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#41 Dec 12, 2011
Sneaky Pete wrote:
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Still continuing your fight for incest, eh?
While I don't applaud your cause, I'll certainly applaud your effort.
Incest is something that religion teaches. I'm not a christian so I would never support something like that.

In the buy-bull, the "righteous" Lot knocked up both of his daughters:

Come, let us make him drunk with wine, and let us lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night: and the elder went in and lay with her father: but he perceived not neither when his daughter lay down, nor when she rose up. And the next day the elder said to the younger: Behold I lay last night with my father, let us make him drink wine also to night, and thou shalt lie with him, that we may save seed of our father. They made their father drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in, and lay with him: and neither then did he perceive when she lay down, nor when she rose up. So the two daughters of Lot were with child by their father.[Genesis 19:31-36]

Amram married and knocked up his own aunt. That means Moses was an incest baby.

And Amram took to wife Jochabed his aunt by the fatherís side: and she bore him Aaron and Moses. And the years of Amramís life were a hundred and thirty-seven.[Exodus 6:19-20]

And here's another great example of incest from the buy-bull, Amnon rapes his own sister:

Come lie with me, my sister. She answered him: Do not so, my brother, do not force me: for no such thing must be done in Israel. Do not thou this folly.[II Kings 13:8-12] But he would not hearken to her prayers, but being stronger overpowered her and lay with her.[II Kings 13:14]

Such great values in that book!

“Come and get it! ”

Since: Jan 09

Traverse City

#42 Dec 12, 2011
Arctic49519 wrote:
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Incest is something that religion teaches. I'm not a christian so I would never support something like that.
In the buy-bull, the "righteous" Lot knocked up both of his daughters:
Come, let us make him drunk with wine, and let us lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father. And they made their father drink wine that night: and the elder went in and lay with her father: but he perceived not neither when his daughter lay down, nor when she rose up. And the next day the elder said to the younger: Behold I lay last night with my father, let us make him drink wine also to night, and thou shalt lie with him, that we may save seed of our father. They made their father drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in, and lay with him: and neither then did he perceive when she lay down, nor when she rose up. So the two daughters of Lot were with child by their father.[Genesis 19:31-36]
Amram married and knocked up his own aunt. That means Moses was an incest baby.
And Amram took to wife Jochabed his aunt by the fatherís side: and she bore him Aaron and Moses. And the years of Amramís life were a hundred and thirty-seven.[Exodus 6:19-20]
And here's another great example of incest from the buy-bull, Amnon rapes his own sister:
Come lie with me, my sister. She answered him: Do not so, my brother, do not force me: for no such thing must be done in Israel. Do not thou this folly.[II Kings 13:8-12] But he would not hearken to her prayers, but being stronger overpowered her and lay with her.[II Kings 13:14]
Such great values in that book!
It was a joke. I was kidding around. If you liberal heathens weren't so angry all of the time, and had a sense of humor, you'd have realized that and wouldn't have wasted all of your time looking up passages from the bible.

So sorry you put all that work and research into your post for nothing. Better luck next time...
Mark

Holland, MI

#43 Dec 12, 2011
abranger wrote:
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So, the gist of your argument is that, in your opinion, it should not be illegal, therefore, it's ok to glorify it. Evidently laws that you don't agree with mean nothing to you. The typical lib "never quite got out of the 60's" point of view. YOU are what's wrong with this country.
So you're against moonshining being legal for what reason? Quality control?

Since: Jan 09

Hersey, Michigan

#44 Dec 13, 2011
Mark wrote:
<quoted text>So you're against moonshining being legal for what reason? Quality control?
I have no opinion as to whether it should or should not be legalized. That's not the point of this thread. Why is it so many people with opinions about legality refuse to accept that it is currently against the law whether they agree with that or not? Are you advocating breaking any law you don't personally agree with?

Since: Jan 09

Hersey, Michigan

#45 Dec 13, 2011
Arctic49519 wrote:
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Victimless "crime" between non-violent consenting adults.
We don't have the resources to continue enforcing stupid victimless laws.
The problem is dinosaurs like you can't learn from the history of failure of these laws, and are willing to give early release to child molesters and real criminals in order to make room in prisons for these people.
When did alcoholism become victimless? I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you that perhaps it should be legalized but your opinion doesn't make it legal. The criminal justice system's inequities (and there are many) is a topic for another thread.
Mark

Rockford, MI

#46 Dec 13, 2011
abranger wrote:
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I have no opinion as to whether it should or should not be legalized. That's not the point of this thread. Why is it so many people with opinions about legality refuse to accept that it is currently against the law whether they agree with that or not? Are you advocating breaking any law you don't personally agree with?
No, but the legality I think that's the bigger question here. What you choose to watch is your business. And don't think all kinds of documentaries haven't been filmed and released about people breaking and enforcing the law. There are thousands.

I will leave you with this G W quote, and then go setup my still ;)
To the security of a free constitution it contributes in various ways--by convincing those who are intrusted with the public administration that every valuable end of government is best answered by the enlightened confidence of the people, and by teaching the people themselves to know and to value their own rights; to discern and provide against invasions of them; to distinguish between oppression and the necessary exercise of lawful authority; between burthens proceeding from a disregard to their convenience and those resulting from the inevitable exigencies of society; to discriminate the spirit of liberty from that of licentiousness-- cherishing the first, avoiding the last--and uniting a speedy but temperate vigilance against encroachments, with an inviolable respect to the laws.
Mark

Rockford, MI

#47 Dec 13, 2011
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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I'm from the era of Bonanza, Roy Rogers, Gunsmoke, Lucille Ball, Ed Sulliuvan, The Beatles, Bing Crosby, The Duke, Bob Hope, Flip Wilson, Red Skelton, Tim Conway, and such...I think you know what I mean.
TV today is so f**ked up it's incredible.
I'm right there with you
Brad

Johnson City, TN

#48 Dec 14, 2011
abranger wrote:
Just curious. Does anyone have a problem with reality shows on national TV glorifying illegal activities? Have they gone too far? Perhaps they should film a bank robber or maybe a rapist in action...or how about a serial killer, that would make a good show. Where does it end? Do the advertisers give a damn? What does it teach our kids about our laws?
Any comments? And please, I don't care if you agree or disagree with moonshining...that's not the issue, it's still against the law.
Not wearing a seat belt is also against the law. Making liquor is not against the law (for personal use). Not paying taxes on the liquor when it's sold is. He's no different that Jack Daniels or Jim Beam other than having the correct paperwork. You are comparing rape and serial murder to tax fraud. Apples and oranges, don't you think?
LMS

Grand Haven, MI

#49 Dec 15, 2011
I will have to agree with St. Stevie and Arctic on one point......the war on drugs is ridiculous and needs to end. It is a complete and utter waste of taxpayers dollars. For every one "big" dealer they take down, there are ten more waiting to take his spot and customers. I think taking some of that taxpayer money and investing it into drug education and awareness programs may better serve our citizens. Oh yeah, and parents stepping up and caring about what their kids are doing instead of turning a blind eye.
Go Blue

West Palm Beach, FL

#50 Dec 15, 2011
Better yet, would'nt it make much more sense, to remove marijuana from the drug war and concentrate on the really harmful drugs? I know it would make it alot simpler for the authoritys to narrow their efforts, toward the real danger......Moonshining seems centered in the Appelachia area, where many of the country and mountain people, live in poverty.....Johnny Walker Red is not a part of their future.....
Mark

Rockford, MI

#51 Dec 15, 2011
Go Blue wrote:
Better yet, would'nt it make much more sense, to remove marijuana from the drug war and concentrate on the really harmful drugs? I know it would make it alot simpler for the authoritys to narrow their efforts, toward the real danger......Moonshining seems centered in the Appelachia area, where many of the country and mountain people, live in poverty.....Johnny Walker Red is not a part of their future.....
They are scotch Irish, it's part of their heritage.

“Where I came from”

Since: Jan 09

the universe

#52 Dec 17, 2011
The thing about reality shows is there is nothing real about them, but what do I know I have never watched one for longer than five minutes. I guess its all the scripted drama.
Go Blue

West Palm Beach, FL

#53 Dec 17, 2011
Mark wrote:
<quoted text>They are scotch Irish, it's part of their heritage.
You see them all over this state...with their pickups with ladders, doing home improvement scams.....
Go Blue

West Palm Beach, FL

#54 Dec 17, 2011
Sorry, i was talking about the "Travellers" there....white gypsys that live in South Carolina.....
vox veritatis

Grand Rapids, MI

#55 Dec 17, 2011
LMS wrote:
I think taking some of that taxpayer money and investing it into drug education and awareness programs may better serve our citizens.
You don't think that's already happening? Unfortunately, we are sending kids a mixed message so all the 'education' we can throw at them is wasted. On the one hand, we as a society glorify the us of drugs and alcohol (or at least minimize their danger) and on the other, we tell kids not to do it. Kids will always emulate what they see, especially when it doesn't line up with what you say.
Mark

Rockford, MI

#56 Dec 17, 2011
Go Blue wrote:
Sorry, i was talking about the "Travellers" there....white gypsys that live in South Carolina.....
Those are Irish, not scotch irish
TKMDiggs

Grand Rapids, MI

#57 Dec 18, 2011
Mr Wiggley wrote:
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I'm from the era of Bonanza, Roy Rogers, Gunsmoke, Lucille Ball, Ed Sulliuvan, The Beatles, Bing Crosby, The Duke, Bob Hope, Flip Wilson, Red Skelton, Tim Conway, and such...I think you know what I mean.
TV today is so f**ked up it's incredible.
Hey, Mr Wiggley, do you have XM Radio? A channel names 'Radio Classics' plays radio versions of what you just listed 24/7.
WAY before my time, but I'm completely hooked! I'd rather listen to a version of Gunsmoke or Jack Benny than watch anything from today's TV lineup.
Go Blue

West Palm Beach, FL

#58 Dec 18, 2011
TKMDiggs wrote:
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Hey, Mr Wiggley, do you have XM Radio? A channel names 'Radio Classics' plays radio versions of what you just listed 24/7.
WAY before my time, but I'm completely hooked! I'd rather listen to a version of Gunsmoke or Jack Benny than watch anything from today's TV lineup.
That is from before my time, but elders have told me it was kinda more fun with radio shows, because they used their imaginations more......the heavyset guy that played Cannon on TV, was Matt Dillon on radio, i believe.....
TKMDiggs

Grand Rapids, MI

#59 Dec 19, 2011
Go Blue wrote:
<quoted text> That is from before my time, but elders have told me it was kinda more fun with radio shows, because they used their imaginations more......the heavyset guy that played Cannon on TV, was Matt Dillon on radio, i believe.....
Yep ... his name was William Conrad, and he had a voice that makes James Earl Jones sound like Pee Wee Herman!
I can attest to the imagination part. I listen to those old shows sometimes on my commute and it's pretty fun to put a face to the voice. I'm always WAAAY off when I look them up online :)

I haven't watched this moonshiners who, but there are a few cable shows I like to catch. Mythbusters and American Pickers come to mind.

“lover”

Since: Feb 09

Dorr MI

#60 Dec 19, 2011
http://www.riflemansrifle.com/testimonials/ke... The Rifleman was my favorite, I even had a Daisy BB gun that looked just like the Rifleman's Winchester. Man those were the days!

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