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bunnee

Waldo, WI

#1 Apr 28, 2009
http://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/index....

Alcohol over-consumption is cause of death for Grand Valley nursing student Linzy Duvall
by The Grand Rapids Press
Tuesday April 28, 2009, 11:23 AM

Linzy DuvallALLENDALE TOWNSHIP -- Linzy Duvall, a 21-year-old Grand Valley State University student found dead in her off-campus apartment, died from complications due to over-consumption of alcohol, university officials reported today.

The Ottawa County medical examiner ruled the death an accident caused by "aspirated pneumonia due to over-consumption of alcohol."

Duvall, a nursing student from Pinckney, was discovered the afternoon of March 28 by roommates.

A report on Grand Valley's Web site today said the medical report shows "it appeared she vomited and breathed in the material, causing fluid to build in her lungs."

Police earlier reported that Duvall had dinner and drinks with friends the night before her death and detectives said it was possible she was ill from drinking.

“Lucky”

Since: Sep 08

Charm City

#2 Apr 28, 2009
This is really sad.
bunnee

Waldo, WI

#3 Apr 28, 2009
oma2 wrote:
This is really sad.
Just makes your heart sink, doesn't it? And it happens over and over, no matter how many times kids hear about this type of thing
Praying For Justice

AOL

#4 Apr 28, 2009
This is so sad:-( My prayers are with this family for their loss.

“Aut viam inveniam aut faciam ”

Since: Feb 08

Muskegon

#5 Apr 28, 2009
It is really sad.

She was young, beautiful and had her whole life ahead of her...

I guess that the kids these days, no matter the law or what we parents say, have to sometimes find out the hard way that they are not invincible.

My prayers are with her family. It is my hope that they make some sense of this tragedy...

God Lord...what are young people thinking these days?
Ryan

Rockwood, MI

#6 Apr 28, 2009
Unfortunately, this is just what I thought happened.

"Kids these days" please! Your generation was undoubtedly much much worse than young adults now days, so please do not judge us. Young adults today are a lot more responsible than 30 years ago.

Teen drunk driving fatalities are down 67% since 1982.

Illicit drug use is down almost 50% from where it was in 1979.

Smoking by young adults has been cut by a third.

http://www.alcoholstats.com/page.aspx...
Bri

Pontiac, MI

#7 Apr 28, 2009
Kids these days? Thanks to the last poster for pointing out that the previous generations were much worse.
You don't know a damn thing other than what you've read online or heard via T.V. or internet. So please for my sake and her family's sake, keep those thoughts to yourself. I loved her, I still love her, and to read a comment like that makes me sick.
Thank you to everyone else for their sympathy and condolences. It is much appreciated.
Brian
say what

Detroit, MI

#8 Apr 29, 2009
Ryan wrote:
"Kids these days" please! Your generation was undoubtedly much much worse than young adults now days, so please do not judge us. Young adults today are a lot more responsible than 30 years ago.
Ryan, while abuse of illegal drugs and alcohol are down among teens and young adults, there has been a dramatic increase in the abuse of prescription drugs such as pain killers and other prescripions; so much so, this current generation is being referred to as 'generation rx'. Today's kids are still getting high, they're just finding more creative ways to do it.
So sad that kids are still dying from alcohol abuse despite all the education going on.

“friends are forever”

Since: Dec 08

Sparta

#9 Apr 29, 2009
Bri wrote:
Kids these days? Thanks to the last poster for pointing out that the previous generations were much worse.
You don't know a damn thing other than what you've read online or heard via T.V. or internet. So please for my sake and her family's sake, keep those thoughts to yourself. I loved her, I still love her, and to read a comment like that makes me sick.
Thank you to everyone else for their sympathy and condolences. It is much appreciated.
Brian
My heart hurts for you. I know it's not easy at this time but it will get better. I'm praying that God will be with you & give you the comfort He gave me when I lost my sweet husband. I know I'll be with him some day. You will never forget her & she is there in your heart....it's going to be okay. We all lost a wonderful young woman that would have contributed much to this world, yet maybe she is contributing now by being who she was & the lives she's touched before & after!!! God bless you & give you peace.
bunnee

Waldo, WI

#10 Apr 29, 2009
Ryan wrote:
Unfortunately, this is just what I thought happened.
"Kids these days" please! Your generation was undoubtedly much much worse than young adults now days, so please do not judge us. Young adults today are a lot more responsible than 30 years ago.
Teen drunk driving fatalities are down 67% since 1982.
Illicit drug use is down almost 50% from where it was in 1979.
Smoking by young adults has been cut by a third.
http://www.alcoholstats.com/page.aspx...
And the "new generation" uses other things to get their high from that those in the 70's and 80's never would have thought of using, which makes your post pointless
Ryan

Rockwood, MI

#11 Apr 30, 2009
bunnee wrote:
<quoted text>
And the "new generation" uses other things to get their high from that those in the 70's and 80's never would have thought of using, which makes your post pointless
Even if you include that group, it's still down!

And at least it isn't cocaine or other hard drugs.
say what

West Bloomfield, MI

#12 Apr 30, 2009
Ryan wrote:
Even if you include that group, it's still down!
And at least it isn't cocaine or other hard drugs.
No, I'm afraid it isn't, Ryan. And abusing oxycodone or Vicodin is every bit as dangerous as what you refer to as 'hard drugs' although many, like yourself, seem to have the impression that because they are prescription drugs, they are safer than others. They aren't.
Bob Berbowski

Phoenix, AZ

#13 May 6, 2009
Let's do a comparison...

GVSU student gets shot in the chest by a police officer for 3 grams of ILLEGAL marijuana.

GVSU student overdoses on LEGAL alcohol and dies.

We either need to legalize marijuana or bring back prohibition of alcohol. Alcohol is far more dangerous than marijuana. You can die from consuming too much alcohol, it is impossible to overdose on marijuana.

Alcohol is glorifired through advertising & the media. This will not be the last death from alcohol overdose.

93% of people in re-hab facilities are in for alcohol, 7% for other drugs. If you drink alcohol, at any time, for any reson, you are taking a DRUG that is highly dangerous. be prepared for the consequences!
say what

West Bloomfield, MI

#14 May 6, 2009
Bob Berbowski wrote:
93% of people in re-hab facilities are in for alcohol, 7% for other drugs.
I'd be interested in seeing a link for those numbers. The most generous figures I could locate for alcohol rehab admissions was 40% and of those admissions, nearly half of those also reported concurrent abuse of another drug, leaving roughly 20% in rehab for alcohol alone; comparable to admissions for other substances.
The remaining admissions are: 18% for opiates, 16% for marijuana, 14% for cocaine and the remaining 9% for stimulants, primarily meth.
http://www.samhsa.gov/samhsa_news/VolumeXVI_2...
Wow

Spring Lake, MI

#15 May 6, 2009
Bob Berbowski wrote:
Let's do a comparison...
GVSU student gets shot in the chest by a police officer for 3 grams of ILLEGAL marijuana.
GVSU student overdoses on LEGAL alcohol and dies.
We either need to legalize marijuana or bring back prohibition of alcohol. Alcohol is far more dangerous than marijuana. You can die from consuming too much alcohol, it is impossible to overdose on marijuana.
Alcohol is glorifired through advertising & the media. This will not be the last death from alcohol overdose.
93% of people in re-hab facilities are in for alcohol, 7% for other drugs. If you drink alcohol, at any time, for any reson, you are taking a DRUG that is highly dangerous. be prepared for the consequences!
How did she overdose????????? She was passed out and drown in her own puke. How many people do you actually think die from passing out from drinking? I would bet that thousands around the country pass out every nite and maybe one dies from it each nite.
Her situation was kind of a freak accident!
say what

Farmington, MI

#16 May 7, 2009
Wow wrote:
<quoted text>
How did she overdose????????? She was passed out and drown in her own puke.
If someone drinks until they pass out, I'd call that an overdose. So would most other medical experts.

"Signs of a life threatening [alcohol] overdose:
Person is passed out or semi-conscious and cannot be awakened
Person vomits while sleeping or passed out and does not wake up"
http://ohiosadd.org/docs/alcohol_overdose.pdf

“friends are forever”

Since: Dec 08

Sparta

#17 May 7, 2009
say what wrote:
<quoted text>
If someone drinks until they pass out, I'd call that an overdose. So would most other medical experts.
"Signs of a life threatening [alcohol] overdose:
Person is passed out or semi-conscious and cannot be awakened
Person vomits while sleeping or passed out and does not wake up"
http://ohiosadd.org/docs/alcohol_overdose.pdf
First of all, she wasn't a drinker so her body would react a lot differently than one who was used to drinking. According to reports, she had been up prior to her friends leaving that morning & she decided to go back to bed. She could have been up during the night vomiting & somehow breathed some of it in (aspirated if you will). That probably started the pneumonia. When you aspirate anything into your lungs & don't get immediate care, death can be the result. But who would have guessed? She wasn't used to drinking.
Wow

Spring Lake, MI

#18 May 7, 2009
say what wrote:
<quoted text>
If someone drinks until they pass out, I'd call that an overdose. So would most other medical experts.
"Signs of a life threatening [alcohol] overdose:
Person is passed out or semi-conscious and cannot be awakened
Person vomits while sleeping or passed out and does not wake up"
http://ohiosadd.org/docs/alcohol_overdose.pdf
from your link:
Signs of a life threatening overdose:
Person is passed out or semi-conscious and cannot be awakened
Person vomits while sleeping or passed out and does not wake up
Rate of breathing seems slow or irregular
Person has cold, clammy, pale or bluish color skin

They all say if the person cannot be awakened. That I agree with. But several pass out and CAN be awakened. I should clerify that when I say passed out (like most) that means fall asleep, and you can be awakened.

From the story's it sounds like she WAS able to be awakened.

Since: Jun 07

Location hidden

#19 May 7, 2009
Bob Berbowski wrote:
Let's do a comparison...
GVSU student gets shot in the chest by a police officer for 3 grams of ILLEGAL marijuana.
GVSU student overdoses on LEGAL alcohol and dies.
We either need to legalize marijuana or bring back prohibition of alcohol. Alcohol is far more dangerous than marijuana. You can die from consuming too much alcohol, it is impossible to overdose on marijuana.
Alcohol is glorifired through advertising & the media. This will not be the last death from alcohol overdose.
93% of people in re-hab facilities are in for alcohol, 7% for other drugs. If you drink alcohol, at any time, for any reson, you are taking a DRUG that is highly dangerous. be prepared for the consequences!
Good point. If she had been smoking illegal weed instead of drinking legal booze she would still be alive.
It would be a damn shame if someone died because they had to choose booze to party with because something relatively harmless like weed is illegal.

“friends are forever”

Since: Dec 08

Sparta

#20 May 8, 2009
Arctic49519 wrote:
<quoted text>
Good point. If she had been smoking illegal weed instead of drinking legal booze she would still be alive.
It would be a damn shame if someone died because they had to choose booze to party with because something relatively harmless like weed is illegal.
The big problem I see is that those who smoke MJ regularly for "recreation" eventually seem to not get the high they are seeking & turn to the bigger stuff. That is what most of them that do claim why they did. I know what it's like to be on Chemo & be puking your guts out after taking every anti-nausea med they made. My Dr. recommended that I try MJ but I said NO. Any way they did come out with a new med so I was able to finish my 2 yr course without too much problem. But if it helps someone through their medical illness & it doesn't addict them, then I'm all for it. But for medicinal purposes only.

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