Child seat safety provokes change in law

About 350 children, age four to seven, die in car accidents each year. Half of them are not in any type of restraint, provoking a change in Michigan law. Read more
Freedom Rider

Owosso, MI

#21 Jun 30, 2008
"They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin, 1755

“Who Cares?”

Since: Jan 08

Muskegon

#22 Jun 30, 2008
I see that all of TOPIX has went without it's handbasket!!!!
Rita

Carson City, MI

#23 Jun 30, 2008
How do you know what type of booster seat to use?
My daughter is 9 1/2 and she isn't 4foot 9 so should she/does she need to be in a booster seat?
TommyO

Grand Rapids, MI

#24 Jun 30, 2008
That's crap thinking. We need to ban bicycle helmets, then. I've heard of kids getting stragled by them when wearling them at wrong times. We should also outlaw bathing as children drown. Oh, my God - what about choking on food? We need to prevent children from eatting!!! Just because a child may be spared death is no reason for massive over reaction. Besides, when your number is up the good Lord will get you home no matter what law Jenny passes. Does that mean you should tempt fate and jump out an airplane? No, but it does mean that a 0.0001% chance of a kid dying in a car accident that they would have survived if they had been in a booster seat instead of a standard seatbelt is not a reason to force everyone to deal with these stupid booster seats at 8 years old. The only way that this all seems so bad is because 350 kids died (assume each and everyone could have been prevented just by this law existing). That 350 still represents only 0.0001% of car trips, it's just we have more of them than when we were all younger. In fact, I bet that when we were younger the statistical % of it happening was higher due to the vehicle designs and safety/handling improvements in general! Yes, my numbers are made up but I think you get my point.
Hellfire wrote:
<quoted text>
The odds are you will survive. The things my father allowed us to do sends chills down my spine when thinking about my daughter.
BUT, unfortunately several hundred children since the 1970's perished in tragic accidents. Many more seriously injured.
Setting all statistics and emotions aside, if it saves one child from dying, the law was just.
Dee

Portage, MI

#25 Jun 30, 2008
There are a lot of SUV's and minivans (you know those good family-mobiles)with tinited windows in the back. I wonder how long before the police are "sued" because they were stopped for no just cause and therefore got a ticket when the police saw the child not in a booster seat!
Michael

United States

#26 Jun 30, 2008
Fred Tornado wrote:
<quoted text>
Or make cell phones with air bags!
LMAO! True, sadly.

The other day we were behind a van that had kids wandering around in the back. Hello! Buckle the kids up! I have a rule that if the belts aren't clicked, the car doesn't move.
Debbie

Grand Rapids, MI

#27 Jun 30, 2008
Does anyone know the answer to this question? I have been trying to find out all day!! My son is 7 1/2 and 4 ft 5 in but weighs slightly over 100 pounds. All the booster seats we have tried only go to 100 pounds and he cannot fit in them. I looked online and can't find one that fits a child bigger than 100 pounds. Help!!
Mark

Knoxville, TN

#28 Jun 30, 2008
Nice to see some sane comments in this forum, since the other one on this topic was how wonderful our government was for saving all the children's lives. About made me sick.

For you that think this is such a great idea and will start doing it now that the gov't is requiring it, why in the world did you not do it before if it was such a great idea?
Tom

Grandville, MI

#29 Jun 30, 2008
why does this need to be a law? The same thing can be said about the seat-belt law. The only person that you are putting at risk with that is yourself, not another single person on the road. I think the cops need to spend their time looking for the people who are actually endangering other people on the road, the drunk drivers, the speeders, etc. All this is is another way for the state to make more money from the people who don't have it to spare.
Dan

Holland, MI

#30 Jun 30, 2008
Hellfire wrote:
<quoted text>
Setting all statistics and emotions aside, if it saves one child from dying, the law was just.
While we're at it, let's set aside reason and common sense.

The person who flagged this comment as "brilliant" must have the IQ of a tater tot.
Flair

Holland, MI

#31 Jun 30, 2008
Hmm, does anyone remember the commercials for a mini-van that had all the "perks" for kids? Where the children are looking around the van in a vehicle testing area saying what could be better, like more tv's and things like that...I'm pretty sure one of them had to have said "adjustable seatbelts for kids". Kids arn't dumb, they know safety, but it was probably too expensive on automotive companies to make them. Maybe more attention should be put to the safety design of the vehicle rather than how much sto-and-go seating there is.
George

Brunswick, OH

#32 Jun 30, 2008
after 3 years of age, no seat belts. be PARENTS and teach your child(ren) how to sit and act in a vehicle. i dont wear a seat belt and refuse to lock my kids down for a car ride. if we boot the government out of our lives, our kids will survive like i have with out all this so called protection.
JB Weld

Lawrence, MI

#33 Jun 30, 2008
This is more nanny-state regulation and if you follow the money, I'm sure this was pushed by car seat manufacturers and by non-profits that are going to get a lot more money to "help" people get these.

350 deaths per year nationwide & half of the deaths the child was unrestrained to begin with. That is not a lot of deaths to justify the huge cost. How many of the deaths would have been unavoidable regardless of how the child was (or wasn't) restrained ?

They played on the people's emotions and the fact that most people don't take the time to look at the figures, or can't understand them.

But hey, It's for the CHILDREN!!!!
Chris

United States

#34 Jun 30, 2008
There's no such thing as freedom unless you have enough money to pay all the tickets anymore.It's a money thing!You want to save children's lives, ban the use of cell phones in cars!
Big Brother

Holland, MI

#35 Jun 30, 2008
Chris wrote:
There's no such thing as freedom unless you have enough money to pay all the tickets anymore.It's a money thing!You want to save children's lives, ban the use of cell phones in cars!
We are working on that too.

BTW: Mark, we are watching you.
jaden roze

East Lansing, MI

#36 Jun 30, 2008
Paul wrote:
<quoted text>
If they are over 8 years old, the thinking is they they are old enough to sit in a seat correctly and not be moving around, sitting backwards getting loose, etc. Under 8 years old they want to use the car seat which will help they seated forward which will lessen the chances of injury.
You don't have kids do you? If that is the reason try older. My 8 yr old son messes around more than his younger sister.
jaden roze

East Lansing, MI

#37 Jun 30, 2008
TommyO wrote:
I hear ya! At least the federal government passed a law last week protecting us from people transporting monkey's across state lines. Thank God for politicians!
<quoted text>
That sucks I really wanted to buy a monkey.
asa

Greenville, MI

#38 Jun 30, 2008
I dont mind going to have to put my 7 1/2 yr old in a booster seat.. I actually told her that since she was only 4'1" that she would have to be in a booster seat she gave me a funny look and then was all for it.. Just because she is crazy like that.. But I want to no is I drive a big suv,, how is she going to be any safer in a bus without a booster seat. Riding the bus in a booster seat she refuses to do.
jaden roze

East Lansing, MI

#39 Jun 30, 2008
Mary in Kazoo wrote:
There's not even seat belts on most school buses!!!!
Yeah but that is for good reason. The seats are high enough to help keep them safe but if all the kids were straped in and they needed to get off the bus in a hurry like it caught on fire the driver couldn't get them off quick enough. They have to go seat to seat and make sure the kids are unbuckled and off the bus. So it is safer not to have them. I asked the school about it and that's what they told me.

“Just be you. ”

Since: May 08

Muskegon,MI

#40 Jun 30, 2008
George wrote:
after 3 years of age, no seat belts. be PARENTS and teach your child(ren) how to sit and act in a vehicle. i dont wear a seat belt and refuse to lock my kids down for a car ride. if we boot the government out of our lives, our kids will survive like i have with out all this so called protection.
So when a car comes and broadsides you with no warning.......good luck to you with out your seatbelts. Why would you not do everything you could to protect your children...age three and no seatbelt?? I think they should still be in atleast a booster seat..... I'm just sayin'.

Tell me when this thread is updated:

Subscribe Now Add to my Tracker

Add your comments below

Characters left: 4000

Please note by submitting this form you acknowledge that you have read the Terms of Service and the comment you are posting is in compliance with such terms. Be polite. Inappropriate posts may be removed by the moderator. Send us your feedback.

Grand Rapids Discussions

Title Updated Last By Comments
Local News Women (Apr '09) 12 hr RedWings19 2,357
News College football roundup: Ohio State starts the... (Sep '13) Mon stewart scott 1,768
its high time . . . Mar 29 bobolinq 1
News TRY IT BEFORE YOU BUY IT: Roof Melt (Jan '08) Mar 28 gaga2 72
News This Woman Didn't Get Any Bacon In Her Burger S... Mar 28 Sneaky Pete 6
News When to consider hip replacement surgery Mar 27 Jane Fairfax 1
Mystery shopping in Grand Rapids? Mar 25 Mrs C 2
Grand Rapids Dating
Find my Match
More from around the web

Grand Rapids People Search

Addresses and phone numbers for FREE

Personal Finance

Mortgages [ See current mortgage rates ]