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Since: Mar 09

Grandville, MI

#457 Mar 11, 2013
Phil wrote:
<quoted text>
He can't close the capital building. It is still open.
Most entrances have been closed.
Only the South East entrance is open.
No public tours.
Really

Grandville, MI

#463 Mar 12, 2013
Sassy wrote:
I bet pipe does too. Just Sandy's nature, she cannot help herself.
<quoted text>
Whatever Sassy.
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Plymouth, MI

#464 Mar 12, 2013
Progressives are always angry like the Obama's..... Productive people are unfair in their eyes.......
Really

Grandville, MI

#465 Mar 12, 2013
Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:
Progressives are always angry like the Obama's..... Productive people are unfair in their eyes.......
No, productive people are a threat. After all, if you are productive, there is no need to depend on Papa Government and you usually don't buy into the class warfare argument.
Oneal

Three Rivers, MI

#467 Mar 12, 2013
Phil wrote:
I found a way for us to keep the White House open for the kids to tour! Get the tax cheats to pay their taxes! I know just where to look!
White House aides owe $330,000 in taxes last year.
Federal employees owe $3.5 billion in taxes for 2011
On March 5, Texas Rep. Louis Gohmert filed an amendment to a House resolution that would prohibit federal funds from being spent on Obama's golf trips until public tours of the White House resumed.
Gohmert referenced press reports pegging the cost of a recent Florida golf outing Obama took with Tiger Woods at $1 million. He also cited press reports saying 341 federal workers could have been spared furloughs if Obama had stayed home.

Seems Obama values his own personal golf trips over the taxpayer's ability to visit the White House in which they pay for - to say nothing of middle class workers's jobs.
SeenItBefore

Jenison, MI

#468 Mar 12, 2013
Really wrote:
<quoted text>No, productive people are a threat. After all, if you are productive, there is no need to depend on Papa Government and you usually don't buy into the class warfare argument.
Define productive people. Do you mean those that are contributors to society? But I thought socialism is a bad thing.

so·cial·ism (sOH'shuh-lihz'uhm)

noun
A system or theory of social organization in which the producers possess both political power and production and distribution means.

So how would non-producers be a threat to those who "possess both political power and production and distribution means". The non-producers don't have any power to control what controls society...money and/or political power. Or better said, money and therefore political power.

Define how the non-producers are a threat.

Or am I just an arrogant elitist for voicing my opinion with defining perimeters, not expecting it to be sanctioned just because it's my opinion?
SeenItBefore

Jenison, MI

#471 Mar 12, 2013
Phil wrote:
<quoted text>
"his golf weekend at the yacht club with Tiger Woods cost taxpayers over a million dollars—enough money to save 341 federal workers from furlough," Sessions writes.
According to Koffler, "the total cost to taxpayers of Obama’s vacations to Hawaii since becoming president is likely in excess of $20 million, and possibly much, much more."
In a move that is rich in irony, President Obama agreed Tuesday night to sign an emergency deficit reduction bill that does almost nothing to rein in spending and then jetted out to Hawaii to resume his vacation at an extra cost of more than $3 million to taxpayers.
The price tag is in addition to more than $4 million that is already being spent on the Obamas’ Hawaii idyll, bringing the total cost of the excursion to well over $7 million. The added cost was incurred because by the time the Obamas return from Hawaii – whenever that is – the president will have used Air Force One to travel to Honolulu and back twice.
It is not hard to see why Barack Obama is rather camera shy over his latest golfing outing, this time with sports superstar Tiger Woods. The optics certainly don’t look good for a president who has in the past called on Americans to make sacrifices, while blatantly refusing to do so himself. It’s certainly not an image the president wants to project to the 12.3 million Americans who are out of work, or the millions more who are also seeking full-time employment. Nor does it suggest he is serious about reining in the $16.5 trillion of debt his government owes,$6 trillion of which was racked up in his first term of office. Flying Air Force One to Florida at a cost of about $180,000 per hour hardly sends the right message to US taxpayers, who have just seen their payroll taxes go up. This is the latest demonstration of an overwhelming culture of impunity in a celebrity-obsessed Obama White House, frequently coupled with a disturbing lack of transparency that would be roundly condemned by the likes of The New York Times, NBC, or CBS if a Republican were in office. It is also a presidency that is rife with hypocrisy, as Obama’s words in Virginia in April 2011 perfectly convey:
We are going to have to ask everybody to sacrifice. And if we’re asking community colleges to sacrifice, if we’re asking people who are going to see potentially fewer services in their neighborhoods to make a little sacrifice, then we can ask millionaires and billionaires to make a little sacrifice.
"Flying Air Force One to Florida at a cost of about $180,000 per hour hardly sends the right message to US taxpayers, who have just seen their payroll taxes go up."
So your alternative is what?

Should the Obama's remain locked up in the White House? Should he/they fly commercial air? Should they leave behind the Secret Service and all the rest the American people have defined to protect their president?

Maybe see it as this money was spent on his "vacations" none of the cuts that have been implemented should be in light of his "vacationing"?

And no I'm not apologizing for Obama. I am actually looking at what are the alternatives. I haven't seen the the cuts advocates sacrifice for what they believe is imperative. Has Boehner, Ryan, Cantor moved to have Congressional pay, benefits and perks slashed and or even frozen. I haven't seen them not go on "vacation" when the breaks came up in order to stay and do the People's business. Yes that even includes Democrats. But then they haven't been the one's saying cuts are the only resolution.

I should add that Congress can reduce their pay, benefits, expense allowances and perks by introducing legislation and passing it. And if the Democrats were to be the cause for it not passing it then it would be the Democrats that would be on the political hook.

And we won't even get into Bush and his expenditures after he committed us to two wars that needed to be paid for because Bush is in the past and not relevant...cough.
Oneal

Three Rivers, MI

#472 Mar 12, 2013
Phil wrote:
<quoted text>
"his golf weekend at the yacht club with Tiger Woods cost taxpayers over a million dollars—enough money to save 341 federal workers from furlough," Sessions writes.
According to Koffler, "the total cost to taxpayers of Obama’s vacations to Hawaii since becoming president is likely in excess of $20 million, and possibly much, much more."
In a move that is rich in irony, President Obama agreed Tuesday night to sign an emergency deficit reduction bill that does almost nothing to rein in spending and then jetted out to Hawaii to resume his vacation at an extra cost of more than $3 million to taxpayers.
The price tag is in addition to more than $4 million that is already being spent on the Obamas’ Hawaii idyll, bringing the total cost of the excursion to well over $7 million. The added cost was incurred because by the time the Obamas return from Hawaii – whenever that is – the president will have used Air Force One to travel to Honolulu and back twice.
It is not hard to see why Barack Obama is rather camera shy over his latest golfing outing, this time with sports superstar Tiger Woods. The optics certainly don’t look good for a president who has in the past called on Americans to make sacrifices, while blatantly refusing to do so himself. It’s certainly not an image the president wants to project to the 12.3 million Americans who are out of work, or the millions more who are also seeking full-time employment. Nor does it suggest he is serious about reining in the $16.5 trillion of debt his government owes,$6 trillion of which was racked up in his first term of office. Flying Air Force One to Florida at a cost of about $180,000 per hour hardly sends the right message to US taxpayers, who have just seen their payroll taxes go up. This is the latest demonstration of an overwhelming culture of impunity in a celebrity-obsessed Obama White House, frequently coupled with a disturbing lack of transparency that would be roundly condemned by the likes of The New York Times, NBC, or CBS if a Republican were in office. It is also a presidency that is rife with hypocrisy, as Obama’s words in Virginia in April 2011 perfectly convey:
We are going to have to ask everybody to sacrifice. And if we’re asking community colleges to sacrifice, if we’re asking people who are going to see potentially fewer services in their neighborhoods to make a little sacrifice, then we can ask millionaires and billionaires to make a little sacrifice.
"Flying Air Force One to Florida at a cost of about $180,000 per hour hardly sends the right message to US taxpayers, who have just seen their payroll taxes go up."
Uh, let's see:
That's just lies from "faux" news.
We all know it's the republicans' fault.
Bush was a terrible president.
You're all just racist.
Obama is just naive and lacks information. None of this is his fault.

There, I think I covered the cookie-cutter standard ironclad defense of any criticism leveled at Obama.
Oneal

Three Rivers, MI

#473 Mar 12, 2013
SeenItBefore wrote:
<quoted text>
So your alternative is what?

And we won't even get into Bush and his expenditures after he committed us to two wars that needed to be paid for because Bush is in the past and not relevant...cough.
Oh, we won't get into blaming Bush, but you blamed Bush anyway ... lol, nice!
Bush IS in the past. He hasn't been heard from in over 4 years, for God's sake, but don't let that fact get in the way of using him at every opportunity to excuse Obama from his failure to solve the problems he so arrogantly promised he had all the answers to waaaay back in '08.

We know, poor Obama was just naive and didn't have the knowledge. But you're not making any excuses for him ...

Obama's decision to close the White House tours was no more of a solution than his not taking vacations, and that's the point. If Obama wants to make silly season out of this Sequestration farce that he authored himself, then the people who continually make excuses for him better plan on accepting the criticism he damn well deserves.

There needs to be serious BI-PARTISAN discussions on solving the government spending and debt. It should have been done during the Bush administration but it wasn't. It should have been done the first day Obama took office, but it wasn't. It could have been done at any time in the last 4+ years, but it wasn't.

Obama failed for over four years to address the most serious issue this country faces in favor of social issues and his ongoing, never-ending campaign. He deserves the criticism he's getting over this. Deal with it.
Freedom

Grand Rapids, MI

#476 Mar 12, 2013
There needs to be serious BI-PARTISAN discussions on solving the government spending and debt. It should have been done during the Bush administration but it wasn't. It should have been done the first day Obama took office, but it wasn't. It could have been done at any time in the last 4+ years, but it wasn't.

Take the taxes break for the rich back!!!! Forget the, my way or the highway. The people will vote out Republicans that have allegiance to Norquist and not the AMERICAN PEOPLE.(ALL OF THEM)!!! We are watching and can see that it is just for the rich. Be prepared to be voted out!!!
Oneal

Three Rivers, MI

#477 Mar 12, 2013
Freedom wrote:
There needs to be serious BI-PARTISAN discussions on solving the government spending and debt. It should have been done during the Bush administration but it wasn't. It should have been done the first day Obama took office, but it wasn't. It could have been done at any time in the last 4+ years, but it wasn't.
Take the taxes break for the rich back!!!! Forget the, my way or the highway. The people will vote out Republicans that have allegiance to Norquist and not the AMERICAN PEOPLE.(ALL OF THEM)!!! We are watching and can see that it is just for the rich. Be prepared to be voted out!!!
Liberal nutball tantrum of the week.
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Plymouth, MI

#478 Mar 12, 2013
Da Dems.....XXYOUTUBE-hM1tx4uHGSU XX
Mark Luxford

Grand Rapids, MI

#481 Mar 12, 2013
Rob wrote:
<quoted text>
The Obama administration looks very stupid after being repeatedly asked the same thing and not giving a answer. They repeatedly could not answer the question with a yes or no answer until after the filibuster. Rand Paul thanked them for finally answering the question after receiving the letter.
Why should the Obama administration or any administration waste their time answering a baseless hypothetical question? There was never any evidence that the Obama administration was prepared to use drones to strike American citizens on our soil.
Really

Grandville, MI

#484 Mar 12, 2013
SeenItBefore wrote:
<quoted text>
Define productive people. Do you mean those that are contributors to society? But I thought socialism is a bad thing.
so·cial·ism (sOH'shuh-lihz'uhm)
noun
A system or theory of social organization in which the producers possess both political power and production and distribution means.
So how would non-producers be a threat to those who "possess both political power and production and distribution means". The non-producers don't have any power to control what controls society...money and/or political power. Or better said, money and therefore political power.
Define how the non-producers are a threat.
Or am I just an arrogant elitist for voicing my opinion with defining perimeters, not expecting it to be sanctioned just because it's my opinion?
I didn't say the non-producers are the threat. Nice try though. What I said is the producers are the threat because then they don't need Papa government to supply their needs. Not my problem that you can't comprehend what Obama views as a threat.
Really

Grandville, MI

#485 Mar 12, 2013
Mark Luxford wrote:
<quoted text>
Why should the Obama administration or any administration waste their time answering a baseless hypothetical question? There was never any evidence that the Obama administration was prepared to use drones to strike American citizens on our soil.
Another Ostrich Syndrome sufferer I see.
SeenItBefore

Jenison, MI

#486 Mar 12, 2013
Really wrote:
<quoted text>I didn't say the non-producers are the threat. Nice try though. What I said is the producers are the threat because then they don't need Papa government to supply their needs. Not my problem that you can't comprehend what Obama views as a threat.
I must have misread it as sarcasm when you said "No, productive people are a threat. After all, if you are productive, there is no need to depend on Papa Government..." as meaning productive people are a threat to the need "big (papa) government" for the benefit of the non-producers.

So I'll rephrase my question though the meaning of my previous statement is still relevant.
How are, what makes, the producers a threat because they don't need Papa Government? A threat to what?
Really

Grandville, MI

#490 Mar 13, 2013
SeenItBefore wrote:
<quoted text>
I must have misread it as sarcasm when you said "No, productive people are a threat. After all, if you are productive, there is no need to depend on Papa Government..." as meaning productive people are a threat to the need "big (papa) government" for the benefit of the non-producers.
So I'll rephrase my question though the meaning of my previous statement is still relevant.
How are, what makes, the producers a threat because they don't need Papa Government? A threat to what?
A threat to Obama's "grand" plan for this country. Why else would he be hell bent for leather to punish those who succeed while issuing handouts to those who don't succeed? Why else would the welfare rolls be up 47% in the last 4 years? And I am NOT talking about Medicare and Social Security.

Since: Oct 12

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#491 Mar 13, 2013
Mark Luxford wrote:
<quoted text>
Why should the Obama administration or any administration waste their time answering a baseless hypothetical question? There was never any evidence that the Obama administration was prepared to use drones to strike American citizens on our soil.
Much of the President's opposition has recently run out of issues worth building manufactured outrage for.....they actually wanted to ask....If given an Assault rifle, who would he take out first?...lol...you know, grease the wheels, so to speak....
SeenItBefore

Jenison, MI

#492 Mar 13, 2013
Really wrote:
<quoted text>A threat to Obama's "grand" plan for this country. Why else would he be hell bent for leather to punish those who succeed while issuing handouts to those who don't succeed? Why else would the welfare rolls be up 47% in the last 4 years? And I am NOT talking about Medicare and Social Security.
Oh, so I was right in what I took it to mean in the first place.

Yes, why should the welfare rolls be up by your number of 47%. Why must we keep rehashing that, even according to you, the private sector should be the ones hiring, yet they haven't been. Why must we keep rehashing that they haven't been hiring because of taxes when Bush cut them twice and still they didn't hire. Instead they moved operations out-of-country.

The corporate taxes are far lower than they were when this country was on a prosperous upswing and the taxes were 91% then down to 75% on profits over $3million, so the "reasons" of taxes is a non sequitur.

So I refer back to my rebuttal point of post #468.
SeenItBefore

Jenison, MI

#495 Mar 13, 2013
So lets look at the purity-phile.
" THE first hurdle facing the tidy-up team was to deal with W’s past drug use. As governor of Texas, he took a hard line on drugs. He supported increased penalties for possession and signed legislation mandating jail time for people caught with less than a single gram of cocaine.

Yet, as the claims of Sharon Bush, his sister-in-law, show, he could have been subject to jail time himself had he been caught “doing coke” with his brother Marvin at Camp David during his father’s presidency.

In the midst of an unfriendly divorce from Neil, another of the Bush brothers, Sharon told me last year:“He and Marvin did coke at Camp David when their father was president and not just once, either.”
http://www.cocaine.org/george-bush/index.html

"There are even claims that First Lady Laura Bush was a drug dealer in her youth. She is the darling of the US right, adored for her schoolmarm demeanour and whiter-than-white aura, and one of the biggest assets in Bush's attempt to appeal to middle America. But Kelly says she was the "go-to-girl for dime bags" of grass at the Southern Methodist University. Kelly quotes a PR executive, Robert Nash, who says: "She not only smoked dope but she sold dope."
http://rense.com/general57/know.htm

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