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Oneal

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#96
Feb 8, 2014
 
pipedream wrote:
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GOPs Jobs Bills Lies Exposed
http://www.wrko.com/blog/kevin/gop%E2%80%99s-...
The GOPs ludicrous claim about their jobs bill
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-chec...
UPDATED: House Republicans Have Tried To Eliminate Up To 7.4 Million Jobs In 2011
http://politicalcorrection.org/factcheck/2011...
GOP's Claim That House Passed 30 Jobs Bills? Bogus.
http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/gops-claim-h...
Amazing, you found a bunch of liberal sites attacking the GOP. That's some awesome work you did there, Pipe.

I answered your ignorant question and made you look like a tool.

Now where are those transcripts?? Remember, answer or STFU .... the "world" is watching!! lol
Oneal

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Feb 8, 2014
 
Go Blue Forever wrote:
Great and honest post, Pipedream.......How informed is..."Regardless, It's not the number of bills passed by the House anyway".....Whaat???....W hat do they think the whole purpose of the House is???......
It's as informed as it needed to be. You beat the "GOP obstructionist" drum like angry monkeys, I just proved you wrong. Don't be snotty about it. It doesn't matter whether the GOP offered 30, 40 or 1 jobs bill, which was the point that obviously was too informed for you to get.
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Feb 8, 2014
 
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What's disturbing is most folks accept the U-3 number and never think to look or ask for the other numbers.
That is because it is just easier to accept what the government or the AP tells people instead of doing the homework and being a good citizen. It is becoming more and more apparent that there is a group of citizens who are just too afraid to hold this government accountable for their inaction and lies. Hopefully, at the ballot box, that number will be small.
Oneal

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#101
Feb 8, 2014
 
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As to Obama's transcripts. You're claiming they're false aren't you? Well, hey aren't sealed (as has been widely published by the fanatical right) so how about you get them and prove their false. I'll be waiting
You challenged me to provide the bills from the GOP and I did. I couldn't care less whether you agree with those bills or not. I wouldn't expect you to anyway. That was never my intent.

Now I'm challenging you to provide Obama's college transcripts. If as you say (hard to tell what you were trying to say from that mess you typed) they aren't sealed, get them and show the "world".
Oneal

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#102
Feb 8, 2014
 
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Wrong again Onutso. You proved yourself wrong which isn't difficult to do. You do that all the time.
You posted Cantor's page showing various GOP legislation he (and YOU) purports as bills that "Create" jobs several of which are being held up in the Senate by Reid. I posted several credible sources that say those GOP claims are Bull-Sh*t.
NOW ... Go piss up a rope like a good little boy -- AFTER you fix the roof on your trailer.
You posted a bunch of liberal opinion pieces that anyone could find online. That required no work or thought on your part, and was a pointless waste of time anyway, as I simply provided the list you were all in a huff about to deflate the stupid false narrative that the GOP never offers alternative ideas to that which they criticize this inept president over.

Now go find those transcripts ... hurry up I'm losing interest in your ankle-biting.

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#104
Feb 8, 2014
 
Just to bring some new information, Obama's approval rating is down to 39.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidentia...

Nixon bottomed out at 24.
At the same point in time, GWB was at 42 but went down to 29 and up to 44.

So, will Obama follow Bush and hover in the high 30's and then drop to the low 30's/high 20's in his last few month?

Will he follow Truman and crater at 22 but finish at 32?

Or will he do what no President has done after dropping into the 30's and finish above the 50 mark?

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#106
Feb 8, 2014
 
FLBeaver wrote:
Just to bring some new information, Obama's approval rating is down to 39.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidentia...
Nixon bottomed out at 24.
At the same point in time, GWB was at 42 but went down to 29 and up to 44.
So, will Obama follow Bush and hover in the high 30's and then drop to the low 30's/high 20's in his last few month?
Will he follow Truman and crater at 22 but finish at 32?
Or will he do what no President has done after dropping into the 30's and finish above the 50 mark?
How is the approval rating of the House of Representatives, do you know?
Oneal

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#108
Feb 8, 2014
 
pipedream wrote:
No I didn't produce a bunch of liberal opinion pieces stupid. I produced credible, accurate rebuttal to your bull-sh*t Cantor ads that the House proposed numerous Job Creation bills. I links I provided are ample proof that the so called Job Creation bills are in fact Bull-sh*T
Now stupid:
Do you have a problem with Obama's transcripts? You must since you brought it up demanding I produce them. And just what does Obama's transcripts have to do with anything? Is there another conspiracy in there somewhere Stupid? Since you have a problem with them, YOU produce them.
I also provided you with plenty of credible and accurate rebuttal to the numerous fake and phoney and otherwise BullSh*t claims about Obama's birth certificate, nationality, academic transcripts and numerous others.
No go piss up a rope Stupid - AFTER you fix your roof.
Keep posting insults if that's all you've got. I produced a list of jobs bills the GOP passed which effectively refuted the left's false narrative that the GOP only obstructs and never offers alternative ideas. Opinions of those ideas are irrelevant and argumentative.

You failed to even produce Obama's college transcripts. A president you elected twice, and you have no idea, aside from the word of a proven liar, of his education.

So, to answer your question of why I brought the transcripts up and how they are relevant to this topic:

if you progressives want to continue banging false narrative drums against others, we'll continue to prove them lies. We'll also continue smacking you around with narratives against Obama that you're seemingly incapable of proving untrue, yet continue denying.

In both cases you lost, not that you're smart enough to recognize it, or big enough to admit it. You can accuse me of being stupid if you want, and you might be right. It's obviously stupid to be wasting so much time arguing with a progressive rube who can't put two words together without a vulgarity-laced comment sounding like it's coming from a dirt-covered, uneducated backwoods Michigan dirtstick.

It's up to you whether you recognize which one of us is the "stupid" one. For everyone else they just have to look at which of us is able to back their narrative up with facts, and which continues to just post someone else's opinions and his own barnyard, gutter-level vulgarity tantrums.
Oneal

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#109
Feb 8, 2014
 
FLBeaver wrote:
Just to bring some new information, Obama's approval rating is down to 39.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidentia...
Nixon bottomed out at 24.
At the same point in time, GWB was at 42 but went down to 29 and up to 44.
So, will Obama follow Bush and hover in the high 30's and then drop to the low 30's/high 20's in his last few month?
Will he follow Truman and crater at 22 but finish at 32?
Or will he do what no President has done after dropping into the 30's and finish above the 50 mark?
I doubt he'll go much below where he's at. He has the support of the ill-educated racists who will back him based on his skin color. He's bleeding support by women and Latinos, considering they're smart enough to recognize he's done nothing for them despite all the promises.

Team Barry will do what they have to in trying to gin up their class envy and skin color-fixated base by raising more false narratives regarding rich people, white people, "war on women", and use the debt ceiling and immigration for political theater. The GOP will undoubtedly help them out at every turn by setting themselves up to be tee'd off on.

The difference between Bush and Barry is that there were plenty of conservatives who were against some of his policies and weren't afraid to voice it, while low-info Obama supporters will willingly stuff their heads in the dirt while he tramples the constitution, lies through his smarmy face and spends money like a criminal simply because either he's black, or he says he's going to give them something for doing nothing.

I suspect he'll uptick his approval toward the end because of the campaigning and the political theater that his base always gets suckered into. He'll finish close to 30.

The bigger question is will the GOP pull their heads out of their butts and figure out a way to make public their own ideas for jobs and healthcare, immigration and the economy? Are they even capable of agreeing on a plan?? Thus far I see little hope for them, but it's a long way to 2016.

In the meantime the left is in for another midterm smackdown, courtesy of Mr If You Like Your Insurance You Can Keep It.
Bob

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#110
Feb 8, 2014
 
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text> How is the approval rating of the House of Representatives, do you know?
My guess would be just slightly higher than the rating of those obstructionist's in the Senate.
The Senate has blocked almost every bill passed through the House.
Kind of hypocritical of them to call conservatives the party of "no" don't you think?

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#111
Feb 8, 2014
 
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>How is the approval rating of the House of Representatives, do you know?
It's low for both R's and D's. But that is different because Obama needs a high approval rating to have a voice in the process. At 39 his voice is meaningless. Just as previous Presidents have been.

Congress has a low approval but most districts will re-elect their incumbent (not all) but the House isn't really in play in 2014 but the Senate is, and not because the D's could gain even more seats. The issue is whether or not the D's will lose enough seats to give control to the R's.

No one is expecting the D's to improve their position in the mid-terms. The question is whether the D's will be wounded or significantly wounded.
Oneal

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#113
Feb 8, 2014
 
pipedream wrote:
You made the claim the GOP sent 30 jobs bills to the Senate where they died because of REID. You thought in doing so you could get one over on everybody with a BIG LIE. I told you to cite the 30 bills. When you did, I showed you that the GOPher jobs bills were Bull-shit Stupid. They aren't jobs bills by any stretch and experts alot smarter that you demonstrated just that - which was made quite clear in the numerous links I provided as rebuttal. Stop your foolish back-tracking and lying. Get it through your bean bagger skull that the GOPher job bills are pure bull-shit.
End of story.
And just STFU about Obama's transcripts. There's no conspiracy there either . Get it!? N O C O N S P I R A C Y. You want to talk more sh*t lets talk about Bush's transcripts and his and Cheney's war crimes.
Now go piss up another rope - AFTER you fix your Trailer's roof.
LOL ...
No amount of your tantrums can refute the fact the GOP has offered alternative bills. Your opinions and those of the "experts" on those bills make about as much difference as the hilarious ALL CAPS assertions that there's no conspiracy to Obama's transcripts - transcripts which you and your "experts" still can't produce, which in itself assures that the transcript conspiracy is legit.

There is virtually nothing you can do here, Pip. I shoved those bills right in your cruddy face. All you did by offering your opinion on them was admitted they exist. You have about as much chance of shutting me up as you do producing Barry's hidden transcripts. You'd be better off shutting yourself up. Instead you'll keep regurgitating the same inane opinions and further proving the progressive narrative of "obstructionism" false, while giving credence to the true obstructionists by failing to produce Obama's transcripts that were denied to the American people, by the President of No, and his league of slimy wealthy lawyers.

By continuing on your silly rant you're only strengthening my case and making yourself look like a mental institution candidate. I'm pretty sure that's not the first time it's suggested you see a psychologist.

Now I'm done smacking you around on this subject that you put yourself into uninvited. I'll leave it up to anyone who gives a #%^ as to which of us is right and which of us is insane.

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#114
Feb 8, 2014
 
pipedream wrote:
You made the claim the GOP sent 30 jobs bills to the Senate where they died because of REID. You thought in doing so you could get one over on everybody with a BIG LIE. I told you to cite the 30 bills. When you did, I showed you that the GOPher jobs bills were Bull-shit Stupid. They aren't jobs bills by any stretch and experts alot smarter that you demonstrated just that - which was made quite clear in the numerous links I provided as rebuttal. Stop your foolish back-tracking and lying. Get it through your bean bagger skull that the GOPher job bills are pure bull-shit.

End of story.

And just STFU about Obama's transcripts. There's no conspiracy there either . Get it!? N O C O N S P I R A C Y. You want to talk more sh*t lets talk about Bush's transcripts and his and Cheney's war crimes.

Now go piss up another rope - AFTER you fix your Trailer's roof.
I don't know if Keystone was brought up but that's a simple one that would create jobs.

"AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka told The Washington Post last week, "We think that anything that's going to create jobs, help the country and do it in an environmentally sound way ought to be done. Approval of the full pipeline could “support 42,000 jobs” and “put $2 billion in workers’ pockets during its construction.”

The issue is how each side views what it takes to creat jobs.

The Keynesian economists who dominate Mr. Obama's Washington are preoccupied by demand, and their explanation for persistently high post-recession unemployment is weak demand for goods and thus demand for labor. Mr. Mulligan, by contrast, studies the supply of labor and attributes the state of the economy in large part to the expansion of the entitlement and welfare state, such as the surge in food stamps, unemployment benefits, Medicaid and other safety-net programs. As these benefits were enriched and extended to more people by the stimulus, he argues in his 2012 book "The Redistribution Recession," they were responsible for about half the drop in work hours since 2007, and possibly more.

Essentially the difference is that Obama and his supporters believe in the Grandma model. If Grandma gives my kids money they will spend it which is good for the economy. Conservatives have a problem with that because it relies on Grandma always giving money and does nothing to help Dad support the family.

Liberals want the government to be the nations Grandma. Conservatives want Dad to go to work.

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#117
Feb 8, 2014
 
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The jury's still out on how many jobs Keystone will create and even the quality of any jobs. I might be in favor of it if it would indeed lead to lower prices at the pump. But so far I'm not convinced it will. In fact there's a lot out there that shows user prices will go up not down. Nor am I convinced the pipeline and tar sands exploration is environmentally sound. I'm not in favor of a pipeline/tar sands exploration at any cost. I think until a strong case can be made on jobs, oil prices and protection of the environment Keystone is going to be a hard sell as it should be. I'm tired of being screwed over and lied to by the oil industry.
Unfortunately the choice is being lied to by the oil industry or the government (EPA). If Big Oil lies there are legal alternatives. If the EPA lies life just sucks.

I don't trust either completely, but I have decades of experience that lead me to distrusting the EPA much more than the oil companies.
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#119
Feb 8, 2014
 
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The Prez can't do much with a dysfunctional Congress. In other words quit blaming the Prez.
Its funny how baggers always point the finger at Obama but are too stupid to realize its the baggers themselves who are the reason for the dysfunction.
November 12, 2013
Congressional Approval Sinks to Record Low
Current approval at 9%; 2013 average now 14%
http://www.gallup.com/poll/165809/congression...
December 10, 2013
Congress Job Approval Drops to All-Time Low for 2013
Approval is 12% in December, up slightly from 9% in November
http://www.gallup.com/poll/166196/congress-jo...
And of course we all KNOW that there are only Republicans in Congress, right?? What a piece of stupidity you are!

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#120
Feb 8, 2014
 
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<quoted text>Haha bagger brains. You trust the Big Oil?! Man have you ever been taken/ will be taken for a ride.
I said I don't trust either but I trust the EPA a lot less than any business.

As Reagan said "The nine most terrifying words in the English language are:'I'm from the government and I'm here to help.'"
Your Momma

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#122
Feb 8, 2014
 
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Alrighty stupid, you seem to be stuck on transcripts how about producing your high school transcripts for me.
I teidn lytmn rauhan ja rest.
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Alrighty stupid, you seem to be stuck on transcripts how about producing your high school transcripts for me.
Give it a rest already he beat the crap out of you. Get over it.
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#124
Feb 10, 2014
 
Go Blue Forever wrote:
Great and honest post, Pipedream.......How informed is..."Regardless, It's not the number of bills passed by the House anyway".....Whaat???....W hat do they think the whole purpose of the House is???......
I hate to say this, but that dingbat Oneal actually posted a very reliable and accurate assessment of the Republican version of the state of the union......

The Speaker of the House has already explained that success is measured by how many laws and regulations are removed rather than created. This plays exactly into what big business has been saying all along, and the Republicans have been more than willing to take up their cause. The result is numerous jobs bills based solely on the fact that they reduce taxes, regulation, and accountability on big business.

We will not see an end to the high unemployment figures seen during President Obama's time in office until big business is free to generate the profits they want, by whatever means, regardless of what the Democrats want.

A sarcastic liberal could very well call this Trickle Down on Acid economics, but the fact remains that it will always be Obama's fault. The President can't enlarge government enough to hire all of the unemployed, and the Chamber of Commerce knows it. It's members will continue to sit on ever larger reserves of cash and refuse to fuel a recovery until it gets it's way. Forcing them to do so is tantamount to socialism.....

I think history will show that every country who has been taken over by the dreaded commie hoard, was only one step or two further down the capitalist path we're being told to follow.

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Bob, "capitalist path we are being told to follow"?.....What other path do you think a democracy should be following?.....There was a great article by Joe Scarborough in Parade magazine about, "My Fix for what Ail's the GOP"....about how the Glen Beck Conservatives are quite different than the William F. Buckley Conservatives.....Frankly, i think the whole System, needs a lite overhaul.....

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