4 year old falls from window dies

4 year old falls from window dies

There are 165 comments on the WOOD-TV Grand Rapids and Michigan story from Apr 13, 2009, titled 4 year old falls from window dies. In it, WOOD-TV Grand Rapids and Michigan reports that:

A 4-year-old fell to his death from a window above the driveway at this house in Allendale Township.

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ArealCSI

United States

#128 Apr 14, 2009
Once may be an accident; twice is neglect.
youpeoplemakemes ick

Grand Rapids, MI

#129 Apr 14, 2009
wow wrote:
However, your children ARE NOT 4 YEARS OLD. Many parents I know, including myself, leave the door to the bathroom open so one eye can still be kept on the child(ren). My issue is the lack of supervision through even being able to HEAR what was going on and run over. These parents were obviously both out of hearing range and out of seeing range.
Are you telling me you left your children when they were toddlers so alone that you could neither see nor hear them?????
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hmm did anyone think that maybe one of the parents might have a hearing problem????? i hope karma catches up to you all and you will feel like crap too when people start talking crap about you. i wish someone on here could prove to me with out a doubt that they do everysingle thing that they say they do

“Just be you. ”

Since: May 08

Muskegon,MI

#130 Apr 14, 2009
Yesterdays News wrote:
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Congratulations! You lucked out. Sometimes, all the prevention in the world can't stop a very determined child from getting into trouble.
Maybe the issue is a design problem. Why would anyone install a sliding window on the second floor above a driveway? A smaller, double hung window would most likely have prevented both of these terrible accidents.
Are you serious??

I see houses with windows like this everywhere, but yet I rarely hear of falls from the windows.

It is not a design problem. My home has two stories,windows such as these, two children and no falls.

Once the first child fell, the windows, I should say the SCREENS, should have be secured(ALL of them in the whole upstairs). They should have been secured so that NO CHILD could have EVER fallen out of them again. But this obviously did not take place....because this child has died.

So tragic...so preventable.
Unbelievable

United States

#131 Apr 14, 2009
youpeoplemakemesick wrote:
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hmm did anyone think that maybe one of the parents might have a hearing problem????? i hope karma catches up to you all and you will feel like crap too when people start talking crap about you. i wish someone on here could prove to me with out a doubt that they do everysingle thing that they say they do
So it's perfectly fine with you when a child dies needlessly? I'll talk crap about whoever I want - especially people who can't take care of their kids. It's you that makes me sick for wanting people to look the other way when a child dies.

Since: Jul 07

Grandville, MI

#132 Apr 14, 2009
baseball wrote:
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Are you serious??
I see houses with windows like this everywhere, but yet I rarely hear of falls from the windows.
It is not a design problem. My home has two stories,windows such as these, two children and no falls.
Once the first child fell, the windows, I should say the SCREENS, should have be secured(ALL of them in the whole upstairs). They should have been secured so that NO CHILD could have EVER fallen out of them again. But this obviously did not take place....because this child has died.
So tragic...so preventable.
I agree something more should have been done but securing the screens would not made much of a difference. They are very easy to push out I have did it & my cat has pushed through many times.
Screens are not meant to keep pets or children inside. only to keep bugs & such out. They aren't made for that. The window should have been shut & locked with a something obscuring it. Better yet teach kids to stay away from them period! Who are the parents know a days? Who teaches these kids what they can & can not do? We are supposed to be. But parents have gotten lazy & allow a free for all in their homes. uhg that ticks me to no end & then blame everyone else for their problems.
I'm not just referring to this case its parents & kids in general now a days.
safety mom fan

Kalamazoo, MI

#133 Apr 14, 2009
Safety Mom wrote:
It does not take watching your kids' every move 24/7. But it does take looking VERY carefully at the environment when you leave them unattended for a few minutes. We had baby gates on the stairs, a woodstove corral, electric plug caps, baby locks on the cupboards, etc. Household hazards can be controlled - and no, you cannot predict every one of them. But you sure can predict the ones that have already happened. Our daughter used to love to climb, and the first time she fell from a high stool in our home my husband locked it in the furnace room until she was older.
In the case of the first child in this family, the fall from the window caused a serious brain bleed. So this sounds like a preventable tragedy, and the parents' priority should have been window safety after the first accident in their family. If we, the community don't judge, then who the heck keeps the kids safe? The state law for neglect says that the "community standard" shall be observed. That's us, folks.
Now, if I were the family I would not read messages from strangers about my tragedy. But as a member of this community, I sure want people to pay attention and learn something so other kids can live.
This, by far, is one of the most intelligent posts I've seen in a while. Great words!!

Prayers to the family; but, I too, hope this is NOT their medium of support.
really_wtf

Kalamazoo, MI

#134 Apr 14, 2009
Liver mom in TN wrote:
For one, you judgemental people should shut up! Any mother who can get their kid through a liver transplant AND several heart opperations and MANY hospital stays..in my book she is a great mother! I have known this family for almost 4 years and I KNOW she is a great mom and loves her kids. Some things are just accidents. Yes, it's sad that this happened 2 times, but I bet they never thought it was possible. No mother wants to put their child in danger after fighthing to save their kids life for so long. So SHUT UP and go pray for his family. I will miss you Trenton...I'm praying Crystal.
Yes, this is truly a horrible situation. I would say the parents overcame tremendous obstacles with raising this very ill child. As another poster wrote, 10 prescriptions a day – unpronounceable names, etc…

With that; however, isn’t “fixing the window issue” a no-brainer at this point compared to raising this child through his illnesses?

I’m sorry - it just doesn’t make sense.
whoa

Sparta, MI

#135 Apr 15, 2009
Chris wrote:
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Arguing is not going to solve anything. Obviously the family is on this site and reading the comments. We should all use some tact and pray nothing like this happens to us.
I know the family through work and they are devastated at this time. Nothing will take away the guilt, heartache, and emptiness that the loss of Trenton has resulted in. The grief alone is enough to push anyone over the edge, and to come to a site like this where people are pointing fingers and criticizing... it just does not seem right.
Please, have some respect for those in the grieving process.
You can "pray" all you want for a "bad" situation. I have found in my 50 years that actually "doing" something is far more effective than "prayer".
whoa

Sparta, MI

#136 Apr 15, 2009
A one-year-old is probably too young to understand depth perception, potential injury from a far fall to a hard surface.

A four-year-old should easily know the consequences and, yes, even Think about them.

It's one of the lessons parents can teach. Without being cruel, it's pretty easy to "teach" how certain activities can "hurt" and be injurious. The playground is a good place to start. Teach children that "falling" from a certain height "hurts". Two feet fall, okay, Five foot fall, ouch, seven foot fall, bet they don't even try it. Ten feet, 20 feet, give 'em an awful fright. Kids have to be TAUGHT to think.

Not saying this is full prevention but it could be a useful tool in raising smarter kids.
bunnee

Hudsonville, MI

#137 Apr 15, 2009
whoa wrote:
A four-year-old should easily know the consequences and, yes, even Think about them.
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You are incorrect; 4 year olds are little people with their feet in motion and their brains a few steps behind....That is why they're FOUR; They need constant reminders; ADULTS on the other hand, should recognize such dangers as a low window and have something in front of them to block them from running, skipping along, wrestling, etc children
lazybones

United States

#138 Apr 15, 2009
little-me wrote:
These people had a child fall through this same window and die a few years back?!?
And they didn't fix the window correctly?!?
And they let another child play up there without supervision?!?
NO COMMENT.
If u would read more of the story, the first child survived. This time a life was lost.

Since: Jan 09

Hersey, Michigan

#139 Apr 15, 2009
Isn't there a building code that requires tempered glass in windows that are a certain distance from the floor? Of course if the window was open with or without a screen it wouldn't make much difference. I learned my lesson with a patio door screen when my dog went through it like it wasn't even there when she spotted a squirrel intruding into her territory.
feeling

Caledonia, MI

#140 Apr 15, 2009
I agree that it is a tragedy .Poor Trenton may he rest in peace :( Myself I would have nailed, screwed, caulked that %$#! window shut when I moved in,or blocked it off some how Because a screen is not going to keep anything heavy from falling through it.And who ever built that place was an idiot . Who puts a slider on a second floor with a paved driveway below? I am very sorry for the loss of such a beautiful little man. Breaks my heart, I hope they all find the strength to get through these hard times.
My prayers are with them all.
concerned

United States

#141 Apr 15, 2009
You can "pray" all you want for a "bad" situation. I have found in my 50 years that actually "doing" something is far more effective than "prayer".
Whoa, It's obvious that you are not a christian! As I pray for the LaMadline family, I will also pray that you find Jesus! Without prayer and Jesus there is no hope.
Monday

Caledonia, MI

#142 Apr 15, 2009
walker wrote:
Ever heard of a screen? Yes it was preventable...and sad!
A screen would not stop a child from falling out, the screen would just break. The window needs bars or needs to be set to only open a tiny bit.
RealAmerican

Morley, MI

#143 Apr 15, 2009
They have a plastic piece out that snaps inside the window, So the window will not open all the way, There are all sorts of things they could have done.Apparently they picked the wrong way.
dahermitt

Brighton, MI

#144 Apr 15, 2009
First Degree Murder, plain and simple.

“Just Thinking”

Since: Nov 07

Three Rivers, MI

#145 Apr 15, 2009
concerned wrote:
You can "pray" all you want for a "bad" situation. I have found in my 50 years that actually "doing" something is far more effective than "prayer".
Whoa, It's obvious that you are not a christian! As I pray for the LaMadline family, I will also pray that you find Jesus! Without prayer and Jesus there is no hope.
Wow - you "Christians" are soooo cool and righteous. Pray and pray and pray. Does that work to get a paycheck too?

“Just Thinking”

Since: Nov 07

Three Rivers, MI

#146 Apr 15, 2009
bunnee wrote:
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You are incorrect; 4 year olds are little people with their feet in motion and their brains a few steps behind....That is why they're FOUR; They need constant reminders; ADULTS on the other hand, should recognize such dangers as a low window and have something in front of them to block them from running, skipping along, wrestling, etc children
It looks to me like you missed the part of that person's post. He/she wasn't saying parents had no responsibilities. It reads to me like parents should progressively "teach" things to children. And yes, four year olds run around fast and furious and they are capable of slowing down and thinking too - if they are taught skills.

“Just Thinking”

Since: Nov 07

Three Rivers, MI

#147 Apr 15, 2009
Oh, and the "reason" they are "four" is simply that it is their AGE. They are not "four" BECAUSE their feet are in motion. They are four because that's how old they are. duurhh

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