Teacher arrested for allegedly beating his kids

Grants police say a high school teacher has been arrested after he allegedly beat two of his children with a stick inside a locker room at Grants High School. Read more
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Malvina Cara Clah

Fort Mcdowell, AZ

#1 Jan 28, 2011
That must be brought before a group for adequate discussion about it being related to human torture. If you got problems with that, apply yourself to sociology class at the closest education department. That level is the stigmata level. Forcing people into the realms of the unknown cannot add to the brilliance of our reality together. Be frightful for a while, then get your book out on Roman Law and try to solve your barbaric ways. This is 2011 and is a time for recovery and update your education on a different topic. College is where you got to go for the next level.
uhhhhh

Albuquerque, NM

#2 Jan 29, 2011
M-kay flake

Since: Dec 09

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#3 Jan 29, 2011
Oh, so now this is considered beating. There was a time when schools had fairly thick wood paddles with which to administer corporal punishment. Many teachers took great pride in doing so, and as long as the "swats" were placed in the correct area (buttocks), it was considered fine, and even admirable.

Some states and districts still allow this.

So, in some states, this is barbaric, but in others it's admirable? hmmmmm

For the record, I am not for corporal punishment in schools.
tex not Tex

Draper, UT

#4 Jan 29, 2011
MelanieThinker wrote:
Oh, so now this is considered beating. There was a time when schools had fairly thick wood paddles with which to administer corporal punishment. Many teachers took great pride in doing so, and as long as the "swats" were placed in the correct area (buttocks), it was considered fine, and even admirable.
Some states and districts still allow this.
So, in some states, this is barbaric, but in others it's admirable? hmmmmm
For the record, I am not for corporal punishment in schools.
For the record: I AM!

The head like should read "Teacher arrested for allegedly beating his Meat". Now that would be funny. I ask this question, what teacher has not wanted to snatch up some unruly student and just bitchslap the little SOB till he learned to behave. You can 'teach/train a dog' to behave, I can teach a child to behave...but not with the Teachers Union, Administrators, Lawyers and Parents coming down on the side of the little turd. That is why I gave up teaching 6 years ago.....You can't teach, you have to be a Raving "Liberal" to even get by anymore in Education. Screw that.

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#5 Jan 29, 2011
tex not Tex wrote:
<quoted text>For the record: I AM!
The head like should read "Teacher arrested for allegedly beating his Meat". Now that would be funny. I ask this question, what teacher has not wanted to snatch up some unruly student and just bitchslap the little SOB till he learned to behave. You can 'teach/train a dog' to behave, I can teach a child to behave...but not with the Teachers Union, Administrators, Lawyers and Parents coming down on the side of the little turd. That is why I gave up teaching 6 years ago.....You can't teach, you have to be a Raving "Liberal" to even get by anymore in Education. Screw that.
Well, to each his own, but I don't want some teacher who is trying to prove his macho-ism to take running aim at my kid's butt, using a thick wooden board (paddle) and then brag about it in the lounge.

So, corporal punishment is all about the teacher and his/her anger or short fuse? According to you, that's what it amounts to, so the frequency and/or severity of the "swats" are dependent upon a teacher who is mad?

Brilliant.

Nope....if my kid gets swats (my, how benign that sounds), I will be doing that. If the schools are having problems with a kid, "swats" (or beatings, depending upon where you live), really do not help much. The same kids return on a regular basis for corporal punishment. The schools need to send the kid home and let the parents deal with it, and if the parents had to do that, maybe THEY would be the ones beating/swatting their kids rather than some teacher. Of course, many kids misbehave in school BECAUSE they've been hit too much at home.

I think probably the reason you gave up teaching is because you were ineffective, a sorry teacher, and you should never have gone into that profession in the first place, but hey, it's an easy major to get through (part of the problem), so I'm sure that's all you were looking at. You sound fairly ignorant, to be honest, and someone who is as full of rage as you are has no business working with kids.
You are amazing

United States

#7 Jan 29, 2011
MelanieThinker wrote:
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Well, to each his own, but I don't want some teacher who is trying to prove his macho-ism to take running aim at my kid's butt, using a thick wooden board (paddle) and then brag about it in the lounge.
So, corporal punishment is all about the teacher and his/her anger or short fuse? According to you, that's what it amounts to, so the frequency and/or severity of the "swats" are dependent upon a teacher who is mad?
Brilliant.
Nope....if my kid gets swats (my, how benign that sounds), I will be doing that. If the schools are having problems with a kid, "swats" (or beatings, depending upon where you live), really do not help much. The same kids return on a regular basis for corporal punishment. The schools need to send the kid home and let the parents deal with it, and if the parents had to do that, maybe THEY would be the ones beating/swatting their kids rather than some teacher. Of course, many kids misbehave in school BECAUSE they've been hit too much at home.
I think probably the reason you gave up teaching is because you were ineffective, a sorry teacher, and you should never have gone into that profession in the first place, but hey, it's an easy major to get through (part of the problem), so I'm sure that's all you were looking at. You sound fairly ignorant, to be honest, and someone who is as full of rage as you are has no business working with kids.
Wow MT once again I find you totally amazing. With one little post you have figured this guy out. You know he became a teacher because it was an easy major, you know he was ineffective, he was sorry, never should have gone into that profession and he has no business working with kids and full of rage.

I'm not sure how many years you have spent teaching school (but I'm sure it's many between your stints in police work, flying the space shuttle, curing cancer and knowing everything about every subject there is) but unless you have spent years in a class room you don't know how it is. Very few kids are taught to respect anyone anymore, very few parents get involved and the list goes on and on and on. Teachers have to take this crap from people now a days becuase we are so afraid of what happens if we dare make a child take responsiblity for themselves or God forbid show and learn respect for anyone or anything. But of course, becuase you know everything, you will fire off a response to me telling me all about myself and the person I am.

But, I've come to know what type of person you are by reading some of your 2000 plus posts. You are a know it all that has an answer for EVERYTHING. There is not one thing you haven't done and you are an expert in everything. You have a poor attitude and probably have no life becuase you spend it replying to everything on here and telling everyone else how stupid they are. Thanks for your expert insight on EVERYTHING. Were would Farmington be without you???

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#8 Jan 29, 2011
You are amazing wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow MT once again I find you totally amazing. With one little post you have figured this guy out. You know he became a teacher because it was an easy major, you know he was ineffective, he was sorry, never should have gone into that profession and he has no business working with kids and full of rage.
I'm not sure how many years you have spent teaching school (but I'm sure it's many between your stints in police work, flying the space shuttle, curing cancer and knowing everything about every subject there is) but unless you have spent years in a class room you don't know how it is. Very few kids are taught to respect anyone anymore, very few parents get involved and the list goes on and on and on. Teachers have to take this crap from people now a days becuase we are so afraid of what happens if we dare make a child take responsiblity for themselves or God forbid show and learn respect for anyone or anything. But of course, becuase you know everything, you will fire off a response to me telling me all about myself and the person I am.
But, I've come to know what type of person you are by reading some of your 2000 plus posts. You are a know it all that has an answer for EVERYTHING. There is not one thing you haven't done and you are an expert in everything. You have a poor attitude and probably have no life becuase you spend it replying to everything on here and telling everyone else how stupid they are. Thanks for your expert insight on EVERYTHING. Were would Farmington be without you???
Yeah, I formed an opinion of this idiot by the words he used. It may be wrong, but it's my opinion. And YOU are one of the idiots who uses dozens of nicks to follow me, with your repetitive theme being anger that I "know everything." Even if I didn't KNOW which nicks you use, your constant gripe about me would tell me which belong to you.

Now, sorry you don't like my opinion, jerk-off, but you'll just have to live with it.....oh, and if you don't like it....if it bothers you......as I've advised you before..........DON'T READ MY POSTS.

Ignorant multi-nicked freak.
Distaff

Thoreau, NM

#9 Jan 29, 2011
You are amazing wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow MT once again I find you totally amazing. With one little post you have figured this guy out. You know he became a teacher because it was an easy major, you know he was ineffective, he was sorry, never should have gone into that profession and he has no business working with kids and full of rage.
I'm not sure how many years you have spent teaching school (but I'm sure it's many between your stints in police work, flying the space shuttle, curing cancer and knowing everything about every subject there is) but unless you have spent years in a class room you don't know how it is. Very few kids are taught to respect anyone anymore, very few parents get involved and the list goes on and on and on. Teachers have to take this crap from people now a days becuase we are so afraid of what happens if we dare make a child take responsiblity for themselves or God forbid show and learn respect for anyone or anything. But of course, becuase you know everything, you will fire off a response to me telling me all about myself and the person I am.
But, I've come to know what type of person you are by reading some of your 2000 plus posts. You are a know it all that has an answer for EVERYTHING. There is not one thing you haven't done and you are an expert in everything. You have a poor attitude and probably have no life becuase you spend it replying to everything on here and telling everyone else how stupid they are. Thanks for your expert insight on EVERYTHING. Were would Farmington be without you???
boy did you hit the nail on the head with your assessment of Melanie.
Distaff

Thoreau, NM

#10 Jan 29, 2011
MelanieThinker wrote:
<quoted text>
Yeah, I formed an opinion of this idiot by the words he used. It may be wrong, but it's my opinion. And YOU are one of the idiots who uses dozens of nicks to follow me, with your repetitive theme being anger that I "know everything." Even if I didn't KNOW which nicks you use, your constant gripe about me would tell me which belong to you.
Now, sorry you don't like my opinion, jerk-off, but you'll just have to live with it.....oh, and if you don't like it....if it bothers you......as I've advised you before..........DON'T READ MY POSTS.
Ignorant multi-nicked freak.
There's MT again, showing her/his true colors. I wonder if she/he realizes how much she/he reveals about her/his true nature through her/his posts.

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#11 Jan 29, 2011
Distaff wrote:
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There's MT again, showing her/his true colors. I wonder if she/he realizes how much she/he reveals about her/his true nature through her/his posts.
And here you are, once again revealing your true obsession and making a thread all about me. Ta Da!

You should really seek a bit of help to be able to move on.
smores

Albuquerque, NM

#12 Jan 29, 2011
tip- never strike your children in public. it'ss save the debate.
tex not Tex

Draper, UT

#13 Jan 30, 2011
You are amazing wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow MT once again I find you totally amazing. With one little post you have figured this guy out. You know he became a teacher because it was an easy major, you know he was ineffective, he was sorry, never should have gone into that profession and he has no business working with kids and full of rage.
I'm not sure how many years you have spent teaching school (but I'm sure it's many between your stints in police work, flying the space shuttle, curing cancer and knowing everything about every subject there is) but unless you have spent years in a class room you don't know how it is. Very few kids are taught to respect anyone anymore, very few parents get involved and the list goes on and on and on. Teachers have to take this crap from people now a days because we are so afraid of what happens if we dare make a child take responsibility for themselves or God forbid show and learn respect for anyone or anything. But of course, because you know everything, you will fire off a response to me telling me all about myself and the person I am.
But, I've come to know what type of person you are by reading some of your 2000 plus posts. You are a know it all that has an answer for EVERYTHING. There is not one thing you haven't done and you are an expert in everything. You have a poor attitude and probably have no life because you spend it replying to everything on here and telling everyone else how stupid they are. Thanks for your expert insight on EVERYTHING. Were would Farmington be without you???
God bless ya, you hit the nail on the head with MT. She? really is a sick puppy. These are the kind of people you read about or see on TV News. It would not surprise me to read where MT pulled a gun our of her/his/it's purse and shot 10 people at Safeway. Read some of "It's" post for God's sake, she is 'weird' to say the lease. Someone this dumb, AND this opinionated is scary as hell. She kind of reminds me of the crazy "Cat Lady" on the Simpson's.
Distaff

Tularosa, NM

#14 Jan 30, 2011
tex not Tex wrote:
<quoted text>God bless ya, you hit the nail on the head with MT. She? really is a sick puppy. These are the kind of people you read about or see on TV News. It would not surprise me to read where MT pulled a gun our of her/his/it's purse and shot 10 people at Safeway. Read some of "It's" post for God's sake, she is 'weird' to say the lease. Someone this dumb, AND this opinionated is scary as hell. She kind of reminds me of the crazy "Cat Lady" on the Simpson's.
If you've been reading the Daily Times for any length of time, you've run across MT's comments by the dozens.
Unfortunatly people like that are the last to recognize how far they are from the "norm"
Ray

United States

#15 Jan 30, 2011
I wish my grade school teachers would of been arrested for paddling(beating)us.
fan

Conifer, CO

#16 Jan 30, 2011
You are amazing wrote:
<quoted text>
Wow MT once again I find you totally amazing. With one little post you have figured this guy out. You know he became a teacher because it was an easy major, you know he was ineffective, he was sorry, never should have gone into that profession and he has no business working with kids and full of rage.
I'm not sure how many years you have spent teaching school (but I'm sure it's many between your stints in police work, flying the space shuttle, curing cancer and knowing everything about every subject there is) but unless you have spent years in a class room you don't know how it is. Very few kids are taught to respect anyone anymore, very few parents get involved and the list goes on and on and on. Teachers have to take this crap from people now a days becuase we are so afraid of what happens if we dare make a child take responsiblity for themselves or God forbid show and learn respect for anyone or anything. But of course, becuase you know everything, you will fire off a response to me telling me all about myself and the person I am.
But, I've come to know what type of person you are by reading some of your 2000 plus posts. You are a know it all that has an answer for EVERYTHING. There is not one thing you haven't done and you are an expert in everything. You have a poor attitude and probably have no life becuase you spend it replying to everything on here and telling everyone else how stupid they are. Thanks for your expert insight on EVERYTHING. Were would Farmington be without you???
Thank you - you are a hero to everyone (almost!) who reads these posts. As I was reading this, I knew immediately that you were in for some name calling from Melanie Non-thinker. Hang in there. You write well, and we appreciate your opinion.

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#17 Jan 30, 2011
fan wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you - you are a hero to everyone (almost!) who reads these posts. As I was reading this, I knew immediately that you were in for some name calling from Melanie Non-thinker. Hang in there. You write well, and we appreciate your opinion.
aaah....and yet ANOTHER case where you people who can't stand what I say, but read everything I post have made the thread all about me.

Bunch of effin geniuses. LOL!
Just Common Cents

Fort Defiance, AZ

#18 Jan 30, 2011
Melanie Thinker wrote:
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Well, to each his own, but I don't want some teacher who is trying to prove his macho-ism to take running aim at my kid's butt, using a thick wooden board (paddle) and then brag about it in the lounge.
So, corporal punishment is all about the teacher and his/her anger or short fuse? According to you, that's what it amounts to, so the frequency and/or severity of the "swats" are dependent upon a teacher who is mad?
Brilliant.
Nope....if my kid gets swats (my, how benign that sounds), I will be doing that. If the schools are having problems with a kid, "swats" (or beatings, depending upon where you live), really do not help much. The same kids return on a regular basis for corporal punishment. The schools need to send the kid home and let the parents deal with it, and if the parents had to do that, maybe THEY would be the ones beating/swatting their kids rather than some teacher. Of course, many kids misbehave in school BECAUSE they've been hit too much at home.
I think probably the reason you gave up teaching is because you were ineffective, a sorry teacher, and you should never have gone into that profession in the first place, but hey, it's an easy major to get through (part of the problem), so I'm sure that's all you were looking at. You sound fairly ignorant, to be honest, and someone who is as full of rage as you are has no business working with kids.
I see both sides of the issue. I think disruptive brats need to be paddled from behind to get headed in the right direction. These days, there are no consequences for the action of disrespectful and disruptive kids. Buttttt, on the other hand, SOME teachers abuse the right to paddle. My father was a school board member. The board reprimanded my 5th grade teacher for hanky-panky with the 3rd grade teacher. My teacher took it out on me with the board. I was afraid to tell my folks about it for fear that I would get the strap at home. He found any excuse to paddle the daylights out of me. The common paddling was 3 swats, I got 7 or eight. There were very hard swats. My bottom would be black and blue. If if ever say this creep today, I would beat him with a baseball bat, because he deserves it. His paddlings was abuse, pure and simple. All other paddling from other teachers, I deserved and now appreciate what they did to get my attention and correct heading. I guess there are two sides to every story. That's why I'm not commenting on the junk ordinance. I can see merits to both sides. Like most everything, common sense would solve the problem. I guess common sense is not so common these days.
tex not Tex

Draper, UT

#19 Jan 30, 2011
You're really "Eugene" aren't you?
Just Common Cents

Fort Defiance, AZ

#20 Jan 30, 2011
tex not Tex wrote:
You're really "Eugene" aren't you?
Ya, but just call me Ginne.

Since: Dec 09

Location hidden

#21 Jan 31, 2011
Just Common Cents wrote:
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I see both sides of the issue. I think disruptive brats need to be paddled from behind to get headed in the right direction. These days, there are no consequences for the action of disrespectful and disruptive kids. Buttttt, on the other hand, SOME teachers abuse the right to paddle. My father was a school board member. The board reprimanded my 5th grade teacher for hanky-panky with the 3rd grade teacher. My teacher took it out on me with the board. I was afraid to tell my folks about it for fear that I would get the strap at home. He found any excuse to paddle the daylights out of me. The common paddling was 3 swats, I got 7 or eight. There were very hard swats. My bottom would be black and blue. If if ever say this creep today, I would beat him with a baseball bat, because he deserves it. His paddlings was abuse, pure and simple. All other paddling from other teachers, I deserved and now appreciate what they did to get my attention and correct heading. I guess there are two sides to every story. That's why I'm not commenting on the junk ordinance. I can see merits to both sides. Like most everything, common sense would solve the problem. I guess common sense is not so common these days.
There may be two sides to every story, as you so well-stated, but my earlier reply to the enraged teacher falls into the category of the example you mentioned in your post--the use, severity and duration of corporal punishment being dependent upon the level of anger of the teacher.

THAT is ridiculous, and since teachers are often full of rage at their students....I mean, after all, if it were not for the kids, many might love their jobs (eye-roll).....they have no business "hitting" them. Who knows, they might be REALLY mad and REALLY go overboard.

Is that what a paddling is all about--the teacher's anger?

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