williewonka

Rockford, MI

#21 Dec 31, 2011
Ha ha, ho ho, I laughed at the funny comments. Mlive also has some good ones too, BUT according to Connie Venroy she did NOT contact the media, she just filed a police report. I couldn't help but wonder how one would feel if simply filing a police report now, will likely set one up for public ridicule.

Who doesn't know that the media often will embellish, twist, slant, invent, intrude, and invade just to print a story. Don't mean to be condescending, because I laughed too.. but I'm just saying.

Since: Jan 09

Hersey, Michigan

#22 Jan 1, 2012
Steelie wrote:
Good Day,
Well... right below the headline the article states that law enforcement is "skeptical" of the claim. Something seems a bit fishy...
With that said... I am pretty sure there are cougars in Michigan. They can roam pretty far. Take for example the cougar that was hit and killed by a car in Conneticut that was traced back to South Dakota after having passed through Michigan on its way East. I think the bigger question is whether or not there is a breeding population in the area. Mother Nature can be full of suprises.
Steelie
I also believe there are Cougars in Michigan. I was told by a reliable source that the DNR doesn't want to admit the existence of Cougars here because of the Federal financial can of worms it opens up due to the protected species act. Speaking of bears, my son had them coming to his bird feeder in his back yard in a Cadillac subdivision almost daily. DNR's response to complaints from the neighborhood...don't feed the birds.

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#23 Jan 2, 2012
abranger wrote:
<quoted text>
I also believe there are Cougars in Michigan. I was told by a reliable source that the DNR doesn't want to admit the existence of Cougars here because of the Federal financial can of worms it opens up due to the protected species act. Speaking of bears, my son had them coming to his bird feeder in his back yard in a Cadillac subdivision almost daily. DNR's response to complaints from the neighborhood...don't feed the birds.
Good Day,

Well said.

Steelie

“SPEBSQSA”

Since: Aug 08

Maryland

#24 Jan 2, 2012
abranger wrote:
<quoted text>
I also believe there are Cougars in Michigan. I was told by a reliable source that the DNR doesn't want to admit the existence of Cougars here because of the Federal financial can of worms it opens up due to the protected species act. Speaking of bears, my son had them coming to his bird feeder in his back yard in a Cadillac subdivision almost daily. DNR's response to complaints from the neighborhood...don't feed the birds.
Hey Abranger...I'm not familiar with the problem regarding the Protected Species Act.
Just wondering...if I may ask...
Go Blue

West Palm Beach, FL

#25 Jan 2, 2012
Down here, they had to spend millions, to build these underpass's, below a major highway, so the the few remaining Florida Panthers(not the NHL team) would'nt get hit by the traffic.....probably saved a few, but they still get hit.....

Since: Feb 08

Location hidden

#26 Jan 2, 2012
Go Blue wrote:
Down here, they had to spend millions, to build these underpass's, below a major highway, so the the few remaining Florida Panthers(not the NHL team) would'nt get hit by the traffic.....probably saved a few, but they still get hit.....
Good Day,

Cougars, turtles, frogs, toads...

Steelie
SeenItBefore

Three Rivers, MI

#27 Jan 3, 2012
Arctic49519 wrote:
Not sure why a legitimate news agency would even run this story unless they are going for the "fake police report" angle.
0/10 on the believability scale.
The odds of a cougar being anywhere near Allendale are remote and the chance of getting attacked by a cougar in Michigan are lower than the chances of winning the MegaMillions.
The chances of alcohol being involved are very high.
There are plenty of stories about people seeing cougars in Michigan, yet there really isn't much hard evidence outside of the one caught on a trail cam in the U.P. this year. No corpses, no cougar turd found, no conclusive pictures. Most of these reports are just people seeing housecats or bobcats and have active imaginations.
Sorry, but... someone I know personally that is an outdoorsman was tramping through the woods and came across, from a distance, the DNR releasing a pair of cougars up in Newago county about 10 years ago.
Go Blue

West Palm Beach, FL

#28 Jan 3, 2012
Steelie wrote:
<quoted text>
Good Day,
Cougars, turtles, frogs, toads...
Steelie
Wonder if they have ever considered, releasing wolves, back into northwoods of Michigan?.....i believe it has been done in some of the northwest.....
DNR

United States

#29 Jan 3, 2012
SeenItBefore wrote:
<quoted text>
Sorry, but... someone I know personally that is an outdoorsman was tramping through the woods and came across, from a distance, the DNR releasing a pair of cougars up in Newago county about 10 years ago.
Ten years ago huh and no one has seen them since? No trail cams or nothing? LOL.

“lover”

Since: Feb 09

Dorr MI

#30 Jan 3, 2012
DNR wrote:
<quoted text>Ten years ago huh and no one has seen them since? No trail cams or nothing? LOL.
Not that surprising, my brothers budy has property up by Wolf lake north of Baldwin and his older brother claims to have shot one about 8 years ago. Also my brother in law and myself seen one in the UP around the Gould City area 10 years ago while deer hunting.
DNR

United States

#31 Jan 3, 2012
Living Large2 wrote:
<quoted text>Not that surprising, my brothers budy has property up by Wolf lake north of Baldwin and his older brother claims to have shot one about 8 years ago. Also my brother in law and myself seen one in the UP around the Gould City area 10 years ago while deer hunting.
My brother's buddies older brother. That's usually how those stories start. Do you realize how many calls we field every year saying "I just saw a 500 lb Black Bear destroying my bird feeder". 500 Lbs? You weighed it? Uh Huh. Sure pal. Every Cougar sighting I have investigated in the last 25 years in the LP has been a Bobcat or even worse, a stray tom cat gone wild.

“lover”

Since: Feb 09

Dorr MI

#32 Jan 3, 2012
DNR wrote:
<quoted text>My brother's buddies older brother. That's usually how those stories start. Do you realize how many calls we field every year saying "I just saw a 500 lb Black Bear destroying my bird feeder". 500 Lbs? You weighed it? Uh Huh. Sure pal. Every Cougar sighting I have investigated in the last 25 years in the LP has been a Bobcat or even worse, a stray tom cat gone wild.
already said to much (3 S's)
SeenItBefore

Three Rivers, MI

#33 Jan 3, 2012
DNR wrote:
<quoted text>Ten years ago huh and no one has seen them since? No trail cams or nothing? LOL.
People have reported seeing them and you don't believe it.

So you tell me where these thousands of trail-cams are that surely they would be photoed from.
SeenItBefore

Three Rivers, MI

#34 Jan 3, 2012
DNR wrote:
<quoted text>My brother's buddies older brother. That's usually how those stories start. Do you realize how many calls we field every year saying "I just saw a 500 lb Black Bear destroying my bird feeder". 500 Lbs? You weighed it? Uh Huh. Sure pal. Every Cougar sighting I have investigated in the last 25 years in the LP has been a Bobcat or even worse, a stray tom cat gone wild.
So if "you" didn't see it it doesn't exist. If "you" didn't hear it there was no sound.

Seeing as you present yourself as the DNR; you wouldn't believe me to come out and investigate when I said I had evidence of a bear in my back yard. Yet a photo of one in the area showed up in the Grand Rapids Press a week later. That alone tells me you haven't investigated ANY cougar sitings. Probably at the bar saying you were investigating. Only one kind of "cougar" would be there. So those are probably the ones you have been "investigating".

Since: Dec 10

Location hidden

#35 Jan 4, 2012
SeenItBefore wrote:
<quoted text>
So if "you" didn't see it it doesn't exist. If "you" didn't hear it there was no sound.
Seeing as you present yourself as the DNR; you wouldn't believe me to come out and investigate when I said I had evidence of a bear in my back yard. Yet a photo of one in the area showed up in the Grand Rapids Press a week later. That alone tells me you haven't investigated ANY cougar sitings. Probably at the bar saying you were investigating. Only one kind of "cougar" would be there. So those are probably the ones you have been "investigating".
And they still didn't "see" a cougar. Must be they have zero clue what a cougar looks like?? LOL
DNR

United States

#36 Jan 4, 2012
SeenItBefore wrote:
<quoted text>
People have reported seeing them and you don't believe it.
So you tell me where these thousands of trail-cams are that surely they would be photoed from.
All we ask for is evidence. A sighting is not confirmed without some kind of other evidence as most people don't know what a Cougar looks like in the wild. Tracks, photo, even scat is considered evidence. To put it crudely it's like a bear. If you find bear sh!t in the woods that means there is a bear around.
SeenItBefore

Three Rivers, MI

#37 Jan 4, 2012
DNR wrote:
<quoted text>All we ask for is evidence. A sighting is not confirmed without some kind of other evidence as most people don't know what a Cougar looks like in the wild. Tracks, photo, even scat is considered evidence. To put it crudely it's like a bear. If you find bear sh!t in the woods that means there is a bear around.
Not according to the DNR. They wouldn't even come out an investigate the bear scat in my yard because "there are no bears in Lower West Michigan".

First hand experienced there. But then I suppose it didn't happen because you weren't involved.
SeenItBefore

Three Rivers, MI

#38 Jan 4, 2012
The Real Sandy wrote:
<quoted text>And they still didn't "see" a cougar. Must be they have zero clue what a cougar looks like?? LOL
I remember seeing the report on the news. They said they believed it was a cougar. Not categorically it was (a cougar).

Even if it wasn't doesn't mean they aren't here. It can simply be the population is so small they are not readily seen.
SeenItBefore

Three Rivers, MI

#39 Jan 4, 2012
snomad

Allendale, MI

#40 Jan 4, 2012
I guess Michigan cougars headbutt rather than claw and bite.

As the strains of weed get stonger, I suppose more and more people will be seeing cougars.

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