Inga Gutierrez denied release

Inga Gutierrez denied release

There are 46 comments on the Alamogordo Daily News story from Sep 23, 2010, titled Inga Gutierrez denied release. In it, Alamogordo Daily News reports that:

Inga Gutierrez is escorted out of District Judge Jerry Ritter's courtroom Wednesday following a hearing regarding her release to a third party.

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canyon resident

United States

#1 Sep 23, 2010
Thank God Judge Ritter rescinded his earlier order. I think if Gary Mitchell wants Inga released, he should have to look after her 24/7

“Pro-Constitution , Anti-Obama!”

Since: May 10

Capitan, NM

#2 Sep 23, 2010
Good! She needs to be kept under lock and key. We dont need phychos running amuck!
Margie

Las Vegas, NM

#3 Oct 6, 2010
This girl/woman needs prayer as do we. I don't say what she did is right either. But people need to have a prayer time for these individuals that make decisions and which could happen to any one of us at any given time. Lord have mercy on us all for us who judge and for those who choose to do the act. I pray for this woman Lord that you would break the chains that bind her and have her where she is at. Touch her life and save her from the world of darkness and all those awaiting judgement even us out here who think we can never do what we see others do.

“Pro-Constitution , Anti-Obama!”

Since: May 10

Capitan, NM

#4 Oct 6, 2010
Margie wrote:
This girl/woman needs prayer as do we. I don't say what she did is right either. But people need to have a prayer time for these individuals that make decisions and which could happen to any one of us at any given time. Lord have mercy on us all for us who judge and for those who choose to do the act. I pray for this woman Lord that you would break the chains that bind her and have her where she is at. Touch her life and save her from the world of darkness and all those awaiting judgement even us out here who think we can never do what we see others do.
Yes we should pray for her, but that downt change the fact she committed a crime and needs to be in prison not out on the streets!
Dee

United States

#5 Mar 31, 2011
she has been incarcerated 2 years now and still has not gone to trial. whomever it was that talked judge ridder into changing his mind is an idiot.she is a great woman and does not deserve what she is going through

“Pro-Constitution , Anti-Obama!”

Since: May 10

Capitan, NM

#6 Mar 31, 2011
Dee wrote:
she has been incarcerated 2 years now and still has not gone to trial. whomever it was that talked judge ridder into changing his mind is an idiot.she is a great woman and does not deserve what she is going through
Yet another crime lover. Quit supporting crime. She broke the law and is in jail. Thats right where she belongs!!!! BTW "great women" DO NOT break the law!!
Ya Ta Hey

Albuquerque, NM

#7 Apr 1, 2011
Chaos Undercover wrote:
Good! She needs to be kept under lock and key. We dont need phychos running amuck!
YOU are the only Psycho running around!(by the way get spell check)!
Just me

Washington, DC

#8 Apr 1, 2011
Ya Ta Hey wrote:
<quoted text> YOU are the only Psycho running around!(by the way get spell check)!
He's not running around, he's sitting at his computer! By the way, get grammar check. MORON!
Michael Morris

Carrizozo, NM

#9 Apr 3, 2011
Chaos Undercover wrote:
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Yes we should pray for her, but that downt change the fact she committed a crime and needs to be in prison not out on the streets!
Odd. Since no trial has been held the only fact that exists is that she is charged with accessory participation and has been held without trial for over 2 years. But we understand that you typically support indefinite detention without trial and the presumption of guilt.
La Verne

United States

#10 Apr 3, 2011
I have read the stories on Ms. Gutierrez and you are right, she is in jail on a presumption of guilt after admitting she engaged in a shoot-out with law enforcement, resulting in injury and death,$10's of thousands in damage, and even more to be spent in trying a person primarily responsible for causing the whole fiasco.

Boy is she getting a raw deal, huh?

Thus, I agree with you Mr. Morris. Enough delay. Ms Gutierrez should have been tried and convicted and either executed or given a life sentence and be in prison by now, prolly should have happened a year ago.

Your insights are spot-on, and the continued legal antics and delay tactics undertaken by Ms. Gutierrez attorneys, trying to make the facts obscure and irrelavent, and villify the police (sheriff deputys) and neighbors should not be allowed.

Bravo...Your take on the matter is perfect.
Michael Morris wrote:
<quoted text>
Odd. Since no trial has been held the only fact that exists is that she is charged with accessory participation and has been held without trial for over 2 years. But we understand that you typically support indefinite detention without trial and the presumption of guilt.
Michael Morris

Carrizozo, NM

#11 Apr 3, 2011
La Verne wrote:
I have read the stories on Ms. Gutierrez and you are right, she is in jail on a presumption of guilt after admitting she engaged in a shoot-out with law enforcement, resulting in injury and death,$10's of thousands in damage, and even more to be spent in trying a person primarily responsible for causing the whole fiasco.
Boy is she getting a raw deal, huh?
Thus, I agree with you Mr. Morris. Enough delay. Ms Gutierrez should have been tried and convicted and either executed or given a life sentence and be in prison by now, prolly should have happened a year ago.
Your insights are spot-on, and the continued legal antics and delay tactics undertaken by Ms. Gutierrez attorneys, trying to make the facts obscure and irrelavent, and villify the police (sheriff deputys) and neighbors should not be allowed.
Bravo...Your take on the matter is perfect.
<quoted text>
Perhaps you can explain how taking more than a year to get an indictment amounts to actions by the defense. Perhaps you can also tell us about the capital or first degree felony charges against the defendant. In fact the entire indictment is accessory and conspiracy counts with the exception of the property damage count. The case being tried does not seem to be the one you are describing.

Considering the ham sandwich indictment constructed solely on conspiracy and accesory with a dead man this case is certainly more challenging to prosecute than defend.
La Verne

Los Angeles, CA

#12 Apr 3, 2011
Hey, you should take over her lawyerin'!

Yes, what a difficult case to prosecute, she was seen by over 20 people with a gun in her hand shooting at law enforcement officers; had to be pulled from houwe with robot to avoid further deaths; like the self inflicted gunshot of her partner after trying to commit mass murder of police officers.

Yup...this is going to be a hard case to win.
You people up there in Otero County sure like to blame the police for your crimes. Amazing perspective.

I read another story where a man -meth dealing psychopath & ex-con member of the Aryan Brotherhood- murders a woman in cold blood, tries to kill a little girl, is stopped by police, one of whom is killed, and then engages in a gunfight with another police officer; in which the murderous meth head is mortally wounded, then a few minutes later killed by accidental discharge of a wounded deputy's gun...and the deputy is put in jail!!!

Worse...your loony local prosecutor got intimidated by the feds, and threatened your guy with murder charges so he took a deal!!

What kind of an asylum are you running out there?

Yup, you Oteroans sure now how to protect your own up there.
Here's an idea...why don't you invite the oh-so calm and innocent Inga to live in your house?

...talk the talk, brother, walk the walk I say.

How about it.?
Michael Morris wrote:
<quoted text>
Perhaps you can explain how taking more than a year to get an indictment amounts to actions by the defense. Perhaps you can also tell us about the capital or first degree felony charges against the defendant. In fact the entire indictment is accessory and conspiracy counts with the exception of the property damage count. The case being tried does not seem to be the one you are describing.
Considering the ham sandwich indictment constructed solely on conspiracy and accesory with a dead man this case is certainly more challenging to prosecute than defend.
Michael Morris

Carrizozo, NM

#13 Apr 3, 2011
La Verne wrote:
Hey, you should take over her lawyerin'!
Yes, what a difficult case to prosecute, she was seen by over 20 people with a gun in her hand shooting at law enforcement officers; had to be pulled from houwe with robot to avoid further deaths; like the self inflicted gunshot of her partner after trying to commit mass murder of police officers.
Yup...this is going to be a hard case to win.
You people up there in Otero County sure like to blame the police for your crimes. Amazing perspective.
I read another story where a man -meth dealing psychopath & ex-con member of the Aryan Brotherhood- murders a woman in cold blood, tries to kill a little girl, is stopped by police, one of whom is killed, and then engages in a gunfight with another police officer; in which the murderous meth head is mortally wounded, then a few minutes later killed by accidental discharge of a wounded deputy's gun...and the deputy is put in jail!!!
Worse...your loony local prosecutor got intimidated by the feds, and threatened your guy with murder charges so he took a deal!!
What kind of an asylum are you running out there?
Yup, you Oteroans sure now how to protect your own up there.
Here's an idea...why don't you invite the oh-so calm and innocent Inga to live in your house?
...talk the talk, brother, walk the walk I say.
How about it.?
<quoted text>
Which count is that? I was discussing the law and the actual events in the courts. You seem to be concerned with who should have civil rights and who should not. Sort of un-American philosophy you seem to be selling there. What sort of person suggests the diminution of basic Constitutional rights?

As you will notice I made no comment regarding guilt. I discussed basic due process. You indicate with your words a lack of devotion to Constitutional principals in favor of your ad hoc assessment. That makes you about as un-American as any Stalinist, Maoist or other Xist with no regard for the republic.
La Verne

Burgettstown, PA

#14 Apr 3, 2011
Give it up Morris. Your arguement is hollow and clownish.

I asked you a simple and direct question, now I will make it rhetorical:

Do you want persons in jail for violent crimes they obviously committed living at your house, or even next door?

The obvious answer is no.

Ergo, why should you be railing to release a known gun toting, violent person back into someone elses' home, or next door to an innocent neighbor?

All huff & puff if you ask me.
Michael Morris wrote:
<quoted text>
Which count is that? I was discussing the law and the actual events in the courts. You seem to be concerned with who should have civil rights and who should not. Sort of un-American philosophy you seem to be selling there. What sort of person suggests the diminution of basic Constitutional rights?
As you will notice I made no comment regarding guilt. I discussed basic due process. You indicate with your words a lack of devotion to Constitutional principals in favor of your ad hoc assessment. That makes you about as un-American as any Stalinist, Maoist or other Xist with no regard for the republic.
Michael Morris

Carrizozo, NM

#15 Apr 3, 2011
La Verne wrote:
Give it up Morris. Your arguement is hollow and clownish.
I asked you a simple and direct question, now I will make it rhetorical:
Do you want persons in jail for violent crimes they obviously committed living at your house, or even next door?
The obvious answer is no.
Ergo, why should you be railing to release a known gun toting, violent person back into someone elses' home, or next door to an innocent neighbor?
All huff & puff if you ask me.
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"In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence." - US Constitution Amendment 4.

I still don't understand why you are so un-American. The answer is right in front of you. You are simply not bound, nor do you appear to respect at all, the very basis of the Republic. That document essentially means that it really does not matter what the mob thinks. This is a right of citizenship.

You are too emotional to be rational and too unprincipled to comprehend right and wrong. That is the cause of your confusion.
La Verne

United States

#16 Apr 4, 2011
I love lefty's like yourself quoting the constitution when it suits them. Kind of like prisoners reading the bible and yakking scripture, or fat people giving diet tips on Oprah.

But, you still did not answer my question: Can Inga come and live at your house?

LV

PS. The constitution is in fact being followed, along with the rules of criminal procedure and all that goes with it regarding Ms. Gutierrez. Her lawyers are stalling as they know it is only a matter of days from jury selection to life time incarceration.
Michael Morris wrote:
<quoted text>
"In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence." - US Constitution Amendment 4.
I still don't understand why you are so un-American. The answer is right in front of you. You are simply not bound, nor do you appear to respect at all, the very basis of the Republic. That document essentially means that it really does not matter what the mob thinks. This is a right of citizenship.
You are too emotional to be rational and too unprincipled to comprehend right and wrong. That is the cause of your confusion.
Just me

Pensacola, FL

#17 Apr 4, 2011
Ms. Gutierrez is legally incompetent and therefore her case cannot be heard before a jury of her peers. Perhaps everyone should become more educated with the legal system and then there wouldn't be so much bickering. Mr. Mitchell is doing everything he can to protect his client's constitutional rights. That's his job. It's not about whether she is guity or not. It's about her constitutional rights. Once she is in a position of competent, her case will be heard. In the meanwhile, she is in a safer place and so if the community that fears her.
La Verne

Harrisonville, PA

#18 Apr 4, 2011
Total agreement.

Very wise post.
Just me wrote:
Ms. Gutierrez is legally incompetent and therefore her case cannot be heard before a jury of her peers. Perhaps everyone should become more educated with the legal system and then there wouldn't be so much bickering. Mr. Mitchell is doing everything he can to protect his client's constitutional rights. That's his job. It's not about whether she is guity or not. It's about her constitutional rights. Once she is in a position of competent, her case will be heard. In the meanwhile, she is in a safer place and so if the community that fears her.
Michael Morris

Carrizozo, NM

#19 Apr 4, 2011
Just me wrote:
Ms. Gutierrez is legally incompetent and therefore her case cannot be heard before a jury of her peers. Perhaps everyone should become more educated with the legal system and then there wouldn't be so much bickering. Mr. Mitchell is doing everything he can to protect his client's constitutional rights. That's his job. It's not about whether she is guity or not. It's about her constitutional rights. Once she is in a position of competent, her case will be heard. In the meanwhile, she is in a safer place and so if the community that fears her.
I think the fact that in January this was set for trial for the 18th of this month scheduled for 14 days tends to suggest that no such incompetency exists. Well there is the order.

9-3-2010 D-1215-CV-200900131
"STIPULATED ORDER OF COMPETENCY
REMAND TO MAGISTRATE COURT"

She was not transferred to the MH hospital in Las Vegas until 9 months after her arrest. So much for a speedy trial. Convenient when running up on a time limit? The competency hearing was continued a dozen times.

Sounds to me like you are just making it up.
Just Me

Mary Esther, FL

#20 Apr 4, 2011
Perhaps you should run for office and fix the situation Mr. Morris.
Michael Morris wrote:
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I think the fact that in January this was set for trial for the 18th of this month scheduled for 14 days tends to suggest that no such incompetency exists. Well there is the order.
9-3-2010 D-1215-CV-200900131
"STIPULATED ORDER OF COMPETENCY
REMAND TO MAGISTRATE COURT"
She was not transferred to the MH hospital in Las Vegas until 9 months after her arrest. So much for a speedy trial. Convenient when running up on a time limit? The competency hearing was continued a dozen times.
Sounds to me like you are just making it up.

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