.
THAT is ridiculous, and since teachers are often full of rage at their students....I mean, after all, if it were not for the kids, many might love their jobs (eye-roll).....they have no business "hitting" them. Who knows, they might be REALLY mad and REALLY go overboard.
Is that what a paddling is all about--the teacher's anger?
I'll probably get beat with a wet noodle, butttt: I believe there more teachers out there "loving their profession" for all the wrong reasons. I know for a fact that many students I went to college with dropped out of science curriculums and headed "up the hill" and got into education because it was easy to get through. Many of these rejects go through life frustrated and finding opportunity to punish innocent victims of their own circumstances. One I know ended up being a shop teacher in high school. I talked to him after retired. He stated that his life was a complete failure and he was ready to "check it in". His job provided him the "opportunity" to hate Natives. I would say that 33.3 percent of teachers should not even be in the class room. Just look at the achievement tests. One kid I hired to buck bales for us last summer graduated from high school could not read. That is sad. Bottom line, teachers should not be allowed to "spank" students. Just speaking from my own experience. Kind of like the death penalty, one mistake is too much.
Just Common Cents

Chinle, AZ

#25 Jan 31, 2011
SomeOne Else wrote:
MT you see the 'glass' half empty don't you. I see on the News today where the "school systems" are in deep do-do. You can't have the Administrators and the students running the program. Teachers need to teach. Teachers need to have the authority to maintain discipline. Good teachers are vital, however we are over loaded with "Administrative" people who don't teach anything, and Parents who expect the teacher to be the parent, and the lawyers who love it all. The School system is farked up, plain and simple. Good news is, you're not going to get it fixed. Can't be done. Too top heavy and the Million Dollar Administrators will not go....Home Schooling if you want your children to thrive, that and teach them to speak Chinese. There going to need it. Can you even imagine America if we were not the Largest Military in the World? WE would not be here folks. No body like us, and we spend (your tax dollars) Billions and Billions in Foreign Aid each year to people who hate us. We try to buy friendship and respect, with "Chinese money"...funny.
There is much wisdom in your words, except for your perspective on discipline. If students are disruptive, they should be sent out of the classroom. If three sessions of counseling does not work. Send them home for the parents for the parents to discipline. I think that's why they have "alternative" schools. Just a place to "house" the distractions, until they end up in Juvenile hall or prison. Society has a cubby-hole for everybody. We find our own "comfort" zone. Morticians love the gang culture. Good for business.
fools knowledge

Salt Lake City, UT

#26 Jan 31, 2011
Just Common Cents wrote:
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There is much wisdom in your words, except for your perspective on discipline. If students are disruptive, they should be sent out of the classroom. If three sessions of counseling does not work. Send them home for the parents for the parents to discipline. I think that's why they have "alternative" schools. Just a place to "house" the distractions, until they end up in Juvenile hall or prison. Society has a cubby-hole for everybody. We find our own "comfort" zone. Morticians love the gang culture. Good for business.
You piece of Liberal S/hit! If "Disruptive" sent out of class room? Three "Sessions" of Counseling? Bitch Slap the little s/hit and be done with it. Then send him/her/it to the Vice-Principle with a 'note' to paddle his butt "hard". If you can teach a dog to mind, you can teach a child. Send them home to their "parents"? Hell, in 90% of the cases it's the Parents that are the problem. An Apple doen's fall far from tthe tree. Alternative school? I'll tell you an alternative school...the U.S. Military! School today is a joke. After the 6th grade it is a "day care center" for teenagers. You have Administrative people running the school who don't teach a thing but make 85% of the salary. Bad teachers are rewarded, good teachers are not....The whole system sucks. Kids will 'respect' discipline. That is why the 'military' works. Knock the crap out of them once, and you will not have to do it again. Or, after the "3rd" time, kick there butt out of school.
Jess Saying

Chinle, AZ

#27 Jan 31, 2011
fools knowledge wrote:
<quoted text>You piece of Liberal S/hit! If "Disruptive" sent out of class room? Three "Sessions" of Counseling?**** Slap the little s/hit and be done with it. Then send him/her/it to the Vice-Principle with a 'note' to paddle his butt "hard". If you can teach a dog to mind, you can teach a child. Send them home to their "parents"? Hell, in 90% of the cases it's the Parents that are the problem. An Apple doesnt fall far from the tree. Alternative school? I'll tell you an alternative school...the U.S. Military! School today is a joke. After the 6th grade it is a "day care center" for teenagers. You have Administrative people running the school who don't teach a thing but make 85% of the salary. Bad teachers are rewarded, good teachers are not....The whole system sucks. Kids will 'respect' discipline. That is why the 'military' works. Knock the crap out of them once, and you will not have to do it again. Or, after the "3rd" time, kick there butt out of school.
"Or, after the "3rd" time, kick there butt out of school." I said the same thing you did, without being vile,rude and violent. Teachers are not paid to discipline students. If they are disruptive, they don't belong in school. As far as the Alternative schools, I don't want my "mainstream" student negatively affected by disruptive dead-beats.

If you want to see a "piece of Liberal S/hit!", look in the mirror. I don't want my Marin Corp fouled by these misfits. That's how smart you are. The military does not want your kids either. Keep them home and keep beating them. Let me know in ten years how it all worked out for ya. You'll get a good lesson on apples and trees! Enjoy the fruits of you labor!

“GOOD MORNING!”

Since: Apr 09

Tohajiilee

#28 Feb 11, 2011
They should just do what texans do, give the parents a ticket and have them pay fines. That would be a real eye opener for the parents of children who know no values, especially when it comes to treating other people with respect.
Bob

Albuquerque, NM

#29 Mar 7, 2011
tex not Tex wrote:
<quoted text>For the record: I AM!
The head like should read "Teacher arrested for allegedly beating his Meat". Now that would be funny. I ask this question, what teacher has not wanted to snatch up some unruly student and just bitchslap the little SOB till he learned to behave. You can 'teach/train a dog' to behave, I can teach a child to behave...but not with the Teachers Union, Administrators, Lawyers and Parents coming down on the side of the little turd. That is why I gave up teaching 6 years ago.....You can't teach, you have to be a Raving "Liberal" to even get by anymore in Education. Screw that.
"I can teach a child to behave...but not with the Teachers Union"
Wrong!!! The school employees union in Cibola County (Grants) has pushed constantly for better discipline standards. As in most districts here it's administrative whim that determines student discipline. The administration tried to get the union to propose doing away with corporal punishment.(Which was allowed until about seven years ago and is still allowed under state law). When the union wanted no part of that red herring the administration quietly got the school board to do it anyway. You are correct in your assessment of raving liberalism hurting education but not all unions are way out on the left. In most districts it's the administration who are the left wing enablers. Only when collective bargaining and termination come into play are administrators conservative. They want to do away with due process and employee rights so they can more easily fire teachers who don't buy into their left wing nanny state philosophy. Saddly conservatives fall for this scam and support the administration.
In Cibola County New Mexico being anti-union means being pro-administration and it's the administration who want no discipline, no suspensions and no standards. I know it's hard for New Mexico conservatives to wrap their heads around this idea but anti-union translates into pro-administration here and the administration are the architects of the nanny state not the teachers. At the current time the administration in this district is scurrying to cover for two drunken teachers. If you are a good little suck-up they will cover for you. The union has not even been notified of the situation but word has gotten around anyway. A few years down the road we will get new administrators who will fire these two worthless losers (and cover up for someone else). When that happens guess who will be blamed for their years of drunken stupidity on the job... Why the union of course.
oldtimer

Albuquerque, NM

#30 Mar 8, 2011
Nowadays a parent can't discipline their child without risking an arrest. That's what coddling liberalism has done for our society, given criminals rights and turned kids into disrectful unruly brats.

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