New chiropractic tool treats back pain without manual adjustments

It sounds like an electronic woodpecker, but a device called the Pro-Adjuster is treating painful back problems right here in West Michigan. Full Story
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Dave

Saint Charles, IL

#1 Apr 29, 2008
There is an instrument that has been around since the 1960's. It is called an Activator. A lot of Michigan chiropractors use this instrument without manual(hand)adjusting. This instrument is very precise and gentle.
Wisdom

Brooklyn, NY

#2 Apr 29, 2008
Its a reconditioned dental instrument.

Another quack technique that can't help anything.

You might as well tap on your neck and hope to cure disease.
Love Chiropractic

West Bloomfield, MI

#3 Apr 29, 2008
Wisdom wrote:
Its a reconditioned dental instrument.
Another quack technique that can't help anything.
You might as well tap on your neck and hope to cure disease.
Eight years ago I blew a disc in my lower back, and experienced the absolute worst pain of my life. I was laid up on my back for over a month and was hardly able to function at all. I decided to forgo surgery and at the advice of a friend, I went to a chiropractor and now whole-heartedly believe in chiropractic.

I now live nearly 100% pain free WITHOUT surgery, and I feel GREAT after being adjusted. I live much healthier and I believe that chiropractic is the reason that I rarely become ill. I have not had the flu once since I started seeing my chiropractor, and I used to get headaches daily, but now I might get a headache once every few weeks.

Don't believe people that are afraid of chiropractic simply because they have never gone to a chiropractor. Chiropractors do go to school for a long time, and there are some VERY good ones out there, especially mine.

Oh yeah, my wife AND my daughter both go, and they always look forward to it.

BDC

“Want Truth?”

Since: Dec 07

South Carolina

#4 Apr 29, 2008
Wisdom wrote:
Its a reconditioned dental instrument.
Another quack technique that can't help anything.
You might as well tap on your neck and hope to cure disease.
Nope, wrong again. Maybe redesigned but definitely not reconditioned.

What about the activator II, III, and IV? ar ethey recondition as well?

“WINGS....ROCK The Ice YEAH!”

Since: Mar 08

Allendale, MI

#5 Apr 29, 2008
It would depend on which type of Chiro one goes to if the treatment helps...Good chiros take xrays first then determind the situation of the dis-order then preceede..Guess Wisdoms, Wisdom isnt Wisdom. is it? Do not underestamate a Pros Wisdom....

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#6 Apr 30, 2008
I go every six weeks, and I too love my chiropractor. I had the worst time(s) with back pain and migraines, and ever since I started going in faithfully for adjustments, I don't have them.

Of course doctors aren't going to refer anyone to a chiropractor. Chiropractors don't let the drug companies pay their college bills, in return for pushing their drugs. But they certainly know what they are doing. MINE does, at any rate!
Neko

United States

#7 Apr 30, 2008
Just another Quack cure by a bunch of quacks claiming to be medical "professionals"...

(I wasted lots of money to find this out!)

When is the FDA going to arrest them?

Chiropractors are scam artists!(And so are drug warriors who keep coming up with excuses to deny painkillers to people in pain!)
Batch 37 Pain is Good

Barnesville, OH

#8 Apr 30, 2008
Neko wrote:
Just another Quack cure by a bunch of quacks claiming to be medical "professionals"...
(I wasted lots of money to find this out!)
When is the FDA going to arrest them?
Chiropractors are scam artists!(And so are drug warriors who keep coming up with excuses to deny painkillers to people in pain!)
Good Morning Neko!
James

Grant, MI

#9 Apr 30, 2008
Wisdom, How smart you sound. You need an adjustment. Chiropractors are great, it's the MDs that only know how to use pain pills that are useless. Just ask Neko. Few too many Valium there pal?

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#10 Apr 30, 2008
Neko wrote:
Just another Quack cure by a bunch of quacks claiming to be medical "professionals"...
(I wasted lots of money to find this out!)
When is the FDA going to arrest them?
Chiropractors are scam artists!(And so are drug warriors who keep coming up with excuses to deny painkillers to people in pain!)
Good morning Neko! Don't skip on any of those drugs today, now, you hear?
nwtk2007

Dallas, TX

#11 Apr 30, 2008
What is the difference between activator II, III and IV?

And I'm glad to hear more people are getting good results whit their chiropractors despite the anti-chiropractic failures.

“WINGS....ROCK The Ice YEAH!”

Since: Mar 08

Allendale, MI

#12 Apr 30, 2008
Good morning Neko..Sry that your ill...Pain is never any fun....

Loves her Chiro

BDC

“Want Truth?”

Since: Dec 07

South Carolina

#13 Apr 30, 2008
nwtk2007 wrote:
What is the difference between activator II, III and IV?
And I'm glad to hear more people are getting good results whit their chiropractors despite the anti-chiropractic failures.
Activator I: adjustable screw setting $159.99
Activator II: improvement on I $339.99
Activator III: 3 pre-set settings $?
Activator IV: 4 pre-set settings $629.99

Activator I and II I like to use because you can vary the strength instead of only 3-4 settings.

J-tech has a cheaper copy and I have seen many wear out and it is not as smooth.
Wisdom

Brooklyn, NY

#14 Apr 30, 2008
Activator...still a bizarre quack chiropractic technique.....absolutely no evidence that that spring loaded contraption can do anything. NONE.

Deal with it. Use some common sense people.

BDC

“Want Truth?”

Since: Dec 07

South Carolina

#15 Apr 30, 2008
Wisdom wrote:
Activator...still a bizarre quack chiropractic technique.....absolutely no evidence that that spring loaded contraption can do anything. NONE.
Deal with it. Use some common sense people.
"Finally, Kahan called into question the safety of the Activator Devices themselves, particularly the Activator I and the cervical tip attachment. He argued that "the amount of force delivered by the devices may be excessive;"

Among the specific accusations was that the "high speed of the device ... delivers a concentrated force that is potentially dangerous when applied to the spine." The lawyer explained to the FDA official"

from the chiropractic journal
Wisdom

Brooklyn, NY

#16 Apr 30, 2008
the chiropractic journal....Quack!

Since: Sep 07

Location hidden

#17 Apr 30, 2008
Wisdom wrote:
the chiropractic journal....Quack!
Quacks are doctors who rely on drugs, and drug companies, to practice medicine, instead of using common sense.

I know I am not seeing a 'quack'.
nwtk2007

Dallas, TX

#18 Apr 30, 2008
I would agree that there is significant force and would rec the more blunt tip to dissipate the force over a wider area of tissue.

That kind of dispells the notion that one is "clicking" the side of the neck.

I have had quite a few patients come in this week telling me they saw a report on TV about the use of activator/chiropractic to reduce blood pressure. They were very excited about it. Esp the ones taking Bp meds. They say the meds make them feel terrible.

I haven't seen the report personally but will check it out.

My patients are very positive about treatments without medications. They all hate the way the meds make them feel. I would never have thought there were so many who are positive about chiropractic.
Robert

Syracuse, NY

#19 Apr 30, 2008
Although it may be helpful in some very limited cases, chiropractic has its' origins in witchcraft. I would be very careful about any treatment proposed by a chiropractor. There are many con artists in the business and they are quick to rope you into a life long committment.
nwtk2007

Dallas, TX

#20 Apr 30, 2008
I find it to be the most therapeutic treatment I can offer my patients who are injured (sprain/strains mostly).

Considering it's "witchcraft" origins as you say, it is also surprizing that so many others (DO's, PT's, etc.)do such similar treatments. PT's continually fight for legalization to do spinal manipulations and actualy can in some states. Many DO's still do it regularly although the number is dwindling as they become more and more the medical doctor, which is fine.

There are some semmantics issues but it is essentially the same type of thing.

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