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True American wrote: <quoted text> I would agree with you in general. However, in most cases an escapee will usually escape to commit another crime. In her case, she went on to live a respectable life and her "rehabilitation" should be taken into consideration. But, that is just my opinion. No she stole an indentity and committed a federal crime. And what kind of arrogant monster has 3 children knowing she was wanted? There is a 15 year old kid sitting in California today still trying to put together what is going on. He is paying for the risk she took with his life each and every day...Not to mention the older adult girls. She could have fessed up to hubby and come back and done her time then got married and had kids. This is all about her, it always was about her and she has the nerve before she sets on foot back in this state to play the victim. The cruelty she has shown her own family deserves time in prison she will never get. No matter what her kids get to pay for her slimey self centered dirty game. This lady is a total slug.
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“...all but 6...UNLESS”
Joined: Mar 20, 2008
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Robentcorp wrote: <quoted text> No she stole an indentity and committed a federal crime. And what kind of arrogant monster has 3 children knowing she was wanted? There is a 15 year old kid sitting in California today still trying to put together what is going on. He is paying for the risk she took with his life each and every day...Not to mention the older adult girls. She could have fessed up to hubby and come back and done her time then got married and had kids. This is all about her, it always was about her and she has the nerve before she sets on foot back in this state to play the victim. The cruelty she has shown her own family deserves time in prison she will never get. No matter what her kids get to pay for her slimey self centered dirty game. This lady is a total slug. Is your first name...Dick??? I am guessing that her 15 year old already has an understanding as to what has taken place; After all, it is what, about three sentences to decipher??? And I'm sure the older adult daughters have a pretty good grasp of it also This woman has led a life in which she has proven that it is not "all about her"... "Cruelty"???? You're kidding me??? Have you looked up the word, "Cruel"??? The only thing that has Truly changed, is her name
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rval2 wrote: <quoted text> Is your first name...Dick??? I am guessing that her 15 year old already has an understanding as to what has taken place; After all, it is what, about three sentences to decipher??? And I'm sure the older adult daughters have a pretty good grasp of it also This woman has led a life in which she has proven that it is not "all about her"... "Cruelty"???? You're kidding me??? Have you looked up the word, "Cruel"??? The only thing that has Truly changed, is her name You are truely a messed up person, may God forgive you.
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“Aut viam inveniam aut faciam ”
Joined: Feb 16, 2008
Muskegon
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Robentcorp wrote: <quoted text> You are truely a messed up person, may God forgive you. Why does God have to forgive rval for? I am just wondering because, well God made her and he knows all about her morals, ethics and her failings. That said, he also knows the good things about her like loyalty, trust and courage. In short, God knows her through-and-through. Perhaps that is why He does not want YOU (or anyone else, for that matter) to judge her character. You can measure her intellect, but do NOT judge her character. One does not necessarily have anything with the other. God will be the one to judge if she needs Forgiveness, I thank Him for the fact it is not left up to people like you. If it were, I think a lot of people would go without being forgiven because they do not fit into your narrow world view.
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I think everyone can read what she writes and see what she has become. I doubt this was God's plan. Pretend to be other people, slime people, abuse people unable to really defend themselves.
I do not need to judge either of you, you both trumpet what you are, despite all the lies you tell.
I pray you are both forgiven for how you have treated those less able to defend themselves. Too often you enjoy raining hurt into the lives of others. Truly unfortunate.
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“...all but 6...UNLESS”
Joined: Mar 20, 2008
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TheKaisho42 wrote: <quoted text> Why does God have to forgive rval for? I am just wondering because, well God made her and he knows all about her morals, ethics and her failings. That said, he also knows the good things about her like loyalty, trust and courage. In short, God knows her through-and-through. Perhaps that is why He does not want YOU (or anyone else, for that matter) to judge her character. You can measure her intellect, but do NOT judge her character. One does not necessarily have anything with the other. God will be the one to judge if she needs Forgiveness, I thank Him for the fact it is not left up to people like you. If it were, I think a lot of people would go without being forgiven because they do not fit into your narrow world view. Thanks TK...and likewise, I've got your back
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“Aut viam inveniam aut faciam ”
Joined: Feb 16, 2008
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Robentcorp wrote: I think everyone can read what she writes and see what she has become. I doubt this was God's plan. Pretend to be other people, slime people, abuse people unable to really defend themselves. I do not need to judge either of you, you both trumpet what you are, despite all the lies you tell. I pray you are both forgiven for how you have treated those less able to defend themselves. Too often you enjoy raining hurt into the lives of others. Truly unfortunate. Have you not noticed, sir? YOU are just about the ONLY one judging her (and just about everyone else, too, from what I have read). And, ummm WHO is less able to defend themselves? Would that be ACP again? Hmmm...like I said to you before, ACP is capable of defending himself, he just is not any good at it. BTW, what makes you believe he is "less able" to defend himself? Is he, as you asserted, mentally ill? If so, YOu should be out here with the rest of us telling the man to get help, instead, you call HIM mentally ill, then DEFEND him? Isn't that sort of like patting him on the back with a large knife in your hand? Still, he seems to accept your assertion he is mentally unable to defend himself. I am sure ACP really and truly appreciates you patronizing him. By fighting for him, you have done him the greatest insult anyone ould give him because you have deemed him LESS ABLE (more like UNABLE) to defend himslef, so YOU have appointed yourself to the task (without him asking you to, BTW) of defending him. ACP is not UNABLE to defend himself, sir. In fact, he is quite "able" but he just is not any good at it. In fact, he stinks. With people like you rushing to his defense, he is not going to get any better at it, either. Why should he if you are going to do it for him? I still want to know if he appreciates you being so condescending to him... And still, you keep insulting him AND ACP never says a word about that at all to you. Sheesh, that is almost like you two are the same person, huh?
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TheKaisho42 wrote: <quoted text> Have you not noticed, sir? YOU are just about the ONLY one judging her (and just about everyone else, too, from what I have read). And, ummm WHO is less able to defend themselves? Would that be ACP again? Hmmm...like I said to you before, ACP is capable of defending himself, he just is not any good at it. BTW, what makes you believe he is "less able" to defend himself? Is he, as you asserted, mentally ill? If so, YOu should be out here with the rest of us telling the man to get help, instead, you call HIM mentally ill, then DEFEND him? Isn't that sort of like patting him on the back with a large knife in your hand? Still, he seems to accept your assertion he is mentally unable to defend himself. I am sure ACP really and truly appreciates you patronizing him. By fighting for him, you have done him the greatest insult anyone ould give him because you have deemed him LESS ABLE (more like UNABLE) to defend himslef, so YOU have appointed yourself to the task (without him asking you to, BTW) of defending him. ACP is not UNABLE to defend himself, sir. In fact, he is quite "able" but he just is not any good at it. In fact, he stinks. With people like you rushing to his defense, he is not going to get any better at it, either. Why should he if you are going to do it for him? I still want to know if he appreciates you being so condescending to him... And still, you keep insulting him AND ACP never says a word about that at all to you. Sheesh, that is almost like you two are the same person, huh? I think if you looked back you would see very strong exchanges between myself and ACP including identifying the mental health issues in my opinion at work. In fact, I called him on much of the issues I felt were highly inappropriate. In reading your comments you were and remain utterly cruel and both of you clearly enjoyed being abusive. Add to this you continue to bait me into a battle between myself and ACP only shows how maligant your manipulation can be. You defend the stunningly loutish behavior of RVAL who cannot accept opposing points of view without pretending to be other people. This slimey routine of hers deserves to be pushed out not supported. As for defending ACP, I note I did not at any point mention him by name when first identifying your behavior. You did that, so you knew perfectly well what you were doing. As one with a masters degree in social work I am fairly well able to make certain observations and identify behaviors as being consistent with certain mental health issues. While I will, again, not be baited into rehashing all of that, as I just mentioned you knew exactly what and who I was talking about. So please do not pretend your own bullying is not what it is. You know it, and so does anyone else who has read your remarks.
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Joined: Mar 20, 2008
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Having a degree on the wall doesn't mean sh it sir, it especially doesn't mean that you are any good at the degree you hold...Just because one holds a degree in teaching, doesn't make them a good Teacher...A badge does not make a Police Officer a good Police Officer...A Politicain...well, we'll just leave that one alone...Tell ya what, why don't you "go back" and reference specific posts where you and Acp have "battled"...There are none, I assure you of that...but nice try attempting to get us to waste time...plan B?
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rval2 wrote: Having a degree on the wall doesn't mean sh it sir, it especially doesn't mean that you are any good at the degree you hold...Just because one holds a degree in teaching, doesn't make them a good Teacher...A badge does not make a Police Officer a good Police Officer...A Politicain...well, we'll just leave that one alone...Tell ya what, why don't you "go back" and reference specific posts where you and Acp have "battled"...There are none, I assure you of that...but nice try attempting to get us to waste time...plan B? And having internet access does not elevate you from being a forum rat.
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“...all but 6...UNLESS”
Joined: Mar 20, 2008
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Robentcorp wrote: <quoted text> And having internet access does not elevate you from being a forum rat. Yes, you've already proven that time and again...and again...and again...and again
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“My lil buddy”
Joined: Jan 6, 2008
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Robentcorp wrote: <quoted text> And having internet access does not elevate you from being a forum rat. TROLL
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Gentle Taz wrote: <quoted text> TROLL Trolls are not as disgusting as rats....In this case Roach may be more appropriate.
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rval2 wrote: <quoted text> Yes, you've already proven that time and again...and again...and again...and again Right with 2114 posts.....I think we can see how addicted you are.
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“Aut viam inveniam aut faciam ”
Joined: Feb 16, 2008
Muskegon
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Robentcorp wrote: <quoted text> I think if you looked back you would see very strong exchanges between myself and ACP including identifying the mental health issues in my opinion at work. In fact, I called him on much of the issues I felt were highly inappropriate. In reading your comments you were and remain utterly cruel and both of you clearly enjoyed being abusive. Add to this you continue to bait me into a battle between myself and ACP only shows how maligant your manipulation can be. You defend the stunningly loutish behavior of RVAL who cannot accept opposing points of view without pretending to be other people. This slimey routine of hers deserves to be pushed out not supported. As for defending ACP, I note I did not at any point mention him by name when first identifying your behavior. You did that, so you knew perfectly well what you were doing. As one with a masters degree in social work I am fairly well able to make certain observations and identify behaviors as being consistent with certain mental health issues. While I will, again, not be baited into rehashing all of that, as I just mentioned you knew exactly what and who I was talking about. So please do not pretend your own bullying is not what it is. You know it, and so does anyone else who has read your remarks. does having an AA degree and two bachelor degrees beat one master degree? Lol... LIKE I said, you and ACP have not battled anymore than I have battled with anyone. My treatment of anyone here but ACP has been exemplary; not the twisted thing you say I have done. Stll, no response from you about how ACP was able to dish it out, but unable to take the withering fire that was returned. He gave as good as he got. If you want me to ahve pity for him, fine, but it will be the pity I reserve for a lost dog or a wayward rhino, not the kind of pity I have for the truly disabled. Case-in-point, ACP is still on the other thread calling me "cult boy' and just today, he wrote that, in reference to the Vatican statement that a belief in extraterrestial life is NOT a sin, "cult HQ had decided that it is okay for you to believe in yourself." Yeah, funny...but I think it is degrading...so..who is being insulting now? I have not posted to the man in a while and nor do I care to do so. Also, you won't be hearing from me that much either. I meant what I wrote the other day, since you take such great sport in being insulting and degrading to anyone who disagrees with you, you get to be King of Nothing. Take charge of your realm, sir and, by all means, continue to argue with yourself. I do not have the time, nor inclination to fix STUPID people and I will not even try. It is too boring. Besides, I am in training for the 9.3 mile Muskegon Chronicle Seaway Run (which I have run since 2005-almost one year to date after a successful gastric bypass surgery) and I with two kids in the house and a wife to take care of, I have litle time to suffer Fools and their machinations. I will post as time permits, but if you are planning to "hit me back" any time soon, well, you may be a while. So, enjoy being the King of Nothing, Lord and Master of the forum...
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TheKaisho42 wrote: <quoted text> does having an AA degree and two bachelor degrees beat one master degree? Lol... LIKE I said, you and ACP have not battled anymore than I have battled with anyone. My treatment of anyone here but ACP has been exemplary; not the twisted thing you say I have done. Stll, no response from you about how ACP was able to dish it out, but unable to take the withering fire that was returned. He gave as good as he got. If you want me to ahve pity for him, fine, but it will be the pity I reserve for a lost dog or a wayward rhino, not the kind of pity I have for the truly disabled. Case-in-point, ACP is still on the other thread calling me "cult boy' and just today, he wrote that, in reference to the Vatican statement that a belief in extraterrestial life is NOT a sin, "cult HQ had decided that it is okay for you to believe in yourself." Yeah, funny...but I think it is degrading...so..who is being insulting now? I have not posted to the man in a while and nor do I care to do so. Also, you won't be hearing from me that much either. I meant what I wrote the other day, since you take such great sport in being insulting and degrading to anyone who disagrees with you, you get to be King of Nothing. Take charge of your realm, sir and, by all means, continue to argue with yourself. I do not have the time, nor inclination to fix STUPID people and I will not even try. It is too boring. Besides, I am in training for the 9.3 mile Muskegon Chronicle Seaway Run (which I have run since 2005-almost one year to date after a successful gastric bypass surgery) and I with two kids in the house and a wife to take care of, I have litle time to suffer Fools and their machinations. I will post as time permits, but if you are planning to "hit me back" any time soon, well, you may be a while. So, enjoy being the King of Nothing, Lord and Master of the forum... ACP has a very clear and paranoid aspect to his personlity filled with delusions. You and your sick friend rather than just leaving it alone went in for the kill over and over and over and over. You would purposely bait him to set off his more troubled thoughts. You do it with me with your repeated questioning trying to draw me into statements you apparently will set him off again. It is cruel and abusive to seek out the weaknesses of troubled people for your own personal pleasure. Your lack of character is further demonstrated in your support of RVAL and her filthlty comments on serveral people while pretending to be those people. Not once did you take a stand for what was right, in fact, at almost every point you stepped up for the same abusive and cruel behavior you took so much pleasure from when directly communicating with ACP. Good for you on the runnning. I am trying to lose weight, what a struggle!
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“Aut viam inveniam aut faciam ”
Joined: Feb 16, 2008
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Robentcorp wrote: <quoted text> ACP has a very clear and paranoid aspect to his personlity filled with delusions. You and your sick friend rather than just leaving it alone went in for the kill over and over and over and over. You would purposely bait him to set off his more troubled thoughts. You do it with me with your repeated questioning trying to draw me into statements you apparently will set him off again. It is cruel and abusive to seek out the weaknesses of troubled people for your own personal pleasure. Your lack of character is further demonstrated in your support of RVAL and her filthlty comments on serveral people while pretending to be those people. Not once did you take a stand for what was right, in fact, at almost every point you stepped up for the same abusive and cruel behavior you took so much pleasure from when directly communicating with ACP. Good for you on the runnning. I am trying to lose weight, what a struggle! Sorry...did you say something?
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dragos wrote: <quoted text> I would like to make a small but large in meaning change in your post. People are sent to prison AS punishment not FOR punishment What the hell does that mean?
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TheKaisho42 wrote: <quoted text> Sorry...did you say something? My payback for tossing a compliment to you. At least I know not to make that mistake again. Yup you are just one decent, kind wonderful human being....Maybe we can get a few more of you together and move to texas, start a ranch and build a big white church and abuse some kids together.
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