Really

Wyoming, MI

#165 Aug 18, 2013
vox veritatis wrote:
<quoted text>
While credit card delinquencies are dropping, some Americans are falling behind on other loan payments.
Delinquencies on mobile home and boat loans increased slightly at the end of 2012, according to the ABA report.
And a separate report released by the New York Federal Reserve Board in February stated that the percentage of student loans that are delinquent by more than 90 days climbed to 11.7% in the fourth quarter of 2012, up from 8.69% at the end of the first quarter of the year.
And, unlike you, I'll provide a link: http://money.cnn.com/2013/04/02/pf/credit-car...
It's ok Vox. See Blue thinks anything on the internet is a lie and that newspapers never lie or distort the facts.
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Lansing, MI

#166 Aug 18, 2013
Like Beck said, get rid of it.......
free thinker

Farmington, MI

#167 Aug 19, 2013
Go Blue Forever wrote:
Actually it's all good for me....the mere thought of you pissing and moaning, while our Economy Recovers and we see a possible Hillary Presidency, for two terms.........
I can just see her campaign slogan now..."It just doesn't matter!" lol I may even have a bumper sticker that says that made up for the next election cycle.
Looking forward to watching the slugfest between her and Biden..It's going to be so entertaining, they ought to sell tickets.
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#168 Aug 19, 2013
Batch 37 Pain Is Good wrote:
Like Beck said, get rid of it.......
Only a couple of months to go.......

Has your Dr. sent you his retirement notice yet?
HRC

Hudsonville, MI

#169 Aug 19, 2013
Bob wrote:
<quoted text>
Only a couple of months to go.......
Has your Dr. sent you his retirement notice yet?
What difference does it make?!
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#170 Aug 19, 2013
HRC wrote:
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What difference does it make?!
According to the bagger lie, 90% of doctors were going to retire rather than continuing to work.......

Imagine the horror if you were faced with more potential work and a better chance of being paid for it.

“Lost my mind”

Since: Apr 07

be back later

#171 Aug 19, 2013
Bob wrote:
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According to the bagger lie, 90% of doctors were going to retire rather than continuing to work.......
Imagine the horror if you were faced with more potential work and a better chance of being paid for it.
Actually, my doctor DID leave the practice. The letter that went out to all her patients said she was leaving the state, but that was not the conversation we had about a year before.

“Where I came from”

Since: Jan 09

the universe

#172 Aug 19, 2013
Here is a suggestion for all opposed to the ACA LAW. DON'T SIGN UP OR IT, DON'T GO ON LINE DON'T GO TO THE STILL TO BE ESTABLISHED EXCHANGES. Don't participate its your right as a free person to resist, all they want is conformity and bowing to the power of the IRS, and HHS. Stop giving these things authority over your life.

For all of you sheeple how think this is the best thing since sliced bread you will learn when you are told that if you participate in certain activities that they ( meaning the secretary of HHS and the thousand of beaurocrats who are mindless idiots )deem certain activities risky your premium will skyrocket. I can see your doctors government questionnaire asking lots of questions about your lifestyle. The fact is its not fair that you can ride around on your Harley or your 25ft speed boat or go skiing when there are homeless walking the streets and in shelters who have nothing but the close on their backs. Redistribution of wealth and misery that is what healthcare is all about. Get ready for the oppression that is the ACA.
Really

Wyoming, MI

#173 Aug 19, 2013
Bob wrote:
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According to the bagger lie, 90% of doctors were going to retire rather than continuing to work.......
Imagine the horror if you were faced with more potential work and a better chance of being paid for it.
Talk about a lie. No one has said 90% of the doctors were going to retire. What was actually said, if you had any comprehension skills at all, was that more Physicians would retire than would become new physicians. Actually, the latest article I read indicated that under the new proposed rules, the Doctors would be paid by the hour instead of the patient.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#174 Aug 19, 2013
Shoeless Eluder wrote:
Here is a suggestion for all opposed to the ACA LAW. DON'T SIGN UP OR IT, DON'T GO ON LINE DON'T GO TO THE STILL TO BE ESTABLISHED EXCHANGES. Don't participate its your right as a free person to resist, all they want is conformity and bowing to the power of the IRS, and HHS. Stop giving these things authority over your life.
For all of you sheeple how think this is the best thing since sliced bread you will learn when you are told that if you participate in certain activities that they ( meaning the secretary of HHS and the thousand of beaurocrats who are mindless idiots )deem certain activities risky your premium will skyrocket. I can see your doctors government questionnaire asking lots of questions about your lifestyle. The fact is its not fair that you can ride around on your Harley or your 25ft speed boat or go skiing when there are homeless walking the streets and in shelters who have nothing but the close on their backs. Redistribution of wealth and misery that is what healthcare is all about. Get ready for the oppression that is the ACA.
Two words -- Bull $hit. Like everything else that emits from your keyboard.

This and the hundreds of other lies about ACA that have been thoroughly debunked.
Batch 37 Pain Is Good

Farmington, MI

#175 Aug 19, 2013
Bob wrote:
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According to the bagger lie, 90% of doctors were going to retire rather than continuing to work.......
Imagine the horror if you were faced with more potential work and a better chance of being paid for it.
People like you were trying to steal from them...... I would leave to rather that support trailer living vermin in Mecosta...... Get a job

“Where I came from”

Since: Jan 09

the universe

#176 Aug 19, 2013
pipedream wrote:
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Two words -- Bull $hit. Like everything else that emits from your keyboard.
This and the hundreds of other lies about ACA that have been thoroughly debunked.
How can it be debunked, they are still writing the tens of thousand of pages of rules and regulations. It will take a few years for the effect to take place but its coming. Mark the date 8/19/2013 I predict it. By the way how about the millions of undocumented illegal aliens in this country who is going to pay for them? Your premiums that will skyrocket. I see you love being part of the heard, good for you just don't cry when you go over the inevitable cliff.
vox veritatis

Grand Rapids, MI

#178 Aug 19, 2013
Bob wrote:
According to the bagger lie, 90% of doctors were going to retire rather than continuing to work.......
Link to where anyone claimed that? Didn't think so, Baaaaab.
What will (and is already) happen is that doctors will retire early, young men and women will opt for a different career. We already have doctor shortages and when millions more are added to the pool needing one, get ready for some very long waits to get even the most basic of care. You may have to wait a little longer than you expected for that o ring repair.
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/study-physic...
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/29/health/poli... ;
vox veritatis

Grand Rapids, MI

#179 Aug 19, 2013
pipedream wrote:
This and the hundreds of other lies about ACA that have been thoroughly debunked.
Only if your idea of 'debunking' is 'nuh uh!' without a link or any sort of proof whatsoever.
pipedream

Grand Blanc, MI

#180 Aug 19, 2013
vox veritatis wrote:
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Only if your idea of 'debunking' is 'nuh uh!' without a link or any sort of proof whatsoever.
Its all out there a$$-hole, on numerous sites, all of the debunkings of ACA falsehoods. Look it up and read it or STFU.

I posted a site that bebunked a long list of lies from the right on this forum not too long ago.

And if you don't like it, go without insurance and die.
vox veritatis

Grand Rapids, MI

#181 Aug 19, 2013
Shoeless Eluder wrote:
How can it be debunked, they are still writing the tens of thousand of pages of rules and regulations. It will take a few years for the effect to take place but its coming. Mark the date 8/19/2013 I predict it. By the way how about the millions of undocumented illegal aliens in this country who is going to pay for them? Your premiums that will skyrocket. I see you love being part of the heard, good for you just don't cry when you go over the inevitable cliff.
Crackpipe is obviously unfamiliar with the managed care model of health care delivery that most insurers in the country are moving towards, and many already employ. Here's a brief summary of how it works:
There are 3 'tiers', basic, intermediate and premium. To be in the premium tier, you have to meet all the health benchmarks they set for cholesterol levels, blood pressure, blood sugar and weight/BMI Miss even one of them and you move to the intermediate level where you have to be demonstrating compliance with your dotor's recommendations for treatment to stay in even that level (take blood pressure, blood sugar and blood cholesterol lowering medications, participate in an exercise program or Weight Watchers, etc...). Refuse to comply and you find yourself in the 'basic' tier.
What's the difference between tiers, you ask? Ah...how much you have to pay out of your pocket for care. The highest copays and deductibles are in the basic tier...could be up to $2,000 deductible and $2,000 in copays (per person on the contract, per year). Copays for some services such as psychiatric care or medical supplies could be as high as 50%....after you meet your deductible, of course.
And all this ON TOP of the 7 or 8 hundred dollars you're paying monthly for your premiums.
Bend over and grab your ankles, folks...and don't expect it to be painless...they don't provide you with anesthesia for that procedure.
vox veritatis

Grand Rapids, MI

#182 Aug 19, 2013
pipedream wrote:
Its all out there a$$-hole, on numerous sites, all of the debunkings of ACA falsehoods. Look it up and read it or STFU.
I posted a site that bebunked a long list of lies from the right on this forum not too long ago.
And if you don't like it, go without insurance and die.
You should seek help and meds for that little anger management problem you have. Don't worry...doctor Barry will take good care of you next year, after the nice men with the strange white coats come to take you to your new home.
vox veritatis

Grand Rapids, MI

#183 Aug 19, 2013
Oh...and if you smoke, drink 'excessively' (by their definition) or show signs of mental health issues/depression, you have to seek treatment for those problems as well or pay the higher cost shares. Crack pipe is gonna LOVE those provisions. lol
Phil

Oxford, MI

#185 Aug 19, 2013
vox veritatis wrote:
Oh...and if you smoke, drink 'excessively'(by their definition) or show signs of mental health issues/depression, you have to seek treatment for those problems as well or pay the higher cost shares. Crack pipe is gonna LOVE those provisions. lol
Does he smoke? Of course he does. He has admitted to being a huge pot head and a drunk. He's one of those gay losers that hang out at the Rainbow Club
vox veritatis

Grand Rapids, MI

#186 Aug 19, 2013
pipedream wrote:
And if you don't like it, go without insurance and die.
Got news for you, pippy...you're going to die some day whether you have insurance or not. Even lord Barry can't save you from that.

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