Diggs

Willowbrook, IL

#61 Sep 14, 2012
Bob wrote:
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Didn't the school bus stop at your house today?
You know the one..... It's yellow and most importantly SHORT!
Still waiting for you to prove the $16 trillion deficit and other facts provided are just right wing "half-truths", Bob.

Got anything yet?
Mark

Rockford, MI

#62 Sep 14, 2012
Diggs wrote:
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Still waiting for you to prove the $16 trillion deficit and other facts provided are just right wing "half-truths", Bob.
Got anything yet?
He's experienced with the short bus apparently.
Diggs

Willowbrook, IL

#63 Sep 14, 2012
Mark wrote:
<quoted text>He's experienced with the short bus apparently.
Only if it contains young boys Bob can play "golf" with.

Bob, like other Topix liberals, has made a game of pretending his opinions count as fact - because opinions and stale insults are evidently all he has to offer. I'm simply asking him to put his own facts where his opinions are.
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#67 Sep 16, 2012
Diggs wrote:
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I hate it when my mom reminds me that I was born without a set of balls. She says if I had a pair, I could be a teabagger someday rather than always the teacup. But, I have nothing, Bob. I just make shit up and then run away as always.
I figured the closer that Mittens got to defeat that your Ad Hominem attacks would get even more lame.......
Diggs

Grand Rapids, MI

#68 Sep 16, 2012
Bob wrote:
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I figured the closer that Mittens got to defeat that your Ad Hominem attacks would get even more lame.......
And I figured, correctly of course, you were too chickenshit to admit you have nothing to back up your BS statement regarding the facts I cited. So much so you actually took the time to remove the paragraph from my post! LOL ... that's pathetic, Bob.

Here, I'll add it back in:

Now how about your facts that prove the $16 trillion deficit is just a GOP "half-truth", and the other facts I started this thread off with you claimed were just pulled from Michelle Malkin's imagination.

Come on, Sandusky ... put up your facts. Until you do that, I'll just smack you around with your own lies. Get used to it too, because you got caught making shit up again.

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Go Blue

Miami, FL

#69 Sep 16, 2012
Sure is fun, to keep bellowing...a $16 TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT....isn't it?......Maybe we might point out, Obama inherited $10.6 trillion plus two ongoing wars, plus alot more bad stuff, but we'll leave that out for now........Now then, that leaves Obama spending roughly $5.4 trillion on the last phases of both wars and extricating us from the edge of the economic cliff, we were on, when he started......Stock market was 7500, now 13,500....and stable....Banks stable....Investment Houses stable....Business indicators up.....Foreclosures down.....GM and Chrysler back on their feet and thriving....Auto sale up and setting records.....Retail Sales up.....Home prices up....Housing starts up....Productivity up......Unemployment still high, sure and perhaps we should'nt have outsourced all those jobs, but that does'nt fall on him really, does it?...Many economist might tell you, compared to what is happening across the west, we are doing well.....
Bushs fault

Jenison, MI

#70 Sep 16, 2012
All Bush's fault,.....right Blue?
Really

Grand Rapids, MI

#71 Sep 16, 2012
Go Blue wrote:
Sure is fun, to keep bellowing...a $16 TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT....isn't it?......Maybe we might point out, Obama inherited $10.6 trillion plus two ongoing wars, plus alot more bad stuff, but we'll leave that out for now........Now then, that leaves Obama spending roughly $5.4 trillion on the last phases of both wars and extricating us from the edge of the economic cliff, we were on, when he started......Stock market was 7500, now 13,500....and stable....Banks stable....Investment Houses stable....Business indicators up.....Foreclosures down.....GM and Chrysler back on their feet and thriving....Auto sale up and setting records.....Retail Sales up.....Home prices up....Housing starts up....Productivity up......Unemployment still high, sure and perhaps we should'nt have outsourced all those jobs, but that does'nt fall on him really, does it?...Many economist might tell you, compared to what is happening across the west, we are doing well.....
Foreclosures down? Where? They are on the rise again in Michigan. I just saw that report last week. Can you please explain to all those who are unemployed how 8.3% unemployment is not a bad thing, again? I'm sure they don't quite understand that. Or, how about to the young people who had just bought a house and he lost his job and they are now forced to rent the house out to cover the house payments and they are living in his grandfather's basement..him, his wife and his baby daughter??? I'm sure all the good news you just typed will give him hope.
Mark

Rockford, MI

#73 Sep 16, 2012
Go Blue wrote:
Sure is fun, to keep bellowing...a $16 TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT....isn't it?......Maybe we might point out, Obama inherited $10.6 trillion plus two ongoing wars, plus alot more bad stuff, but we'll leave that out for now........Now then, that leaves Obama spending roughly $5.4 trillion on the last phases of both wars and extricating us from the edge of the economic cliff, we were on, when he started......Stock market was 7500, now 13,500....and stable....Banks stable....Investment Houses stable....Business indicators up.....Foreclosures down.....GM and Chrysler back on their feet and thriving....Auto sale up and setting records.....Retail Sales up.....Home prices up....Housing starts up....Productivity up......Unemployment still high, sure and perhaps we should'nt have outsourced all those jobs, but that does'nt fall on him really, does it?...Many economist might tell you, compared to what is happening across the west, we are doing well.....
If you keep repeating it long enough...you may just believe it...but that dog don't hunt.

Since: Mar 09

Grandville, MI

#74 Sep 16, 2012
vox veritatis wrote:
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You have to remember that Blue thinks that whatever is going on outside his windown in his little neighborhood down there in Florida is what's going on in the rest of the country. Must be they haven't repo'd a trailer there in the last week.
Seems Blue doesnt even know whats going on out side his own window:
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2012-06-14/f...

http://www.thefloridacurrent.com/article.cfm...

And,....from Blue's home town:

http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/region_c_palm_be...

Since: Mar 09

Grandville, MI

#75 Sep 16, 2012
Go Blue wrote:
Sure is fun, to keep bellowing...a $16 TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT....isn't it?......Maybe we might point out, Obama inherited $10.6 trillion
O-K, so, ALL of the presidents combined, before Obama had built up a debt of 10 trillion, and Obama add's 6 trillion to it in just four years, and you think that's o-k?
WOW!
Diggs

Grand Rapids, MI

#76 Sep 17, 2012
Go Blue wrote:
Sure is fun, to keep bellowing...a $16 TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT....istable....Investme nt Houses stable....Business indicators up.....Foreclosures down.....GM and Chrysler back on their feet and thriving....Auto sale up and setting records.....Retail Sales up.....Home prices up....Housing starts up....Productivity up......Unemployment still high, sure and perhaps we should'nt have outsourced all those jobs, but that does'nt fall on him really, does it?...Many economist might tell you, compared to what is happening across the west, we are doing well.....
And many economists tell us we're heading for a Greece-scale disaster. If you look hard enough you'll be able to find some "expert" saying whatever you want to hear.

No, blue, it isn't fun at all repeating the facts I cited over and over, but clearly someone has to inject reality into this Let's-Deceive-Ourselves Obama pipe dream that you are working overtime to convince yourself exists.

Obama promised to cut the deficit in half, instead he added to it quicker than any president in history. And all you want to do is continue to make excuses for Obama by blaming a president who hasn't been in office for nearly four years. He didn't set spending records because of Bush. He did it because you morons elected him on a spread-the-wealth Keynesian economic platform that failed and then you never demanded to know where all that money he spent went, so he just keeps on spending. No matter how you spin it, the stimulus failed. Cash For Clunkers failed. Son of Stimulus failed. All of those green jobs he promised never happened.

The things you cited, without sources of course, may well be true in some areas, but not in all. AND, not all of those reflect an economy bouncing back. Foreclosures are declining because the people who were hit hardest by all of this have already lost their homes. Home sales in some areas are on the rise because people have had to lower the value of their home to a level they never imagined. These people are taking HUGE losses. That's not a positive reflection on Obama,

I've already provided facts that GM (Government Motors) is outsourcing jobs and investing in other countries, so one of the most highly-touted Obama a"accomplishments", the bailout, did the very thing you liberals keep whining about the most - sent jobs and money overseas.

And don't even get me started on Obama's Green Edsel Chevy Volt. The battery operated financial nightmare that they take a loss on every time someone is stupid enough to purchase it.

Unemployment is still high. Gas prices are getting higher. One group has actually downgraded America's credit status AGAIN. The first downgrade was historic. The second is Obama's legacy.

It's a desperate debater that uses the stock market as an indicator of a roaring economy. Using the momentary success of the people you liberals on any other day demonize. Amazing. You'll support OWS's aim to disrupt and bring down the NYSE one day, while using their success to brag on Obama's keen economic skills another day.

Obama continues to do his best Bush/Cheney impression by extending The Patriot Act, and recently phone-tapping measures. You dolts cried like scalded babies when Bush did that, but under Obama you've shoved your wadded panties in your big fat mouths and ignore it.

Do I like to have to remind you of reality? Hell no. You're much older than I am and I would hope would be able to see this for yourself - through unbiased eyes. But obviously you just "like" Obama and will suspend and twist reality to shine a glowing halo over his head no matter what facts are dropped on top of your melon.

The debt is $16 trillion, and Obama has contributed faster than any president in history, while presiding over the slowest economy and highest unemployment since the Great Depression. And you want to come on here and claim he's doing a good job?

Good luck with that.
Go Blue

Miami, FL

#77 Sep 17, 2012
Really wrote:
<quoted text>Foreclosures down? Where? They are on the rise again in Michigan. I just saw that report last week. Can you please explain to all those who are unemployed how 8.3% unemployment is not a bad thing, again? I'm sure they don't quite understand that. Or, how about to the young people who had just bought a house and he lost his job and they are now forced to rent the house out to cover the house payments and they are living in his grandfather's basement..him, his wife and his baby daughter??? I'm sure all the good news you just typed will give him hope.
Please look at the entire NATIONAL economy....it's a broad spectrum.....foreclosures have benn down NATIONALLY for over six months.....
to be announced

United States

#78 Sep 17, 2012
Go Blue wrote:
Sure is fun, to keep bellowing...a $16 TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT....isn't it?......Maybe we might point out, Obama inherited $10.6 trillion plus two ongoing wars, plus alot more bad stuff, but we'll leave that out for now........Now then, that leaves Obama spending roughly $5.4 trillion on the last phases of both wars and extricating us from the edge of the economic cliff, we were on, when he started......Stock market was 7500, now 13,500....and stable....Banks stable....Investment Houses stable....Business indicators up.....Foreclosures down.....GM and Chrysler back on their feet and thriving....Auto sale up and setting records.....Retail Sales up.....Home prices up....Housing starts up....Productivity up......Unemployment still high, sure and perhaps we should'nt have outsourced all those jobs, but that does'nt fall on him really, does it?...Many economist might tell you, compared to what is happening across the west, we are doing well.....
Bush spent 5 trillion in 8 years, with those two wars you are so concerned with, and 911 and Katrina. Not great I know, but Obama has spent 5.4 trillion in only 4 years and the war in Iraq ended. Not only that Obama has efectively divided this nation on every single "social issue".

Racism or hate is not the reason you shouldn't vote for Obama, common sense is the reason.

You say earlier that Obama is the "first" Democrat you voted for.
I find that hard to believe. You picked a real winner for your first time. Is it because you voted for the worst president ever that you defend him blindly? Just to justify your vote?....there is nothing wrong with admitting you made a mistake!
to be announced

United States

#79 Sep 17, 2012
Gville Jim wrote:
<quoted text>
Seems Blue doesnt even know whats going on out side his own window:
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/2012-06-14/f...
http://www.thefloridacurrent.com/article.cfm...
And,....from Blue's home town:
http://www.wptv.com/dpp/news/region_c_palm_be...
These are all great facts citing the horrific rate of forclosures in Florida, but Facts elude Blue and he won't even take the time to acknowledge the truth, because Chris matthews told him that things are good, and his neighbor has a job!
Go Blue

Miami, FL

#80 Sep 17, 2012
What condition, would you say we are honestly in, economically....next to 2008....?
Bob

Big Rapids, MI

#81 Sep 17, 2012
Diggs wrote:
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If you look hard enough you'll be able to find some "expert" saying whatever you want to hear.
It sure took a long time for you to admit that.......

It's the first time you've ever produced a REAL FACT!
Mark

Rockford, MI

#82 Sep 17, 2012
Manufacturing index down 10.4% for September.... Is that a good sign Blue? What should we think? Oh tell us how great it is out there some more....we are conflicted.
to be announced

United States

#83 Sep 17, 2012
seriously? since 2006 when the Democrats took control of the house and senate, and the colapse started in 2008. We have steadily declined to the point of 2 credit downgrades along with debt at record levels and 5.4 trillion in spending with very little to show for it.

So comparatively, 2008 was actually better than 2012.....honestly!
Go Blue

Miami, FL

#84 Sep 17, 2012
Mark wrote:
Manufacturing index down 10.4% for September.... Is that a good sign Blue? What should we think? Oh tell us how great it is out there some more....we are conflicted.
..US ECONOMIC GROWTH BETTER THAN EXPECTED...(AP)..8-30-12...The US economy grew at a tepid 1.7 percent annual rate in the April-June quarter, suggesting growth will stay weak in the second half of the year.....Slightly stronger consumer spending and greater exports were the main reasons the Commerce Department reported Wednesday that growth was better thanits initial estimate of 1.5 percent....Still, growth has slowed from the 2 percent abnual rate in the January-March quarter and the 4.1 percent rate in the fourth quarter of 2011.....(Hard to imagine, winter more productive, than summer economically)....

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