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Really

Wyoming, MI

#83 Nov 9, 2013
Oneal wrote:
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The Party of Hypocrisy. What more needs said?
$600 million plus to create a health insurance exchange website ... and they still can't get it to function effectively?
Come on ... this administration is either intentionally being dishonest, or they're even more inept than conservatives predicted.
Thus far unwilling to reveal HumptyCare figures ... why?
They're either being intentionally dishonest or they're incapable of handling an administrative function a temp could handle at any large company.
This administration is totally inept and arrogant enough to think the American people are not paying attention. Other than the lunatics here, the Democrats that want to keep their jobs are truly concerned about the fallout from Obamacare and Obama's arrogance. As for the Humptycare figures, I predict those figures won't be fully released until after the midterms because they want so badly to take back the House and keep the Senate. Obama is a lame duck president and has been this entire 2nd term and unlike the lunatic here, most know that it is not just the 10% that are Tea Party members that are creating the issues. His own Democratic, do nothing, Senators are creating their own set of issues. And then throw Queen Nancy in the mix with some of her foolish statements and the progressives have good reason to be concerned.
Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#84 Nov 9, 2013
Bob wrote:
Mission Accomplished !!!
The biggest lie told by a president since Tricky Dick declared "I Am Not A Crook"!
Imagine how much better we'd all be if "We Got Him" had replaced that stupid banner.
LOL ... Obama and his progressive string-pullers make Nixon look like a penny-stealer in comparison and you know it.

That "stupid banner" only twisted the diapers of little tantrum-throwing, America-hating progressives like yourself and the terrorist nations we have little chance of befriending, despite President Handshake's stupid and naive campaign promises of peace and harmony - before he started flinging drone missiles all over the Middle East and bragging about, "how good I am a killin' folks", that is!

Stupid or dishonest ... Obama has only degraded America, which your progressive ilk considers, "Mission Accomplished".
Iseestupidpeople

Grand Rapids, MI

#85 Nov 9, 2013
Oneal wrote:
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I see him trotting off to his socialist friends, receiving backslaps and high-fives for having implemented one of the key legs to the progressive stool of "fundamentally transforming" America into a weaker, more government-dependent nation.
Obama was simply a tool for a very organized progressive movement who's goal is destroying capitalism and "exceptionalism" in America, and ultimately lowering Western Civilization to third world status. You have but to follow the people Barry Soetoro surround himself with and who influenced his life - marxists, socialists, anti-colonialists, anti-Americans.
If he succeeds in nothing more than temporarily stinting America's energy-production abilities, demonizing business owners, implanting Common Core into our kids' public education curriculum, and ramming government-run health care down Americans' throats, Obama can strut away into history having served his anti-American cause.
Mission Accomplished
For those of you who continually mention the word socialism, watch this video.

http://www.joeydevilla.com/2013/03/04/viral-v...

If you believe for one minute we are trending towards a socialist government then you have no clue what socialism means. We are so far from being a socialist country that it's absolutely ridiculous to even bring the word up. We are a capitalist nation to the very core. Most of you spouting off about socialism aren't even in the top ten percent! If you look at the charts in the video and compare them to where they were just 50 years ago---AND come to the conclusion that those charts represent a healthy U.S. economy then you need to go back to high school and take an economics course.

"Fundamentally Transforming" us into a weaker, more government dependant nation? Obama is doing that? You're an idiot. Corporations and the top 10% are making us a weaker nation and more dependant on government. And before someone starts murmuring about class warfare or jealousy---quit repeating the lines you are taught by the super rich because it is they who are waging war on the middle and lower classes. Quit doing their dirty work and do some research for yourself. Understand that anyone who believes that the wealth distribution in this country is skewed does not automatically make them a socialist.
Really

Wyoming, MI

#86 Nov 9, 2013
Iseestupidpeople wrote:
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For those of you who continually mention the word socialism, watch this video.
http://www.joeydevilla.com/2013/03/04/viral-v...
If you believe for one minute we are trending towards a socialist government then you have no clue what socialism means. We are so far from being a socialist country that it's absolutely ridiculous to even bring the word up. We are a capitalist nation to the very core. Most of you spouting off about socialism aren't even in the top ten percent! If you look at the charts in the video and compare them to where they were just 50 years ago---AND come to the conclusion that those charts represent a healthy U.S. economy then you need to go back to high school and take an economics course.
"Fundamentally Transforming" us into a weaker, more government dependant nation? Obama is doing that? You're an idiot. Corporations and the top 10% are making us a weaker nation and more dependant on government. And before someone starts murmuring about class warfare or jealousy---quit repeating the lines you are taught by the super rich because it is they who are waging war on the middle and lower classes. Quit doing their dirty work and do some research for yourself. Understand that anyone who believes that the wealth distribution in this country is skewed does not automatically make them a socialist.
Understanding that the wealth distribution in this country is skewed doesn't make you smart. My grandsons saw that in the 3rd and 4th grades already. Neither does blaming the wealthy and the business owners in this country make you smart. What it makes you is a shill for the elitists in this country who have succeeded in dividing this country so deeply we may never recover. And don't for one second think I am blaming only one side. There are elitists on both sides of the aisle and they are laughing all the way to the bank. The only way to "cure" what ails this country is for all its citizens to come together as one and say "Enough of your divisive tactics. You won't do your jobs and WE pay our salaries, YOU ARE FIRED!" Of course, that would require people like you who run around calling everyone else who doesn't agree with you stupid to change your ways also. Think you can do that? If not, you are part of the problem, not part of the solution.
Iseestupidpeople

Grand Rapids, MI

#87 Nov 9, 2013
Really wrote:
<quoted text>Understanding that the wealth distribution in this country is skewed doesn't make you smart. My grandsons saw that in the 3rd and 4th grades already. Neither does blaming the wealthy and the business owners in this country make you smart. What it makes you is a shill for the elitists in this country who have succeeded in dividing this country so deeply we may never recover. And don't for one second think I am blaming only one side. There are elitists on both sides of the aisle and they are laughing all the way to the bank. The only way to "cure" what ails this country is for all its citizens to come together as one and say "Enough of your divisive tactics. You won't do your jobs and WE pay our salaries, YOU ARE FIRED!" Of course, that would require people like you who run around calling everyone else who doesn't agree with you stupid to change your ways also. Think you can do that? If not, you are part of the problem, not part of the solution.
If you think this country is heading towards socialism then you are stupid. Period. This country is run and controlled by big business. The laws benefit them and D.C. exists for them. To think that, in the big picture, Obama is any different than GW Bush or Romney or anyone else that might hold office in the future is either kidding themselves or a complete idiot. All one has to do is see how things have changed in the last 40-50 years when it comes to the distribution of wealth to understand that it's the wealthy and the corporations that have completely screwed the working class and middle class and robbed them of a chance to get their piece of the pie. If you do not understand this or agree then yes, you are stupid.
Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#88 Nov 9, 2013
Iseestupidpeople wrote:
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For those of you who continually mention the word socialism, watch this video.
http://www.joeydevilla.com/2013/03/04/viral-v...
If you believe for one minute we are trending towards a socialist government then you have no clue what socialism means. We are so far from being a socialist country that it's absolutely ridiculous to even bring the word up. We are a capitalist nation to the very core. Most of you spouting off about socialism aren't even in the top ten percent! If you look at the charts in the video and compare them to where they were just 50 years ago---AND come to the conclusion that those charts represent a healthy U.S. economy then you need to go back to high school and take an economics course.
"Fundamentally Transforming" us into a weaker, more government dependant nation? Obama is doing that? You're an idiot. Corporations and the top 10% are making us a weaker nation and more dependant on government. And before someone starts murmuring about class warfare or jealousy---quit repeating the lines you are taught by the super rich because it is they who are waging war on the middle and lower classes. Quit doing their dirty work and do some research for yourself. Understand that anyone who believes that the wealth distribution in this country is skewed does not automatically make them a socialist.
Well, you came on here all fluffed up with insults and disrespect from the start, wielding a link to some anti-corporate website, then demanded that we not call it what is it - class envy rhetoric.

Not much to debate with you if you start off telling people how to think and what to say.
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#89 Nov 9, 2013
Oneal wrote:
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Well, you came on here all fluffed up with insults and disrespect from the start, wielding a link to some anti-corporate website, then demanded that we not call it what is it - class envy rhetoric.
Not much to debate with you if you start off telling people how to think and what to say.
Seeing as how the conservatives think that corporations are people too......

Wouldn't this be another case of FAUX Racism?
Iseestupidpeople

United States

#90 Nov 9, 2013
Oneal wrote:
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Well, you came on here all fluffed up with insults and disrespect from the start, wielding a link to some anti-corporate website, then demanded that we not call it what is it - class envy rhetoric.
Not much to debate with you if you start off telling people how to think and what to say.
Are you saying the wealth isn't divided up as the charts say? Are they wrong?

“Where I came from”

Since: Jan 09

the universe

#91 Nov 9, 2013
Oneal wrote:
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I see him trotting off to his socialist friends, receiving backslaps and high-fives for having implemented one of the key legs to the progressive stool of "fundamentally transforming" America into a weaker, more government-dependent nation.
Obama was simply a tool for a very organized progressive movement who's goal is destroying capitalism and "exceptionalism" in America, and ultimately lowering Western Civilization to third world status. You have but to follow the people Barry Soetoro surround himself with and who influenced his life - marxists, socialists, anti-colonialists, anti-Americans.
If he succeeds in nothing more than temporarily stinting America's energy-production abilities, demonizing business owners, implanting Common Core into our kids' public education curriculum, and ramming government-run health care down Americans' throats, Obama can strut away into history having served his anti-American cause.
Mission Accomplished
May be true but he blew it in their eyes. Its okay though because there is a change coming where clowns like BHO democrats and republicans will become irrelevant, dare I say a new age is approaching, so either get on the train or be left in the dust...
Really

Wyoming, MI

#92 Nov 9, 2013
Iseestupidpeople wrote:
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If you think this country is heading towards socialism then you are stupid. Period. This country is run and controlled by big business. The laws benefit them and D.C. exists for them. To think that, in the big picture, Obama is any different than GW Bush or Romney or anyone else that might hold office in the future is either kidding themselves or a complete idiot. All one has to do is see how things have changed in the last 40-50 years when it comes to the distribution of wealth to understand that it's the wealthy and the corporations that have completely screwed the working class and middle class and robbed them of a chance to get their piece of the pie. If you do not understand this or agree then yes, you are stupid.
And you made my point, you are part of the problem. Thanks for making that so plain. Come back and talk when you want to be a part of the solution. Here's a hint for you: those who want to be a part of a solution do NOT call those who disagree with them stupid or any bright little name you could come up with. Those who want to be a part of the solution will listen to all comers and propose other ideas and then compromise. I realize that is not something the current group in DC know how to do, but that does not mean that we, as citizens AND their employers, can't teach them to do. And as all children do, they will learn by example.

“Where I came from”

Since: Jan 09

the universe

#93 Nov 9, 2013
Guess who took a break to play golf while thousands lose their insurance what an azz, but he is sorry.
Sassy

Byron Center, MI

#94 Nov 9, 2013
Shoeless Eluder wrote:
Guess who took a break to play golf while thousands lose their insurance what an azz, but he is sorry.
I know and I'm sorry. I didn't know that I was voting for an American version of the Antichrist last November. Obama should be run out of office tomorrow and his name struck from all future namesake buildings, libraries and monuments. He is political scum personified.

“Where I came from”

Since: Jan 09

the universe

#95 Nov 10, 2013
Everyone should go to youtube and listen to BHOs speeches on healthcare and then you will realize that this was and is the biggest pile of BS ever dished out by a president. I really like the one where he says you will be able to get insurance for less than $100.00 a month.

Since: Oct 12

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#96 Nov 10, 2013
Oneal wrote:
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Well, you came on here all fluffed up with insults and disrespect from the start.........telling people how to think and what to say?
...Yeah, don't they know....THAT IS WHAT YOU AND YOUR LITTLE BUDDIES ARE HERE FOR???
Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#97 Nov 10, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
<quoted text>...Yeah, don't they know....THAT IS WHAT YOU AND YOUR LITTLE BUDDIES ARE HERE FOR???
Playing the whiny victim again, Go Blue?

At least "I See Stupid People" - despite a name that right off the bat doesn't bode well for an open-minded discussion - has an opinion that he/she provides research and evidence to back up. I'm not sure charts showing wealth distribution is enough to convince people the progressives aren't trying to implement socialism into America, especially consider Obama's own history and written words, but research is a start, and I'd like to hear more of his/her definition of what the progressives are trying transform America into.

As for you, you've more than once come on here claiming there are better sites for serious discussions,(likely "serious" to you just means liberals outnumber conservatives) yet you'd be hard-pressed to show me a post that you've contributed an intelligent, fact-based comment -ever.
Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#98 Nov 10, 2013
Iseestupidpeople wrote:
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Are you saying the wealth isn't divided up as the charts say? Are they wrong?
No. I'm not sure, to be honest. I'm definitely not saying there isn't a divide in wealth. I'm just not sure it proves the progressives aren't trying to implement a socialist transformation in America. Capitalism certainly creates the opportunity to divide wealth, but so too does socialism.

I'm listening though.
bilbo baggins

Yuma, AZ

#99 Nov 10, 2013
Obama is a disaster. He started out with a modest income and now has a 20+ million dollar house in Hawaii. And our country is so far in debt we will never get out of the mess he has made.

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