i only just finished a lection on the lev: 18.22. you can read it in my previous post. that being said:<quoted text>Ah, but you do attack even me, but the "facts" you delineate about Timothy are not true and they are absolutely predicated on supposition. If you didn't care for those verses, then how about Leviticus 18:22 or Romans 1:18-32.
Even if you feel these are not sufficient evidence of the Bible's position on homosexuality, let me simply ask you, "What would be definitive and on what legitimate texts would you justify your position. Could you stand before your creator and say, "Yep, I did it my way!" or would you say, "Yes, I obeyed my Creator." After all, it will ultimately be between you and your Creator, not between you or me or anyone else. Does your conscience tell you you are justified? If not, pick up a Bible and really spend some time with it if for no other purpose than to prove your point.
first things first: saul of tarsus was a fraud. the sooner you can understand that fact, the happier you will be.
all of saul's letters were written to his various catamites in the churches which he established and installed people in to oversee his financial empire. timothy was ensconced in the church at rome for a long time and the letters written to him there were discussing nothing more than the romans' reversion to the worship of their own gods and not the ones which he was attempting to sell to them.
as far as legitimate texts from the bible? well, homosexuality is mentioned only once in the bible and that was by jesus when he said that
being born gay from your mother's womb is called blessed by the holy father.
and lastly, there is not one indication anywhere, other than in saul's writings, that either i, or anyone else will ever 'face their creator'.
tell me, who do you follow, jesus or saul of tarsus? whose teachings carry more weight in your mind, those of jesus, or of saul?
i have read the bible through backward and forward and studied it for more than three decades now, both in and out of seminary and there is no condemnation of homosexuality to be found in it anywhere. you're basing everything on mistranslations and misinterpretations of it... and the lies which have been told to you by well meaning people who, in turn, have been lied to and have believed it.
jesus told us that if we wish to enter into fellowship with the father, then we must become as children. i'm afraid that too many people have interpreted that to mean 'childish'. what he was saying was that if we wish to learn through the holy spirit, then we must absolutely forget everything which we think that we know, and to unlearn everything that we have ever been taught and to begin anew with the spirit of god as our teacher... not the churches of man.
i do realise that this is a lot of information to absorb in such a short time, but i sincerely hope that you don't get bogged down in it. let me know if you need any more help understanding it, okay?