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Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Brighton, MI

#1 Dec 6, 2013
But refused to go to Thatcher's, head of State that played a big part in bring down the USSR. Along with Reagan and the Pope. Now the press is comparing Obama with Mandela.......
Brown Girl in the Ring

UK

#2 Dec 6, 2013
So what?
Fran

Holland, MI

#3 Dec 6, 2013
Who?
Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#4 Dec 6, 2013
Obama has never allied himself with England. If you study Obama's father's anti-colonialist views it comes as no surprise. I heard Obama did make a classy gesture to invite the Bush's on Air Force One for the memorial.

I won't diss Obama for visiting Mandela. Mandela was a brave man who fought against injustice. I may not agree with every character he befriended, but I've always thought he cared about the best interest of people.

Juan Williams on Fox's 'The Five', who interviewed him, said that Mandela was keenly interested in America's founding fathers, on citizenship of Americans and the rights bestowed upon us, and also how a nation predominantly white could make such great strides in equal rights.
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#5 Dec 10, 2013
Not uprising that Batch would get his panties all bunched up ad try to compare Nelson Mandela with the Iron Lady...... They had so much in common!

How many years did Maggie spend in prison because she worked towards equality for her people?

How many times after she became the leader of her country, did she reach out to the other side in an attempt to heal the things that divided her country?

And finally, how many years did it take for the Iron Lady to decide to get behind the movement to see the end of the apartheid system that jailed a man simply because he wanted freedom for his own people?

Bonus Question BatchyBoi.....

Can you name the great conservative hero that vetoed the Comprehensive Anti-Apartheid Act?
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Brighton, MI

#6 Dec 10, 2013
Bob wrote:
Not uprising that Batch would get his panties all bunched up ad try to compare Nelson Mandela with the Iron Lady...... They had so much in common!
How many years did Maggie spend in prison because she worked towards equality for her people?
How many times after she became the leader of her country, did she reach out to the other side in an attempt to heal the things that divided her country?
And finally, how many years did it take for the Iron Lady to decide to get behind the movement to see the end of the apartheid system that jailed a man simply because he wanted freedom for his own people?
Bonus Question BatchyBoi.....
Can you name the great conservative hero that vetoed the Comprehensive Anti-Apartheid Act?
OK Bobbie, I will play since you were probably still in diapers back in the 80's...... The cold war was the influence on a lot of foreign policy in the Reagan Admin..... Are you keeping up? Reagan voted against anything presented that had to do with any Soviet sponsored ANC was a communist organization..... His decision did not have anything to do one man..... The Iron lady help with freeing millions around the world...... Not a bad thing...
Barb Strysand

Hudsonville, MI

#7 Dec 10, 2013
If Bush had any class he'd turn down the ride with Obama and say he'd rather walk than be beholden to that socialist loser.
free thinker

Farmington, MI

#8 Dec 10, 2013
Bob wrote:
Not uprising that Batch would get his panties all bunched up ad try to compare Nelson Mandela with the Iron Lady...... They had so much in common!
Funny...I don't recall Margaret Thatcher being a prison reformed terrorist.
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Brighton, MI

#9 Dec 10, 2013
Bob wrote:
Not uprising that Batch would get his panties all bunched up ad try to compare Nelson Mandela with the Iron Lady...... They had so much in common!
How many years did Maggie spend in prison because she worked towards equality for her people?
How many times after she became the leader of her country, did she reach out to the other side in an attempt to heal the things that divided her country?
And finally, how many years did it take for the Iron Lady to decide to get behind the movement to see the end of the apartheid system that jailed a man simply because he wanted freedom for his own people?
Bonus Question BatchyBoi.....
Can you name the great conservative hero that vetoed the Comprehensive Anti-Apartheid Act?
Heard some history today from a S. African about what really put Mandela behind bars. He was asked by the govt to denounce terrorism and they would let he go free...... He refused.... His wife, Winnie, killed people by necklacing them for the ANC..... Better bone up on this side of the pond Bobbie...... Mandela had some 27 terror charges against him......
Who

Wyoming, MI

#10 Dec 10, 2013
And why shouldn't he?

Terrorist sympathizers are his kind of people.

Since: Mar 09

Grandville, MI

#11 Dec 10, 2013
Obama was only there for "celebrity" purposes.
He took a "selfie" with some blond, and MO don't look very happy about it.

http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Decoder/Decod...

Just goes to show what we really have for a Commander in Chief.

The sooner he's gone the better.
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#12 Dec 11, 2013
Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:
<quoted text>OK Bobbie, I will play since you were probably still in diapers back in the 80's...... The cold war was the influence on a lot of foreign policy in the Reagan Admin..... Are you keeping up? Reagan voted against anything presented that had to do with any Soviet sponsored ANC was a communist organization..... His decision did not have anything to do one man..... The Iron lady help with freeing millions around the world...... Not a bad thing...
That's pretty weak......

While Ronnie was supposedly turning his back on one commie in Africa, he spent most of his presidency cuddling up to the Soviet Premiere..... Can we assume that this confusion was all a part of his Alzheimer's Disease?

Meanwhile, if Maggie or any other postwar English PM was freeing anyone, they were the people who had been subjected to living under colonial rule.

Nelson Mandela and the other members of the ANC were fighting for a just cause, the same as many people who have been forced to live as second class citizens. If they looked to communist countries for help in that struggle, it could very well have been because nations that professed their belief in freedom for all wasn't supported with real actions.

The mere fact that his presidency resulted in equal rights for all of South Africa's population, white or black, puts him way out in front of Reagan, Thatcher, and many of your other favorite so-called patriots!
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#13 Dec 11, 2013
Gville Jim wrote:
Obama was only there for "celebrity" purposes.
He took a "selfie" with some blond, and MO don't look very happy about it.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/DC-Decoder/Decod...
Just goes to show what we really have for a Commander in Chief.
The sooner he's gone the better.
Don't forget the wad conservative panties got into when he had the audacity to shake hands with the Commie from Cuba.......

The President sure keeps you baggers busy...... Takes you farther away from BENGAHZI every day!
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Brighton, MI

#14 Dec 11, 2013
Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
That's pretty weak......
While Ronnie was supposedly turning his back on one commie in Africa, he spent most of his presidency cuddling up to the Soviet Premiere..... Can we assume that this confusion was all a part of his Alzheimer's Disease?
Meanwhile, if Maggie or any other postwar English PM was freeing anyone, they were the people who had been subjected to living under colonial rule.
Nelson Mandela and the other members of the ANC were fighting for a just cause, the same as many people who have been forced to live as second class citizens. If they looked to communist countries for help in that struggle, it could very well have been because nations that professed their belief in freedom for all wasn't supported with real actions.
The mere fact that his presidency resulted in equal rights for all of South Africa's population, white or black, puts him way out in front of Reagan, Thatcher, and many of your other favorite so-called patriots!
You really are terror friendly. You should get Beck's book Massacres and Miracles..... It has good news and bad news about our Country's history.......
Montel

Holland, MI

#15 Dec 11, 2013
The media, in their rush to canonize Mandela, predicted "the world's biggest funeral" for Mandela. Yet only 60,000 people showed up in a 95,000-seat soccer stadium for Mandela. And Mandela's funeral drew about 4,940,000 people less than John Paul II's did. Poor Mandela.
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#16 Dec 12, 2013
Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:
<quoted text>You really are terror friendly. You should get Beck's book Massacres and Miracles..... It has good news and bad news about our Country's history.......
If the term had been in use at the time, I'm pretty sure that King George would have used the word terrorist to describe the colonists. Those who resort to fighting for their freedom are often called derogatory names by their oppressors.

Bad news in a book written by Glenn Beck, would have to be that there are so many of your type that would actually believe what he wrote......
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Brighton, MI

#17 Dec 12, 2013
Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
If the term had been in use at the time, I'm pretty sure that King George would have used the word terrorist to describe the colonists. Those who resort to fighting for their freedom are often called derogatory names by their oppressors.
Bad news in a book written by Glenn Beck, would have to be that there are so many of your type that would actually believe what he wrote......
Stay ignorant Bobbie, stay ignorant...... The progressives need useful idiots to push their agendas....... Don't be surprised when they stiff you...... Which has happened in history.......
free thinker

Farmington, MI

#18 Dec 12, 2013
Bob wrote:
If the term had been in use at the time, I'm pretty sure that King George would have used the word terrorist to describe the colonists.
And if you were around back then, I'm pretty sure you would have been a Hessian or one of the Tories as much as you like to lick the boots of the powers that be.

“Where I came from”

Since: Jan 09

the universe

#19 Dec 13, 2013
If Mandela was white man he would have never made the news,
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#20 Dec 13, 2013
Shoeless Eluder wrote:
If Mandela was white man he would have never made the news,
Possibly.......

Maybe because he wouldn't have been the victim of a system that deemed one group was better than the other based solely on the color of his skin. Of course Lincoln was white and is now widely hailed by all you conservatives for freeing an oppressed people.

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