Democrats urge delay for ‘job-killing’ Obamacare tax

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Chip

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http://washingtonexaminer.com/democrats-urge-...

I thought we needed to vote for it to find out what was in it.

And how could the threat of higher taxes affect jobs, when the democrats seem to insist there is no correlation.
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Zero liability voters do not no what they do.....
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Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:
Zero liability voters do not no what they do.....
Stupid uneducated voters don't know the difference between 'no' and 'know'.

Let me guess. Another typo, right?
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Ginger wrote:
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Stupid uneducated voters don't know the difference between 'no' and 'know'.
Let me guess. Another typo, right?
What are you goona do not that many of your clients are in jail?
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Anytime you force legislation through without thoroughly examining it, especially with the size of the Affordable Care Act, you are going to have a mess. This has always been true. The ACA is one of the worst piece of legislation ever confirmed into law and will need serious amendable provisions to avoid collapsing the entire health care industry. Perhaps that's what Obama and the progressive vermin had in mind all along?
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No comments from the looser left yet, I take it they just want to let this one die.
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Chip wrote:
No comments from the looser left yet, I take it they just want to let this one die.
They can't because it means they are wrong..... Same thing when addressing "Violence From The Left
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Dr X wrote:
Anytime you force legislation through without thoroughly examining it, especially with the size of the Affordable Care Act, you are going to have a mess. This has always been true. The ACA is one of the worst piece of legislation ever confirmed into law and will need serious amendable provisions to avoid collapsing the entire health care industry. Perhaps that's what Obama and the progressive vermin had in mind all along?
Once it becomes the law of the land it is very near impossible to repeal. THAT is what the progressives knew. They had to pass it as soon as possible before all the details could be scoured. So they rammed through an ill-conceived and poorly-written piece of legislation. They politicized it, turned it into a fight vs republicans, and counted on their voting bloc to be too ignorant to recognize the obvious potential flaws.

Now some of the predictions that people were called everything from racists to murderers for making are coming true, including the taxation and higher costs incurred. Including the fact that indeed Obama LIED about "if you like your current physician, you can keep 'em." AND including that this would cost people jobs. Now the democrats are splintering over support for something that is just now having light shed on. It's going to get worse as this thing gets underway.

I've said all along that something needed to happen to kickstart a change in the health care system. I think we should all agree changes needed to take place. But what the progressives, Obama, Reid, Pelosi did, by ramming a complete overhaul of the system through, without bi-partisanship and real honest discussion, was unconscionable. The fact many on the left, despite the ongoing revelations that expose this to be the bad piece of legislation many predicted, is a reflection of the horrid state of unity among a fractured and ill-educated society.

We have GOT to learn to agree on common sense issues or we will be destroyed by partisan politics.
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We have GOT to learn to agree on common sense issues or we will be destroyed by partisan politics.
Yes but you seem to lack common sense and so many others like yourself, so we're right back to where we started, a vicious cycle. But what makes you such an expert on this subject, the health care problem? Did you even begin to wonder why total federal expenditures on health care 40 years was 7-9% of of spending but today its 25% and if nothing is done to correct this problem, in another 10 years it will be 30% or more. Speak o wise one. Dazzle us some more with your brilliance.
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Chip wrote:
http://washingtonexaminer.com/ democrats-urge-delay-for-job-k illing-obamacare-tax/article/2 515711
I thought we needed to vote for it to find out what was in it.
And how could the threat of higher taxes affect jobs, when the democrats seem to insist there is no correlation.
Yes, I'd be upset too and worried especially if I was managing a Dollar store or stocking shelves at one.
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Yes, I'd be upset too and worried especially if I was managing a Dollar store or stocking shelves at one.
I know your not concerned until they threaten to make you work for your welfare check.
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I know your not concerned until they threaten to make you work for your welfare check.
lol You must have just got home from your other part time job at Subway? don't type those big words like "threaten" chipster, makes me nervous.
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Chip wrote:
No comments from the looser left yet, I take it they just want to let this one die.
What difference would it make Chipmunk? Experience proves you wouldn't even consider a differing opinion, much less facts. So with someone like you it doesn't make a difference.

Makes more sense to go into camouflage and be a sniper.
Chip

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What difference would it make Chipmunk? Experience proves you wouldn't even consider a differing opinion, much less facts. So with someone like you it doesn't make a difference.
Makes more sense to go into camouflage and be a sniper.
And yet in another post on a different topic, 5 minutes before you posted this:
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Really? Show me where the democrats admit lower taxes create jobs.
Well, link in post #1 is your answer.
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And yet in another post on a different topic, 5 minutes before you posted this:
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Well, link in post #1 is your answer.
You are one deceptive lying little twit.
They urged the delay for the "a 2.3 percent tax on medical devices scheduled to take effect January 1.."

These Democrats are saying THIS 2.3% on the MEDICAL DEVICES should be postponed. And yes Franken saying it should be eliminated altogether. Yet you go to lengths to make it seem like these Democrats are saying Obamacare is a job killer.

The decent is over the medical device tax your liar. And NOWHERE in there do these Democrats say lowering taxes creates jobs.
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You are one deceptive lying little twit.
They urged the delay for the "a 2.3 percent tax on medical devices scheduled to take effect January 1.."
These Democrats are saying THIS 2.3% on the MEDICAL DEVICES should be postponed. And yes Franken saying it should be eliminated altogether. Yet you go to lengths to make it seem like these Democrats are saying Obamacare is a job killer.
The decent is over the medical device tax your liar. And NOWHERE in there do these Democrats say lowering taxes creates jobs.
John F Kennedy said it in 1962. I seem to remember him being a Democrat.He at least used common sense for his reasoning.
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You are one deceptive lying little twit.
They urged the delay for the "a 2.3 percent tax on medical devices scheduled to take effect January 1.."
These Democrats are saying THIS 2.3% on the MEDICAL DEVICES should be postponed. And yes Franken saying it should be eliminated altogether. Yet you go to lengths to make it seem like these Democrats are saying Obamacare is a job killer.
The decent is over the medical device tax your liar. And NOWHERE in there do these Democrats say lowering taxes creates jobs.
Didn't bother to read the article?

"Democratic senators say the levy will cost jobs — in a statement Monday, Sen. Al Franken called it a “job-killing tax”— and also impair American competitiveness in the medical device field."

So increasing taxes kills jobs, but we are not to assume that lowering them increases jobs?

Next are you going to tell me 2+2 does not equal 4.
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Yes but you seem to lack common sense and so many others like yourself, so we're right back to where we started, a vicious cycle. But what makes you such an expert on this subject, the health care problem? Did you even begin to wonder why total federal expenditures on health care 40 years was 7-9% of of spending but today its 25% and if nothing is done to correct this problem, in another 10 years it will be 30% or more. Speak o wise one. Dazzle us some more with your brilliance.
What are you so angry about? I never claimed to be an expert on anything, but I also know nothing I have posted lacks common sense. Maybe try educating others if you know something instead of wielding your pithy little snipes like some kind of cyber ninja weapon.
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What are you so angry about? I never claimed to be an expert on anything, but I also know nothing I have posted lacks common sense. Maybe try educating others if you know something instead of wielding your pithy little snipes like some kind of cyber ninja weapon.
You wouldn't consider anything anyway. You're already convinced anything Obama does is bad and that you apparently know his plan will fail. And that's precisely why I asked you if you realized 40 years ago total federal spending for health care was 7-9% of the budget, today its approaching 30% and if status quo continues that number is going to get bigger, some estimate a lot bigger. And of course that adds to the deficit which I'm sure you blame that all on Obama too. But you already know Obama's plan will fail or that its no better than what we have today? You said it. So lets hear why? Don't just spout off your b.s. here, add your spin and faux conspiracy theories and expect me to give you a pass. I'll bet you stand in line whenever you think the govt owes you a handout. And you'll be there if you ever need something from obama's health care.
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Chip wrote:
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Didn't bother to read the article?
"Democratic senators say the levy will cost jobs — in a statement Monday, Sen. Al Franken called it a “job-killing tax”— and also impair American competitiveness in the medical device field."
So increasing taxes kills jobs, but we are not to assume that lowering them increases jobs?
Next are you going to tell me 2+2 does not equal 4.
You're the one that didn't read the article. It clearly said the 2.3% tax on medical devices was a job killer. And yes "IN THE MEDICAL DEVICE FIELD". Because you are so stupid you don't realize that isn't saying taxes kill jobs...like you have been trying to get everyone to think it said.

Face it. You are incredibly stupid or an incredibly deceitful liar.

In your book 2+2=18 the way you inflate.

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