Despite pay difference, nurses at DAC...

Despite pay difference, nurses at DACC choose to teach

There are 12 comments on the Las Cruces Sun-News story from Apr 25, 2010, titled Despite pay difference, nurses at DACC choose to teach. In it, Las Cruces Sun-News reports that:

There's more money to be made as a practicing nurse than as a nursing instructor, but with the average age of New Mexico nurses at 45 to 50, new nurses are in demand.

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Good job Sun News

Las Cruces, NM

#1 Apr 25, 2010
"Vice President of Academic Affairs Anna M. Chieffo, according to university records."

She retired last year and is still being paid?

And David R. Pearse resigned or was forced to resign last year.

Aw, nothing like the Sun-News to get the facts right.
interested party

El Paso, TX

#2 Apr 25, 2010
Thanks to all the dedicated educators, they do mold the future.
Whatever

Las Cruces, NM

#3 Apr 25, 2010
Now that you have discussed salary, how about you look in to instructor retention? Very few nursing instructors last for long at DACC. Not because of their lack of dedication or low pay, but because of the politics involved in working there. Many thanks to those who have stuck around, dug their heels in, and said "NO" to playing games and putting unsafe nurses on the streets.
Original ABC

Santa Fe, NM

#4 Apr 25, 2010
One important difference worth noting, in the event anyone is checking the salaries of nursing faculty from today's headline article, is that there are different education requirements for ADN instructors versus BSN instructors.

Instructors with the Associate's program at the Branch are only required to be BSN, RNs. Those with the BSN program are required to have a minimum of a MSN in order to teach, and salary seems to vary based upon actual WORK experience.

There are some who teach for honorable purposes, because they do want to shape the future of health care. There are others who do NOT want to work as a nurse post-graduation and just keep going to school with the goal of teaching. That's their right, but they are fundamentally ignorant when it comes to educating the next generation. Textbooks aren't all encompassing. They present an ideal. Good instructors have a wealth of experiences from which to draw and educate, further honing the all important critical thinking skills and teaching the importance of flexibility that all good nurses must posess.
Also interested

Las Cruces, NM

#5 Apr 25, 2010
Since NMSU and DACC employees are paid by our government, the regular salaries for the previous year are public record. If interested, ask for the budget records at any of the academic institution's reference desk. It is true that the State Board of Nursing requires a minimum of a Bachelor's degree to teach in an Associate program (like DACC) and a Master's degree to teach in a Bachelor's program (like NMSU).

What I find interesting is that the MSN prepared faculty at NMSU are generally paid less than the DACC faculty. Also, the MSN prepared faculty, who teach a majority of the Bachelor's program, are not eligible for any type of promotion or tenure. Yet, the NMSU BSN program had a Board pass rate over 90% last year (See the NM Board of Nursing website for pass rates of all NM nursing programs by the school.)
Whatever

Las Cruces, NM

#6 Apr 25, 2010
Check you facts again, folks. Instructors a DACC must have their MSN OR a BSN and be enrolled and actively seeking their MSN. And I know from experience that that particular policy is non-negotiable.
Original ABC

Santa Fe, NM

#7 Apr 25, 2010
Whatever wrote:
Check you facts again, folks. Instructors a DACC must have their MSN OR a BSN and be enrolled and actively seeking their MSN. And I know from experience that that particular policy is non-negotiable.
I can name one for you who is just a BSN (no insult intended) and barely got into a MSN program, but was teaching without it at DABCC. I was stating a fact.
Being a MSN does not guarantee competence. There are BSNs who have the years of experience necessary to properly educate the next generation of nurses and there are those who have their MSN and either worked minimally in an acute care setting or they just don't want to work a 12-hour shift. People teach for different reasons, but those teaching new nurses ought to be the best and the brightest. Sadly, that isn't always the case.
Politics at work

Las Cruces, NM

#8 Apr 26, 2010
I couldn't agree more with "whatever"! There have been many nursing instructors at DACC who were there because they enjoyed the job and wanted the best for the students. These were great gifted instructors. Individuals who could easily make more money elsewhere but chose to teach at the community college. They were ran off by the Margie Huerta politics not the salary. Last May five nursing instructors walked because of her. Maybe someday the university will wake up and realize what her true colors are. The community needs good nurses. What they dont need is a phony fake university president standing in the way of that.
Richard D

Las Cruces, NM

#9 Apr 26, 2010
For the nurses backbiting each other, give it a rest.

My current salary as a college instructor as what I made as a senior officer/major crimes detective in 1987! I'm not here to get rich, but to help train/educate new emergency personnel for the future. It is a choice and be sure you want to take the salary and the responsibility before leaping into it. Otherwise, do not complain.

Oh, I am cross trained as a fire origin & cause investigator so flame away, I can stand the heat!
Fed up

Huntsville, AL

#10 Apr 28, 2010
Maybe Margie Huerta should do some more running off because they instructors they have now in the Nursing program, not many of them are worth a da*m. If they choose to go in and teach and realize they are not there for the pay, then they need to realize they are there for the benefit of the students and not act like its some kind of joke.
GET IT RIGHT

Las Cruces, NM

#11 May 3, 2010
Good job Sun News wrote:
"Vice President of Academic Affairs Anna M. Chieffo, according to university records."
She retired last year and is still being paid?
And David R. Pearse resigned or was forced to resign last year.
Aw, nothing like the Sun-News to get the facts right.
If you read to the end of the article, it states July 2009.
GET IT RIGHT

Las Cruces, NM

#12 May 4, 2010
This article fails to distinguish between 9 and 12 month employees. For an instructor working 9 months at $45,000 (82 actual contract days for the spring 2010 semester x 2 for the 9 month contract ending May 11, 2010) the annual salary equivalent is $71,341. The honorable mentions are all 12 month employees.

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