Our Apologies

[SHE HAS A GAY SON]

Phillips Family wrote:

Read the Bible. Not just the parts that support your lifestyle. God loves us all and sent his son, Jesus, to cover all of our sins. Homosexuality is wrong and we firmly support any polotician who is brave enough to speak the truth. God created Adam and Eve, NOT Adam and Steve!

So why did he create SALLY's GAY SON?

[person in OK]

Lesbian in OKC wrote:

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How am I supposed to interpret her saying that homosexuality is a bigger threat to this nation than terrorism or Islam, that homosexuality is like cancer, etc. as anything other than hate? Tell me where the love and compassion are in those statements because I'm not seeing it.

When a mother corrects her child by pointing out what is wrong, is she being hateful towards them? Of course not, she cares for them and wants to let them know what they are doing is wrong.

[Kern is an IDIOT]

Rep. Kern is a narrow-minded, bigoted idiot. If her comments would have been about blacks or another minority, she would have been crucified. But because she claims to understand the Bible and its message about homosexuality, she is being supported? What she fails to understand is that the bible is a book from thousands of years ago BEFORE science understood even how our blood cir culates in our bodiesmuch less how sexual orientation is developed from birth! With thousands of years of advancement, why should we rely on an old fairy tale book as a factual guide? That is stupid!

Come on, people, it is time to stop being backwoods hicks, put down the bible and pick up some scientific books. Grow a brain for God's sake. This is exactly why the rest of the U.S. think we are nothing but a bunch of dumb hicks.

[person in OK]

Dan wrote:

I'm sure many of the anti-gay Christians posting here believe that the Bible is the inerrant word of God. Did you know that the God of the Bible endorses genocide, including the murder of infants and children?
1 Samuel 15:2-3
"Thus saith the LORD of hosts ... go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass."
Either you are wrong about the Bible being the inerrant word of God, or else you are worshipping a God that advocates murder and genocide. Which is it? Personally, I would not worship such a God, even if I knew he existed.

The bible can be turned against itself when used out of context, which is exactly what you have done here. God is a just God, and he punishes those who sin against him. He did not out of the blue say, "go murder these infants." He was doing exactly what Kern was hoping that he will not do to America for our horribly sin-filled country.

[Now We Know]

person in OK wrote:

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When a mother corrects her child by pointing out what is wrong, is she being hateful towards them? Of course not, she cares for them and wants to let them know what they are doing is wrong.

This is not simply a mother correcting a child!! This is a state legislator condemming a segment of our society, as a result of their sexual orientation, to the realm of terrorists and a cancer to our society. Would a loving mother stoop to this type of degradation?? Hopefully not in my Bible!! And, as a mother, in fact, she and her pastor husband have exiled her eldest son from our state since he is in fact gay so as not to embarrass them! Now that's mother's love if I've ever seen it!!!

[Jean Becker]

Please someone tell me the answer to this simple question and shut me up.


I wish to tell you of my very best friend. John, he and his partner celebrated their 28th anniversary. John tends to the house, Jim works and supports their family one son now grown and married one daughter still single. John is the best cook in the world, I had such fun going to the zoo, art museums with them and my family. OOOO what a time our kids had together. Bet ya if I said it was John and Jane you all would be okay with it. Side tracking, anyways, back to my question..

Now I wish to tell you of a story of 19 terrorists hijacked 4 passenger airliners. The hijackers intentionally crashed two of the airliners into the World Trade Center, one plane into each tower Aside from the 19 hijackers, 2,974 people died as an immediate result of the attacks, not counting the after math, still not determined.
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Now for my question…. How can someone compare being gay to being a terrorist and say being gay is worse. I can not even fathom the shame I feel for those who dare to say what she is saying isn’t bashing, isn’t a hateful thing to say. Please explain to me why John, who has the biggest heart, sweetest disposition, is compared to being “worse then a terrorist”.

Don’t tell me she didn’t name names. She used a blanket term that covers ALL gays Just like Hitler with his blanket term in his desire to rid the world of all Jews. This is NO different. Please don’t say she has a right to have her opinion. I said it before… I don’t care what she believes, as she doesn’t care about my beliefs are. I do care what she is preaching and speaking AS A REPENSITIVE.

[Carl]

If she wants to use the Bible to justify her 'bigotedness' then two can play that game:

"Give me any plague, but the plague of the heart: and any wickedness, but the wickedness of a woman." (Eccles. 25:13)

"Of the woman came the beginning of sin, and through her we all die." (Eccles. 25:22)

"If she go not as thou wouldest have her, cut her off from thy flesh, and give her a bill of divorce, and let her go." (Eccles. 25: 26)

"The whoredom of a woman may be known in her haughty looks and eyelids. If thy daughter be shameless, keep her in straitly, lest she abuse herself through overmuch liberty." (Eccles. 26:9-10)

"A silent and loving woman is a gift of the Lord: and there is nothing so much worth as a mind well instructed. A shamefaced and faithful woman is a double grace, and her continent mind cannot be valued." (Eccles. 26:14-15)

"A shameless woman shall be counted as a dog; but she that is shamefaced will fear the Lord." (Eccles.26:25)

"For from garments cometh a moth, and from women wickedness. Better is the churlishness of a man than a courteous woman, a woman, I say, which bringeth shame and reproach." (Eccles. 42:13-14)

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1 Timothy 2
11-15
Let the woman learn in silence with all subjection. But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression. Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing.

Or maybe she should bear this in mind:

Galatians 3
28
There is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

NOTE: You can find anything you want in the Bible to justify your prejudices.(For all the ladies in this discussion, I apologize, since this is not directed or intended at you).

[Jason Durst]

person in OK wrote:

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When a mother corrects her child by pointing out what is wrong, is she being hateful towards them? Of course not, she cares for them and wants to let them know what they are doing is wrong.

It is different pointing something out that is wrong to one person but to say something to a room of people with entirely different views is different. Would you stand in front of a room and say what she said about gays or blacks, jews, handicapped, elderly, infertile, terminally-ill patients, homeless? There is a huge difference between teaching our children and trying to change the minds of grown adults!

[Kern is an IDIOT]

Sha also claimed that "not all religions are equal" meaning basically if you are not a Christians, presumably a Baptist type Christian, you are not entitled to equal rights and protection under the First Amendment. I guess that the First Amendment and the rest of the Constituion is a document written by Jesus Christ? Kern is a fool and needs to be removed from office for hate speech. She is not who I want representing the state.

We are NOT a Christian nation and never have been. The Constitution is NOT a Christian document and never has been. The Founders of our country were Deists, not Christians.... read history form soemwhere other than Mardels. Thank you

[Now We Know]

Jean Becker wrote:

Please someone tell me the answer to this simple question and shut me up.
I wish to tell you of my very best friend. John, he and his partner celebrated their 28th anniversary. John tends to the house, Jim works and supports their family one son now grown and married one daughter still single. John is the best cook in the world, I had such fun going to the zoo, art museums with them and my family. OOOO what a time our kids had together. Bet ya if I said it was John and Jane you all would be okay with it. Side tracking, anyways, back to my question..
Now I wish to tell you of a story of 19 terrorists hijacked 4 passenger airliners. The hijackers intentionally crashed two of the airliners into the World Trade Center, one plane into each tower Aside from the 19 hijackers, 2,974 people died as an immediate result of the attacks, not counting the after math, still not determined.
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Now for my question…. How can someone compare being gay to being a terrorist and say being gay is worse. I can not even fathom the shame I feel for those who dare to say what she is saying isn’t bashing, isn’t a hateful thing to say. Please explain to me why John, who has the biggest heart, sweetest disposition, is compared to being “worse then a terrorist”.
Don’t tell me she didn’t name names. She used a blanket term that covers ALL gays Just like Hitler with his blanket term in his desire to rid the world of all Jews. This is NO different. Please don’t say she has a right to have her opinion. I said it before… I don’t care what she believes, as she doesn’t care about my beliefs are. I do care what she is preaching and speaking AS A REPENSITIVE.

Please don't shut up........if the sane voices in the world simply stop being heard, we will be left with nothing except hopeless bigotry in our lives. Thank you, and God bless.

[BrotherFire]

Ludicrous to accuse innocent people who demand equal rights of "being out to recruit 2 year olds." Mrs. Kern is so badly mistaken, mentally deficient, or morally dishonest. Either way, bad for a representative. Ya'll who think it's a choice have no right to withhold equal rights from those who know it's not. Hating homosexuals, or depriving them of rights, is equivalent to believing your race is superior, primarily because you are of it.
This woman won't represent these views much longer. The truth will set you free. God Bless You Who Accept the Word and Love Them.

[Jean Becker]

Now We Know wrote:

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Please don't shut up........if the sane voices in the world simply stop being heard, we will be left with nothing except hopeless bigotry in our lives. Thank you, and God bless.

Thank you. I really wish that my post would be read, and those who are saying what she said is okay go back really listen to what she said word for word.

Go read what Hitler said and did, go read about our last terrorist act, any terrorist act for that fact. And come back and explain to me how can they tell me its okay.

I am hoping that she is removed from office, that she can not spew hatful words as a repensitive. Then I will know that we are one nation under god. That its really not us against them. That it is as it is written... WE.

[Carrie]

I keep hearing that homosexuality is wrong because the bible says it is. The bible was not written by God it was written by men. Until God tells me that its wrong, i'll keep supporting love, homosexual or heterosexual.

[michael g]

There's no way I want to read through the 600+ posts here, so maybe this has been addressed, but I doubt it.

People who support the homosexual lifestyle generally reject the Bible, and embrace Darwinism and the Theory of Evolution. How do you reconcile the fact that Evolution should have eliminated homosexuality very quickly in evolutionary terms??

[Jean Becker]

Carrie wrote:

I keep hearing that homosexuality is wrong because the bible says it is. The bible was not written by God it was written by men. Until God tells me that its wrong, i'll keep supporting love, homosexual or heterosexual.

YES!!! Each book was written by one man, from HIS point of view. The rules that was given to us from God is the 10 commandants.

[Biblereader]

I am amazed at people who use the Bible to try to take away other peoples freedoms and rights, actually say that
"Phillips Family wrote:
Read the Bible. Not just the parts that support your lifestyle. God loves us all and sent his son, Jesus, to cover all of our sins."
I guess it is ok for them to use the Bible to support only their lifestyles!

[Jean Becker]

michael g wrote:

There's no way I want to read through the 600+ posts here, so maybe this has been addressed, but I doubt it.
People who support the homosexual lifestyle generally reject the Bible, and embrace Darwinism and the Theory of Evolution. How do you reconcile the fact that Evolution should have eliminated homosexuality very quickly in evolutionary terms??

Thats funny. Thank you for the laugh. Now Please back to the topic.

Maybe you can read my post and answer my question. Just a few post above.

[michael g]

Jean Becker wrote:

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Thats funny. Thank you for the laugh. Now Please back to the topic.
Maybe you can read my post and answer my question. Just a few post above.

I didn't compare being gay to anything. And yes, my post was probably somewhat off topic, but I would assume that's not unusual among the 600+ posts above. I just asked and scientific/philosophical question, and I am sincerely interested in what the answer might be.

[Boycott 84th District]

michael g wrote:

There's no way I want to read through the 600+ posts here, so maybe this has been addressed, but I doubt it.
People who support the homosexual lifestyle generally reject the Bible, and embrace Darwinism and the Theory of Evolution. How do you reconcile the fact that Evolution should have eliminated homosexuality very quickly in evolutionary terms??

Well nature attempts population control. Homosexuality could be considered one such method, when the Baptists are knocking up their daughters too much.

[Jean Becker]

I didn't say you did. I said Sally Kern said and I quote: "being gay is WORSE then being a terrorist.

I appoligize but I really don't care to stray from my question. I am not here to discuss your religous beliefs. and have yet another blanket term placed upon the gay community such as yours. Sometimes it amazes me the ignorance of people. But I believe there is a cure for ignorance. Education. So again I ask those who are backing her up. Please go back and listen to what she said. Go back and read about our last terrorist act, and go back and read (just a bit of what hitler said of jews and tell me she is not speaking very hatfully against some of gods childern.