Since: Oct 12

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#21 Apr 7, 2013
Your mom my crotch wrote:
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A man has a right to defend himself. There is no doubt that Zimmerman is the aggressor here. If he wouldn't have initiated the confrontation there would have been no reason for the altercation and one more human being would be on this planet. Zimmerman went after him simply because he was a black person. If being black justifies someone being profiled and harassed for no good reason then this country has taken a huge step backwards.
PLEASE.....PLEASE.....PLEASE.. ...SHOW ME AT ONCE....Any proof or evidence you have uncovered, showing that Zimmerman was physically, the aggressor??????????
Phil

Oxford, MI

#22 Apr 7, 2013
Your mom my crotch wrote:
<quoted text>A man has a right to defend himself. There is no doubt that Zimmerman is the aggressor here. If he wouldn't have initiated the confrontation there would have been no reason for the altercation and one more human being would be on this planet. Zimmerman went after him simply because he was a black person. If being black justifies someone being profiled and harassed for no good reason then this country has taken a huge step backwards.
You talk as though you were there and know what was going thru their minds. That is your flaw in your misguided life. With that nobody can talk sense into you. Maybe you should go dancing with Jason. I'm sure he has some spare costumes you could borrow.
Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#23 Apr 8, 2013
Your mom my crotch wrote:
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Fact is if it was a white kid Zimmerman would have never raised an eyebrow and nothing would have happened. If you don't think race had anything to do with this then you are just another idiot with access to a computer. It's people like you that lower out country's collective IQ.
Considering your chosen name I'd say you are about the last person to talk about low IQ.

If race had anything to do with this shooting the article below might provide an answer why:
http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/cutline/zimmerman...

Like Go Blue said, this specific shooting has been hashed out on this site to the point of ridiculousness in the past. If people want to discuss racism in America I'll be more than willing to do so. In fact, I think it would be pretty interesting. But I'm not going to argue Zimmerman/Martin all over again, and I'm not going to debate anything with someone who can't even drag their name out of a grade school level gutter.
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#24 Apr 8, 2013
Gville Jim wrote:
<quoted text>Do you think that the two black teenagers that shot the baby in the head purchased that gun legally, and went through a background check?
Do you think the gun they used was legally manufactured?

If it was, then how did it end up in the hands of someone that was too young to own it?
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#25 Apr 8, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
We are entering a situation that has been debated thoroughly on this forum, previously.....All evidence so far, including witness accounts show that Trayvon made a fatal mistake, by attacking a man who was armed.....
It's been widely discussed, but the only evidence has actually been that the matter will be left up to a jury to decide. I'm satisfied to reserve any further comments on that part of this until the trial is completed.

To the subject of the thread, Its obvious that both parties decided that it was in their best interest to settle out of court. Unless those parties decide to explain why the agreed to that settlement, the best any of us can do is to guess..... Either way.

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#26 Apr 8, 2013
Bob wrote:
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It's been widely discussed, but the only evidence has actually been that the matter will be left up to a jury to decide. I'm satisfied to reserve any further comments on that part of this until the trial is completed.
To the subject of the thread, Its obvious that both parties decided that it was in their best interest to settle out of court. Unless those parties decide to explain why the agreed to that settlement, the best any of us can do is to guess..... Either way.
Still have to admit.....if only Trayvon's mother and father had dedicated as much energy into actually parenting him better.....as they have profitting from his death, eh? Wonder whose watching his sibling?

“lover”

Since: Feb 09

Dorr MI

#27 Apr 8, 2013
Bob wrote:
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Do you think the gun they used was legally manufactured?
If it was, then how did it end up in the hands of someone that was too young to own it?
I know this was directed at Jim, but I'm going to bite.
Question#1 Yes I believe it was.
Question#2 Probably stolen.
My question to you is, do you think it's right to make over a million Americans, that have never committed a crime federal criminals because they own a gun?
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#28 Apr 8, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>Still have to admit.....if only Trayvon's mother and father had dedicated as much energy into actually parenting him better.....as they have profitting from his death, eh? Wonder whose watching his sibling?
And I still have to admit that if the self appointed captain of the neighborhood watch had followed the actual rules, the association wouldn't have been writing a check to them....

Wonder if the association is looking closer at their staff?
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#29 Apr 8, 2013
Living Large2 wrote:
<quoted text>I know this was directed at Jim, but I'm going to bite.
Question#1 Yes I believe it was.
Question#2 Probably stolen.
My question to you is, do you think it's right to make over a million Americans, that have never committed a crime federal criminals because they own a gun?
Your question proves that you can't remember or won't read what I've already said numerous times before.

Do I really have to go through the whole damn thing again?

“lover”

Since: Feb 09

Dorr MI

#30 Apr 8, 2013
Bob wrote:
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Your question proves that you can't remember or won't read what I've already said numerous times before.
Do I really have to go through the whole damn thing again?
Jeez! Bob, a simple yes or no would have been fine.
St Stephen

Grand Rapids, MI

#31 Apr 8, 2013
Chip wrote:
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Fact is if Martin wasn't checking out houses in an area he had no reason to be in....
No reason to be in?????!!!!! Why are you people always so wrong on issues you feel so compelled to comment on?????!!! Do you not even understand the basic facts concerning this story? An area he had no reason to be in???? Really!!!??? The stupidity is deafening!!!

Trayvon was staying in that community with his father!!! His father was there vistiing his girlfriend who lived there!!! He was walking from a 7-11 back to her house. If you want to get involved in a conversation about an issue then please, please get yourself educated on that issue. You've had over a year to do that!! At least a half-assed attempt or a few Google searches would educate you on the basic facts of this story but saddly it seems you haven't even done that. Are you that lazy or do you just choose to create your own reality?

Since: Oct 12

Location hidden

#32 Apr 8, 2013
Bob wrote:
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And I still have to admit that if the self appointed captain of the neighborhood watch had followed the actual rules, the association wouldn't have been writing a check to them....
Wonder if the association is looking closer at their staff?
That may be the good news.....the bad news is they would still be pressure washing George's grey matter off the sidewalk.......
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#34 Apr 8, 2013
Chip wrote:
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Fact is if Martin wasn't checking out houses in an area he had no reason to be in, walking around in the rain and simply answered Zimmerman's question instead of attacking him he would still be alive. You may want to check your IQ because blatant facts seem to escape you.
Sources please. You're not going to get a pass on this garbage you ignorant little twerp. "Checking out house where he had no reason to be in" If he would have just answered Zimmerman's question instead of attacking him" "You may want to check your IQ because 'blatant' facts seem to escape you" Well if the facts are so blatant then lets see them, otherwise just shut your pie hole. Why do I have to keep telling you that you just can't run your mouth on here without backing it up?
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#35 Apr 8, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>That may be the good news.....the bad news is they would still be pressure washing George's grey matter off the sidewalk.......
You really need to explain this one too. Are you saying had zimmerman not murdered Travon, the result would have been zimmerman carrying around a bullet hole? If you are, this is garbage too. Back it up.
St Stephen

Grand Rapids, MI

#36 Apr 8, 2013
pipedream wrote:
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You really need to explain this one too. Are you saying had zimmerman not murdered Travon, the result would have been zimmerman carrying around a bullet hole? If you are, this is garbage too. Back it up.
Yes what they are saying is had Zimmerman not gotten out of his vehicle and pursued Trayvon that Trayvon would have killed Zimmerman. For what? Not sure, maybe because Trayvon is black and that's what black people do.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#37 Apr 8, 2013
Bob wrote:
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And I still have to admit that if the self appointed captain of the neighborhood watch had followed the actual rules, the association wouldn't have been writing a check to them....
Wonder if the association is looking closer at their staff?
There better be a new staff. I don't believe for a second that no one on the association board new about zimmerman before this incident And if this causes the homeowner's dues to go up one penny because of the board's incompetency that needs to be dealt with also.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#38 Apr 8, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>PLEASE.....PLEASE..... PLEASE.....SHOW ME AT ONCE....Any proof or evidence you have uncovered, showing that Zimmerman was physically, the aggressor??????????
You weren't there either were you? So where are the facts to show that Zimmerman was NOT the aggressor here. Zimmerman chased this kid down for no good reason, confronted him, and then proceeded to murder murder this kid when things started going bad. I'd say Zimmerman's gun courage overode his a$$ on this one. Zimmerman should be convicted soley on the grounds that he's an a$$hole. Anyone who doesn't see this, is not in touch with their faculties.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#39 Apr 8, 2013
St Stephen wrote:
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Yes what they are saying is had Zimmerman not gotten out of his vehicle and pursued Trayvon that Trayvon would have killed Zimmerman. For what? Not sure, maybe because Trayvon is black and that's what black people do.
If that's what they think we're all in trouble. Someone stalks me, confronts me with a gun and starts asking questions when I'm minding my own business, talking to me all billy badasss, the stalker is going to have problems. Zimmerman obviously didn't understand that because he had a gun and figured he could use it on someone whenever and wherever he felt like. That needs to change. This asinine FL "stand your ground law" is another one by none other that ALEC - American Legislative Exchange Commission - another front organization of the KOCK brothers.

http://www.alecexposed.org/wiki/What_is_ALEC%...

ALEC needs to be exposed for the sewer life it is. So does George Zimmerman.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#40 Apr 8, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
We are entering a situation that has been debated thoroughly on this forum, previously.....All evidence so far, including witness accounts show that Trayvon made a fatal mistake, by attacking a man who was armed.....
Trayvon has a right to stand his ground if he reasonable believed his life was in imminent danger or he was at risk for great bodily harm. Trayvon was unarmed. The thug vigilante Zimmerman was armed and was stalking Trayvon. Trayvon is under no obligation to retreat if we was not committing a crime and if he reasonably believed his life was in imminent danger. Zimmerman is going to be convicted. There's too much evidence showing he was the stalker and the aggressor. Z's claim that his life was in imminent danger AFTER he confronted Trayvon is weak. There's a nice cell waiting for Z in a FL corrections facility.
free thinker

Farmington, MI

#41 Apr 8, 2013
pipedream wrote:
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You weren't there either were you? So where are the facts to show that Zimmerman was NOT the aggressor here. Zimmerman chased this kid down for no good reason, confronted him, and then proceeded to murder murder this kid when things started going bad. I'd say Zimmerman's gun courage overode his a$$ on this one. Zimmerman should be convicted soley on the grounds that he's an a$$hole. Anyone who doesn't see this, is not in touch with their faculties.
Greyboxer

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