ACA Sticker Shock? You're Just Stupid
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Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#42 Dec 28, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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This is one of the more comical posts I've read in a long time.
In the months leading up to the roll out of obamacare on Oct 1 dozens of people in the obama administration and IT people designing the website knew it was going to fail.
That being said, not one, bar none, not one dared to go to obama and tell him what was about to happen. Even if they did, he apparently refused to believe it and blindly rejected any suggestions to delay the Oct 1 deadline.
This type of leadership is not representative of good leadership.
Do you honestly believe obama would even think of entertaining suggestions of change from the republicans when he won't even listen to his own staff and party??
And FYI...the republicans have offered alternatives but have been shot down by the democrats and obama at every turn.
The only changes to this point have been changes that obama personally mandated which could bring to question the constitutionality of those changes because he's not taking them to congress to be voted on.
Drones such as you hung your hopes on the bagger choice of repeal......

If you can't figure out that your heroes would have been better off trying to tweak the law instead of wasting time trying to kill it, then you're more clueless than I thought.

The ACA has opened the door that will change how everyone gets health insurance. The sooner you face the truth, and the quicker your bagger heroes acknowledge that fact, then the faster the country can move on to other problems the Republicants have chosen to ignore.

“SPEBSQSA”

Since: Aug 08

Northern Virginia

#43 Dec 28, 2013
Bob wrote:
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Drones such as you hung your hopes on the bagger choice of repeal......
If you can't figure out that your heroes would have been better off trying to tweak the law instead of wasting time trying to kill it, then you're more clueless than I thought.
The ACA has opened the door that will change how everyone gets health insurance. The sooner you face the truth, and the quicker your bagger heroes acknowledge that fact, then the faster the country can move on to other problems the Republicants have chosen to ignore.
Once again you have missed the mark. Obama will not hear of any "tweaks" to his signature law. The only "tweaks" he will allow are the ones he has personally relegated.
Post one time obama objectively listened to any "tweaks" from the republicans.
It's his way or the highway and he's made that clear from the get-go. His staff dare not tell him of anyone who might have some "tweaks" as they did not dare tell him the website was going to crash on Oct 1.

Wake up Bob...unless you have become used to the failure-prone fear-based leadership style of obama.
Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#44 Dec 28, 2013
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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Once again you have missed the mark. Obama will not hear of any "tweaks" to his signature law. The only "tweaks" he will allow are the ones he has personally relegated.
Post one time obama objectively listened to any "tweaks" from the republicans.
It's his way or the highway and he's made that clear from the get-go. His staff dare not tell him of anyone who might have some "tweaks" as they did not dare tell him the website was going to crash on Oct 1.
Wake up Bob...unless you have become used to the failure-prone fear-based leadership style of obama.
I completely agree with this entire post. As I stated previously, the republicans offered alternative ideas before this law passed and Heir Reid wasted no time publicly stamping them all "DOA". The democrats purposely left little options for the republicans but to fight for repeal, as any idea they offered was arrogantly refuted.

Despite promises and assurances this law was passed in the best interest of Americans, the democrats' intentions seem to be only to play out this entire law as a political game, another effort to demonize the GOP. Had the left any true interest in the needs of the American people and not just playing political theater with republicans they would have been more willing to cross the aisle. Instead, they just pretended to while Heir Reid trashcanned every republican idea that crossed his desk.

Thanks to ill-conceived republican tactics like Dr Seuss filibusters the democrats gained plenty of political brownie points over this scam, but all at a serious cost for the American people, who now have to pay for this mess that the democrats alone are responsible.

At this point any attempt by the republicans to offer "fixes" to Obamacare will predictably be played out as a victory for the democrats, an admission that this is now an un-repealable law, despite the flaws and the amount of times that Obama has changed it after the fact.

Again, Obamacare was manufactured as a political weapon to be used against the republicans - and the democrats are either going to come away as winners, or get their hats handed to them. Either way, the American peoples' ability to purchase affordable health insurance was the last thing the progressives care about.
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#45 Dec 29, 2013
Oneal wrote:
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I completely agree with this entire post. As I stated previously, the republicans offered alternative ideas before this law passed and Heir Reid wasted no time publicly stamping them all "DOA". The democrats purposely left little options for the republicans but to fight for repeal, as any idea they offered was arrogantly refuted.
Despite promises and assurances this law was passed in the best interest of Americans, the democrats' intentions seem to be only to play out this entire law as a political game, another effort to demonize the GOP. Had the left any true interest in the needs of the American people and not just playing political theater with republicans they would have been more willing to cross the aisle. Instead, they just pretended to while Heir Reid trashcanned every republican idea that crossed his desk.
Thanks to ill-conceived republican tactics like Dr Seuss filibusters the democrats gained plenty of political brownie points over this scam, but all at a serious cost for the American people, who now have to pay for this mess that the democrats alone are responsible.
At this point any attempt by the republicans to offer "fixes" to Obamacare will predictably be played out as a victory for the democrats, an admission that this is now an un-repealable law, despite the flaws and the amount of times that Obama has changed it after the fact.
Again, Obamacare was manufactured as a political weapon to be used against the republicans - and the democrats are either going to come away as winners, or get their hats handed to them. Either way, the American peoples' ability to purchase affordable health insurance was the last thing the progressives care about.
Oh dear.........

How could I have forgotten that President Obama has the ultimate power of the new Godless, Commie, Muslim Loving, Socialist, Fascists, Nazi, government that will be in power for always and there will never be another president for all time!!!!!!!!

Unless of course there is a chance the a republican controlled congress and white house was possible at some point in the future. Hell, even a democratically control congress could put through a change to the ACA, if, and that is if you aren't a cowering teabagger, believe in the truth that laws can be changed from time to time.

But what would anybody who isn't part of the fatally scared republican party know about it......... Perhaps you and the Wiggly Bagger should just dig a bomb shelter together and stare at each other's brown eyes until you pass out.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#46 Dec 29, 2013
Oneal wrote:
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I completely agree with this entire post. As I stated previously, the republicans offered alternative ideas before this law passed and Heir Reid wasted no time publicly stamping them all "DOA". The democrats purposely left little options for the republicans but to fight for repeal, as any idea they offered was arrogantly refuted.
Despite promises and assurances this law was passed in the best interest of Americans, the democrats' intentions seem to be only to play out this entire law as a political game, another effort to demonize the GOP. Had the left any true interest in the needs of the American people and not just playing political theater with republicans they would have been more willing to cross the aisle. Instead, they just pretended to while Heir Reid trashcanned every republican idea that crossed his desk.
Thanks to ill-conceived republican tactics like Dr Seuss filibusters the democrats gained plenty of political brownie points over this scam, but all at a serious cost for the American people, who now have to pay for this mess that the democrats alone are responsible.
At this point any attempt by the republicans to offer "fixes" to Obamacare will predictably be played out as a victory for the democrats, an admission that this is now an un-repealable law, despite the flaws and the amount of times that Obama has changed it after the fact.
Again, Obamacare was manufactured as a political weapon to be used against the republicans - and the democrats are either going to come away as winners, or get their hats handed to them. Either way, the American peoples' ability to purchase affordable health insurance was the last thing the progressives care about.
Heritage Foundation a@@-HOLE. Word for word. Right out of their playbook. Look it up and get back to me.

You know what Onutso? Do yourself a favor and ask your dumb cousin Dr X to load with hollow point slugs and play Russian roulette with the back of your fat head.
Dr X

Wyoming, MI

#47 Dec 29, 2013
pipedream wrote:
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Heritage Foundation a@@-HOLE. Word for word. Right out of their playbook. Look it up and get back to me.
You know what Onutso? Do yourself a favor and ask your dumb cousin Dr X to load with hollow point slugs and play Russian roulette with the back of your fat head.
Your mother should be slapped for having you.
OhOhObama

Jenison, MI

#48 Dec 30, 2013
I think if they really wanted to help, the government should hand out a nice bed, down coats, good pair of shoes and bottles of vitamins and first aid kits..

Just that would shave a few trillion off of the medical problems.
OhOhObama

Jenison, MI

#49 Dec 30, 2013
pipedream wrote:
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Heritage Foundation a@@-HOLE. Word for word. Right out of their playbook. Look it up and get back to me.
You know what Onutso? Do yourself a favor and ask your dumb cousin Dr X to load with hollow point slugs and play Russian roulette with the back of your fat head.
Nope, Obamacare don't cover that, the death panels say so.
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#50 Dec 30, 2013
Dr X wrote:
<quoted text> Your mother should be slapped for having you.
Somehow we all knew that you were the kind of tough guy that would beat a woman......
Oneal

Three Rivers, MI

#51 Dec 30, 2013
pipedream wrote:
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Heritage Foundation a@@-HOLE. Word for word. Right out of their playbook. Look it up and get back to me.
You know what Onutso? Do yourself a favor and ask your dumb cousin Dr X to load with hollow point slugs and play Russian roulette with the back of your fat head.
If the Heritage Foundation's idea is anything like what the Regressives have concocted, and I doubt it is, than I'd disagree with that too, so what's your point? I'm not a member of the Heritage Foundation.

You see, this is the difference between open-minded conservatives, who aren't afraid to disagree with other conservatives on various solutions, and mindless drone-like moron progressive Useful Idiots like yourself, who submissively go along with whatever they are told despite fact and reality because they're too stupid and weak to think for themselves.

In the end, what you and Bob continue to try desperately to avoid discussing is the fact that Obamascam has turned out to be even worse than even conservatives had predicted, and this thread's link offers but one example. The difference is only one of you twats is man enough to admit it.

As for this strange obsession of yours with pretending to be tough, there are a lot of people who can kick butt online, pipsqueak.
Dr X

Wyoming, MI

#52 Dec 30, 2013
Bob wrote:
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Somehow we all knew that you were the kind of tough guy that would beat a woman......
I don't think so Ms. Bob. And tell you daughter "pipedream" that if she wants to include me in a post that she can do it directly to me.

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