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Jesus is real

Granite City, IL

#1 Jan 14, 2013
If you can give me FACTS not bull why he isn't real then go ahead and tell me but if your going to post crap then don't bother!(;
Rational

Granite City, IL

#2 Jan 14, 2013
If god can do anything, can he create a mountain so heavy that he himself cannot move it no matter how much he wants to? If a book proves the existence of a being, then I suppose spiderman and superman are real too. Same with goku. And according to 25 48 27 dueteronomy, one must cannibalize their own child if they do not worship or obey the sadistic god.

Moreover and to continue the fallacies, the Bible claims that he or she is "just and merciful." mercy is the absence of justice. You cannot be both at the same time.

And do you agree with "1 timothy 2-12? " "I will not permit a woman to teach or be over a man, she must be silent. " bet you have had a lot of female teachers in school.

And even further still. If Adam were made in gods image, and eve from his rib, that would mean that sex with another man means being closer to god. And since eve was made from him their -two sons- would have been the product of incest. Now think about this. They started the human race right? Then we are the offspring of two homosexual incestees.

Time for a history lesson. Herod tried to kill baby jesus in Bethlehem but Herod died in early 4bc. So he was not born in the a.d. Time frame. The comet allegedly seen by the wisemen during jesus's birth was the brightest in October of 4bc. Herod is already dead at this point.

Cencus of quirinus took place in 6ad. That was the only census in that time frame and was supposed to be the reason he was born in Bethlehem. Now, easter having been in April and jesus being at 32 & 1/2 years makes a birth in December impossible.

Sheppards were allegedly in the fields at this time, also impossible.

Need i go on? I'm not even christian and when I read the bible, a book of horrors and suppression of human rights and genocide, I will never become a Christian. And should the christian god be real, I cannot wait until I die for judgement day so I can judge him for all his terrible deeds before I turn my services to Satan.
Interestingly enough

Granite City, IL

#4 Jan 15, 2013
Very well put!!!
Rational wrote:
If god can do anything, can he create a mountain so heavy that he himself cannot move it no matter how much he wants to? If a book proves the existence of a being, then I suppose spiderman and superman are real too. Same with goku. And according to 25 48 27 dueteronomy, one must cannibalize their own child if they do not worship or obey the sadistic god.
Moreover and to continue the fallacies, the Bible claims that he or she is "just and merciful." mercy is the absence of justice. You cannot be both at the same time.
And do you agree with "1 timothy 2-12? " "I will not permit a woman to teach or be over a man, she must be silent. " bet you have had a lot of female teachers in school.
And even further still. If Adam were made in gods image, and eve from his rib, that would mean that sex with another man means being closer to god. And since eve was made from him their -two sons- would have been the product of incest. Now think about this. They started the human race right? Then we are the offspring of two homosexual incestees.
Time for a history lesson. Herod tried to kill baby jesus in Bethlehem but Herod died in early 4bc. So he was not born in the a.d. Time frame. The comet allegedly seen by the wisemen during jesus's birth was the brightest in October of 4bc. Herod is already dead at this point.
Cencus of quirinus took place in 6ad. That was the only census in that time frame and was supposed to be the reason he was born in Bethlehem. Now, easter having been in April and jesus being at 32 & 1/2 years makes a birth in December impossible.
Sheppards were allegedly in the fields at this time, also impossible.
Need i go on? I'm not even christian and when I read the bible, a book of horrors and suppression of human rights and genocide, I will never become a Christian. And should the christian god be real, I cannot wait until I die for judgement day so I can judge him for all his terrible deeds before I turn my services to Satan.
scholar

Granite City, IL

#6 Jan 15, 2013
prove to me god is real, that will be my proof to you that there is no such thing, you cant prove it.

your words saying he is real is no more valid than mine saying he isnt, either of us can prove anything, but fortunately you are able to believe whatever you like.
Jesus is real

Granite City, IL

#7 Jan 15, 2013
Rational wrote:
If god can do anything, can he create a mountain so heavy that he himself cannot move it no matter how much he wants to? If a book proves the existence of a being, then I suppose spiderman and superman are real too. Same with goku. And according to 25 48 27 dueteronomy, one must cannibalize their own child if they do not worship or obey the sadistic god.

Moreover and to continue the fallacies, the Bible claims that he or she is "just and merciful." mercy is the absence of justice. You cannot be both at the same time.

And do you agree with "1 timothy 2-12? " "I will not permit a woman to teach or be over a man, she must be silent. " bet you have had a lot of female teachers in school.

And even further still. If Adam were made in gods image, and eve from his rib, that would mean that sex with another man means being closer to god. And since eve was made from him their -two sons- would have been the product of incest. Now think about this. They started the human race right? Then we are the offspring of two homosexual incestees.

Time for a history lesson. Herod tried to kill baby jesus in Bethlehem but Herod died in early 4bc. So he was not born in the a.d. Time frame. The comet allegedly seen by the wisemen during jesus's birth was the brightest in October of 4bc. Herod is already dead at this point.

Cencus of quirinus took place in 6ad. That was the only census in that time frame and was supposed to be the reason he was born in Bethlehem. Now, easter having been in April and jesus being at 32 & 1/2 years makes a birth in December impossible.

Sheppards were allegedly in the fields at this time, also impossible.

Need i go on? I'm not even christian and when I read the bible, a book of horrors and suppression of human rights and genocide, I will never become a Christian. And should the christian god be real, I cannot wait until I die for judgement day so I can judge him for all his terrible deeds before I turn my services to Satan.
That was the Old Testament that was the people's doing. You don't have to do that anymore and if you knew anything about the bible you would know that

“AccountKiller”

Since: Jan 10

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#8 Jan 15, 2013
You do understand that when you are reading your Bible you are reading a book of fiction?

Books removed, words added, words removed.
Old and New Testament, etc, etc,etc.....

Don't get me wrong it is still a good read but still a fiction read.

the white power ranger

“Try my Troll House cookies!”

Since: May 10

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#9 Jan 15, 2013
i am a person of faith...

i also know that the faith that was taught to me has flaws...

what i am saying is that in one breath according to lessons, X is wrong but yet later X is considered acceptable...

i was taught that homosexuality is against Gods word though love is advocated...

now..for me...faith is keeping my soul as clean as possible and understanding that i am human and that i will screw up as well as everyone else as well...

like thomas edison..i believe that there is an energy that is based on intelligence and memory that make us who we are and that is what christians call a soul..

do i believe in a higher power? i do personally..maybe most dont..but that is a gamble they will have to take..

thanks mray for posting too...i always appreciate your intelligence on touchy subjects..=)
Jam

Granite City, IL

#10 Jan 15, 2013
MRay wrote:
You do understand that when you are reading your Bible you are reading a book of fiction?
Books removed, words added, words removed.
Old and New Testament, etc, etc,etc.....
Don't get me wrong it is still a good read but still a fiction read.
You can't dispute that Jesus did walk this earth.
Long dong daddy

United States

#11 Jan 15, 2013
It's true I am real and it's nice to meet you all.
Boobear666

United States

#12 Jan 15, 2013
Satan is so much better than God xD
Jam

Granite City, IL

#13 Jan 15, 2013
God is the Alpha and Omega..

“AccountKiller”

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#14 Jan 15, 2013
Jam wrote:
<quoted text>
You can't dispute that Jesus did walk this earth.
Never said that. Never said there was no God. Never said I didn't have faith.

I did say that the Bible is a book of fiction. It has been changed and rewritten by man therefore turning it into fiction. You can not take out books from the bible just because they are bad or disagree with them. You cant change the word because you don't like how the truth was told. All has been done through time.

Because of this you are told how, where and when to worship God. That is organized religion. Just like organized crime.

I will not have anyone tell me how I need to worship God. I will not be told where to worship or when.

If you have faith in your heart, home and family then you are on the right path and that is all you need.

“AccountKiller”

Since: Jan 10

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#15 Jan 15, 2013
the white power ranger wrote:
i am a person of faith...
i also know that the faith that was taught to me has flaws...
what i am saying is that in one breath according to lessons, X is wrong but yet later X is considered acceptable...
i was taught that homosexuality is against Gods word though love is advocated...
now..for me...faith is keeping my soul as clean as possible and understanding that i am human and that i will screw up as well as everyone else as well...
like thomas edison..i believe that there is an energy that is based on intelligence and memory that make us who we are and that is what christians call a soul..
do i believe in a higher power? i do personally..maybe most dont..but that is a gamble they will have to take..
thanks mray for posting too...i always appreciate your intelligence on touchy subjects..=)
Well said.

btw - welcome back.

“AccountKiller”

Since: Jan 10

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#16 Jan 15, 2013
one last thing.

by faith I mean that I have faith in my "Life" decisions.

Making the right choices for myself, right choices for my kids, right choices for my family.

Since: Apr 12

Location hidden

#17 Jan 15, 2013
Religion is a tool used to instill faith. It works for some and that is a good thing. To each his own.

I agree w/ MRay, the bible is fiction. It has been written over and over and has many interpretations.
donger

Edwardsville, IL

#18 Jan 15, 2013
Prove to me that unicorns don't exist. You can't prove something that doesn't exist you can only prove that it does. There is zero proof of your God. It is just a system designed to keep dumb sheep easily pacified for the slaughter.

Why is your God the one true God when there have literally been tens of thousands of these little made-up drama plays?

Osiris is fake, Allah is fake, Shiva is fake, Zeus is fake, Baal is fake, Zoroaster is fake, Yule is fake, Freya is fake, Thor is fake, Odin if fake, Ometeotel is fake, and this list could go on for days. You know what you have in common with the billions who have worshiped all these Gods? They believed just as strongly in their bullshite mythology as you do.

“AccountKiller”

Since: Jan 10

Location hidden

#19 Jan 15, 2013
donger wrote:
Prove to me that unicorns don't exist. You can't prove something that doesn't exist you can only prove that it does. There is zero proof of your God. It is just a system designed to keep dumb sheep easily pacified for the slaughter.
Why is your God the one true God when there have literally been tens of thousands of these little made-up drama plays?
Osiris is fake, Allah is fake, Shiva is fake, Zeus is fake, Baal is fake, Zoroaster is fake, Yule is fake, Freya is fake, Thor is fake, Odin if fake, Ometeotel is fake, and this list could go on for days. You know what you have in common with the billions who have worshiped all these Gods? They believed just as strongly in their bullshite mythology as you do.
OK now. You are going a little to far with Thor and Zues.:)

the white power ranger

“Try my Troll House cookies!”

Since: May 10

Location hidden

#20 Jan 15, 2013
thx for the welcome back mray..

and the poster forgot to mention chuck norris in his list...
your all wrong

Saint Louis, MO

#21 Jan 24, 2013
It is unreal to me how many lost people there are out there. My wife had a friend who died and they were able to bring her back. She said that when she died she want to Hell and got to see what its like. She said that it was very dark and extreamly hot. She said her legs felt so heavy that she could barely move them. She was walking in what was like multen liquid. Something in the dark would reach out and claw her cuasing great pain. After they brought her back she was so afraid that she turned her whole life around and started serving GOD. She gave up drinking, smoking everything and started building a relationship with the Lord. I would hate to die and end up here. So keep on being so smart that you wont recognize God and so dumb to want Satan. This is where you will probably end up. I am really sorry to say.
I had an uncle who lived his whole life as a drunk setting in bars and did not give God a second thought. I was at the hopital when he was dieing on his death bed. He laid and cryed out not to let them take him, he begged for help. Dont let them take me. It was a horrible death. This I saw for myself when I was a yung adult. This was before I got close to GOD. What do you think he was so afraid of? Demons comming to drag him away. He was so smart that he never gave GOD a second thought eather.
your all wrong

Saint Louis, MO

#22 Jan 24, 2013
One more thing to all you smart and dumb people out there. Let some bad illness happen to one of your kids. Something that doctors cant fix. Where you have no where else to turn. Then see how fast your on your nees asking that GOD that your to smart to believe in for help. Try asking Satan, thats like talking to a brick wall. He has no power to heal people and he would not do it if he did.

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