Herger seeks new study on postal deci...

Herger seeks new study on postal decision

There are 59 comments on the Chico Enterprise-Record story from May 4, 2010, titled Herger seeks new study on postal decision. In it, Chico Enterprise-Record reports that:

Two local congressmen want the U.S. Postal Service to do a new feasibility study on its plan to close the Marysville mail-processing facility, according to Fran Peace, district director for Rep.

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David Allen

United States

#1 May 4, 2010
I heard that the Chico downtown P.O will close too. Maybe Wayne can buy it.
Postal Worker

Chico, CA

#2 May 4, 2010
David Allen wrote:
I heard that the Chico downtown P.O will close too. Maybe Wayne can buy it.
That is a false rumor that one of the organizations downtown started. There are no plans, and never have been, to close the Mid-Town station.
They are actually talking about moving some contract routes over to Mid-Town from the Main office and reducing PO Box service, as over half of the boxes are not rented.
Postal Worker

Chico, CA

#3 May 4, 2010
I would also like to throw in that Mr. Herger has never been a friend to the USPS and their employees. This must have something to due with his rich constichuants.
I think Wallys true feelings are, that he would like to see the USPS go down, as would most of the US Government. It is costing the government too much money to run, and it is too big to sell.

Since: Apr 08

Chico

#4 May 4, 2010
Herger finds himself between a rock and a hard place. On the one hand he loves to slam the postal service as a prime example of government waste and inefficiency. On the other hand, he has many constituents that would be out of a job and hence he has to act. Will be interesting to see how the worthless POS will push this...

“Who is John Galt?”

Since: Dec 09

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#5 May 4, 2010
The postal service is a taxpayer supported monopoly which should be forced to compete as a commercial enterprise.
Postal Worker

Chico, CA

#6 May 4, 2010
dbski4it wrote:
The postal service is a taxpayer supported monopoly which should be forced to compete as a commercial enterprise.
WRONG!!!!!!
The USPS operates on it's own revenue. The Taxpayers DO NOT pay a dime towards it.
If that were true, the USPS would not be it the trouble it is in, it would be funded just like the wars.

Do your homework fool.
Fact

Chico, CA

#7 May 4, 2010
"The Postal Service receives no tax dollars. With 36,000 retail locations and the most frequently visited website in the federal government, the Postal Service relies on the sale of postage, products and services to pay for operating expenses"...from their website.
Fact

Chico, CA

#8 May 4, 2010
So if this is self-funded...why do we think we can tell them when to open or close a facility? Where does our government fit into the running of the USPS?

I'm confused.

“Who is John Galt?”

Since: Dec 09

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#9 May 4, 2010
Postal Worker wrote:
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WRONG!!!!!!
The USPS operates on it's own revenue. The Taxpayers DO NOT pay a dime towards it.
If that were true, the USPS would not be it the trouble it is in, it would be funded just like the wars.
Do your homework fool.
The postal service borrows money to run it's deficits. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/30/business/30...

Who do you think are funding those loans? Who do you think is going to bite the big one when those loans are never paid? Yes, it is the taxpayer. The postal service is in trouble because they have allowed the postal union to dictate how the USPS is to be run.

Hopefully soon Chico will have one less postal worker.
Fact

Chico, CA

#10 May 4, 2010
dbski4it wrote:
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The postal service borrows money to run it's deficits. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/30/business/30...
Who do you think are funding those loans? Who do you think is going to bite the big one when those loans are never paid? Yes, it is the taxpayer. The postal service is in trouble because they have allowed the postal union to dictate how the USPS is to be run.
Hopefully soon Chico will have one less postal worker.
So, I am still confused. If they claim to be self-funded and yet the government runs them...and apparently now saves them...are they a private business or a government run business? If the government controls them, shouldn't they be responsible for funding them? If the government doesn't fund them...is this just another one of those "too big to fail" businesses?
Fred C

United States

#12 May 4, 2010
First, let me say that I am not now and have never been employed by the Postal Service, but I had a close working relationship for years.

The postal service is a government operation that is supported by the income from products and services. The truth is that, in spite of the millions of pieces processed, the service is amazingly efficient.

To those who believe the service should be privatized, ask UPS or any of the other shipping services if they have any desire to process mail. Mail, not just packages. Think of all of the different types of mail you receive, for instance over the years I have received everything from a dried dinner role to a coconut with nothing but an address and postage. Do you think these private carriers would accept that?

It is typical that people like Herger will demand efficiency and cost saving until it means closing a facility, or eliminating a day of service. As usual, they want to have their cake and eat it too.

“Who is John Galt?”

Since: Dec 09

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#13 May 4, 2010
The USPS is supposedly a quasi-government entity (so is Amtrak). They are to operate on their own. The USPS must ask congress to approve increases in postage rates, changes in the way they operate,etc. Congress doesn't want to upset the postal union so they restrict changes to the way the USPS is operated. The USPS has many thousands of employees that are not needed but congress (Herger in this case) tries to restrict the closing on unnecessary facilities. The USPS runs huge deficits and covers them by borrowing from the US Treasury. This is done with a wink and a nod because everyone knows that this money will/can never be paid back. So, I guess it is strictly true that the USPS does not get "tax dollars" but they do get money from the federal government(who gets it from taxpayers) as a loan .
Rocky

Redding, CA

#14 May 4, 2010
I would like to thank all of you hard working Postal Workers for the great job you do !
Fred C

United States

#15 May 4, 2010
dbski4t, substantiate your claims.

“Who is John Galt?”

Since: Dec 09

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#16 May 4, 2010
Fred C wrote:
dbski4t, substantiate your claims.
Here is an article from a well known right wing newspaper http://www.nytimes.com/2009/07/30/business/30...
Jesse

Sloughhouse, CA

#17 May 4, 2010
It's a no brainer. Who needs six days of junk mail? Delivery needs to go to 2 or 3 days a week, and close all post offices in towns of less than 10,000. Maintaining the current level of delivery and service is basically welfare for entitled people who can't accept progress.
Fred C

United States

#18 May 4, 2010
dbski4it, are these excerpts from that article your substantiation?

“I realize that the postmaster general thinks that this will save money, but there are other ways that they can cost-cut,” Ms. Emerson (Republican Representative from Missouri) said of the potential consolidations and closures.“My constituents feel very strongly about having their postal service continue as it always has.”

I saw nothing that indicated thousands of unneeded workers.

"A hiring freeze has been in effect since the spring of 2008. In the last decade, the Postal Service has lost more than 160,000 jobs through attrition, Mr. Potter said. In March, the Postal Service announced it would offer early retirement to 150,000 workers, close six of 80 district offices and eliminate 1,400 management jobs."

“Who is John Galt?”

Since: Dec 09

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#19 May 4, 2010
Fred C wrote:
dbski4it, are these excerpts from that article your substantiation?
“I realize that the postmaster general thinks that this will save money, but there are other ways that they can cost-cut,” Ms. Emerson (Republican Representative from Missouri) said of the potential consolidations and closures.“My constituents feel very strongly about having their postal service continue as it always has.”
I saw nothing that indicated thousands of unneeded workers.
"A hiring freeze has been in effect since the spring of 2008. In the last decade, the Postal Service has lost more than 160,000 jobs through attrition, Mr. Potter said. In March, the Postal Service announced it would offer early retirement to 150,000 workers, close six of 80 district offices and eliminate 1,400 management jobs."
The effort to close Marysville mail-processing facility and other facilities across the country as well as going to 5 day a week delivery are all efforts to reduce the numbers of employees by thousands.

“Who is John Galt?”

Since: Dec 09

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#20 May 4, 2010
Fred C.

Here is another article from another right wing newspaper quoting the Postmaster about 3 weeks ago.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/...
Postal Worker

Chico, CA

#21 May 4, 2010
The USPS, regardless of what these articles say, does not borrow money from the treasury. dbski4it should read something else besides the right-winged newspapers. Employees have been cut to a drastic level, this is why there is now lines at all the post offices. In April there was some speculation that pay role would not be made, however, the pre-retirement benifit premiums were put on hold, so pay role could be met. Gee, though, sure be nice to just go borrow some money, then the USPS would not have to do anything. dbski4it, get a clue, I have worked for this organization for over 25 years, you know nothing of what you talk about.

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