Obama's Legacy: Stupid Or Just Dishonest?

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Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#1 Nov 2, 2013
http://townhall.com/columnists/johnhawkins/20...

"I wouldn’t be surprised if President Obama learned Osama bin Laden had been killed when he saw himself announce it on television." -- Jon Stewart

When do you start to ask, "Is this guy stupid or just dishonest?" Given that Barack Obama seems to know so little about what's going on in his administration that it's starting to resemble a "Hogan's Heroes", maybe the answer is "both."

1) Obama didn't know we were spying on German Chancellor Angela Merkel for five years.
The White House cut off some monitoring programs after learning of them, including the one tracking Ms. Merkel and some other world leaders, a senior U.S. official said. Other programs have been slated for termination but haven’t been phased out completely yet, officials said.
The account suggests President Barack Obama went nearly five years without knowing his own spies were bugging the phones of world leaders. Officials said the NSA has so many eavesdropping operations under way that it wouldn’t have been practical to brief him on all of them.

2) Obama didn't know that his administration was sending guns to Mexican drug cartels via Fast and Furious.
In the March 22 interview, Obama said:“There have been problems, you know. I heard on the news about this story that fast and furious, where allegedly guns were being run into Mexico and ATF knew about it but didn't apprehend those who had sent it. Eric Holder has -- the attorney general has been very clear that he knew nothing about this. We had assigned an IG, inspector general, to investigate it.”

3) Obama didn't know the DOJ seized the AP's phone records.
(Press Secretary) Carney later added about the scandal, "We don't have any independent knowledge ...[Obama] found out about the news reports yesterday on the road."

4) Obama didn't know the IRS was targeting Tea Party groups.
During a press conference with British Prime Minister David Cameron on Monday, President Obama was asked about the IRS scandal. He responded,”I first learned about it from the same news reports that I think most people learned about this. I think it was on Friday.”

5) Obama didn't know the Healthcare.gov website was going to fail.
In an exclusive interview with Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta asked when the President first learned about the considerable issues with the Obamacare website.
Sebelius responded that it was in "the first couple of days" after the site went live October 1.
"But not before that?" Gupta followed up.
To which Sebelius replied, "No, sir."

"President" Obama's legacy will be that of corruption, lies, divisiveness, scandal and Obamacare - And it's looking more and more like his only explanation will be, "I didn't know".

LOL
Really

Wyoming, MI

#2 Nov 2, 2013
Oneal wrote:
http://townhall.com/columnists /johnhawkins/2013/11/02/5-thin gs-the-obama-administration-ha d-no-idea-the-obama-administra tion-was-doing-n1734940
"I wouldn’t be surprised if President Obama learned Osama bin Laden had been killed when he saw himself announce it on television." -- Jon Stewart
When do you start to ask, "Is this guy stupid or just dishonest?" Given that Barack Obama seems to know so little about what's going on in his administration that it's starting to resemble a "Hogan's Heroes", maybe the answer is "both."
1) Obama didn't know we were spying on German Chancellor Angela Merkel for five years.
The White House cut off some monitoring programs after learning of them, including the one tracking Ms. Merkel and some other world leaders, a senior U.S. official said. Other programs have been slated for termination but haven’t been phased out completely yet, officials said.
The account suggests President Barack Obama went nearly five years without knowing his own spies were bugging the phones of world leaders. Officials said the NSA has so many eavesdropping operations under way that it wouldn’t have been practical to brief him on all of them.
2) Obama didn't know that his administration was sending guns to Mexican drug cartels via Fast and Furious.
In the March 22 interview, Obama said:“There have been problems, you know. I heard on the news about this story that fast and furious, where allegedly guns were being run into Mexico and ATF knew about it but didn't apprehend those who had sent it. Eric Holder has -- the attorney general has been very clear that he knew nothing about this. We had assigned an IG, inspector general, to investigate it.”
3) Obama didn't know the DOJ seized the AP's phone records.
(Press Secretary) Carney later added about the scandal, "We don't have any independent knowledge ...[Obama] found out about the news reports yesterday on the road."
4) Obama didn't know the IRS was targeting Tea Party groups.
During a press conference with British Prime Minister David Cameron on Monday, President Obama was asked about the IRS scandal. He responded,”I first learned about it from the same news reports that I think most people learned about this. I think it was on Friday.”
5) Obama didn't know the Healthcare.gov website was going to fail.
In an exclusive interview with Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta asked when the President first learned about the considerable issues with the Obamacare website.
Sebelius responded that it was in "the first couple of days" after the site went live October 1.
"But not before that?" Gupta followed up.
To which Sebelius replied, "No, sir."
"President" Obama's legacy will be that of corruption, lies, divisiveness, scandal and Obamacare - And it's looking more and more like his only explanation will be, "I didn't know".
LOL
The only thing Obama "works hard" at is establishing plausible deniability. Thus, "I didn't know" or "I found out the same way the rest of America found out". And the progressives think THIS is leadership? No wonder they hate business since good business leaders don't act this way!
Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#3 Nov 2, 2013
Really wrote:
<quoted text>The only thing Obama "works hard" at is establishing plausible deniability. Thus, "I didn't know" or "I found out the same way the rest of America found out". And the progressives think THIS is leadership? No wonder they hate business since good business leaders don't act this way!
It's why I will refer to Obama as "President" Obama. He's president by title only, a convenient figurehead for the progressive movement to gin up a group of voters who normally wouldn't give a damn about politics. True leaders stand by their words and actions, not run away and point fingers, or deny knowledge and accountability.

Hillary, the next progressive figurehead is currently doing her best progressive coward sprint, running away from Obama's legacy as fast as her droopy white kankles can take her! She won't be able to run from her own lack of leadership example, Benghazi, and her "what does it matter" inhumane legacy for long.

Approval polls already show both are in a downward spiral. The progressive vote-harvesting machine is working overtime trying to figure out the next way to pin blame on the other side and deflect accountability away form their party of cowards.
Snoopy

Grand Rapids, MI

#4 Nov 2, 2013
Oneal wrote:
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It's why I will refer to Obama as "President" Obama. He's president by title only, a convenient figurehead for the progressive movement to gin up a group of voters who normally wouldn't give a damn about politics. True leaders stand by their words and actions, not run away and point fingers, or deny knowledge and accountability.
Hillary, the next progressive figurehead is currently doing her best progressive coward sprint, running away from Obama's legacy as fast as her droopy white kankles can take her! She won't be able to run from her own lack of leadership example, Benghazi, and her "what does it matter" inhumane legacy for long.
Approval polls already show both are in a downward spiral. The progressive vote-harvesting machine is working overtime trying to figure out the next way to pin blame on the other side and deflect accountability away form their party of cowards.
Still crying that your party can't win a national election? I can't wait to see you guys stroke out when Hillary moves into the White House in January 2017. NEXT! LOL!
Really

Wyoming, MI

#5 Nov 2, 2013
Snoopy wrote:
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Still crying that your party can't win a national election? I can't wait to see you guys stroke out when Hillary moves into the White House in January 2017. NEXT! LOL!
Ummmm, the stroking out will be on the part of the progressives/Dems when they are blocked out of the WH for the next 20-30 years.

Since: Mar 09

Grandville, MI

#6 Nov 2, 2013
Snoopy wrote:
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Still crying that your party can't win a national election? I can't wait to see you guys stroke out when Hillary moves into the White House in January 2017. NEXT! LOL!
Benghazi!
Dr X

Byron Center, MI

#7 Nov 2, 2013
Snoopy wrote:
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Still crying that your party can't win a national election? I can't wait to see you guys stroke out when Hillary moves into the White House in January 2017. NEXT! LOL!
The drugs you are taking are causing delusions. You shouldn't use drugs.
Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#8 Nov 3, 2013
Dr X wrote:
<quoted text>The drugs you are taking are causing delusions. You shouldn't use drugs.
There's really nothing more the anti-American humpty herd can do but troll, HIDE and wait until their socialist sites come up with some clever talking points over the weekend, at which time they'll all come roaring back, parroting the same canned message (laced with the usual assortment of predictable vulgarities no doubt), as if they thought of it themselves.

LOL

Now that the democrats are taking some long-overdue and much-deserved heat over their horrible legislation and non-functional $600 million plus "humpty Dumpty" website, you can expect them to start playing the victims again, demanding that we all just get along. The democrats do this every time they get themselves in trouble.

Obama has already trolled out a hypocritical, and predictably insulting, demand for the "manufactured crises" to end so we can "get to work" - as if all this anger over the waste and ineptitude of his administration somehow has nothing to do with him and he's completely innocent of manufacturing "crises".

I contend Obama, and more pointedly his anti-American progressive radical handlers, are far from stupid. I think they're carrying out their plan, and this Obamacare debacle is just part of it. They first have to destroy before they can rebuild in the form of their choosing.

The only stupidity going on is the American voters who are so ill-educated and easily deceived that they continue to support these radical anti-American progressives.
Crazy Like a Fox

Grand Rapids, MI

#10 Nov 3, 2013
Oneal wrote:
<quoted text>
There's really nothing more the anti-American humpty herd can do but troll, HIDE and wait until their socialist sites come up with some clever talking points over the weekend, at which time they'll all come roaring back, parroting the same canned message (laced with the usual assortment of predictable vulgarities no doubt), as if they thought of it themselves.
LOL
Now that the democrats are taking some long-overdue and much-deserved heat over their horrible legislation and non-functional $600 million plus "humpty Dumpty" website, you can expect them to start playing the victims again, demanding that we all just get along. The democrats do this every time they get themselves in trouble.
Obama has already trolled out a hypocritical, and predictably insulting, demand for the "manufactured crises" to end so we can "get to work" - as if all this anger over the waste and ineptitude of his administration somehow has nothing to do with him and he's completely innocent of manufacturing "crises".
I contend Obama, and more pointedly his anti-American progressive radical handlers, are far from stupid. I think they're carrying out their plan, and this Obamacare debacle is just part of it. They first have to destroy before they can rebuild in the form of their choosing.
The only stupidity going on is the American voters who are so ill-educated and easily deceived that they continue to support these radical anti-American progressives.
These radical anti American voters elected this guy twice. Maybe it's you who is anti American. Your America is gone and your party is tearing itself apart, unable to accept the changes that have taken place. Just because most Americans disagree with what you and your party stands for doesn't mean most Americans hate this country. My advice to republicans would be to grow up and act like adults. Accept the fact that most Americans don't consider themselves to be republicans and you don't represent the majority in any sense of the word. You aren't more right than any other group of Americans and your beliefs don't make you anymore patriotic than the next guy.
Who

Wyoming, MI

#11 Nov 3, 2013
He's just doing what all blacks do when they get caught - LIE and PLAY STUPID.

You see this on COPS all the time. Any time some black person gets busted, the first words out of their mouths is usually "What I did?".

Here's usually the exchange:

Black: "What I did?"

Cop: "We arrested you for robbing a liquor store and carrying an unlawful firearm", the officer the does the standard search which usually reveals drug paraphenalia?

Black: "Dat ain't mine, I don't know nuttin bout dat stuff"

Cop: "How did it get into your pocket then"

Black: "I don't know, but it ain't mine"

Cop: "So someone else put this stuff in your pocket?"

Black: "Must be, cuz dat ain't mine."

See the pattern here?

ALL blacks lie and steal, they can't help themselves. Obastard just has the opportunity to LIE TO and STEAL FROM the taxpayers.

He's no different than the blacks on the street.

Wake up people.
Crazy Like a Fox

Grand Rapids, MI

#12 Nov 3, 2013
Who wrote:
He's just doing what all blacks do when they get caught - LIE and PLAY STUPID.
You see this on COPS all the time. Any time some black person gets busted, the first words out of their mouths is usually "What I did?".
Here's usually the exchange:
Black: "What I did?"
Cop: "We arrested you for robbing a liquor store and carrying an unlawful firearm", the officer the does the standard search which usually reveals drug paraphenalia?
Black: "Dat ain't mine, I don't know nuttin bout dat stuff"
Cop: "How did it get into your pocket then"
Black: "I don't know, but it ain't mine"
Cop: "So someone else put this stuff in your pocket?"
Black: "Must be, cuz dat ain't mine."
See the pattern here?
ALL blacks lie and steal, they can't help themselves. Obastard just has the opportunity to LIE TO and STEAL FROM the taxpayers.
He's no different than the blacks on the street.
Wake up people.
Thanks for making my point loud and clear!
Who

Wyoming, MI

#13 Nov 3, 2013
Crazy Like a Fox wrote:
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Thanks for making my point loud and clear!
And what point would that be EXACTLY?
Dr X

Byron Center, MI

#14 Nov 3, 2013
Oneal wrote:
<quoted text>
There's really nothing more the anti-American humpty herd can do but troll, HIDE and wait until their socialist sites come up with some clever talking points over the weekend, at which time they'll all come roaring back, parroting the same canned message (laced with the usual assortment of predictable vulgarities no doubt), as if they thought of it themselves.
LOL
Now that the democrats are taking some long-overdue and much-deserved heat over their horrible legislation and non-functional $600 million plus "humpty Dumpty" website, you can expect them to start playing the victims again, demanding that we all just get along. The democrats do this every time they get themselves in trouble.
Obama has already trolled out a hypocritical, and predictably insulting, demand for the "manufactured crises" to end so we can "get to work" - as if all this anger over the waste and ineptitude of his administration somehow has nothing to do with him and he's completely innocent of manufacturing "crises".
I contend Obama, and more pointedly his anti-American progressive radical handlers, are far from stupid. I think they're carrying out their plan, and this Obamacare debacle is just part of it. They first have to destroy before they can rebuild in the form of their choosing.
The only stupidity going on is the American voters who are so ill-educated and easily deceived that they continue to support these radical anti-American progressives.
Absolutely. I thought I heard crickets in here in place of the normal progressive, left-wing banter. Good. As far as Obama and Obamacare go, we know he's a socialist scumbag and that the master plan is single-payer. I've been saying that since 2010. To the leftist Leninist I'd say this, better be careful when kicking a hornets nest. There is ZERO way they will EVER implement a single-payer system in this country without a violent revolution. One phone call and you'd have 20 million armed individuals heading to DC toting industrial sized reels of rope. As for the moronic American voters who helped bring this about, you can try and show them the error of their ways in the hope that they would see the light somehow, but there are so many publicly-educated (misnomer on the word educated) sheep out there that this task may well prove to be impossible.
setrlvr

Lake Odessa, MI

#15 Nov 3, 2013
Crazy Like a Fox wrote:
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These radical anti American voters elected this guy twice. Maybe it's you who is anti American. Your America is gone and your party is tearing itself apart, unable to accept the changes that have taken place. Just because most Americans disagree with what you and your party stands for doesn't mean most Americans hate this country. My advice to republicans would be to grow up and act like adults. Accept the fact that most Americans don't consider themselves to be republicans and you don't represent the majority in any sense of the word. You aren't more right than any other group of Americans and your beliefs don't make you anymore patriotic than the next guy.
You are crazy as you moniker states. Your dumb advice is well...dumb. The republicans have been right all along and you feel stupid. I wish we could rub your nose in it, but its probably sniffing the dirt looking for a truffle.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#16 Nov 3, 2013
You won't be rubbing anyone's nose in anything except your own, dumb ass. You'll look fine in brown.
setrlvr wrote:
<quoted text>
You are crazy as you moniker states. Your dumb advice is well...dumb. The republicans have been right all along and you feel stupid. I wish we could rub your nose in it, but its probably sniffing the dirt looking for a truffle.
setrlvr

Lake Odessa, MI

#17 Nov 3, 2013
pipedream wrote:
You won't be rubbing anyone's nose in anything except your own, dumb ass. You'll look fine in brown.
<quoted text>
Dumb response as always. If you're jumping on a bandwagon at least bring an instrument.
Who

Wyoming, MI

#18 Nov 3, 2013
Didn't think you had a real point crazy like a liberal.

Well you do... but your hair covers it.
IHVH

Byron Center, MI

#19 Nov 3, 2013
In naam van God I bevel de duivels om op Barrack Hussein Obama te dalen en hem terug te keren aan de Aarde. Beperk hem in steen zodat hij een andere leugen kan nooit uiten om mensheid te bedriegen.
Oneal

Grand Rapids, MI

#20 Nov 4, 2013
Crazy Like a Fox wrote:
<quoted text>
These radical anti American voters elected this guy twice. Maybe it's you who is anti American. Your America is gone and your party is tearing itself apart, unable to accept the changes that have taken place. Just because most Americans disagree with what you and your party stands for doesn't mean most Americans hate this country. My advice to republicans would be to grow up and act like adults. Accept the fact that most Americans don't consider themselves to be republicans and you don't represent the majority in any sense of the word. You aren't more right than any other group of Americans and your beliefs don't make you anymore patriotic than the next guy.
Yea, we've all heard the "we won, you lost" argument, Crazy. It's a common chant by those who have nothing intelligent to say. There was plenty of that going on well before Mr Hope & Change brought a whole new group of low-info voters into the picture, so you're not exactly breaking new ground by acting like these elections are high school football games and you're on the winning team.

You may not know this, because you probably only started following politics since a black guy got nominated, but the American people also elected Republican George W Bush to two terms as well, despite a great deal of diaper-filling by democrats. So all that these two term presidencies really prove is the pendulum just keeps swinging. It's doubtful either party's philosophies represent what you ignorantly consider "the majority".

“Where I came from”

Since: Jan 09

the universe

#21 Nov 4, 2013
Bho had the potential to be a great president but his ideology got the best of him and he cant stop now so he will run this train into a wall instead of putting on the brakes and saying he made a mistake.

Now we have to prepare for the false crisis of climate change. I see the Miami Dolphins are still playing football they keep building hotels and refugees are still flocking to southern FL and Key WEst is still there.

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