Child seat safety provokes change in law

Child seat safety provokes change in law

There are 72 comments on the WOOD-TV Grand Rapids and Michigan story from Jun 30, 2008, titled Child seat safety provokes change in law. In it, WOOD-TV Grand Rapids and Michigan reports that:

About 350 children, age four to seven, die in car accidents each year. Half of them are not in any type of restraint, provoking a change in Michigan law.

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TommyO

Grand Rapids, MI

#1 Jun 30, 2008
OK, I just don't get this. What is so magic about 4'9"? Is that the height at which car seatbelts are actually effective? What about all the "little people" who are adults? They should be in car seats if under 4'9", too. Not safe for an 8 year old under 4'9" ... not safe for a 28 year old under 4'9". Which raises further questions like why is it unsafe for my under 4'9" kid to be in the front seat of a car as a passenger but it's OK for a 28 year old under 4'9" to tape blocks to the gas & brake so they can drive in the front seat? Shouldn't intelligence prevail rather than giving in to the PC sensitive crap? Unsafe is unsafe, regardless of age. 4'9" is the height minimum to sit in the front and to be without a booster seat!
chickie

Lansing, MI

#2 Jun 30, 2008
Does it really matter anymore? I am tired of this "talk". The law should be...if you want to possibly "prevent" any further damage to your child, booster them up, if you don't, then take the chance! I will be boostering up my kiddies, but come on...stop this insanity! When it's your time, it's your time!

“Smells like 1994!”

Since: Jun 08

Stately Wayne Manor

#3 Jun 30, 2008
How did we ever manage to survive without child seats? I know that they are proven to save lives but it seems that we're getting over protective in our society. If we kept the bad drivers off the roads, we'd be better off.

I remember laying down in the backseat window-well back in the 70's!
hms

Grand Rapids, MI

#4 Jun 30, 2008
Fred Tornado wrote:
How did we ever manage to survive without child seats? I know that they are proven to save lives but it seems that we're getting over protective in our society. If we kept the bad drivers off the roads, we'd be better off.
I remember laying down in the backseat window-well back in the 70's!
or me in the 80's laying in the very back of the station wagon!

I think with the way people drive now a days, EVERYONE should be in booster seats! lol

“Smells like 1994!”

Since: Jun 08

Stately Wayne Manor

#5 Jun 30, 2008
hms wrote:
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or me in the 80's laying in the very back of the station wagon!
I think with the way people drive now a days, EVERYONE should be in booster seats! lol
Or make cell phones with air bags!
Paul

Grand Rapids, MI

#6 Jun 30, 2008
TommyO wrote:
OK, I just don't get this. What is so magic about 4'9"? Is that the height at which car seatbelts are actually effective? What about all the "little people" who are adults? They should be in car seats if under 4'9", too. Not safe for an 8 year old under 4'9" ... not safe for a 28 year old under 4'9". Which raises further questions like why is it unsafe for my under 4'9" kid to be in the front seat of a car as a passenger but it's OK for a 28 year old under 4'9" to tape blocks to the gas & brake so they can drive in the front seat? Shouldn't intelligence prevail rather than giving in to the PC sensitive crap? Unsafe is unsafe, regardless of age. 4'9" is the height minimum to sit in the front and to be without a booster seat!
If they are over 8 years old, the thinking is they they are old enough to sit in a seat correctly and not be moving around, sitting backwards getting loose, etc. Under 8 years old they want to use the car seat which will help they seated forward which will lessen the chances of injury.
Paul

Grand Rapids, MI

#7 Jun 30, 2008
P.S. Even though the thinking behind the cutoff between 8 and 9 years old is being able to sit forward, it would be interesting to know more about that statistic. 350 deaths, is that nationwide or in Michigan? And out of those, how many can they determine a booster seat would have saved over conventional seat belts?

And don't include the kids not restrained at all. If the parents won't buckle them in a seat belt, they certainly will not put them in a booster seat.

So give me that number... how many kids properly restrained would have been saved had they been in a booster seat?
Freedom Rider

Owosso, MI

#8 Jun 30, 2008
ZIEG HEIL!!! I'm all for keeping kids safe, but if you think this that's what this is about you're wrong. This about campaign contributions paid by manufacturers and retailers to politicians, this is about cops being able to stick their noses in your cars, and this is about big brother telling you what to do. They could care less about your kids. Maybe they want them to grow old enough to send them to a foreign country to killed instead? You would think the government would think of more constructive things to do then suck more money out of us when to economy is in the toilet. It would different if the seats were made in Michigan, but they're made in China.
Ten2Six

Greenville, MI

#9 Jun 30, 2008
In how many of the 350 cases were drunk drivers involved? Sure, we need to restrain our kids, but please put more effort into keeping drunks off the road...that would be even more effective than a booster seat.
TommyO

Grand Rapids, MI

#10 Jun 30, 2008
A car seat forces that, but not a booster. A booster is a small seat that uses the regualr seat belt. It still requires attention to keep your kids sittting down properly. A five-point harness will keep them is place - perhaps we need Lansing to require those?:-)
Paul wrote:
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If they are over 8 years old, the thinking is they they are old enough to sit in a seat correctly and not be moving around, sitting backwards getting loose, etc. Under 8 years old they want to use the car seat which will help they seated forward which will lessen the chances of injury.
TommyO

Grand Rapids, MI

#11 Jun 30, 2008
I hear ya! At least the federal government passed a law last week protecting us from people transporting monkey's across state lines. Thank God for politicians!
Freedom Rider wrote:
ZIEG HEIL!!! I'm all for keeping kids safe, but if you think this that's what this is about you're wrong. This about campaign contributions paid by manufacturers and retailers to politicians, this is about cops being able to stick their noses in your cars, and this is about big brother telling you what to do. They could care less about your kids. Maybe they want them to grow old enough to send them to a foreign country to killed instead? You would think the government would think of more constructive things to do then suck more money out of us when to economy is in the toilet. It would different if the seats were made in Michigan, but they're made in China.
Just a reader

Dillon, CO

#12 Jun 30, 2008
How about just leaving kids home so restaurants and stores aren't filled with screaming kids?
Freedom Rider

Owosso, MI

#13 Jun 30, 2008
Ban cars period!! Stop global warming! Stop all drunk driving! Stop dependence on foreign oil! Stop all children from being injured and killed in cars! I think the brain trust in Lansing is dumb enough to do it!!
Somebody in West MI

Denver, CO

#14 Jun 30, 2008
Why don't we all just put all our kids in a bubble so they don't get hurt. I wonder how many children has died who were properly restrained? Sadly, tragic things happen in our world. It's part of life.
Mary in Kazoo

United States

#15 Jun 30, 2008
There's not even seat belts on most school buses!!!!
also

Pueblo, CO

#16 Jun 30, 2008
Mary in Kazoo wrote:
There's not even seat belts on most school buses!!!!
But there are high seat backs that will stop kids from being thrown forward and the bus itself sits high, which makes it a bit safer.
also

Pueblo, CO

#17 Jun 30, 2008
Somebody in West MI wrote:
Why don't we all just put all our kids in a bubble so they don't get hurt. I wonder how many children has died who were properly restrained? Sadly, tragic things happen in our world. It's part of life.
This is true, but I am going to follow the recommendations and laws in order to keep my son safe.
1morecalvingrad

Manchester, MI

#18 Jun 30, 2008
Soon someone of questionable ethics will do another leading study and we will all be required to wear bicycle helmets. It will be for the children... There are lots of other areas were injuries abound. Think of your tub for instance.

“Have a nice day!”

Since: Apr 08

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#19 Jun 30, 2008
Just a reader wrote:
How about just leaving kids home so restaurants and stores aren't filled with screaming kids?
Way off topic, but you make a good point!
Hellfire

Caledonia, MI

#20 Jun 30, 2008
Fred Tornado wrote:
How did we ever manage to survive without child seats? I know that they are proven to save lives but it seems that we're getting over protective in our society. If we kept the bad drivers off the roads, we'd be better off.
I remember laying down in the backseat window-well back in the 70's!
The odds are you will survive. The things my father allowed us to do sends chills down my spine when thinking about my daughter.

BUT, unfortunately several hundred children since the 1970's perished in tragic accidents. Many more seriously injured.

Setting all statistics and emotions aside, if it saves one child from dying, the law was just.

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