SeenItBefore

Jenison, MI

#525 Mar 14, 2013
Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:
<quoted text>There is something wrong with you.;...... Make some money so the O can take it to give to non producers...
Something wrong with me? Seriously? When the concern you have over defense spending is when you might be missing the opportunity for a better toaster or different kitchen appliance?
Mark Luxford

Grand Rapids, MI

#527 Mar 14, 2013
Really wrote:
<quoted text>Another Ostrich Syndrome sufferer I see.
All right then, what was the evidence that Obama planned to use drones to attack American citizens on American soil? If you fail to produce the evidence I can only conclude that your fears of that happening are based in paranoia and not reality.
Really

Grand Rapids, MI

#528 Mar 14, 2013
Mark Luxford wrote:
<quoted text>
All right then, what was the evidence that Obama planned to use drones to attack American citizens on American soil? If you fail to produce the evidence I can only conclude that your fears of that happening are based in paranoia and not reality.
The fact that Attorney General Holder told him in a memo that it is allowed. Where there is smoke there is fire.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#530 Mar 14, 2013
Really wrote:
<quoted text>The fact that Attorney General Holder told him in a memo that it is allowed. Where there is smoke there is fire.
Maybe you're still having a difficult time understanding. You refer to a memo from Holder stating its alright for Pres. Obama to order drone attacks on U.S. citizens. Produce a credible reference or citation to this memo.

If you can't do this, then you're blowing smoke and fear mongering. Did I make myself clear?

Since: Mar 09

Grandville, MI

#532 Mar 14, 2013
Mark Luxford wrote:
<quoted text>
All right then, what was the evidence that Obama planned to use drones to attack American citizens on American soil? If you fail to produce the evidence I can only conclude that your fears of that happening are based in paranoia and not reality.
Google it!
No one say's he plans to, but he's saying it would be legal.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/05/us-d...
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#533 Mar 14, 2013
Gville Jim wrote:
<quoted text>Google it!
No one say's he plans to, but he's saying it would be legal.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/05/us-d...
Hypothetically. Google it. When you master that, get back to me and explain the term, what it means and how it relates to this issue.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#534 Mar 14, 2013
Gville Jim wrote:
<quoted text>Google it!
No one say's he plans to, but he's saying it would be legal.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/05/us-d...
Wrong again JimBob. First there is all sorts of whackos and crackpots who say he, in fact, does plant to order drone attacks against Americans on U.S. soil. I would argue that you are one of those whackos or crackpots. Demonstrate you're not one of them.
SeenItBefore

Jenison, MI

#535 Mar 14, 2013
pipedream wrote:
<quoted text>
Hypothetically. Google it. When you master that, get back to me and explain the term, what it means and how it relates to this issue.
It only goes to prove they can't even comprehend the sources they do use. And then intentionally corrupt it.

The despicable part is Ryan asked the Justice Department IF they believed Obama had the authority and after being told "in an "extraordinary circumstance" but has "no intention of doing so,"...The Obama administration, Holder said, rejected the use of military force where "well-established law enforcement authorities in this country provide the best means for incapacitating a terrorist threat." But in theory, it'd be legal for the president to order such an attack under certain circumstances, Holder said.
And, "The question you have posed is therefore entirely hypothetical, unlikely to occur, and one we hope no president will ever have to confront."
So then Ryan goes out and says Obama would. These people will stop at NOTHING to defame their President.

These people are certifiably sick.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#536 Mar 14, 2013
Hypothetical scenario: The govt. learns by way of credible and reliable sources that an attack by natural born or naturalized U.S. citizen(s) on U.S. soil is imminent or is underway. The President orders the threat neutralized or destroyed with a weaponized drone or by other means military or civilian, as appropriate.

What's amazing to me is the crackpots out there who believe this scenario would be unconstitutional or unlawful if ordered by the president or other high level officials.

Since: Mar 09

Grandville, MI

#537 Mar 14, 2013
pipedream wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong again JimBob. First there is all sorts of whackos and crackpots who say he, in fact, does plant to order drone attacks against Americans on U.S. soil. I would argue that you are one of those whackos or crackpots. Demonstrate you're not one of them.
I said nothing about "planting" anything!
The current subject at hand, is not about gardening.
Try to keep up.
But, hey, thanks for your insight.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#538 Mar 14, 2013
Gville Jim wrote:
<quoted text>I said nothing about "planting" anything!
The current subject at hand, is not about gardening.
Try to keep up.
But, hey, thanks for your insight.
Is that all you got JimBob? Plant v plan? Did you have a hard day today at Dollarville? Subway not sounding good tonight either?

Since: Mar 09

Grandville, MI

#539 Mar 14, 2013
pipedream wrote:
<quoted text>
Is that all you got JimBob? Plant v plan? Did you have a hard day today at Dollarville? Subway not sounding good tonight either?
WOW,....that's what I enjoy about your in depth conversations!
:)
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#540 Mar 14, 2013
Your superficiality Mr Gville is astonishing, especially a man of your stature and high number of Topix posts.
vox veritatis

Grand Rapids, MI

#541 Mar 14, 2013
pipedream wrote:
What's amazing to me is the crackpots out there who believe this scenario would be unconstitutional or unlawful if ordered by the president or other high level officials.
What's amazing to me is crackpots like you who see no problem with this and think it would be lawful. Fortunately, you and others on Topix like you, represent a very small minority of Americans.
Your turn to provide credible citations that show it's lawful and constitutional for the POTUS or any 'high level official' to order the execution of a citizen without due process for any reason at all. McCarthy, anyone? You're good at demanding credible sources, cough some up yourself.
Oh...and as for your 'credible information', remember that we had 'credible information' that Iraq had WMD...credible enough that both sides of the aisle believed it. Just goes to show you, credible doesn't always equal infallible.
Really

Grand Rapids, MI

#542 Mar 14, 2013
SeenItBefore wrote:
<quoted text>
It only goes to prove they can't even comprehend the sources they do use. And then intentionally corrupt it.
The despicable part is Ryan asked the Justice Department IF they believed Obama had the authority and after being told "in an "extraordinary circumstance" but has "no intention of doing so,"...The Obama administration, Holder said, rejected the use of military force where "well-established law enforcement authorities in this country provide the best means for incapacitating a terrorist threat." But in theory, it'd be legal for the president to order such an attack under certain circumstances, Holder said.
And, "The question you have posed is therefore entirely hypothetical, unlikely to occur, and one we hope no president will ever have to confront."
So then Ryan goes out and says Obama would. These people will stop at NOTHING to defame their President.
These people are certifiably sick.
Actually, the sick ones are you and your new BFF pipedream. But then, people who suffer from Ostrich syndrome are generally sick. You answered the issue...Holder told Obama it is legal to do so, but he "hopes no president will ever have to confront." Since you and your new BFF can't comprehend, perhaps you should try and figure out which President you would rather have using the drone on you.
Really

Grand Rapids, MI

#543 Mar 14, 2013
pipedream wrote:
Your superficiality Mr Gville is astonishing, especially a man of your stature and high number of Topix posts.
You certainly are fixated on the number of posts. Why don't you grow a pair and register? Scared that your constant stalking and haranguing of people would warrant the same treatment? What a child you are.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#544 Mar 14, 2013
Really wrote:
<quoted text>You certainly are fixated on the number of posts. Why don't you grow a pair and register? Scared that your constant stalking and haranguing of people would warrant the same treatment? What a child you are.
Stalking? Why don't you just provide sources and citations to support you claims.

I'm sick of your bull shit. How does that sound?

Since: Mar 09

Grandville, MI

#545 Mar 14, 2013
pipedream wrote:
Your superficiality Mr Gville is astonishing, especially a man of your stature and high number of Topix posts.
LOL!
Youve made more posts in the last month.
Are you counting?
How many do you have under your registerd name?
Nice try though!
Epic Fail.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#546 Mar 14, 2013
Or you can just go somewhere else and post your ridiculous crap. Its really quite that simple.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#547 Mar 14, 2013
Really wrote:
<quoted text>Actually, the sick ones are you and your new BFF pipedream. But then, people who suffer from Ostrich syndrome are generally sick. You answered the issue...Holder told Obama it is legal to do so, but he "hopes no president will ever have to confront." Since you and your new BFF can't comprehend, perhaps you should try and figure out which President you would rather have using the drone on you.
Just read my rather straight forward Hypothetical scenario. Get a grasp of it. And then go look at yourself in the mirror, and ask if you could really be as stupid as you make yourself out to be.

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